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Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

So the priest should pay his fine without ever claiming that he doesn't earn enough to pay it, stupid!

Those fines are a new thingee in the Polish law I believe. I'm not sure what is all about - a whim of a judge? I'm saying that the law needs to be consistent and just and is not so in Poland and that is even stupider.

The priest punishment was him being in court at all, money was secondary issue unless someone got greedy.
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The court didn't ask the priest how much he earned, it was the priest who said he didn't earn enough. Capisci or non capisci inglese, Iron Boy !?

Like chicken S....T don't get smart with me. You said that -

had it been not brought to the court's attention that the priest recently bought a new car worth 120,000 zloty, so he could easily afford to pay the fine.

So the final verdict had been based on his assumed 'earn- ability', his perceived wealth.
If that was the case than the judge must have had a free hand to levy as heavy fine as he seemed fit. That is inconsistent with the philosophy of the Polish law where everything used to be strictly regulated. I suppose corrupt soviet judges don't even know what's that.

You haven't answered me. Did you check credibility of the article and what age is that priest or anything more than that manipulative info.
Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

Before I get "dogs abuse" by other members let me say

Why would you get any abuse. You have your opinion and you don't hide your bias what is to abuse? Kudos to you. You at last have your reasons.

What I take an exception to are people calling themselves Catholics or those without religion that give their two cents worth of wisdom pall mall, flaunting it with an abandon. I hate hypocrites and goodies two shoes with passion.
Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

the angry God".

Some called it an awareness that there are consequences of your action and a responsible person is not just a rhetorical figure of speech.
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That, in my view, sums up the difference between Polish Catholicism and Pope Francis in a very apt way.

In my not. The mains reasons is that he is from Latin America and have no clue about Europe. the Church problems in Europe - what problems?

Also he seems to think that empty gestures as not wearing a proper Pope's shoes or what not would work on Europeans in the same way as something like that would work on Bolivian peasants.

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One recent example of the RCC clergy doubtful "practices" is a story told by the Rzeczpospolita daily.

Really? There is plenty of made up real stories in what supposed to pass for a newspapers nowadays. How sure you're that is a truth story?

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taking into account the priest's monthy income of about 2,500 zloty (whether after or before taxation was not disclosed, however) the fine was too high and should be annuled.

Sure thing it was too high, Given a fact that it wasn't any harm done, that lesson wasn't in money but in the fact that he was finned.

I wonder if there is more to the story because its hard for me to believe that in todays Poland any priests which is not over 60 would do that. How old was that child. Nowadays is hard to say - sometimes 14 years old is a young adult or 17 years is a child/ Its all depends on circumstances and on a bias of those talking.

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I'm not sure if the court would eventually consent to this 'poor priest' argument, had it been not brought to the court's attention that the priest recently bought a new car worth 120,000 zloty, so he could easily afford to pay the fine

How do you know that? What more his money is none of your business nor is court's. Should you be paying for a speeding ticked depending on your income? Maybe, but so far the law in Poland doesn't reflect such a philosophy.

Maybe he has been saving to buy that car for years, maybe he got those money from his parents or maybe he inherited it.
That has nothing to do with the case.
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The conclusions that come out of this story may be the following:

1.Generalisation is a ***** and seldom reflect the truth of the matter.
2. Ziemko is one of those with anti-religion or RCC bias.
3. Question arises how much of what he says is just a pure lie.
Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

appear very conservative and traditional in their views, more like the Catholics pre the Vatican II reforms of the 1960s.

That is a good thing, eh?
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Their form of Catholicism emphasises sin, judgement and punishment and presents the Catholic faith as very much the only path to God.

Not as only path but as a direct and safest route to God.
I'm always baffles by so called 'Catholics' like you. If you don't think that to be so, why even bother with being Catholic yourself. In fact you are what I term a cultural Catholic, to be a real Mc Coy you would have to stick to the Church dogmas.

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Priests are seen as authority figures whose word is to be absolutely accepted and not questioned.

They're authority figures for some but the second part is just a figment of your overactive imagination.
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but Poles are not that fond of Jews and Francis doesn't share those views.

That is BS right there. I doubt that anyone give a rat **** who is Francis friends with. Also if you would pay any attention to what a Pope do you would know that John Paul II was friend with some Jews and always preached or did some pro-Jewish stuff.

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Basically Franics is too liberal in his views for Polish tastes.

Basically Francis supposed to be the Pope, yet he is not acting like one. Also he has problem with communicating properly with the mass media and with the people. I suppose he means well but he is doing a poor **** job sending his massage.

