Posts by Paulina

Paulina

20 Jun 2016

Life / In Poland, are women and girls obligated to wear head scarves in church? [36]

At one time women were not allowed to wear trousers in church

In Poland?

Nowadays it is very hard to get any congregations in church

Not in my city ;)

Paulina

20 Jun 2016

Work / A PhD Moving to Kraków, Poland! Salary, housing, spendings, nightlife, English knowledge. [14]

I would say that's a big fat 'no',if you mean an apartment with a living room and separate bedroom.

Ah, yes, I thought that by a single bedroom apartment he meant a studio flat (?) - "kawalerka" (bachelor apartment) is a studio flat, which means it consists of one room only.

Well, maybe except for that last offer I've linked to - the bedroom looks kind of separate it seems.

Atch, yes, I've just given some random examples of flats and to show that utilities aren't often included in the price of rent, I don't have the time to look for the best offers for him, I'm affraid he'll have to look for himself and weigh all the advantages and disadvantages and whether he can afford it etc.

And yes, it's always better to be weary of every offer and check everything well, make sure how much you will really have to pay in the end :)

Paulina

20 Jun 2016

Life / In Poland, are women and girls obligated to wear head scarves in church? [36]

What about the Polish Catholic Church? Is it the same rule there as well?

Nope, women in Catholic churches in Poland don't cover their heads. Unless it's winter and the church is not heated or sth then they could wear winter hats, I guess lol

Elderly women in the countryside quite often still wear headscarfs but they wear it all the time, no matter where they are.

Paulina

20 Jun 2016

Work / A PhD Moving to Kraków, Poland! Salary, housing, spendings, nightlife, English knowledge. [14]

Thank you very much Paulina for your very detailed response, it has been extremely heplful :)

You're welcome, I'm glad if I could help at least a bit :)

By "easily walk/ride", I am trying to figure out if one can go shopping, do groceries, have a drink without necessarily having to take a taxi.

I don't know about Kraków but in my city in my osiedle (neighbourhood?) there are three different supermarkets easily in a walking distance: Biedronka (the cheapest, I guess), Lidl (a bit more expensive maybe) and Lewiatan (the most expensive of the three), also one smaller shop but more expensive - you can buy groceries, stuff for cleaning, some cosmetics (and sometimes clothes, shoes and other stuff in Biedronka and Lidl) in all of them. There are also small local shops like a bakery, hairdresser, beauty salon, gym, fishmongers, shoe shops, some second-clothes shop, post office, etc., there's also a cheap diner, pizza place and some thai restaurant (or sth of this kind) - everything in walking distance. It's more or less the same for every bigger neighbourhood in my city, I think. For some better quality food, for cafés, for a drink - I would have to go to the city centre though. For clothes and shoe shopping I would also go to some big shopping gallery in the centre.

Btw, as for clothes and shoes - Western brands are usually more expensive but there are also Polish brands which are usually cheaper and perfectly wearable, in my opinion, so no worries ;)

Also, in Polish cities you can usually get everywhere by bus, unless you would like to do some big supermarket shopping and you don't have a car - then a taxi could be useful.

I know it mostly depends on where you live but having an idea of the shop/café/malls density wouldn't hurt :)

Well, I can't say for Kraków but I think it's true for most Polish cities that probably those big shopping malls with Tescos and all kinds of shops, cinemas and restaurants are either in the city centre or close to it. For quality cafés and shopping the city centre is usually the best too.

In Polish shopping mall is usually called "centrum handlowe" or "galeria handlowa", so you can google "centrum handlowe Kraków", for example:

google.pl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=centrum%20handlowe%20krak%C3%B3w&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=50057711,19975213,3751&tbm=lcl&tbs=lf:1,lf_ui:2&rlfi=hd:;si

And thank you for the links, the apartments look quite affordable, that's vey good news!

Remember about the utilities/payments though! I think they often aren't included in the rent so you have to check every offer.
I'll translate one for you as an example:
gumtree.pl/a-mieszkania-i-domy-do-wynajecia/krakow/1150-za-wszystko-kawalerka-w-centrum/1001683486240910494285809

1150 PLN FOR EVERYTHING ^ ^ STUDIO FLAT IN THE CITY CENTRE!

size 25 m2

Murowana street

A flat in a very good localisation, around Nowy Kleparz, near Kamienna street.
Quick ride to the city centre, two bus stops to Galeria Krakowska (shopping mall), bus and tram stops nearby. Good connections for UJ, AGH, UR, PK, UP (universities).

Consists of: one big, spacious room, separate kitchen and bathroom. Fully equipped and furnished.

PAYMENTS: 1000PLN + utilities (water, electricity - around 150PLN)

Telephone number: 517-144-101
Offer number: 123

the Institute for Nuclear Physics

Well, that sounds like... rocket science :D ;))
Btw, the institute is in a part of Kraków that is called Bronowice Wielkie, a former village near Kraków:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronowice_Wielkie
It's in the city district called IV Prądnik Biały:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzielnica_IV_Pr%C4%85dnik_Bia%C5%82y

I see that the institute is on Radzikowskiego street and here you have one flat on this street for example (1450 PLN):
/a-mieszkania-i-domy-do-wynajecia/krakow/radzikowskiego-++-kawalerka-++++-wysoki-std/1001683478640910964863209

High standard flat, new building, address: Radzikowskiego 100. Flat is situated on the fifth floor in a building with elevator. Consists of one room and an open kitchen.

Flat is 36m2.

Fully furnished big room with a sofa (that can be.. um... you know... spread out?), chest of drawers, shelves. A big built-in wardrobe in the hallway. Big balcony. Equipment: washing machine, refrigerator, dishwasher, cooker with an oven.

A flat is situated in a gated housing estate.

PAYMENTS: 1450PLN + 300PLN (rent) + electricity

Telephone number: 517-144-101

A cheaper one in the same street (there's an English translation on the page):
/a-mieszkania-i-domy-do-wynajecia/krakow/okazja-bronowice-wysoki-standard-ciche-strzezone-balkon-mpec/1001683091230910963594509

You can have a look at the flat on Youtube:
youtube.com/watch?v=_JWR2mKpGLM

Estate agent is Kamil Kowalewski and it looks like he knows English.
Phone number: +48 570 347 111

Paulina

18 Jun 2016

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

BTW, Paulina, in that Daily Mail article you cited, are you sure the meeting had segregation or did the women prefer to sit together by custom?

