Matyjasz
25 Oct 2008
Life / Drinking games in Poland [44]
Drinking games? My mummy forbid me to play with my food and drinks! ;)
Drinking games? My mummy forbid me to play with my food and drinks! ;)
Matyjasz
8 Oct 2008
Language / Poland in different languages? [74]
The song is "Kibel" and the band's name is The Bill. The song is about making plans while using the toilet. Is it bad? It depends what you had in mind.
The song is "Kibel" and the band's name is The Bill. The song is about making plans while using the toilet. Is it bad? It depends what you had in mind.
Matyjasz
7 Oct 2008
Life / Disco Polo - No No No No No! [95]
"Mydełko Fa" was thought as a parody of Disco Polo, or at least Disco Polo's direct predecessor, but in the end it became it's classic tune.
Szabada szabada.... :)
"Mydełko Fa" was thought as a parody of Disco Polo, or at least Disco Polo's direct predecessor, but in the end it became it's classic tune.
Szabada szabada.... :)
Matyjasz
7 Jul 2008
Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]
It is just a matter fo time Z. You will love it, I tell ya! :)
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Oh, and I see that I didn't answer your post in January.
Yes, you can drink in there, unfortunately they don't sell Fortuna. I was thinking about my local tavern in my home town. Proletaryat is still fun though.
Yes sir. Maty knows about it. It almost tastes like cola...not my thing.
It is just a matter fo time Z. You will love it, I tell ya! :)
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Oh, and I see that I didn't answer your post in January.
LOL the one with Lenin's head in the window? I thought that was more of a cafe, but I did see people drinking in there. I think it's across the st. from Morphine, correct?
Yes, you can drink in there, unfortunately they don't sell Fortuna. I was thinking about my local tavern in my home town. Proletaryat is still fun though.
Matyjasz
1 Jun 2008
Life / Drinking games in Poland [44]
No to po szklanie i na rusztowanie! <- construction workers toast. :)
This one reminds me of a toast my friends uncle made once at a wedding.
Zdrowie pięknych Pań! Miejmy nadzieję, że do nas jeszcze dotrą! ;)
Here's one for the beautiful ladies! Lets hope they will still manage to show up! Hahaha :)
No to po szklanie i na rusztowanie! <- construction workers toast. :)
-- Zdrowie pięknych pań oraz mojej żony!
This one reminds me of a toast my friends uncle made once at a wedding.
Zdrowie pięknych Pań! Miejmy nadzieję, że do nas jeszcze dotrą! ;)
Here's one for the beautiful ladies! Lets hope they will still manage to show up! Hahaha :)
Matyjasz
26 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]
I think Harry is right. It's high time we stopped being in denial and took responsibilities for the horrific actions of our forefathers. I think it should be initiated by our PM Tusk calling families of the victims of Polish concentration camps up with a sincere apology.
All 20 of them.
;)
I think Harry is right. It's high time we stopped being in denial and took responsibilities for the horrific actions of our forefathers. I think it should be initiated by our PM Tusk calling families of the victims of Polish concentration camps up with a sincere apology.
All 20 of them.
;)
Matyjasz
26 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]
Harry, did you have the pleasure to meet Puzzler? I imagine you two would get along together very well. :)
Why the Jewish word? Could it because to you that's how all Jews always talk and because I dare to criticise Poles, I must be a Jew? Nice to see you bigotry coming through as always. Do you think you could make it through a single day without making a racist comment? Obviously that day won’t be today because you’ve already posted about how the Germans are horrible people.
Harry, did you have the pleasure to meet Puzzler? I imagine you two would get along together very well. :)
Matyjasz
25 May 2008
Matyjasz
27 Apr 2008
Food / Kopytka, pyzy, kluski [60]
No, pyra is just a potatoe. Mashed potatoes came here from france, thus they are called here "puree" or "duszone ziemniaki". (in Greater Poland "duszone pyry" :) )
No, pyra is just a potatoe. Mashed potatoes came here from france, thus they are called here "puree" or "duszone ziemniaki". (in Greater Poland "duszone pyry" :) )
Matyjasz
27 Apr 2008
Food / Kopytka, pyzy, kluski [60]
We say "pyry" here, thus Greater poland is often being called "Pyrlandia" and it's inhabitants simply "pyry". And kartofelsalad is called "saładka z ziemniaków".
We say "pyry" here, thus Greater poland is often being called "Pyrlandia" and it's inhabitants simply "pyry". And kartofelsalad is called "saładka z ziemniaków".
