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Ironside   
1 Dec 2016
News / V4 (Poland) wants Serbia and 5 others in EU [60]

Its not wise to any politician in Poland to betray Serbians.

Poland doesn't own you anything. Betray? WTF? We're not even allies.

Sure, people can express their opinion on the issue. I can say that I think that Kosovo should belong to Serbia. Its my opinion. I don't think that Poland should do anything in that regard.
Ironside   
1 Dec 2016
News / V4 (Poland) wants Serbia and 5 others in EU [60]

what about guaranteed sovereignty of states by UN charters? If Serbia isn`t protected, why would any state have protection.

Who told you that there is any protection for anyone? UN charters lol please.
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Until recognized Kosovo, Poland was protected

Not connection here.
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See, there is the direct interest of Poland.

No, I don't see.
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By annulling its recognition of Kosovo, Poland would prove that represent serious regional power, that promising much. And most importantly, prove that to those countries which potentially can see Poland as leader.

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Nonsense, you want support for your claim on Kosovo and that is all there is.
Ironside   
1 Dec 2016
News / V4 (Poland) wants Serbia and 5 others in EU [60]

Why? Because without annulled Kosovo recognition, Albanian appetites only rising and their dreams about Greater Albania becoming manic obsession

What do I care? That is your problem eh?
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Ironside   
30 Nov 2016
Language / Correct Spelling - Stacy / Stasia? [12]

Wouldn't it be something like Stasiusia

Grab your Ouija board and ask her Granma for clarification. To my mind nobody Polish would call someone Stasiusia but in jest.

Ok, um, thanks then.

Your welcome.
Ironside   
30 Nov 2016
History / The ongoing de-Germanisation of the Nazis and the Holocaust adds to Poland's Responsibility [124]

To the Ethnic Polish People here

Hmm? Culture and values that what constitute being Polish not your origin.
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The English words "Polish Death Camps" does not mean "camps specially created by Poles, where Polish killers exterminated prisoners".

No S.it Sherlock!

English usage can depend a lot on context and nuance

There, there you hit the nail on the head sir!
Ironside   
30 Nov 2016
Language / Correct Spelling - Stacy / Stasia? [12]

But I wasn't looking for "Stacy" in Polish, rather the correct spelling of what sounds in English like "Stay-shoosha".

That is exactly what you got. I don't know what is 'Stacy' in Polish nor do I care. You asked I delivered.
Ironside   
28 Nov 2016
Study / Turkish guy to study at a university in Poland. Is that problem for Polish people? [139]

You did: "They have different ideas what marriage, family and happiness means."

Yes but the above quote is not what you said and presented as my words. Here to refresh your memory: "Sure, Iron, because you're such an expert on what marriage, family and happiness means to over 1 billion people. You can look into the mind of every Muslim on this planet".

I have never said any of it.
I have only stated a fact that different cultures have different ideas about al those issues regardless of them all being humans as well.

In India marriages are arranged between parents/families of the couple to be.
In Turkey marriage between 15 or 14 years old girl and 30 or sometimes 40 plus years old where the girl is told to marry by her family. More often than not she is happy because that is the way things are in there.

In the Gulf states if a woman is raped she dare not say a word because she would go to jail or in some more tribal Islam countries stoned to dead.

In majority of the non - European not Christian civilianization, women defer to men. In number of ways.
I could go on ......but you know better right?
That Polish woman living in Egypt took away from her daughter choices and privileges she enjoyed in a Christian country.

You don't know what you're talking about!
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that Christians were wiping out whole continents and civilisations in the name of God

That is a slogan that means nothing.. What it has to do with the subject debated? I have no desire to educate people on line.

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I disagree.

You can disagree all you want. Your arguments are kindergarten argument - 'Sue did you spite on Mary? You should be ashamed of yourself young lady. - but ...but Jean spited on Vincent two days ago.!'