Not sure which article you mean - I didn't quote Daily Mail. You mean that link at townhall.com? I think that in that case it's very possible that the segregation was "natural" - the women simply stood behind the men as they probably usually do at some gatherings. I can imagine they are taught since they're little to "know their place" and it probably comes natural to them, I don't know...

As for that event described at metro.co.uk they could be told were to sit, I think, but in reality I have no idea - I wasn't there :)

to see Britain have the same law as France, forcing women to remove their niqabs. And we certainly can't tell people who they should or shouldn't sit next to.

I think they could feel uncomfortable if they were forced to sit next to men. Although I don't know, I guess we should ask them :)

It's a bit like with those two boys that didn't want to shake hands with their female teacher (in Germany? or Netherlands? I don't remember). Should they be forced to do this, considering they aren't allowed to touch women outside of their family? After all, I guess, in their minds, they were showing their respect towards the teacher in this way. I'd prefer this over being a sex toy in the "game" of taharrush, obviously.

What p1sses me off, though, is that those women are standing at the back. Why not in front of men, huh? Or at least next to them in a separate group. A-holes - those men...

Paulina

18 Jun 2016

Work / A PhD Moving to Kraków, Poland! Salary, housing, spendings, nightlife, English knowledge. [14]

First of all, what is city like? I've heard many great things about its cultural aspects and nightlife but I'd like to hear more from someone actually living there.

I don't live there so unfortunately I probably won't be of much help and to be honest I'm not sure if there are any people living in Kraków on this forum. The foreigners who write here usually live in cities like Warsaw, Wrocław, Poznań from what I've noticed and they usually don't like Kraków (or at least that's my impression) because it's a more conservative city, I guess, so I'm not sure if they're going to give you objective opinions :P ;)

The only disadvantage about living in Kraków that comes to my mind and that was mentioned on this forum is the pollution since the city is placed in a hollow and people there use coal to warm their homes or sth. The smog can be especially bad during winter apparently.

Maybe it would be better not to live in the city center but further away - maybe that would help, I don't know.

Can you easily walk or bike to go anywhere you want?

Not sure what you mean by walking anywhere you want ;) There are sidewalks there, so, yeah :D ;)) If you mean whether everything is in the walking distance it probably depends where you would live. Kraków is a city of 326,85 km² according to Wikipedia. As for biking - you can ride in the street or on biking paths probably like everywhere in Poland but I'm not sure how many biking paths are there.

What's the general atmosphere like?

History, culture, art, atmospheric cafés (sorry, I have a soft spot for cafés lol) - that's what Kraków is mainly for me. But I was there as a tourist years ago, so I can't really say what it's like now. There are lots of students there since it has the oldest university in Poland. British stag party goers can be a nuisance, apparently, but I don't know how much really of a problem they are.

Some general characteristic:
krakow-info/lifestyl.htm

Do people speak a little English?

It's a touristy city with some foreign students too I imagine so I would think people speak some English there. Mainly younger generations probably though and maybe more educated people.

I'm also a fierce hiker and I was wondering if there were any great wild areas out of the city to go on long treks or just enjoy nature.

Considering Kraków is placed here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3%B3w-Cz%C4%99stochowa_Upland

...I'm guessing that there are quite a few and Kraków is not far from the mountains in the South of Poland.

Maybe those links will give you some idea:

tripadvisor.com/Guide-g274772-k652-Krakow_Lesser_Poland_Province_Southern_Poland.html
krakow-info/nationalparks.htm
outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/3129/destination-for-half-day-hike-near-krak%C3%B3w-poland-in-late- autumn-early-winter
mapmyhike.com/pl/krakow-lesser-poland-voivodeship
ojcow.pl/wycieczki/kulig.htm
ojcow.pl/wycieczki/rodzinne/wycieczki_rodzinne.htm
ojcow.pl/wycieczki/wycieczki_piesze.htm

It's a normal salary, for a regular Pole rather good even. According to numbeo.com Average Monthly Disposable Salary (Net After Tax) in Kraków is 3,118.65 pln.

But you're from a Western country and I don't know to what kind of standard of living you're accustomed to. I suspect the Westerners from this forum will tell you that it's not enough, that you will have no life here so better wait for their opinions ;)

(I was thinking about giving private French lessons to make extra money. Is that something people look for?)

I think that if you don't know Polish it could be a problem, but I don't really know. There was one French woman here who, I think, is giving French private lessons in Warsaw but she's lived in Poland for a long time and probably knows Polish.

Is that enough to rent a single bedroom apartment and have a decent life?

It depends what "decent life" means for someone :)

Finally, how much money would I need for groceries, utilities and all these monthly spending?

numbeo/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Poland&city=Krakow+(Cracow)

If you don't need to wear necessarly the brand clothes and shoes you can easily buy cheaper ones, of course.

Single bedroom apartment is "kawalerka" in Polish. So you can google: "kawalerka do wynajęcia Kraków".

Here are some results so you can check the prices of rent (the closer to the city centre - the more expensive, it's cheaper in the suburbs, payments/utilities aren't often included in the price, I think):

gumtree.pl/s-krakow/kawalerka+do+wynajecia/v1l3200208q0p1
morizon.pl/do-wynajecia/mieszkania/kawalerki/krakow/?gclid=CLTkzILvsM0CFecucgodhCkKdA

Btw, in case you decide to take that job in Kraków - I know someone who has a Ph.D. in astronomy with specialization in astrophysics (I checked your profile - is that your field?) and also loves nature, biking and hiking (although he's an older guy). He's an associate professor at Nicolaus Copernicus Astronomical Center in Warsaw but visits Polish mountains in the South too, so if you ever need a soulmate :) or sth maybe I could contact him for you - he's a lovely, kind person and easy to make friends with :)

Paulina

18 Jun 2016

UK, Ireland / A new mayor in London: opinion of Polish people in the UK? [317]

Guys, you can google stuff, you know :P
townhall.com/tipsheet/andrewalker/2016/06/16/women-segregated-at-london-mayors-rally-n2179082

There is no suggestion they were forcably segregated, but the Mayor did not intervene to prevent the women standing at the back.

