Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Originally, it was a theory by a French scientist. Later, it was reconsidered by Ataturk when there was nationalist movements in Europe and in Ottoman lands.

Such ultimate theories can not be proved wrong or false. Science today (even physical sciences are biased, so, science history too is biased. When (if) we see China as superpower in next decade, whole world will learn everythings were invented by Chinese in the past. We have seen this since last century in the West. But, West deny, for example, they don't mention Albert Einstein was an Ashkenazi, at least, they try to hide such facts.

So, the theory that says Turks moved to Anatolia first time in 1000s is belong to the West. If Bush says twin-towers were attacked by El-Kaide, it will be written in written history and will stay so as long as USA or Bush-like people in USA stay as power and all other stories will remain as bla bla or conspiracies. Things about the history too are like that.

I will give another example that may show Turks living in Anatolia long time ago, even 7000-8000 years ago, neolithic age. Years ago, I had a hobby, collection in weavings, hand made carpets (knotted weavings) and kilims (flatwavings.) All collectors including experts whose professions were professors, etc etc too were agreeing that there are two kinds of motifs in weavings; geometric and floral. Geometric motifs were attributed to Turkics while florals were attributed to Persians. About two decades ago, a British archeolog found wall paintings in Catalhoyuk, a 8000 years old city (known oldest settled civilization place) in central Turkey. Those motifs were very similar to old Turkic kilim weavings. So, how come it was possible? Weavings, especially kilim weaving (flatwoven items) with geometrical motifs were almost always seen in Turkic cultures. This has been debated much among collectors, etc for 20 years. Here is one of them against this theory: marlamallett.com/chupdate.htm

So, with this and also with some other theories like Runic alphabet's similarity (found in Anatolia too) to Turkic Orhun alphabet divided classical Western teaching, so, world schoolars too.

While written sources aren't telling any true (logical) story about twin-towers, how can you say Turks were not there in Anatolia before 1000? Maybe, they came to Anatolia several times tousands of years ago too. Btw, even Italians accept they have a close relativeness with Turks. Late findings say Irish people were farmers in Anatolia before.

I didn't use any written source much or didn't take any written source as reference when I mentioned about the dom/dam. There are some words I know (I grew in rural life here) that even Turkish written sources don't know and Turks here don't know. I heard them from very old people years ago. Spoken language may be telling some more truths as written sources are usually political sources changing depending to the power of the day.

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Trouble is everywhere.. Fasten your belts, economy crisis will continue till everywhere including West is in trouble. It doesn't matter for Poland now whether they have left or right wing. Before Poland, West will change.

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Here Anatolia. It was like a bridge between capitalist zone and communist zone. But, I know it was not only here, but, such things happened any place far from palaces like Birmingam palace, White house palace, Kremlin palace, etc..

Russians didn't know what the socialism is. If they knew, they could close their nuclear reactors those days. They didn't and it showed that they were not different than capitalists or not different than Gaddafi's Libya Socialist Republic.. A true socialist does not fear to die. Russians feared. Capitalists were/are already sh*tting in their pants.

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If there is anyone who will be more destructive, they are people like me who lived for two decades in anarchy land that had became an arena between capitalists and communists. Everyday, tens of people were being killed.. while centers like London, Washington, Moscow, Warsaw, etc were not living anything serious.. It is their time to pay and I give no chance! Russians already stepped back and became capitalists... now, West have to be communists!

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Socialism you lived in was another version of capitalism, it was not socialism really. It was Russian nationalist socialism only.

Socialism was tried only for some decades. Comparing this period for tousands of years of capitalism that tortured masses, etc, socialism can be considered it was not lived really.

However, before Poland now, it is their time for Britain and USA and Western Europe to try to do better socialism. They have no other chance. If they say they are not interested, it'll be global and it can be destructive.. doesnt matter for poor masses..

PS: Capitalists think capitalism is richness. True socialism is much richer than capitalism. Capitalist system is a stupid system that has been tried again again again.. Their final point is reached, nuclear disaster.