Also liberalism is BS. Media fishing for his words to interpret them as some sublime liberal messages are deluded or just manipulative.
All so called liberal Cs should have been kicked out of the Church and that would have put the end to all that crap.
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Ironside   
18 Nov 2016
History / German history of my new home in Poland [30]

Ironside middle of zachodniopomorskie

Ah, OK, thanks.
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Silesia was German for a long, long time

Not that long.
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So, anyway from 1741 to 1921 it was German; 180 years.

Wow Mr Genius in action again. From 1741 to 1871 belonged to Prussia. From 1871 belonged to the German empire hardly a democratic republic but I let it slide.

Not 180 years but 70 years when it comes to whole Silesia and when it comes to the upper Silesia you're talking about only
50 yearswhereas the same upper Silesia belonged to Poland as you noticed for at least95 years.
That is about as much as an Independent Ireland exist. Maybe should be merged with Britain again after all what is 95 years to a few hundred years, eh?

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It's it funny that after a democratic referendum where the people decided to remain part of Germany it was instead awarded to Poland. Funny that eh?

You might have no heard about three Silesian uprisings which point out at the popular sentiment of people that wanted to be part of Poland. Also that 60% of referendum pertain to the whole upper Silesia but in 1922 that country has been spilt along lines of pro-Poland pro-German vote, some counties went to Poland and some remained in Germany.

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Pretty easy to see that it was German for longer

No it wasn't. Pretty easy to spot an ignorant .....!
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Just imagine a successful Silesia powering Germany

Why don't move to Germany, eh?
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let's not bother counting pre-1741 becasue Poland wasn't a republic then and freedom wasn't really afforded to the common people.

Poland was a republic back then and was more free than any other country in the world. Geez ....you don't need a mule you can ride your own ignorance.

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You'll have to be very lucky though since many of these documents were deliberately destroyed by the Soviets and the Polish commies right after the war.

Who told you that BS? Most papers where taken by the Nazi German official when they were running west from the Soviets. If you have any evidence that such a destruction happened I would like to see it as I'm not familiar with it.
Ironside   
11 Nov 2016
News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

hope the west makes better relations now with Russia.

Well, they have been trying to have better relation - Obama's reset. In the result of such a policy Russia is trying what else she can get way with ...

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If they want Krym, that Baltic enclave sandwiched between Poland and Russia should go to Poland.
Ironside   
11 Nov 2016
News / What impact will Donald Trump's election have on Poland? [331]

Time to buy the popcorn and don't forget the best VIP lager

Try some Kozel.
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From Polands viewpoint

You're not talking for Poland and that is only good thing I can say about your post.
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This illustrates how out of touch with the rest of the USA, the black community or at-least it's voting base currently is.

Well, they're voted breed and conditioned by the Democratic Party for generations.
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But I am proud of my fellow Americans!

Lyzko is your "fellow" American!
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Why does everyone worry what they will get out of the deal?

Because USA is the world first power and all those who feel threaten and those who are in the USA sphere if influence are naturally interested due to enormous impact of American economy, politics and military NATO.

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We, the American people, are the one who chose Trump. For us. Because nobody helps our people.

Sure, sure ....
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Because nobody helps our people.

Oh you poor victims you, cry me a river.
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We have so many foreigners in America and we feel threatened by them.

You mean, YOU fell threatened by them.
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Los Angeles

That is your example? LA was a gonner in more sense than one longer than you're alive.
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That's why its so dangerous walking there at night.

No, that is more complex that that. Generally it is due to USA policies pursued for the last 50 years.

Now,

Jesus wept Crow, how many times you're going to post your mantra.
In order for Poland to leave NATO would have ample trusted allies in the region and full capacity to maintain an ability to use a nuclear weapon, including extensive space program. That won't happen tomorrow, so for the foreseeable future Poland will remain a member of NATO. Quit your moaning!
Ironside   
9 Nov 2016
News / What impact will Donald Trump's election have on Poland? [331]

You misguided Eastern Europeans can stick your congrats up your ass!!

bhahahahahahahahah!

Congrats USA!

Better Trump than Hillary but overtly there is nothing to celebrate. Unless you think about pain that lefties feel as a result of the election :)
Ironside   
8 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

If they refuse to follow Polish law (which they certainly would), Poland's only option would be to block Facebook altogether.

Gee, that's what I said.
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That's why I asked you if and where you would draw the line.

If people would communicate on Facebook planning to get baseball bats and get Harry.
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the usage of the phrase "Polish death camp" should be considered free speech, even if Polish law might make it illegal in the future. Correct?