This photo shows it even better:
breitbart.com/london/2016/06/16/women-sent-back-khan-remain-speech

Looks like it's not the first time for this party:
metro.co.uk/2015/12/01/labour-faced-with-sexism-row-again-after-men-and-women-were-segregated-at-asian-rally-5536791

Paulina

16 Jun 2016

Study / Tuition Hours in Polish Universities [20]

It was actually very well publicised.

Oh, I didn't write that it wasn't well publicised. I don't know that. But was he called "the worst doctor in Britain" by BBC or Daily Mail? :)

Let's google :)

Ah... There it is...:
cavendish-press.co.uk/news/post/58/is-this-the-worst-doctor-in-britain-surgeon-dubbed-teflon-doc-is-struck-off-after-errors-spanning-16-years.aspx
Oops... wait... Gavin Denton... This doesn't sound Polish, right?

OK, let's try again - Daily Mail this time:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720973/UK-s-worst-doctors-named-shamed-let-Just-slap-wrist-fatal-mistakes-criminal-behaviour.html

Is he there? I don't see any Polish surname... Do you?

I do.

Oh, I didn't write I don't care about what he did. I wrote that I don't care that probably some British tabloid called him "the worst doctor in Britain".

Plenty of people close to me could easily have become victims of this 'Polish Doctor'.

Yes, just like plenty of my compatriots could easily have become victims of this "British Doctor" - Gavin Denton.

So why do thousands pay for courses that "noone (sic) takes seriously".

Because Poles are crazy about education and they want to have at least "zaoczne" if they didn't manage to get into "dzienne". Some people also have no choice because they have to work and that's the only way for them.

It is very much about the qulity of Polish Universities compared to British ones

Really? And I thought Atch asked only about numbers of hours?
Atch, was I wrong? Was your question a veiled way to discuss how crappy Polish universities are as compared to British ones? :)

Looks like you have a bit of a chip on your bulky shoulder.

No, I don't, jon357. But I do wonder about your attitude and what your problem is when I read your comments which are always the same. No matter what is discussed - sth Polish is always worse than sth British. Even if other foreign, even British posters tell you it isn't always so, you just keep going. I've just seen it too many times in your case. When sth bad is done by the British you're always justifying it, etc. Roz is opposite of you in this matter, I've seen her being able to be more objective and less chauvinistic than many people on here and probably that's why she agreed with me on this thread.

Some of them are certainly not worthy of that name.

Just like in any country. But you made it look like all are.

A much worse situation here in Poland, where the budget for lecturers and basically to provide the whole learning experience is much lower...

Sweet Jesus, jon357... I think it was written in one of the threads that Polish national budget is half of the NHS budget alone! Your country is filthy rich! lol Yes, everything is better in your country and probably many things are better in Poland than in many poorer countries with even more difficult history but I don't have the need to write about it for an umpteenth time in every possible thread somehow connected to the subject matter or even not connected. It's like with delph and others writing about how Polish men are ugly at almost any given opportunity as if they were themselves Apollo incarnations who descended to this Earth lol One wonders what your problem is, you know? Why do you have to do that every time? Do you have nothing else to say on this forum? It's just boring already. It's like you guys have some kind of obsessions - like Polonius3 and his praise of Jews - in theory there's nothing wrong with it but sometimes you just want him to stop already :D

Sorry, but I just had to say it at last...

Paulina

16 Jun 2016

Study / Tuition Hours in Polish Universities [20]

Jon357, I don't care if one doctor was described as such probably by some British tabloid. There are bad doctors everywhere. I would even understand you or delph or Harry going on and on and on and on about poor quality of Polish univeristies with "especially zaoczne" added every time (noone in Poland treats studia zaoczne seriously anyway) in a thread in which someone from India or wherever would be expressing his will to study in Poland and asking about studying in Poland.

But this thread is not about that (unless I'm too naïve to read between the lines and Atch actually made this thread to compare British and Polish "penis sizes"? lol)

Get over your British self already *sigh*

Polish 'universities'

And what's with the quotation marks? Polish universities aren't even worthy to be called "universities" according to you?

Paulina

16 Jun 2016

Study / Tuition Hours in Polish Universities [20]

the amount

What do you mean by "amount"? Those hours spent in lectures that Atch asked about? Judging by what she wrote it's more hours per week in Polish universities (including at the one I've graduated from) than in British universities.

I've found some classes schedules on the internet.
Mechanics faculty at Politechnika Krakowska (40 hours per week seems to be the norm):
mech.pk.edu.pl/~podzial/stacjonarne/html/index.html
mech.pk.edu.pl/~podzial/stacjonarne/html/plany/o7.html

Or English Philology at Jagiellonian University:
dropbox.com/s/4p883krev86do4x/SM_1.doc?dl=0

Unless I misunderstood sth and those 13 hours per week aren't for normal full-time day-time studies?

level of tuition in Polish Universities is poor.

Compared to what? The level can't really be so terrible if Polish doctors are being hired in British hospitals and Polish computer scientists are sought after in Germany and Polish students win engineering competitions in the US, etc. etc.

And it's not even about that. Atch didn't ask about the standards, level, quality of studies at Polish univeristies. She asked about the number of hours.

But you just have to demonstrate your British ego and anti-Polish prejudice at any opportunity :) Even among Harry and delph you stick out like a sore thumb with your irritating attitude.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading your comment: "Oh, jon, give it a rest already. We all know after all those years on PF that the UK is the best country on the planet and British people are the best people on the planet who can do no wrong and nothing, absolutely nothing and noone in Poland compares to anything and anyone in the holy land of UK - you don't have to prove it every time." :))

Paulina

16 Jun 2016

Study / Tuition Hours in Polish Universities [20]

How does Poland compare I wonder.

Why?