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Poland suffered under communism for 50-60 years.
Poland suffered under capitalism for 500-600 years.
Europe have suffered capitalism for 1000-2000 years.
USA have suffered capitalism for 300-400 years.
..
etc

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Do you realize your bias-ing here above? You start with "you don't know" and then you say as if you are sure you say "this Indoeuropean root" and then, you question possibility of its coming from Turkic. But, you already put the root, to IndoEuro domain. So, the rest of your words will be on that biased root. Then, you say your knowledge is "superficial". Don't mind, researchers are not different, they do researches with same mentality, biased minds, hence, their knowledge too is superficial. (btw, we translate superficial to "yuzeysel" means somethings like surface-al. Researchers are like fishes in deep sea. They don't think there is a ground at the bottom of sea as they fear to dive till the ground under the sea.)

I will give another example before returning to talk about Dom/Dam.
Am... This is p*ssy in Turkic. I quickly checked what research documents say about it. According to research literatures (mostly western/greek, chinese and arabic written literatures), they say origin of "Am" is "Amon", an old Egypt god/goddess/whatever. Everybody can now understand where Amin/Amen word comes from, Arabic/Semitic.. But... wait.. It does have no meaning in Arabic/Semitic or in any other language. It is just a name of an old Egyptian king/queen, called god/goddess. So, it is not that "Am" comes from "Amon", but, "Amon" comes from "Am", that's Turkic word for p*ssy. It is not surprise to derive many words in Turkic as it is agglutinative language, especially if it is such a basic word like sexual organ, that its root can be older than many tousands of years. Here are examples: Dam (we discussing this here), Damla (droplet, rain droplet), Odam/Adam (Man), etc etc.

Of course, it is possible Turkics and IndoEuropeans too might have same ancestors in the past. Religions and Darwinism don't differ about that, we didn't come from plural, but, from singular according to both of them. One says Eva (rib of Adam) and Adam and the other says Amip/Ameba/Amoeba/whatever.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

hmm.. thanks.
Just checked google translation.
do -> to
do magac -> a-quire, to the quire (must be "inquire" then when combined, so, "demand" is correct translation then or inquire.)

magac - might? "might" must be same as "can" as it shows ability/capability in one of translations in google. by the way, it is strange or not that it is closer to "magia"/magic. anyway, this is not important.

ok, domagac = (to) inquire, (to) demand.
dogamal is past tense?, derived from it by changing c to l? means inquired/demanded? (seperate translation of do + magal didn't give any result.)

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They know they themselves were/are lazy people.
They know the richest 5% people there like everywhere else were/are lazy people.
Have you thought that those 5% richest people, powerfuls, politicians have become riches and powers by hard working? Then, good morning.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

Derivation of words from Dom (in Polish.)

Ok, I found before

Domagac (to demand - root "dem" in English too probably has connection to dom/dam.)

Domagal (demanded - past tense really - or, it also sounds imperative?)

Domagala (should demand - also means "wish (she/he) demands"?)

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Don't you get? Nomads have no written sources. They don't write what nomads have said. (Seriously, I told what the root of Dom/Dam is. again again. if you read posts again, you will see.)

Ps: My posts have not been off-topic, so, don't deserve to be in the bin. However, it is mod work.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

Yiddish is a mixed language mainly Ashkenazi (Altaic lang) with words from German and Hebrew. "Ra" has Hebrew root, transferred from old Egypty times, and Dom has Altaic root. Radom is Yiddish word with no Germanic word inclusion. But, if Poles want to translate "Radom" as "bad blood", it is upto them.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

you are off-topic.

anyway. my evidences, relating dom/dam to a nomadic culture/language is stronger than the research article there.

I will give another word, derived indirectly, relevant, "adam/odam" which means "man."

What about Yiddish? I read somewhere "ra dom" means "bad blood" which didn't make sense. Maybe, ra = sun god in an ancient egypt religion and "dam" is house. We know Abraham lived in Egypt before he moved to Israel. Beside, sky god, moon god, earth god, sun god too existed in tengri/shamanism/paganism, old religions of nomads.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Quickly read (as a former scientist, I can read an article very quickly.)
Searched the article for keywords, "turk" and "nomad."
It writes about every possibility from Greek to Slav to Hittite, etc, but, no, no any mention about to turk nor to nomad. So, you can throw this research document into garbage, it is a politically biased article. Chinese and Arabic written sources have done such things too a lot in history, they did everythings not to mention about the nomads. I see the same thing here in this article too, even in 21th century.