Don't know about Polish law. I know that of something is based on a lie is considered slander and that is another line for you. I wouldn't make it illegal I would just sue the S...out of anyone who would use it!
Ironside   
7 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

Facebook laid down their rules in the Community Standards

Its not about rules but about an agreement between Facebook and European commission to block al those sides and accounts that are associated with anti--immigrant stance (in regard to illegal Muslim in Germany nad EU). Meaning dissident voices are to be censored.

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You are missing the point, Iron.

No, you're missing the point. Political games and ideological power play using pall mall all tools to their deposal including censorship, means that public debate is stifled and there is no freedom of speech anymore.

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See what I mean?

I do. If an American company like Facebook want to operate in Poland should apply Polish laws to their 'standards'. Not that it has to do with any rules, it is clearly a political discrimination against people arbitrary targeted by the monopolistic company thinking that it can get away with it!

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Hate speech for example is not allowed.

Hate speech concept is against freedom of speech. So, an American company do not comply with the American Constitution.
I sure would think that invitation and reminder about the fourth of July parade with a picture of the American Falg is considered a hate speech by some Facebook employee. Because that is what had happened in Poland. (change the 4th of July to 11th November and American into Polish flag).
Ironside   
7 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

are a fascist twat.

Who and what is facist, what legal and illegal it is up for the law to decide. Monopolistic organizations, individuals like yourself can have their own obsession and opinions but that doesn't make it legal or right for them to discriminate against that group of people that they dislike.
Ironside   
7 Nov 2016
UK, Ireland / Are Polish people moving back home from the UK? [68]

I think we should look at Brexit through its most archetypal message and that message was precisely: "There are too many of us on our small island"

No - "there are too many foreigners in our country".
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well 52% thought that - the old, the northerners, the poor, Welsh and the less educated plus a small proportion of idealogues, civil liberties types, a few extreme left.

What with this cataloguing and whatnot. Does it really matter? One vote is one vote. Volé!
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the question of immigration, not the EU,

The EU stands for unfettered, uncontrolled immigration. Even thought 75% of immigrants came from outside of the EU and EU law gives some tools to the governments of the member states to control EU immigration to some extend as seen in Germany and France, Austria etc.. PO wasn't the only government that used the EU as an excuse for its policies. lol!

Brexit will bring (hopefully)and end to the EU immigration. It doesn't necessary mean that immigration from outside the EU would stop, or will stop for long. I doubt it.

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to be by far the worst we have ever had in this country

Take a good look at yourself, scum.
Ironside   
7 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

Facebook is a private company

Don't give me that, bakery that has been fined for refusing to prepare a cake for a gay wedding is also a private company/ That fact never protected them from prosecution. What more said bakery is not a monopolistic company that is only a guest in a country.

Private doesn't equal above the law. I think that such company such be kicked out from Poland, it wouldn't be the first time for facebook.

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Don't put words in my mouth, Iron

I don't! Your stance and words have logical consequences. Fact that you are unable or unwilling to notice those consequences is entirely your problem.

It is not a rocket science - you're supporting censorship that is quite clear.
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Yes, it is a pity that Poland allows openly fascist organisations

The pity is they're not fascists organizations if they were your ass would be in serious troubles.
Ironside   
6 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

Are neo-Nazi organizations and their followers also "non-PC

We are talking about legal organizations and monopolistic practises of Facebook in Poland that are discriminatory and ignores law in Poland. Talking, nonsense about neo-Nazis is just a garbage. Why don't you admit openly that you support censorship!
Ironside   
3 Nov 2016
News / Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland [50]

Nope, ain't gonna happen

You due realize that your have Nazi or totalitarian mind-set, no matter what the issues is you're always side with your side because those who oppose you are evil by definition and have no rights nor right to state they point of view.

Pure totalitarian tyranny - little people love it.
Ironside   
3 Nov 2016
Life / What don't you like about Poland or Polish People? [117]

The contradiction come from the Pole themselves.

Right, I thought that you might be some looser ranting about his failure in Poland. Your answer is smart but not intelligent smart rather troll smart. Generalization of the entire nation of people is not what anyone with an ounce of a sense would call fair but you're entitled to your opinion.

Now, most of your countrymen would have answered to such a dictum as you presented on this forum:
"If you don't like it why don't you F off back to your own country!"
I can only say that if you're trolling you're a sad creature and if you're not, get it over with and adios !
Ironside   
3 Nov 2016
Life / What don't you like about Poland or Polish People? [117]

This attitude is fully pathetic, and moronic, how can you be "world champions" if you are at most medium, but mostly mediocre in almost every field?

You're contradicting yourself:

I can fairly say that Polish people are the most jealous, arrogant, chauvinistic, bigots, intolerant, pricks and fake kind of people I ever had to encounter;