In Poland, the large number of part-time students muddy the water and there are obvious issues about standards

"'Cause nothing compares...
Nothing compares to youuuuu..."

lol

I really liked Sinead O'Connor when I was a teenager (and some Irish bands) :))

Paulina

8 Jun 2016

History / Old Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Inheritance, Legitimacy, and Nobility. [8]

were they still a member of the Rod/Herb/Clan?

I somehow doubt it, to be honest... My mum said that according to a family legend her family had an ancestor from nobility who got disowned by his family for marrying a peasant. I think my mum mentioned that her family was bound by serfdom so I doubt that they were using any coat of arms ;) or that they had any dealings with a family so "noble" that they disowned their own son (if that's even true, of course).

Paulina

29 May 2016

Travel / Visit Krakow - places to go out at night? [6]

Dave, I don't know Kraków from this side and I haven't been there for years, but I see noone else will help you, so... I googled a bit and those are the places I've seen Poles recommending for people 30+:

Klub 30 (address: T. Kościuszki 3):
klub30.pl
klub30.pl/pl/galeria/klub30

Taawa Music Club (address: Estery 18):
taawa.pl
taawa.pl/galeria

Chicago Jazz (address: Sławkowska 11):
chicago-jazz.pl
chicago-jazz.pl/galeria.html

Alchemia (address: Estery 5)
en.alchemia.com.pl

Drukarnia Jazz Club (address: Nadwiślańska 1):
drukarniaclub.pl/english.htm

Piękny Pies (address: Bożego Ciała 9):
pl-pl.facebook.com/Klub-Pi%C4%99kny-Pies-186177181423533

Ulica Krokodyli (address: Szeroka 30) - fun fact: the name of the club is the title of a short story by a Polish writer Bruno Schulz "Street of Crocodiles" and a short animated film inspired by it:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_of_Crocodiles
impreza.krakow.pl/club-251-ulica_krokodyli.php

Singer (the corner of Estery street and Izaaka street), apparently a cult place. Fun fact: the tables are made out of old Singer sewing machines (my grandma has one and she's still using it for sewing - it works! lol):

Społem Pub (address: św. Tomasza 4) - fun fact: "Społem" is the name of an old Polish chain store and the pub's interior design has a communist feel to it, with cars from those times incorporated into the interior, including a milicja car (cars used by Polish police during communist times). It's been selling some Polish and Czech craft beers since not long ago:

pubspolem.pl

Stajnia Pub (address: Józefa 12) - "stajnia" means "stable" in Polish - the pub was set up in an old stable building:

zomato.com/pl/krak%C3%B3w/stajnia-pub-kazimierz

Magiel (address: Meiselsa 9):
magielnakazimierzu.pl/en/index.html

Klub Kulturalny (address: Szewska 25):
local-life.com/krakow/pubs/217-Klub_Kulturalny

Klub Kabaret (address: Krakowska 5):
facebook.com/klubkabaret

Sorry for all the additional "unnecessary information" but I like such "fun facts" myself and, who knows, maybe you'll be able to impress some woman with your knowledge ;) (I can't guarantee that you'll end up in bed with her though lol).

Other places that were mentioned: Feniks, Warszawianka, Dolce Vita, Prozak, Ministerstwo, Boom Bar Rush, Stalowe Magnolie, Cień, Tajemniczy ogród, La Scandale (but I got this info from an old thread, so I don't know which are still open).

There are probably more places but I don't have time to search for more. Once you'll get to one of those clubs or pubs you may ask other visitors what places they like and there are generally a lot of clubs, pubs, cafes, etc. in the Kazimierz district of Kraków:

inyourpocket.com/krakow/Kazimierz_70207f

Have fun and be respectful to the women in Kraków or you may end up with your face covered with detergent, apparently :P

Paulina

13 Jan 2016

Genealogy / Return of the Polish Jadah / Jadach surname [28]

just a shame that our government in exile was betrayed by its so called western allies.

Dolnoslask, don't turn a genealogy research thread into another sh1t fight between Polish nationalists and Harry and his gang. Make a thread about it, if you wish.

Paulina

13 Jan 2016

Genealogy / Return of the Polish Jadah / Jadach surname [28]

Oh, don't get so pompous, Ironside :) Of course, those weren't any loose "gangs" but a well-oiled organisation cooperating with the Polish government in exile and the Home Army, but I'm sure Viking33 didn't mean anything bad :)

Paulina

13 Jan 2016

Genealogy / Return of the Polish Jadah / Jadach surname [28]

some small youthful resistance gangs

lol :)
You know, the Zośka battalion is pretty famous in Poland. And Szare Szeregi (the Gray Ranks) in general. There's even a non-fiction novel about them that every kid was supposed to read during my school days (I've read it too, of course):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamienie_na_szaniec

Stefan Jadach listed in some military exercise - and with the year 1887 in brackets

He's on some list on the site of the Polish Army Museum in Warsaw:

muzeumwp.pl/oficerowie/?letter=J&page=3

Jadach Stefan (1st of Semptember 1887) - infantry lieutenant.

Also:
geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?rid=3266&from_date=1909&to_date=1910&search_lastname=&search_lastname2=&rpp2=50&rpp1=50&bdm=50&w=13sk&op=gt&exac=1

On this site it says that Stefan Jadach died in 1910 in Chełmce. It's in the book of deaths for the świętokrzyskie voivodeship: "Chełmce - (Z) 1770-1926".

Paulina

13 Jan 2016

Polonia / Should Poles help Germans organize protests demanding free media ? [136]

No different than most nightclubs/danceclubs in Poland every weekend.

Are you f*cking kidding me?!!!
Are you saying that one woman (and even a 15 year old girl!) dancing in a nightclub/danceclub in Poland is surrounded by a group of 30 drunken men, immobilized and touched everywhere including on her crotch, terrified so much that she thinks she's going to be raped in the middle of the dancefloor and noone will even notice that or be able to help or that she's even going to die there? And then her cellphone and money are being stolen? And this, according to you, happens every weekend in nightclubs/danceclubs to hundreds of women in Poland?

Are you sick in the head?

I'm not making light of anything.