Matyjasz
27 Apr 2008
Food / Kopytka, pyzy, kluski [60]
Yeah, we've been part of Prusia/Germany for over a century so there certainly was a German influence here. We still love kartofel salad and golonka's. mmmm :)
Yeah, we've been part of Prusia/Germany for over a century so there certainly was a German influence here. We still love kartofel salad and golonka's. mmmm :)
Matyjasz
27 Apr 2008
Food / Kopytka, pyzy, kluski [60]
Hehe.. We also say istny here in Wielkopolska. Well, maybe it's not exactly being said by the young generation, but still...
My grandmother would say that jezdeś rychtyg Hanys. :)
Godom jak istny Hanys, tak
Hehe.. We also say istny here in Wielkopolska. Well, maybe it's not exactly being said by the young generation, but still...
My grandmother would say that jezdeś rychtyg Hanys. :)
Matyjasz
23 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Well than it looks like I shoot myself in my own foot with this comparison, hehehe... :)
As for the Polish-Jewish history it's description and evaluation will always depend on askers intention, thus it doesn't come as a surprise that Poles on this forum will point out the positive facts while you will highlight the negative ones, which certainly did exist. Yes, there were pogroms in Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. Still, it would be hard to find another country which would in such great extent give those people rights and freedoms as Old Rzeczpospolita did. The reason why Jews remained in many cases attached to Yidish is because they were allowed to keep their cultural autonomy. The same reason stands behind the sheer numbers of them living in rzeczpospolita. Certainly if it would be that harsh for them they would migrate elsewhere, for example to Germany, where it seems they were so loved that they decided to totally assimilate. :)
As for the question whether Poles loved Jews, well some did as there were many Polish-Jew marriages and some hated them to their guts. All in all I would consider our joint history definitely positive rather than negative.
Well than it looks like I shoot myself in my own foot with this comparison, hehehe... :)
As for the Polish-Jewish history it's description and evaluation will always depend on askers intention, thus it doesn't come as a surprise that Poles on this forum will point out the positive facts while you will highlight the negative ones, which certainly did exist. Yes, there were pogroms in Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. Still, it would be hard to find another country which would in such great extent give those people rights and freedoms as Old Rzeczpospolita did. The reason why Jews remained in many cases attached to Yidish is because they were allowed to keep their cultural autonomy. The same reason stands behind the sheer numbers of them living in rzeczpospolita. Certainly if it would be that harsh for them they would migrate elsewhere, for example to Germany, where it seems they were so loved that they decided to totally assimilate. :)
As for the question whether Poles loved Jews, well some did as there were many Polish-Jew marriages and some hated them to their guts. All in all I would consider our joint history definitely positive rather than negative.
Matyjasz
23 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Isn't it very similar with Turks in Germany these days?
And didn't they live mostly in their little shtetls without much contact to the Poles...
Isn't it very similar with Turks in Germany these days?
Matyjasz
22 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Thats a long story.
Well since it's not about immigration into the UK I doubt that it'll be a smashing success here on PF. :P
But yeah, it is a very interesting site. It could have been more detailed, but you can not have it all...
After 3rd May constitution it was no longer "The Republic of Both Nations" it was just "Republic of Poland" and Lithuanians voted for it in their local parlaments. What is interesting last time they started to celebrate anniversary of 3rd may constiotution.
Thats a long story.
great site you can make separate thread form this in history section. :)))
Well since it's not about immigration into the UK I doubt that it'll be a smashing success here on PF. :P
But yeah, it is a very interesting site. It could have been more detailed, but you can not have it all...
Matyjasz
21 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
It is something slightly different though. For Adam Mickiewicz it wasn't contradictory to call himself a Pole and write "Lithuania, my fatherland..." For him it was obvious that he can be both and that was the beauty about The Republic of Both Nations.
Certainly, it depends on the scale as well as on the influence those communities have on the mainstream culture. I agree.
It is a very fascinating topic, and a very underestimated and forgotten period in the history of Poland and Central/Eastern Europe at the same time. Somehow people prefer to read about the failed uprisings than about Jagielonian or RoBN times. It really is a pity.
Unfortunately I will have to disappear for some time as I have a lot of work to do and can't be distracted but I will give you a link that will make a quite interesting introduction for the topic we have discussed here. Or at least I hope it will be interesting for you. :))
commonwealth.pl
Enjoy.
