UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

Well as a UK national i've always been asked for ID when travelling on ferries and planes out of the mainland. You don't have to tell me anything about irish-uk relations as i dont have to preach about german-polish relations to you. There was spot checks at all ports and border crossings during the troubles... always was.

Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]


Indeed but my insurance here (same details age, experience etc) is 1/4 of the cost in the UK. Even though i would be less likely to have an accident or have my car stolen. In the UK its due to no-win solicitors, tax and greedy insurance companies. I wonder what would happen if they opened up the insurace market to foreign insurers in the UK?

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]


They ask for ID because as you prove not everybody is a UK citizen. We still have the passport controls on all borders. The same as airlines.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

who?

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]


So Stena at Belfast would let a Pole sail to the UK without ID? I really dont think so... You really dont know uk history. Up until 5-6 years ago the IRA ran terrorist cells in mainland UK and therefore security at all UK ports has always been tight. UK isn't Poland we are seen as a country to 'have a go' at unlike little Poland.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

Barney

No he isn't.... taken from stena line... 'British or Irish citizens travelling on our Irish Sea routes do not need a passport to travel to Britain or Ireland but are advised to take a form of identity. A driving licence, citizenship card or utility bill will usually suffice. A birth certificate will provide adequate proof of identity for your child to travel on our sailings. Other passport holders should check with the relevant embassy regarding passport and visa requirements.

the truth.....

or

There is absolutely no obligation for them to carry any form of identity when sailing between Northern Ireland and Great Britain. Advised doesn't mean "required" - and a utility bill is hardly a form of identification. So - our friend has now entered Great Britain, all without a single check by the UK authorities.

the lies!!

We are talking about Poles travelling and not British or Irish Citizens.... what form of ID will a Pole be allowed onto a ferry with? an empik gift card? a krakow bus card? a polish utility bill? Call Stena and find out!

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]


Did you read the link of Stena Line? Of course being a Pole you will know lots about the British love of security. ;)

Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]

Car prices are the same. The Poles buy second hand of the Germans. Some of the higher end German cars are slightly cheaper. Insurance int he UK is criminal and is high due to 'ambulance chasers' something that Poland hasn't got around to yet. In Poland car insurance is cheaper (about 1/4 of the cost) but they have more accidents, road deaths and cars stolen. Petrol is about 1.10 pounds a liter in Poland (compared to 1.40 in the UK), the UK also seems to have stricter laws regarding MOT's (in Poland you see so many death-traps on the road), the cost of tests/exams are more in the UK and the costs of fines etc are more.

So generally it is cheaper to run a car in Poland. But would you really want to drive in Poland. They only have 1 F1 driver and even he managed to hit a house!

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

Clutching at straws! The republic is a non-schengen country Poles have to produce passports/card to enter. Im sure non British/Irish passengers on ferries would also need to produce a passport/id card...

taken from stena line... 'British or Irish citizens travelling on our Irish Sea routes do not need a passport to travel to Britain or Ireland but are advised to take a form of identity. A driving licence, citizenship card or utility bill will usually suffice. A birth certificate will provide adequate proof of identity for your child to travel on our sailings. Other passport holders should check with the relevant embassy regarding passport and visa requirements. '

I bet there's not alot of Poles working in Northern Ireland. So for a Pole to gain access to mainland Britain then they would be registered on the home office system. Date of arrival and the date they leave unless they are smuggled over in the back of a lorry.

Real Estate / What do you pay in rent/mortgage in Poland? [144]

Peter.... Please come to see REAL POLISH PEOPLE in REAL POLISH TOWNS before spouting of your rubbish.


64%... and a fair percentage of these live in 35sq/m 1 bedrooms apartments in crumbling ex-communist blocks that will be condemned in the next 20 years or in houses in villages that should also be condemned...it's not the amount of owner occupiers you need to look at but the overall state of the housing stock. The Polsih government don't build anywhere near the amount of social housing needed.

4%... paying market rent.... but ever increasing price rises and wages (inflation) mean that the other 32% will soon be paying this as well or be faced to live 3 generations of a family in a 3 bedroom house.

only 6% of Poles could ever afford to get a mortgage with a minimum wage of 1500zl a month.... wonder how many beidronka workers or factory workers have mortgages?

Come to Poland and see block after block of empty apartments....and block after block of crumbling apartments.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]


Really? The last on was last year 2011. If any Poles in the UK at the time ommited to fill in the census they could have been imprisoned. All documents that need to be filled in and sent to the Uk government by Poles to legally live in the UK are a form of registration. Correct there is no direct registration but don't kid yourself to think that Poles haven't registered the Home office know everything.

The people in the UK are one of the most watched citizens on the planet there is CCTV everywhere.

Apart from Government forms and taxes Poles fill in to live legally (council tax, tax forms etc) are also logged coming into and out of the UK as the UK makes all travellers to and from the UK provide passport information before arriving. I can live in Germany and travel to Poland without the Polish government ever knowing due to the Schengen agreement and therefore I can rent a house and run an illegal business and the Polish authorites would never know i was ever in Poland.... you simply can't do that in the UK.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


YAWN!!