Of course you are. You completely downplayed it by comparing it to what could be happening in some danceclubs. What happened in Cologne resembles more what was happening in Tahrir Square in Egypt rather than in Polish nightclubs/danceclubs.

But I do think it's pretty f*ckin stupid that every refugee gets tarred with the same brush coz of the actions of some boozed-up idiots.

Then that's what you should write and not downplay sexual attacks on women that are regarded by Cologne Mayor as "monstrous".

You know, that's the problem I have with people like you. Such retarded comments. The same was with jon357 and his comment about Bavarian girls. In order to defend innocent refugees you're turning into misogynists or you're downplaying stuff or completely turning a blind eye. This is doing more damage than good and you're doing a disservice to refugees and immigrants in this way. Just like it was done in Rotherham and by German police and media after New Year's Eve attacks. You and the police and the media are viewed then as unreliable and not credible and this pushes people into the arms of far right groups and nationalist media.

If I as a woman got pi$$ed by one or two comments on an internet forum then imagine how German women must be feeling now.

And as for media and to back up what I just wrote - in the latest "Drugie śniadanie mistrzów" ("The Second Breakfast of Masters") that I've watched on TVN24 the host Marcin Meller said that his female acquaintance from Sweden entered some far right Swedish sites for the first time in her life... in order to get to know what happened in Sweden. The discussion starts at 33:55:

tvn24.pl/drugie-sniadanie-mistrzow,40,m/drugie-sniadanie-mistrzow,609392.html

Also, Ilona £epkowska, a Polish screenwriter and writer, is saying there that she's not surprised by those attacks based on her and her daughters' experiences in Egypt.

And then the German media and the police were forced into line

I'm not sure if they had to be forced into line, to be honest, judging by what I've read from one guy I've been discussing for years on our Polish-Russian blog. Just to give you an idea who he is - he's a Polish liberal/leftist atheist. He's married to a German woman, he's a graphic designer and he's been living in Berlin for years now. He's very intelligent, well-travelled and well read. He wrote that Germans practice a kind of self-censorship. Not only politicians and the media but also many Germans.

But not everything is so hopeless with the German media, it seems. Last year I've watched this ZDF documentary, for example, "One Country - Two Worlds?":

youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM

ZDF is a public German TV station.
I would recommend watching this documentary to all those who seem to be wearing rose-tinted glasses and think there are no problems at all... And to everyone really, it's pretty interesting.

I'd just like to point out that sweeping problems under a carpet doesn't make those problems go away - those problems just grow bigger and bigger until you can't walk on the carpet anymore.

Here's another German documentary or maybe TV report:

youtube.com/watch?v=hmHLpp5uZ_k

It's about a German town (?) of 1800 inhabitants with 3500 refugees placed there. Inhabitants feel intimidated by groups of young men walking around. One woman says her daughter is afraid to walk the dog alone, she wants an adult to accompany her. Students have problems on the buses because a refugee center is near a school. But on a meeting of inhabitants of the town with the authorities one woman says that not only students have problems. She also has problems, she is being accosted and she's saying she doesn't want to be forced to fend off large groups of men.

Paulina

17 Dec 2015

News / Reactions of Poles to Negative Publicity from the Foreign Press [56]

for their adverse criticism of current events in Poland.

Correction - PiS voters are angry :)

And maybe not even all of them.

My mum always complained that her workplace is full of PiS voters. To put it into context - we live in Kielce - one of electoral bases of PiS. Lately, though, and I could barely believe this, I was so shocked :) - the same people at her workplace who were rejoicing because of PiS winning the elections are... angry at PiS for what they're doing with the Constitutional Tribunal! They're also worried that because of that spermarket tax the prices will go up.

So there you go - miracles happen lol PiS managed to pi$$ off their own voters lol My mum had a field day and was saying to them - "You wanted 'order' by PiS and you have 'order'" ;)

Schulz (and not only him) can be irritating, but I'm glad that the media abroad are writing and telling about this. It's important that they do.

"Let so-and-so solve their own problems by themselves without a bunch of oursiders butting in"??

Yes, sir, general Jaruzelski! :) ;) Putin would love you, Lyzko :P ;)

Somehow, Duda appears to be a fairly centrist sort of fellow who most probably wouldn't allow such extreme violation of civil rights.

LOL
He will do whatever Kaczyński will tell him to do. It is madness what's going on right now. I didn't imagine I would live to such times.

It's just getting worse and worse. After paralysing the Constitutional Tribunal (among other things, according to the new legislation prepared by PiS the CT is supposed to fullfill the will of the parliamentary majority and not guard the constitution in case the parliamentary majority would try to do something unconstitutional - can you even believe this? :)) they will take over the public media.

Yes. Duda is the right winger and the one who is doing great harm. By herself Szydlo is moderate

They are both puppets of Kaczyński. Noone has any doubts about this anymore. Kaczyński is the puppeteer. I think it's really time for him to go already. he's the greatest hatemonger in all of this. According to my dad he lost it. Too much power got to his head. I agree.

Paulina

18 Nov 2015

News / Shortage of doctors, nurses and caregivers in Poland [5]

Delph, I actually didn't mean you ;)

Paulina

18 Nov 2015

News / Shortage of doctors, nurses and caregivers in Poland [5]

One PF member doubted the info I provided about a shortage of doctors in Poland in one of the threads, he wrote that all my posts "are from within Poland and lack objectivity" lol I've noticed many times on PF that when a Pole is providing some info or some Polish statistics are provided or whatever they are often deemed to be untrustworthy. Well then, if a Pole is not worthy enough to be trusted and Polish media are not worthy enough to be believed then here I have for you a multitude of links in English, most of them from British media with one exception - one link is from Deutsche Welle. Those articles are from 2005 to 2015 and are covering the problem from all angles, including the British one.

I've also seen news about it on BBC channel on TV not that long ago - they were showing a chart comparing doctor to patient ratio in a few countries, including Poland (I imagine those were the figures from the OECD raport for 2014).

For those who are too lazy to read I've also included some positive quotes about Polish doctors from those articles because I've noticed there's a conviction among Westerners on this forum that Polish doctors are inferior to the British ones (just like everyone and everything else is, apparently, inferior in Poland to everyone and everything in the UK and the rest of the West).