PS: I still don't get it why they mentioned French people and forgot about Dutch communities in Poland. Oh well, you can't have it all right? :)
Pozdrawiam
Maciej
It is something slightly different though. For Adam Mickiewicz it wasn't contradictory to call himself a Pole and write "Lithuania, my fatherland..." For him it was obvious that he can be both and that was the beauty about The Republic of Both Nations.
U seem to mistake the presence of certain foreigners as representing multi-culturalism. It depends on the scale of their representation.
Certainly, it depends on the scale as well as on the influence those communities have on the mainstream culture. I agree.
It is a very fascinating topic, and a very underestimated and forgotten period in the history of Poland and Central/Eastern Europe at the same time. Somehow people prefer to read about the failed uprisings than about Jagielonian or RoBN times. It really is a pity.
Unfortunately I will have to disappear for some time as I have a lot of work to do and can't be distracted but I will give you a link that will make a quite interesting introduction for the topic we have discussed here. Or at least I hope it will be interesting for you. :))
commonwealth.pl
Enjoy.
PS: I still don't get it why they mentioned French people and forgot about Dutch communities in Poland. Oh well, you can't have it all right? :)
Pozdrawiam
Maciej
Matyjasz
20 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
I get the message, but I do have a tingling feeling that I must have had said something wrong as we clearly talk about two different Polskas.
I never tried to imply that today's Poland is a multicultural country. My posts were just a response to isthatus claim that Poland never had a multicultural society when in fact not only it had but it made a huge impact on our national identity today, whether some poles are aware of it or not.
So maybe there were no Pakistanis, Indians and Chinese but there were Armenians, Vlachs, Karaites, Tartars, Turks or Jews who were just as exotic and different for Poles from those days as those three nationalities were/are for your people now/few decades ago.
As I mentioned before Poles made only about 50% of the whole population of The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with the rest being all those earlier mentioned nationalities in this and my previous post, which made quite a colorful mosaic. Basically in the ol Republic you could see a catholic church, protestant church, Jewish Synagogue, Karaites Kenese, and Muslim mosque standing in one city without any bigger problems. If you would go to the market you would most likely hear Polish, Ruthenian, German, Greek, Turkish, Persian, Yiddish and what not. Of course just as it is in today's UK, sometimes the communications between the communities were better and sometimes there weren't any, but the truth is that all those cultures influenced each other. Everything started to change after the partitions of the first Rzeczpospolita and now you will see a strange look on some Poles face when he hears that some Belorussians claim Koścuszko and the 3 may constitution to be a part of their history, or when he hears that Lithuanians consider Adam Mickiewicz, polish national poet, to be Lithuanian. Oh well..
My girlfriend is Polish and I asked her if she thought Poland was multicultural. Her reply, "w życiu".
I get the message, but I do have a tingling feeling that I must have had said something wrong as we clearly talk about two different Polskas.
I never tried to imply that today's Poland is a multicultural country. My posts were just a response to isthatus claim that Poland never had a multicultural society when in fact not only it had but it made a huge impact on our national identity today, whether some poles are aware of it or not.
So maybe there were no Pakistanis, Indians and Chinese but there were Armenians, Vlachs, Karaites, Tartars, Turks or Jews who were just as exotic and different for Poles from those days as those three nationalities were/are for your people now/few decades ago.
As I mentioned before Poles made only about 50% of the whole population of The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with the rest being all those earlier mentioned nationalities in this and my previous post, which made quite a colorful mosaic. Basically in the ol Republic you could see a catholic church, protestant church, Jewish Synagogue, Karaites Kenese, and Muslim mosque standing in one city without any bigger problems. If you would go to the market you would most likely hear Polish, Ruthenian, German, Greek, Turkish, Persian, Yiddish and what not. Of course just as it is in today's UK, sometimes the communications between the communities were better and sometimes there weren't any, but the truth is that all those cultures influenced each other. Everything started to change after the partitions of the first Rzeczpospolita and now you will see a strange look on some Poles face when he hears that some Belorussians claim Koścuszko and the 3 may constitution to be a part of their history, or when he hears that Lithuanians consider Adam Mickiewicz, polish national poet, to be Lithuanian. Oh well..
Matyjasz
20 Apr 2008
Food / Kopytka, pyzy, kluski [60]
Yep. I see Seanus that godosz jak prowdziwy Hanys. :)
Modro kapusta is Silesian for red cabbage. I think it's modro.