Your comparison is irrelevant. Comparison is not proof.
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In some cultures people don't even have much choice - maybe they often have to pretend that they believe in this or that or that they agree with this rule or that rule

lots of maybes .. However that is all irrelevant anecdotal chit-chat.
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This proves my point that all Muslims are not the same, they don't have one goal in life, as Johnny claimed - killing infidels.

Many do. However the crux of the matter is that their religion tells them it is a good thing to do. Respectable, one of the few admittedly but still.

Random bystanders, women children etc.. -------------
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Now tell me - did you go to school and in what country?

guess
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Women are perfectly capable of conducting a rational debate.

Some women - on PF that would be Chemikiem.
All the rest are talking much, they believe that they talk wisely and to the point, In reality it is an incoherent chat about everything and nothing and how they imagine things are...

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My comments aren't "incoherent woman talk".

Pretty much it is. You're making a lot if assumption about things you know very little or nothing about,. Then those assumption in your thinking magically transmute into solid fundaments and irrefutable facts on which you're building your argument.

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In fact, they are more coherent than yours are

I'm not making an argument or building a case here. I'm refuting your assumptions. Incoherence is all yours.
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Your debating skills are often poor, Iron, and it was pointed out to you before already (I think by roz and Atch).

Lol! What are they some kinds of experts? I don't care what they think.
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could we focus on the exchange of the actual arguments and discussing stuff like adults

Do you think that that is what you're doing? lol!
Look, ask Chemikim if you actually make any sense. If she say that you do I'll read all your post here later and if I find that she is right I'll apologise.

So far your argument is based on a typical women logic.
You believe that all humans are the same in their basic needs and reactions. So you assume that all are somewhat like you. If so, that must be pretending they buy into all Islam stuff and nonsense because all that is oppressive and awful to you and they are like you after all right?They wouldn't stand for it, cause you wouldn't.

Hence you assume that most of them are pretending and in fact given a change they would be like you i.e. European.
How many time you assumed something in this chain of reasoning just to build on it as on certainly. I have lost count five, six more?

Do you really think that I could take you seriously after that? Why?
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Then you threw into that cauldron of wishful stew (mush mashie goodie two shoes) few slogans about terrible terrible deeds of the Christians - just to make yourself sound better and somewhat scientific, The bad white men( you have forgotten to add patriarchy lol) and their awful civilianization. Geez.

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What about johnny_reb though? He seems to have a problem with that...

He thinks, let one in, he'll stay and others will follow. He underestimates Poland. lol!
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All I'm doing is defending people against unfair generalisation and prejudice.

No, Islam is a religion not people. The point is that you don't know who you let in, could be OK or could be not. Why? Those like me who are not into generalisations and easy answers for masses know that already. Those who don't know that or don't care - won't change their view.

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The Armenian Genocide was "the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of 1.5 million Armenians".

Which has little to do with historical facts. Saying that, I'm not talking about numbers as I don't know much about that aspect.

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doesn't matter whether it happened during a civil war, a war with other countries, or during an invasion of Earth by aliens from Mars

Sure it does matter for number of reasons.
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No, my "lol" expresses my opinion that it doesn't matter what kind of conflict it was.

Well, that is your opinion fair enough.
Ironside   
27 Nov 2016
Study / Turkish guy to study at a university in Poland. Is that problem for Polish people? [139]

Sure, Iron, because you're such an expert on what marriage, family and happiness means to over 1 billion people. You can look into the mind of every Muslim on this planet.

I never said that. That is what you say. It's a logical fallacy yet another proof your debating skills are off.
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It goes like this: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Seems to me that you didn't quite got it's meaning. Let me help you - 'pay no attention to the plank in your own eye' is not the same as in - pay no attention to the plank in your great,great, great X 30 father eye.

Quite the opposite, the New Testament says that you don't bear responsibility for the sins of your father.

Meaning your examples of Christians doing this or that are irrelevant to this debate.
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Tell this to Jesus, smartass

I'm telling this to you.
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Not quite the same thing as what?