I myself more or less two years ago waited around 5 months for an endocrinologist visit. When I broke my finger 3 years ago I went to a hospital and there was one doctor for the whole hospital treating fractures, he didn't even have a nurse to help him or anyone else and despite the fact that he was treating people in an express tempo like a worker on some factory line I was waiting for hours for my turn (it was a Friday evening somewhere around the beginning of summer holiday). Also, my aunt who is a nurse worked for some time in Italy as a caregiver. She now works as a nurse at an orthopaedic ward in Poland but she's in her fifties, I think, and already had serious back problems from lifting heavy patients...

A video about the problem on Deutsche Welle:
dw.com/en/poland-a-shortage-of-doctors-costs-lives/av-16800895

"The country does not have enough doctors, nurses or other caregivers."

Article from 2005 (there wasn't a shortage yet, but they were fearing it would come in the future - and it came):
theguardian.com/money/2005/may/15/workandcareers.europeanunion

"Pawel Trzcinski, of the Polish Health Ministry, said: 'It is good doctors with good English that are leaving. Only the best get through the examination process. The ones that leave are highly skilled, highly talented and dynamic. They are the cream.'"

'I worked for free as a senior house officer at the Interior Ministry hospital in Krakow because I wanted the experience. They could not afford to pay me. Most Polish doctors do a few jobs to get by, but many can't even find work in a decent hospital, where you need the right connections to get anywhere.'

'I feel like a citizen of Europe. But the loss of all these doctors can only damage the Polish health service. Who will treat Poles in 10 years' time? Russians and Ukrainians. Everyone is moving west now.'

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/4423344.stm

"The doctors are well trained, motivated and dedicated," he said.
"They have made a valuable contribution to a number of departments, particularly in critical care, theatres and renal services"

Polish ambassador in Britain about the shortage:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2847086/Poland-wants-doctors-Ambassador-says-country-wants-lure-workers-NHS.html

'We have lost - from what I know - 2,300 doctors in Britain. Of course they were educated in Poland for free so we want them, it is obvious."

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/7187094.stm

"Doctors in former Eastern Bloc countries, such as Poland, can expect to earn less than the average wage, which is around £300 a month. Dr Robinski can earn the same amount in one shift in the UK."

Looks like there's a problem in the UK too:
telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11271216/UK-has-fewer-doctors-than-almost-every-EU-country.html

"New OECD figures show only Romania, Poland, Slovenia and Ireland have fewer doctors per head than the UK"

theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/28/-sp-nhs-hires-3000-foreign-doctors-staff-shortage
" It is actively recruiting in Poland for "qualified paramedics where their qualifications, skills and experience are very similar to our own and meet our own high standards for staff," said a spokesman."

Paulina

18 Nov 2015

News / Turkish invasion on Polish TV - Poland's opinion on Turkey [30]

The Magnificent Century

wyborcza.pl/1,90535,18902934,wspaniale-stulecie-turecka-gra-o-tron.html

The first Turkish TV serie that was aired on Polish state TV was probably an element of the cultural exchange that was happening to celebrate the 600th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between Turkey and Poland, I think.

This TV serie is called "Wspaniałe stulecie" in Polish (in English it's "The Magnificent Century" and "Muhteşem Yüzyıl" in Turkish). It was apparently a success world-wide, but I think that it's popularity in Poland also stems from the fact that those are historical TV series and since Poland was warring with the Ottoman Empire and there were some Turkish influences in the past and stuff - Poles simply found it interesting. I myself have watched quite a few episodes for this very reason (and because I got a bit addicted to all those harem intrigues at first lol).

Btw, there are differences between "The Magnificent Century" and Western historical or fantasy TV series like "The Tudors", "The Borgias" or "Game of Thrones" - one of the most srtiking ones that I've noticed is that there's no sex shown in the Turkish one, only kisses, while in the Western series I've mentioned there has to be a sex scene or a naked woman every three episodes at least lol That's why I was surprised when I found out that "The Magnificent Century" had problems... in Turkey. Erdogan accused the producers of blasphemy and depravation lol There were also 70 000 complaints sent from viewers but they were in minority since the majority of Turks fell in love with "The Magnificent Century".

"The Magnificent Century" is aired from Monday to Friday at 15:50 on TVP1, at 18:05 at TVP Historia and at 20:15 on TVP Seriale.
I would say it gets boring in the long run because it has the length of a soap opera, so I wouldn't be able to watch every single episode but it's watchable when you tune in now and then, for example. It's interesting to see how the Ottoman Empire was run, the cultural stuff, customs and traditions, the clothes people were wearing at that time and the way the historical events are viewed.

The success of "The Magnificent Century" was such that the Polish TV introduced also other Turkish TV series to Polish viewers.
Another Turkish historical TV serie that was aired on Polish state TV (TVP 2 this time) was "Imperium miłości" (English: "Kurt Seyit and Şura", Turkish: "Kurt Seyit ve Şura ") - the last episode was shown not that long ago.

It was about a love of a soldier with Turkish roots and a Russian woman and about Tatar families in Crimea (at least that was my impression - I've seen only two or three episodes when I was sick) with the Russian revolution and the World War I in the backround.

Btw, most of the women in both TV series are pretty, some really stunning and there are some really handsome (and manly in a good way :P) men too, like Burak Özçivit playing Malkocoglu Bali Bey in "The Magnificent Century":

pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/564853446759952386/1gncQWBw.jpeg
Also, Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ from "Kurt Seyit and Şura" reminded me of Bohun played by Aleksandr Domogarov in "Ogniem i mieczem", with his fiery character and big blue eyes :):

s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/71/39/e9/7139e9730fb369305dec6c5f18179d20.jpg
Just saying :D :P

There are also a few soap operas in modern setting:
"Tysiąc i jedna noc" ("One Thousand and One Nights", "Binbir Gece") - a modern fairy tale from Istanbul on TVP1.

"To moje życie" ("It's my Life", I don't know the Turkish title) - a modern story of Cinderella on TV Puls.

