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Turkish guy to study at a university in Poland. Is that problem for Polish people? [139]
You did: "They have different ideas what marriage, family and happiness means."
Yes but the above quote is not what you said and presented as my words. Here to refresh your memory: "Sure, Iron, because you're such an expert on what marriage, family and happiness means to over 1 billion people. You can look into the mind of every Muslim on this planet".
I have never said any of it.
I have only stated a fact that different cultures have different ideas about al those issues regardless of them all being humans as well.
In India marriages are arranged between parents/families of the couple to be.
In Turkey marriage between 15 or 14 years old girl and 30 or sometimes 40 plus years old where the girl is told to marry by her family. More often than not she is happy because that is the way things are in there.
In the Gulf states if a woman is raped she dare not say a word because she would go to jail or in some more tribal Islam countries stoned to dead.
In majority of the non - European not Christian civilianization, women defer to men. In number of ways.
I could go on ......but you know better right?
That Polish woman living in Egypt took away from her daughter choices and privileges she enjoyed in a Christian country.
You don't know what you're talking about!
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that Christians were wiping out whole continents and civilisations in the name of God
That is a slogan that means nothing.. What it has to do with the subject debated? I have no desire to educate people on line.
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I disagree.
You can disagree all you want. Your arguments are kindergarten argument - 'Sue did you spite on Mary? You should be ashamed of yourself young lady. - but ...but Jean spited on Vincent two days ago.!'
Your comparison is irrelevant. Comparison is not proof.
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In some cultures people don't even have much choice - maybe they often have to pretend that they believe in this or that or that they agree with this rule or that rule
lots of maybes .. However that is all irrelevant anecdotal chit-chat.
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This proves my point that all Muslims are not the same, they don't have one goal in life, as Johnny claimed - killing infidels.
Many do. However the crux of the matter is that their religion tells them it is a good thing to do. Respectable, one of the few admittedly but still.
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Now tell me - did you go to school and in what country?
guess
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Women are perfectly capable of conducting a rational debate.
Some women - on PF that would be Chemikiem.
All the rest are talking much, they believe that they talk wisely and to the point, In reality it is an incoherent chat about everything and nothing and how they imagine things are...
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My comments aren't "incoherent woman talk".
Pretty much it is. You're making a lot if assumption about things you know very little or nothing about,. Then those assumption in your thinking magically transmute into solid fundaments and irrefutable facts on which you're building your argument.
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In fact, they are more coherent than yours are
I'm not making an argument or building a case here. I'm refuting your assumptions. Incoherence is all yours.
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Your debating skills are often poor, Iron, and it was pointed out to you before already (I think by roz and Atch).
Lol! What are they some kinds of experts? I don't care what they think.
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could we focus on the exchange of the actual arguments and discussing stuff like adults
Do you think that that is what you're doing? lol!
Look, ask Chemikim if you actually make any sense. If she say that you do I'll read all your post here later and if I find that she is right I'll apologise.
So far your argument is based on a typical women logic.
You believe that all humans are the same in their basic needs and reactions. So you assume that all are somewhat like you. If so, that must be pretending they buy into all Islam stuff and nonsense because all that is oppressive and awful to you and they are like you after all right?They wouldn't stand for it, cause you wouldn't.
Hence you assume that most of them are pretending and in fact given a change they would be like you i.e. European.
How many time you assumed something in this chain of reasoning just to build on it as on certainly. I have lost count five, six more?
Do you really think that I could take you seriously after that? Why?
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Then you threw into that cauldron of wishful stew (mush mashie goodie two shoes) few slogans about terrible terrible deeds of the Christians - just to make yourself sound better and somewhat scientific, The bad white men( you have forgotten to add patriarchy lol) and their awful civilianization. Geez.
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What about johnny_reb though? He seems to have a problem with that...
He thinks, let one in, he'll stay and others will follow. He underestimates Poland. lol!
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All I'm doing is defending people against unfair generalisation and prejudice.
No, Islam is a religion not people. The point is that you don't know who you let in, could be OK or could be not. Why? Those like me who are not into generalisations and easy answers for masses know that already. Those who don't know that or don't care - won't change their view.
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The Armenian Genocide was "the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of 1.5 million Armenians".
Which has little to do with historical facts. Saying that, I'm not talking about numbers as I don't know much about that aspect.
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doesn't matter whether it happened during a civil war, a war with other countries, or during an invasion of Earth by aliens from Mars
Sure it does matter for number of reasons.
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No, my "lol" expresses my opinion that it doesn't matter what kind of conflict it was.
Well, that is your opinion fair enough.