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celinski   
28 Dec 2007
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I personally wouldn't like to see too many more foreigners

Do you consider the ones that had to leave a country they loved as foreigners. We are not able to return, I believe Poland is going to give the eastern families 15% of their property value, not their homes (now Ukraine). Carol
celinski   
27 Dec 2007
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what is absolutely ridiculous

I think the fact that Jewish were really cleared out of Poland, they were safe to claim to be the victim's yet Roman/Greek Catholic had a population that remained. History being reported was of what happened to "Jewish" vs. what happened to "Polish" the real target. Even today I will find sites that are "Jewish" only and I wonder what they did with my family's records that were in the same location. I may not be Jewish but where are my rights. Carol
celinski   
23 Dec 2007
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I don't think that many Poles have problem with Jews

Thanks, just what I was thinking.

There are many Poles who still hate Jews even though no Jews are in Poland any more. What is their problem?

I think you are not looking at the bigger picture. Yes the Jewish people were victims, not the only ones though. I could go into the sin's of the Jewish toward Catholics, it would not serve to change the past. Hitlers plan was for all Polish and how many years have we heard of only the Jewish.

Maybe the Jewish need to hear of the crimes on all the people of Poland. My family is Roman Catholic and our family members were also victims. Can you tell me my pain is less because I an not Jewish?

Carol
celinski   
21 Dec 2007
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Thanks I am LMAO still. I am Roman Catholic but here in the States in High School we used to joke, What are you going to do when you get out of school? Answer, become Jewish.

Let face it they stick together and financally back each other. This is why they can grow and take over neighborhoods. Look at how many Catholic in Poland were killed WW2, never heard of them because the Jewish excluded them and they never spoke out.

Carol
celinski   
19 Dec 2007
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means Polish people expeled form East in 45 will get some money for their properies there ...

This is my family from Wolyn, Poland. We have until Dec. 2008 to put our claims in. What hurt the most was the way our families just vanished from the map. I do not speak Polish as I was 1st born from Poland in USA. Talk about being denied by two countries. USA were telling us to go back to Poland and Poland was not even able to communicate with us. Well Poland I am here if you wondered. I also questioned my father why he is not Ukrainian seeing this is where he was born? LOL Carol
celinski   
17 Dec 2007
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very idiotic move from Russia which greatly harmed global inter-Slavic relations and damaged image of Russia in the eyes of other Slavs (of all faiths- Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant).

And what was, "Katyn" another idodic move. Stalin was killing off the Polish anyway, so what the heck lets use them for slaves until they died. I see it as a wee bit more than your opps. We lost family and country, bummer.

Idodic =an offensive term meaning showing a lack of good sense or intelligence

Carol
celinski   
17 Dec 2007
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germany isn't a threat to you

Poland should view all as threats. Poland needs to think of Poland. Better to be safe than sorry. Thinking they are immune to Germany proved deadly. Yes they have to keep eyes on others closer, but , freedom comes at a price and not all want her to be free.

Russians never we pigs,

Russians sent my family to Siberia. Then to USA.

God bless Poland
celinski   
12 Dec 2007
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I think what they want compensation for is not yours, it was for what they earned. I am not Jewish but Roman Catholic. What I question is who should pay. Poland did not do this or take this from them. Therefore why should they be the ones to compensate.

Carol
celinski   
10 Dec 2007
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cowardly scumsucking creeps that blow up girls in nightclubs and babies in their mammies wombs.

I guess this is how alot of the Polish feel about what happened in "Kresy" region to our families in reserve. They were unarmed farmers sleeping at home with their families. Same with "Katyn" soldiers shot in the head. Carol
celinski   
7 Dec 2007
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teletubbies twins and cronies

If you think they were bad just wait, At least they were not afraid of Russia and spoke up. From what I hear of Poland's new President, he wants to make Russian relations close. I hope for our sake he doesn't mean, kiss but-. Carol
celinski   
6 Dec 2007
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they weren't stolen, they were legally taken away.