"Sezon na miłość" ("A season for Love"?, and, again, I don't know the Turkish title) on TV Puls.
I don't watch soap operas so I can't say anything about those.

Why is it newsworthy? Well, because these are the first TV series and soap operas from a Muslim country on Polish TV and quite a few of them too. So it's definitely something new.

Btw, it seems Polish TV producers were so impressed with the success of "The Magnificent Century" that they decided to air another historical TV serie from an "exotic" country - this time from South Korea. It's "Cesarzowa Ki" ("Empress Ki", "Gi Hwanghu") at 17:00 on TVP2. Again, it's something new because there simply aren't any TV series on Polish TV other than Polish, European and North American ones (plus some soap operas from South America), as far as I know.

(Question nr 1: Shouldn't there be a section of the forum like "Culture" or sth? I wasn't sure where to put this thread...

Question nr 2: Is it "TV serie" or "TV series" for a single title? I always have problems with this :/)

Paulina

17 Nov 2015

Study / For a student in Poland - how do they do internship? [26]

That's very wise, since you are certainly not one, and you are wrong here..

Prove me wrong then :)

As I say, I don't bother to read your ranting posts.

Oh and what about those articles I provided? You didn't bother to read them too? :)

In Poland there is an oversupply of doctors with people who are qualified as doctors doing work that it is not necessary for a doctor to do.

Wow, it's like you're in a total denial... Damn... One rarely sees sth like that even on the internet... o_O
Jon357, could you somehow prove that there's an oversupply and not a shortage of doctors in Poland? If me, "Gazeta Wyborcza", other newspapers and Polish TV are wrong here then surely you're able able to provide some links, articles and statistics of your own? :)

I'm waiting... :)

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Study / For a student in Poland - how do they do internship? [26]

There you go again, lastworditis and in danger of going off topic.

Jon357, you started the off-topic by claiming that there is an oversupply of doctors in Poland. I pointed out that it isn't the case and you, instead of behaving like an adult and admitting that you were wrong or at least not digging yourself any deeper you decided to continue despite the facts.

There's a few big problems with the bits of your post that I'd be bothered to read.

I'm bothered with your general attitude when you're proven that you're wrong about sth. It's not the end of the world and you behave like it is. I don't understand it. Everyone can be wrong from time to time about sth.

You ignore the fact that all your posts are from within Poland and lack objectivity - many tasks in Poland that are often done by doctors simply do not need to be. X-ray testing, Chiropody, taking blood pressure, parentology, midwifery.

I don't ignore anything, I don't pretend to be an expert on this topic and I doubt you are one. I'm quoting to you articles from Polish press, do you understand?

And Polish press, among all kinds of experts, doctors, officials and whomever, is quoting OECD raport for 2014 according to which the ratio of doctors to inhabitants of the country is the worst in the EU. In the numerous articles you can find on the Polish internet there are all kinds of analysis explaining why this is the case.

I'm asking you again - have you read any of those articles?

And I'd prefer it if you don't call me a 'holocaust denier'

That's OK, because I didn't and I don't.

Hard to know how any of your posts in this thread help the OP...

https://polishforums.com/study/poland-student-internship-65937/#msg1510369
More than yours.

There certainly isn't a shortage of trained nurses here.

I've read in one of the articles that there are less and less people willing to become nurses and nurses who are already working are getting older...

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Study / For a student in Poland - how do they do internship? [26]

Still too many doctors in Poland though, doing the jobs of other healthcare professionals, whatever out 'cut n paste' TL:DR poster Paulina thinks.

Ah, yes, Paulina, the 'cut n paste' poster "polluting" PF with facts :) I honestly feel here sometimes like in some Twilight Zone discussing with children.

Jon357, I see you're like a really hopeless case of a Holocaust denier - no matter how many facts, proof, testimonies, documents one throws at you you still will be claiming that there was no Holocaust, "whatever Jews think" lol

So, tell me, jon357, is Polish TV, "Gazeta Wyborcza" and other Polish newspapers and portals lying? There is no shortage of doctors, especially specialists, in Poland? No shortage of nurses? If yes, then why everyone's lying that there is? Who's behind this conspiracy? Zionists? Masons? Cyclists? Aliens? :)

You have any links, articles, statistics to prove that they are all lying?
Or maybe Polish TV and the most renowned newspaper in Poland aren't lying, maybe they just "think" that there's a shortage of doctors in Poland? All of the media in Poland are wrong and you are right? If yes, then please provide proof for your claim - links, articles, statistics.

Btw, have you read any of the articles I provided? Or maybe you don't know Polish well enough?

To be clear, I'm writing all the time about a shortage of doctors in Poland. It means that there aren't enough doctors in Poland. In case there's some misunderstanding.

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Study / For a student in Poland - how do they do internship? [26]

(please don't pollute the forum with your google search ->copy->paste link skills, thank you.)

Posting links to news articles and replying to someone's request for info is illegal on this forum nowadays? What on Earth?

The last time I went I spent five hours in a clinic which was staffed by doctors who were all over sixty years of age, some apparently much older.

Well, as you can imagine, it makes no impression on someone who was born in Poland - the last time I went to see an endocrinologist (I think it was 2 years ago) I was waiting for my visit for around 5 months :)

The Polish health service is a complete mess, and very patchy in the delivery of care. There are undoubtedly centres of excellence, but there are also places where you wonder whether the communists are still running the show.

It is a mess and people are fed up with this, understandably. Poles say that one has to have a "horse's health" in order to be sick in this country lol :/

Nevertheless, as far as internships are concerned, there is still an high number of doctors coming out of medical school (and a lot of doctors relative to the population as a whole) whatever Paulina and Ktos may think.

So yes, there are too many, and lots coming out of medical school which puts pressure on the limited number of internships.

No, there are too few people graduating as doctors from medical schools and there's a shortage of doctors in Poland. This is not what I "think", it's not my personal "opinion" - those are facts I got to know from TV, news articles. Just make the effort and read the articles I provided. You can google for more articles, Polish internet is full of it - here you have one of them:

polskieradio.pl/42/273/Artykul/1440611,W-ogonie-Europy-Dlaczego-ksztalcimy-tak-malo-lekarzy

The title: "In the tail of Europe. Why do we educate so few doctors?"