Yep. I see Seanus that godosz jak prowdziwy Hanys. :)
Matyjasz
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / I have concerns over the British immigration policy so I wrote to my MP. [126]
Since that’s the case maybe admin should think about opening a sub forum for Brits disappointed with their countries immigration policy. Seems to be quite a popular topic on polishforums.
hhhhmmmm and what was that i was advised to do, write to my MP, well look what you get from it, nothing, in fact you get told to get out so they can make more room for more immigrants :)
Since that’s the case maybe admin should think about opening a sub forum for Brits disappointed with their countries immigration policy. Seems to be quite a popular topic on polishforums.
Matyjasz
20 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
I also had some kids that didn’t have the first communion. None of them were Jewish though. Bad luck? Not necessarily. In my primary school there were bullies that would pick on you because you were fat, skinny, poor, wealthy, teachers pupil or the worst learning kid in the class. Being Jewish might had been a good cause to pick on you as well. Children can be cruel you know.
I had a few friends in my class who didn't go to the first communion. Some were Jews some weren't. Nobody thought twice about that, and we went on to play "injuns" as always. You must have some real bad luck.
I also had some kids that didn’t have the first communion. None of them were Jewish though. Bad luck? Not necessarily. In my primary school there were bullies that would pick on you because you were fat, skinny, poor, wealthy, teachers pupil or the worst learning kid in the class. Being Jewish might had been a good cause to pick on you as well. Children can be cruel you know.
Matyjasz
18 Apr 2008
Life / Polish culture do's and dont's? [106]
Actually it's not about criticism but about how you are going to voice it. Lets take those two comments for example:
"I must say, the state of the roads here in Poland are far from being good."
"Dear God, the roads here are as much filthy and crooked as you polish bastards!"
Basically those two statements carry the same message but since they are conveyed in a tottaly different manner they will cause a totally different response.
Actually it's not about criticism but about how you are going to voice it. Lets take those two comments for example:
"I must say, the state of the roads here in Poland are far from being good."
"Dear God, the roads here are as much filthy and crooked as you polish bastards!"
Basically those two statements carry the same message but since they are conveyed in a tottaly different manner they will cause a totally different response.
Matyjasz
18 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Poles made about 50% of the Polish-Lithuanians Commonwealth population. Can we call PLC a homogenous country?
How would you define modern multicultural country, Seanus?
Yeah, there were some of these peoples here, but very much in the minority. It could never be seen as multiculturalism in the fullest sense. Not as we know it.
Poles made about 50% of the Polish-Lithuanians Commonwealth population. Can we call PLC a homogenous country?
How would you define modern multicultural country, Seanus?
Matyjasz
16 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Well during the time of the Republic of Both Nations Poles made about 50% of the whole population of the Commonwealth. The rest constituted from Lithuanians, today’s Byelorussians and Ukrainians, Jews, Karaites, Germans, Latvians, Armenians, Gypsies, Tartars as well as Dutch and Czech communities. There were also strong merchant communities of Greeks and Italians. English, Hungarian and Scotish commnunities were also present but not to the extent of the previous mentioned nationalities of course. Generally there were over 20 languages present in the ROBN and several religions. If that’s not multi cultural than I don't know what is.
bollox Poland ever had multi culturalism....It had Poles and it had Jews,and the 2 groups only mixed when they had too.Of course others went to Poland but this was in the days before nationalisim/race conciousness in its modern sense.
Well during the time of the Republic of Both Nations Poles made about 50% of the whole population of the Commonwealth. The rest constituted from Lithuanians, today’s Byelorussians and Ukrainians, Jews, Karaites, Germans, Latvians, Armenians, Gypsies, Tartars as well as Dutch and Czech communities. There were also strong merchant communities of Greeks and Italians. English, Hungarian and Scotish commnunities were also present but not to the extent of the previous mentioned nationalities of course. Generally there were over 20 languages present in the ROBN and several religions. If that’s not multi cultural than I don't know what is.
Matyjasz
13 Apr 2008
Study / Academy of Fine Arts - Poznan "SPOT" [6]
Hey £ukasz, Poznań has a cathedral so it's ok to call it a city. At least by British standards. :)
I decided to show cultural part of town where I live ;-)
Hey £ukasz, Poznań has a cathedral so it's ok to call it a city. At least by British standards. :)
Matyjasz
10 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
Wow, you do not steal and you are not racist? How atypical. ;)
i am an atypical Pole, i am not religious at all, i hate vodka :), i do not steal, i have a very high academic degree and i teach English in America.