Been in physical science (math and phys), I know biased, political, so-called scientific articles even in technical sciences everywhere. So, it is no surprise to see another biased article in history/linguist article.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

I didn't even need to read that scholar document, so called scientific document, as soon as I read "to build."

"To build" is a newer term than "dam/dom/dem" as "to build" is more about settled life culture. They gave a meaning "to build" to "dam/dom/dem" which already existed even before humans were settled. (read my post above again, about what "dam/dom" can be, anything with any cover on your head whether it is built or not. So, dam/dom/dem is older word than built related.)

Here is another used term in Turkic. "Gok Dam" which means Sky.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Prove it. (even if it is so, it is a nomadic word. Turkic nomads have kept the original word, Dam, and we still use it everywhere. It being not mentioned in written sources of West show a simple thing, inferior complexity. Come on, it is just a word. Damn.)

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


It is related. Home/House is Ev. As I said before, in Turkic, Dam is any kind of cover above your head, can be a cave, be a roof, can be a ceiling, be a tent, be a tree, be a house, etc. Dam is such a broad meaning word. Why do you need to be under such things in a nomadic life as humans were when they were not settled yet? It is due to natural events and raining is one of them.

Ps: Written sources do not write history/lifes of nomads. Nomads were considered as uncivilized by settled people who started to write things, but, biased writings as they didn't like to write anything about nomads, not to give these primitives any credit.

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In my first post, already did that. Connected the word Dom/Dam to a natural event, "damla" (rain droplet) and "damlamak" (to drip) as a nomad travelling in the nature can do. This is stronger evidence than any claim's given in written sources. Ps: I used "can", to allow you space to bring your "can", your possible evidence about the root of Dom given in written sources which say not much other than saying "it is Latin/Greek/Slav origin." So, written sources have weaker evidence than mine, but, they do not mention Turkic. It is not problem, but, it shows your written history sources were probably written by scholars like Crow.

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It seems that you insist on talking history, rather than simply giving proof evidences about daily life languages spoken even today. Okayy..

Before humans were settled, humans were nomadic. This is not my claim only, but also written sources say so. Ok, we agree in this? Ok. Before humans settled, they were not speaking any word? Of course, they were doing. Before any civilization/city/settlement happened, nomads (whether they were Turkic or Europeans, doesnt matter) were already using some technical things such as cutting sheep hairs and flatweaving them to make clothes or tents.

In Turkic, there is a word for house, in the sense we understand. It too is an old word, "ev", but, it is more about certain type of house like in settled places. The word Dam in Turkic is more than that. Dam is a very broad/generic/old name, it can be anything, it can be a house, it can be a prison, it can be a cave, it can be even a tree, etc, anything that you can be under while it is raining, etc. When humans are settled, they kept calling still nomadic people as uncivilized people, but, they were still using some old spoken words and Dam/Dom can be such a word.

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I am not doing that, written sources already doing that, stopping at points in history they like and discount others. Again, like I said, there is more evidence about origin of word Dom/Dam to Turkic and no written sources have written anything about that. It shows that your written sources are blind. No, deaf.


stones will be put in their places..

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

We are not at a school trying to get a good grade by repeating like parrots whats written in written history.

True, their last come to Anatolia happened in 10-11th century, but, it was army. Before that dates, there were nomadic Turkic tribes living in Anatolia which was under control of Byzantine at that time. According to new findings, Turkics might have controlled Anatolia several times in the history. Lets not forget that Anatolia has been a craddle of many different civilizations throughout the history.

Talking such history does not tell anything about the origin of word Dam.
I am using a simple daily life language to prove written sources biased as they are mentioning only Greek/Latin/Slav about the origin of Dom/Dam while it is more closely related to Turkic and there are more evidences about that.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]


Again. Saying it it comes from Proto IndoEuropean is not enough. Try to prove it (like I did in my first post.)