According to the chairman of NRL, Maciej Hamankiewicz, at least 5 000 students should be admitted every year for day studies to satisfy the demand. But only over 3000 are being admitted and then a bunch of them leave for the West anyway.

To put things into perspective - in 1987 around 6300 people were studying medicine in Poland.
There's a shortage of specialists above all. It's not easy to make a specialization in Poland, apparently, there's a problem with residencies, etc. but not because of oversupply of doctors - I'm not going to write all about this here, there are plenty of articles on the Polish internet and even comments by young doctors or graduates under the articles about the reasons.

Btw, there's also a shortage of nurses.

There are also quality issues - there are plenty of Polish doctors of questionable quality and plenty of patients having horrific experiences.

I suspect you will naturally get quality issues if there aren't enough doctors (it means not enough competition, I can imagine) and hospitals etc. have to be satisfied with what they got or what's left in Poland.

Ahmed Hasan, in case you aren't a troll - it doesn't look like anyone here can help you, so try to google info, ask around at your uni, read the links in English I provided, e-mail some university in Poland with your questions, there are also internet forums where people interested in studying medicine in Poland are exchanging information.

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Off-Topic / Some November afternoon in Warsaw... Poland Solidarity with France [44]

Absolutely, effective media campaigns can have people rioting in the streets over pretty much anything they want.

Yes, WB, effective media campaigns made me have human feelings about the death, pain and fear of other human beings :) I wouldn't have them otherwise. You're spot on :P

truth is that religious extremism has always and still exits in most religions. Some more than others.

The truth is that political extremism has always and still exits in most political ideologies/systems. Some more than others ;)

Not really those were resource wars, like most wars are.

Ah, wait a minute, so are you saying that ideological wars weren't really about ideologies, but about resources? At the same time, in your mind, religious wars weren't really about power, land, recources, but about... religion, yes? :))

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Off-Topic / Some November afternoon in Warsaw... Poland Solidarity with France [44]

Well, Communism is a religion too, is it not?

Religions, ideologies, fanaticism of all kinds, greed, hunger for power, etc. - it's human nature causing all kind of carnage in the world.

It's a bit OT, but I was shocked recently to discover that even Buddhists have been taking part in violence towards Muslims.

I wasn't. That's a point I was trying to make for years on this forum - people are pretty much the same everywhere and with the right circumstances they turn into animals/monsters/you name it.

In a sense, I'm glad that Charlie Hebdo didn't do anything other than remain their usual mocking self.

Well, I guess I just hope other French people aren't as asswholeish as that guy is o_O

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Off-Topic / Some November afternoon in Warsaw... Poland Solidarity with France [44]

In a sense, they've got a point - religion is causing all this carnage in the first place, so more religion is the least of what they want.

Wait, say that again...? Islam is causing this and not psychopaths using religion to their own twisted, psychotic purposes? It's a bit as if I were saying that atheism was causing all the carnage done by bolsheviks, stalinists, maoists, etc. Hmm, I wonder what InPolska has to say about this as a Frenchwoman...

And for religious people it's a way they show they care, their solidarity, etc. - it's not like they're somehow introducing "more religion" into that one man's life, ffs. It's just a simple gesture from the bottom of their hearts.

Bear in mind though that Charlie Hebdo is very left wing and regards religion as being nonsense.

Of course, I know that, but don't you think that displaying such attitude at such moment is a bit inconsiderate? What if there were religious people among those that were killed? Does he have the right to speak on behalf of them and their families? I wonder - do all the French people share his sentiment?

Paulina

16 Nov 2015

Off-Topic / Some November afternoon in Warsaw... Poland Solidarity with France [44]

Fortunately, real life Poles are most often very different from a lot of those met on the net, including PF ;).

One does not need to have a personal relationship with France to be shocked and horrified by what happened, I assure you...
Me and other Poles I know stayed up late watching the news on Friday night... I still have tears in my eyes from time to time when I hear the accounts of those who survived that carnage. I was touched when French fans were singing La Marseillaise when they were being evacuated out of the stadium and I'm not even French...

What has sad today, is how few people on this forum have taken a moment to add some words of empathy to this thread.

Well, I can't speak for others, but I haven't been reading or writing on this forum lately and, to be honest, I came here today only to express my condolences since I remembered that there were some people from France on PF... I spent greater part of the weekend glued to the TV watching the news...

Our thoughts and prayers are with the French people. Stay strong!

Warsaw

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Btw, I'm sorry, but in my personal opinion this guy's reaction is... I don't know how to put it even...:
nypost.com/2015/11/14/charlie-hebdo-cartoonist-doesnt-want-you-to-pray-for-paris/
;/

Who is he to say something like that on behalf of all the Parisians or French people in general? Or maybe his compatriots share his sentiment? It made me feel as if the prayers of religious people praying for people of Paris and France in this difficult time are somehow unworthy and unwanted by them ;/ Are they really?

Paulina

1 Nov 2015

Study / For a student in Poland - how do they do internship? [26]

habibi!

lol

Poland has an oversupply of doctors

Actually, it's the opposite - we have a shortage of doctors in Poland. I don't know where did you get such a fantastic idea that there's an oversupply of them in Poland o_O

Both articles are from 2015:

(please don't pollute the forum with your google search ->copy->paste link skills, thank you.)

wyborcza.biz/biznes/1,100896,17773358,Lekarzy_jak_na_lekarstwo__Pracuja_niemal_najdluzej.html
forsal.pl/artykuly/872946,w-polsce-brakuje-lekarzy-jestesmy-w-ogonie-europy.html

So if i wanna get just internship?

I don't know anything on this topic and I don't have time right now to look for info - I googled a bit and that's what I found:

oil.org.pl/xml/nil/tematy/komisje/0105/cudzoz/archiwum/info1_en
pum.edu.pl/__data/assets/file/0015/70251/Non-EU-Postgraduate-internship.pdf

my classmates told me that doing internship in Poland is a good choice

Why don't you ask them then? Maybe they know something.