Wow, you do not steal and you are not racist? How atypical. ;)
Matyjasz
8 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]
I think those problems should not only be accepted but also dealth with if it such a troblesome issue for the UK. Still I'm afraid that Polish people have no influence over the british immigration policy thus making it more of a british forum subject rather than a PF one. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind discussing it but the amount of topics concerning this issue is second only to WWII threads, which clearly says volumes. At times I have the impression that this messageboard is about Britain rather than Poland.
I'm also not sure why you're getting upset about merely discussing the issue. I think we all accept this is an important subject with ramifications for both countries and that perhaps things are not going quite as smoothly as we would all like. There are problems. Cant we accept this?
I think those problems should not only be accepted but also dealth with if it such a troblesome issue for the UK. Still I'm afraid that Polish people have no influence over the british immigration policy thus making it more of a british forum subject rather than a PF one. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind discussing it but the amount of topics concerning this issue is second only to WWII threads, which clearly says volumes. At times I have the impression that this messageboard is about Britain rather than Poland.
Matyjasz
4 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]
In most cases the conclusion is that it's the fault of Tony Blair and the British Government and yet the last time I checked this forum was not a government one.
Oh well, let us skip this very interesting question for now and focus on a totally different issue, namely could it have been avoided? Could a low skilled British factory worker, or any factory worker for that matter, enjoy his 9 pounds/euro per hour work life for a long time in times when people are working literally for a bowl of rice? How many "Made in China" products do you have in your home? There is quite a collection in my house.
The influx of cheap Eastern European, or as some prefer, Polish labor force to British Isles created new job places whether you like it or not. It also put down the wages for the low skilled workers. You can’t have it all, right?
This year Nokia decided to move it's factory from Bochum Germany to Romania. The Germans lost 2 300 job places as well as tax from that company which will benefit Romanian citizens from now on. It's just time when Poland will became to expensive for the factory owners. I doubt you can stop that process.
So what have we learned today kids? That it’s better to be rich and healthy than sick and poor! Which the former I wish you all. :)
All these discussions about the mass immigration of Poles to Britain and the associated debates that come with it always raise the question "Who created this mess?"
The responses are always either a) the immigrants themselves or b)the British government.
The responses are always either a) the immigrants themselves or b)the British government.
In most cases the conclusion is that it's the fault of Tony Blair and the British Government and yet the last time I checked this forum was not a government one.
Oh well, let us skip this very interesting question for now and focus on a totally different issue, namely could it have been avoided? Could a low skilled British factory worker, or any factory worker for that matter, enjoy his 9 pounds/euro per hour work life for a long time in times when people are working literally for a bowl of rice? How many "Made in China" products do you have in your home? There is quite a collection in my house.
The influx of cheap Eastern European, or as some prefer, Polish labor force to British Isles created new job places whether you like it or not. It also put down the wages for the low skilled workers. You can’t have it all, right?
This year Nokia decided to move it's factory from Bochum Germany to Romania. The Germans lost 2 300 job places as well as tax from that company which will benefit Romanian citizens from now on. It's just time when Poland will became to expensive for the factory owners. I doubt you can stop that process.
So what have we learned today kids? That it’s better to be rich and healthy than sick and poor! Which the former I wish you all. :)
Matyjasz
2 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Of course it does damnit and a fine shine it is! ;]
More seriously though, if you don't see the amount of posts made by british posters moaning about the influx of Poles to the UK than you are the one that's being disilusioned here isthatu.
What is your solution than?
yes,Polish history and politics,but,dont look if like polska doll your under the delusion that the sun shines out of every Poles beehind.
Of course it does damnit and a fine shine it is! ;]
More seriously though, if you don't see the amount of posts made by british posters moaning about the influx of Poles to the UK than you are the one that's being disilusioned here isthatu.
Yes,as are many thousands of people forced out of the job market around these parts.....
What is your solution than?
Matyjasz
2 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Are we thinking about the same forum? Don't want to spoil your fun isthatu, but at times it seems that this forum is only about UK and its immigration policy.
10 .000 Isrealis plan to move to Poland gets 18 pages of fear and bigotry....hhhmmmm
I million Poles move to the uk and by and large no immi is a lone voice....yes,no double standards on show here.....
I million Poles move to the uk and by and large no immi is a lone voice....yes,no double standards on show here.....
Are we thinking about the same forum? Don't want to spoil your fun isthatu, but at times it seems that this forum is only about UK and its immigration policy.
Matyjasz
1 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]
Congratulations noimmigration! Does that mean that you will stop visiting this site? What a pity. ;)
HIP HIP HOORAY
Congratulations noimmigration! Does that mean that you will stop visiting this site? What a pity. ;)