Who says Turks came to Anatolia later? According to a theory that sounds very logical, Turks were in Anatolia even 7000 years ago. Some in-scripted stones in Anatolia with estimated age of several thousands of years were found. They were written in Runic alphabet, similar to inscriptions in Sweden, Finland, etc. Fyi, Runic/Futhark alphabet are very similar to old Turkic alphabet Orhun alphabet. Western written sources are biased, maybe, due to Chinese written sources. Stop reading Chinese written sources. They won't write truth about Turkics and Japans as they had had long wars with them.

I can give further proofs about Dam being Turkic word. But, you all are saying it is IndoEuro. It does not matter, but, prove. using your daily speaking language.

Language / Polish word "Dom" and its similarities in different languages [46]

Saying it Dom is originated from Latin or Roman or Greek or Slav is not enough. What you are doing is not different than written sources that are doing that already and they do not mention Turkic at all. It is not really so important if it is Turkic or not, but, when written sources don't mention Turkic, it shows inferior complexity or some hidden agenda or trying to pump prides of some groups closer to West. With such biased approaches, it is no civilization. If logic, here is logic (in my first post above) and more logical connection to natural event/verb than they do.

Lets not enter which civilizations are older and which are not. It is no hard to know written sources are biased according to powers of the world today, those permanent(!) UN members. You/scientists will say the old ancient history is unknown and you will say this civilization is older and that civilization is not. Absurd logic.

I am using the language that is still used today in my claim, I am not talking history. I gave a simple possible derivation of "dam" from a Turkic word/verb. Much more logical than written sources saying it is originally latin or greek or slav.

Ps: never forget that verbal history is older than written histories. after verbal history. After verbal unwritten history, artefact products such as weavings come before civilization/city histories. Check "catalhoyuk.com", 8000 years old, known oldest civilization/city in the world, it is 100 miles away from here. On its wall, there is a geometrical figure that copied a figure in weaving (fyi, geometrical weavings are related to Turkic culture.) Anyway, these are another story. Tell more about dam/dom.

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I am here, to try to convince Southern about Aegean girls who are more beautiful and better. He a young boy probably fell in a desperate love for a Polish girl.

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Our women were horseriders, warriors, etc, had body shapes like bow. We Turk men were not different, we were muscleds, fast and like arrows. We invaded these Greek lands and we became lazy like them, now, doing not much and eating kebabs here. It is because of Greeks, we became so. Also, due to islam, head scarves, etc, some of our women look like Arabs as well. But, we are not hopeless yet. We have potentials. I still see some remainings in Aegean region. Girls of, for ex, Izmir are more beautiful than anywhere. They are some reddish bloody skins unlike fade whites. Ps: In this Mediterranean region, there are every colors from blondes, blacks, black eyes, green, blue, etc eyes unlike there with women with white skins only, not, not white, but, pinks.

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Really. Poles I know of are working like Chinese people on day life. In that sense, Poles differ from other Europeans who are mostly lazy people who are after quick easy money. However, Poles differ in night life. Chinese are more family dependent people at nights.

Conceptually, yes, Pole is a concept just like Turk is. Pole is a newer concept while Turk is an older concept.

History / What nation do Poles feel closer to? [74]

Geographically and linguistically, to Slavic countries (most of neighbours are Slavs, aren't they?)

Religiously and economically, to Germany.

Historically, to Hungary (first kingdoms are relatives of Hungary, aren't they.)

Militarily, to US-UK (also to Russia.)

Work effortly, to China. (Poles are hard workers in Europe.)

Beauty making effortly, to Greece (seems there are many Aphrodites in Poland.)

Conceptually, to Turk. (Pole and Turk are concepts rather than races. That's, mixture of everythings from race to religion to etc.)

Don't be closer to Serbs, they can teach only one good thing, basketball.

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Oh, Southern, this hurts. You are a descendent of Zeuses, Hermeses, Aphrodites, etc. It is time to rebuilt Hellenic civilization. Aegean women are still beautiful, more than Northerners.

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Not a city, but, a village near Istanbul: polonezkoy.com