What you think our families took a nice little trip to a concentration camp in Siberia? Then because we were so refreshed we decided to build another army on Russian soil or beat feet to So. Africa to some Polish refugee camp for ha ha's.

Poland as rightful owners of the eastern lands gave and sold the property to Polish soilders WW1. My Grandfather built the houses on his property. It was his horse's and cattle he purchased. Carol
celinski   
6 Dec 2007
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I was not clear, I was going to prior to first partition. Carol

Where can I found out more info on this Leszcynski who wrote this brief article?.

I googled and in .11 seconds came up with/use his whole name.

1 - 10 of about 164,000 for Kazimierz Leszczynski .

Carol

Here is a site with:
ENGLISH SUMMARY
of the work by
Wladyslaw Siemaszko and Ewa Siemaszko

GENOCIDE
COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN NATIONALISTS
ON THE POLISH POPULATION OF VOLHYNIA
DURING WORLD WAR II (1939-1945)

"genocide committed against the Polish population during those years. Poles were subjected to genocide - in various forms and on varying scales by the Germans, the Soviets, and the Ukrainians."

Please stop saying this was a "holocaust" and forget the whole story "Our forgotten Polish"

genocide007.webpark.pl/przedmowa_english.htm

Carol
celinski   
6 Dec 2007
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ethnicities were part of the Final Solution

All Polish were to destroyed.

Russia took out militay "Katyn". He then went after WW1 reserve, in this group were military front line that were given their property (in exchange for their medal for bravery" for free. Other Polish military were able to purchase this property from Poland for their service. It was Ukrainians and Jewish that helped point out where they lived. This area is now "Ukraine" or "Kresy".

You may remember the families fleeing to Iran in 1942-43 this was when amnest was granted and they could not go home. Therefore when others say our families had a choice and left, no they did not have a choice. We are Roman/Greek Catholic and Jewish. One thing we had in common, we were all Polish. Stalin's plan was to wipe out any poles, we ended up becoming slaves. Stalin never expected us to live. He just figured what the heck, I'll get some work done until they die. Many did die from conditions or murdered. Many more died on the trip out of Siberia or from diease they got from conditions. To this day many families are still in Siberia because they were unable to get out in a certian time frame. They report being treated poorly. Carol
celinski   
5 Dec 2007
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properties were all stolen by the state of Poland

Before you say that you better look on the map and see what Poland used to be.

No, Poland was given the Kresy,(now Ukraine) but please look at what they lost.

If you go back they got the land back that they owned. Harry was Lwow in Poland?
Carol
celinski   
5 Dec 2007
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Life in Poland for me in my childhood was always about the how wonderful USA is

I am sure you were told this, you were told what the goverment wanted to brainwash you with. They (communist goverment) had to come up with something to hold their heads up high. You heard so much about the holocaust and Jewish that were killed, very few know the whole truth about "Our Forgotten Polish", as I call us. We were in the eastern Poland, we are Katyn and Kresy. We are Roman/Greek Catholic and Jewish. We were born in Poland. My grandfather 1900 in Rzym, Polska.

Our family cemetery is in Poland and then Siberia, So. Africa and now USA. Our documents were removed from the face of the earth. No birth, marriage, baptismal records remained. I never saw a baby picture of my father and the ones I have found, one from Siberia (concentration camp)when 3 year old died in the family. Then when my father was in refugee camps in So. Africa. This I found on the internet. Now with Poland becoming a free country, and internets, translation service we are able to search for our history. It is like the tower of babble has fallen.

Had Stalin really thought out his plan I question what he would think of his victims being able to communicate with their homeland. He spread us thoughout the nation, now we can keep our homeland close from afar.

boths parts like as claiming back properties

We never sold the property and don't worry it now belongs to Ukraine. My understanding is the ones that stayed in Poland were compensated for their property with the property taken from Germany.

So as you can see not all is what you were told.

Carol, USA