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

Again Peter ignores comments writtin by people who LIVE IN POLAND!

Food / Where to buy British mature Cheddar Cheese and salted butter in Poland? [289]

Polish Shandy!! what's all that about?

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

What do they mean by live? If you read in my last post they would need to register somewhere in order to live... will they not work? pay taxes? rent a property? attend a hospital?

All Poles clue themselves up on Uk benefits before leaving Poland.... do they just hand benefits to unregistered people?

UK, Ireland / LGV Lorry vs PCV Bus Training - which more popular for Poles in the UK? [5]

JacobHoldingLGV

Ive got a brother with a PSV license in the UK. He's english and can't get a job! Why would the Poles go to the UK to do training for a job that doesn't exist! You're clutching at straws adertising on here.

p.s. the Poles are the worst drivers in Europe! You'd be lucky if any of them would ever pass a real driving test without giving a 'back hand' to the examiner.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

peterweg

Whatever you still cant just live in a country without registering. In the Uk you would have to complete the census under section 8 of the census act if you are in the UK (its the law)

ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/census/2011/what-is-a-census/how-information-is-collected-and-processed/index.html

'Everyone in the country was under an obligation to complete a census form, and a limited number of people were prosecuted for failing to comply with this obligation'

Also the may have to register to pay council tax, be registered with the inland revenue if you are working, have a tv license, want to use a hospital... the list is endless.

I can wander round any EU country willy nilly but not if i want to work or live in the country..especially the data hungry, cctv laden UK.

Law / Polish speaking business partner [16]

Obviously you havent been in a democracy long enough to see how it works. What advanced industrial investment are you talking about?.. in the UK we spend more on R and D then most of the world. We invest in not only industrial development and technology but also in genetic research etc. I hardly think that a samsung LCD plant or a cholcolate factory are an advanced industrial investment!!!

As i said before commie....Tesco not only sell things but also buy things and create things in Poland. They create jobs and wealth and also open up polish goods to a worldwide market that the Poles would have no idea of exploiting. This is why Tesco are one of the biggest supermarket chains in the world. The Poles dont produce their own high-end goods to sell they arnt manufacturing top-grade weaponry or jet aircraft.... Poland needs Tesco more then Microsoft, Samsung or Nissan.

Understand??

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

well said milky.. Peter weg is a polish tourist who thinks what the polish government tell him is Fact!

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucitizens/

Have a read.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]

Easy.... they could be avoiding paying income tax for one alot of Poles in the Uk are working menial jobs/seasonal jobs in farming/factories/building sites and are probably their 'cash in hand' so wont count on any UK statistics.

They could also have been in the UK longer then 3 months without registering at the local job centre or whatever they have to do. Even in the 'mess that is the EU' you still can't just wander into another country without playing by their rules. In poland you have register within 3 months or you are illegal.

Poles can't just wander around willy-nilly.

UK, Ireland / Polish immigrants in the UK - the next generation [87]


No one knows. The government keeps statistics but there are alot of illegal Polish workers in the UK.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

But Harry is correct. So Ironside thinks that all the other EU countries should just give the Poles money for nothing in return. How naive!!

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

Poland got nothing for free? ... are you really worth bothering with?

The Germans would have destroyed the Polish 'untermensch' if it wasn't for the contribution that the British men and women that gave up their lives and freedom to help them.Honestly, Some younger Poles now are just ungrateful little ignorant *****s! Next time you are in Poznan take a wander to the Commonwealth war cemetary and learn the meaning of the work respect! Poland now doesn't have an armed force and will again rely on the Uk to dig you out of your next hole. So much for combatent complex.

It's about time the the Polish people started growing a back-bone against corrupt and useless politicians that keep dragging them from one crisis to another on the promise of some free and easy money. Poland finally needs to try to become really independant and develop itself from a 'poor' second-world country ...but with people like you mate....it will never happen!

Keep telling yourself that Poland is the best country in the world. Whilst you do that change the wheel on your ox-cart.

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]


Im not 110... my point was that countries in the past including close family members of mine did fight for the freedom that the EU is eroding daily. (ps.my grandad is alive and 89 and a veteran)

The German people on a whole arn't..the English definately arn't.. the Poles are... If you give me 50zl's of your friends money i'd be happier then him for it. You must be a getter then a giver to come up with that!

When the English stop giving Poland will be in deep *****. It will happen.

The Poles are being led blindly into a whole socialist ideal. Wait til the Germans want something back in return ... Pomorania???
Poland is making it's own bed a will lie on it alone next time. I for one won't be picking up a gun to fight for Poland... your people deserve what will come.

Law / Polish speaking business partner [16]


I would. Your either with foreign investment in Poland or against it. or talking rubbish.

Law / Polish speaking business partner [16]

Grzegorz... on one hand chastising all foreigners for overtaking Polish businesses and on the other enquiring to this post.

Im confused!

Law / Polish speaking business partner [16]


OMG is that how they are turning out degree students now?

News / Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story? [711]

Ironside join the club. When i'm leader you can be my second in command. Only thing is that you have to agree with everything i say.

History / Why WERE Those Death Camps Built in Poland, Then? [47]


Classic! Just for that you're off my ignore list.