You and some other cultures. In some other cultures nobody would ask you for your preferences in that regard or personal choice or even considered that you're not right in the head if you claimed that this or that is your right.

In Poland it mean nothing, you can do whatever the hell you want. Is not even a big deal - not so in other cultures.

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Well, you've just called gregy741 a raving idiot ;)

Your agnostic friend too.
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Yes, Iron. Did you go to school?

Paulina do you have brain? Are you able to think for yourself?
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That is your opinion.

Not that is the view on the issue in our culture. The same that gives you all those rights and privileges. Is not a question of my personal opinion.

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And what now, you little misogynist?

Did I call you names? No, so you just proved my point. Are you telling me that there is no differences between the way women and men talk about issues?

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World War II ended 71 years ago and I will bring up whatever is needed to be brought up to stress my point

All you do stress your inability to grasp issues. You don't have point! Christianity doesn't preach that is OK to kill peeps.
Ideologies of Nazism and Communism are deadly enemies of Christianity.

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Muslims are people too?

Never said they're not people. If they want to came to Poland to study I'm have no issue with that. I'm only have issue with your misguided views on things.

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Well, people like that are a small minority among Muslims,

That is not the point daughter. The point is that Islam sees it as a martyrdom and point to the heaven as a reward for blowing up a random bunch of people.

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I'm not sure whether "a relative" safety

Better than in most places.
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And the Armenian Genocide was what? A "foreign war"?

No, the WWI coupled with the rebellion of Armenian minority.
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What difference does it make?

If you don't know how can you lol? Is that lol express your ignorance?
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Ironside   
27 Nov 2016
News / Good-change government raising minimum wage in Poland, cutting SB pensions [213]

Is this based on documented cases of harrassment or is it simply collective punishment, not the best idea for rule of law,

What rule of law? By the way those people should be put behind the bars and banned from all from entering any profession or active that in a state sector or in those roles that demands public trust. That what they deserve and that what they should get!

Realistically a lot of water has passed under the bridge....

What we're talking about is not about punishment but about striping away PRIVILEGES they have been enjoying for at lest 20 years. Its more about symbolic justices than about punishment. WTF is wrong with you people?

You mean

You are boring as F! Repeating that old rubbish of your. See, you cannot string a real argument to support you point of view even if your life would depend on it!
Ironside   
27 Nov 2016
Study / Turkish guy to study at a university in Poland. Is that problem for Polish people? [139]

The reality is

Come on? What are you trying t o say? Johnny doesn't talk about Turkish guy studying in Poland but about reality in the USA. If you're as you say versed in

the facts of life.

, you should know that.
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them a decent living, getting married, having a family, being happy. No matter whether they're Muslims, Catholics, Hindus or atheists

I beg to differ. They have different ideas what marriage, family and happiness means.
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But there was time when Christians were killing "heathens" too

Is that argument from the textbook - How to told your opponent to shut up without looking like an ignorant churl?. You are basically saying - Oh you're not perfect either,so shut up!

In fact you have no argument at all, so you lost it at this point!
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People in given countries are born into their religions, culture, traditions just like I was born into Catholicism

Not quite the same thing. You're overly simplifying it.
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not long ago I had a discussion with a Polish agnostic

So what? Listening to raving of some idiot suppose to b e an argument? since when>?
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persecuting people of different religions for centuries (Jews), treating women as second-category people, persecuting people who thought differently, scientists, etc.

Really? Christian did it all? You talking BS woman.
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And for some Jews, for example, the Christian cross

BS, there are always some idiots or ideological churls that are only happy to milky their 'victim' status.
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So are you sure you want to go down the road of such comparisons? Because it's a double-edged sword...

There is difference between incoherent woman talk and a rational debate. Do you really want to bring up stuff from 600 years ago? Why not 6000? Eh? The significance of either today are the same - nil!

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he drinks alcohol.

So? So what this sob stories tell us? Anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all. Besides many Muslim men left their religion, drink the alcohol, do drugs, f...many blonde ****** (you and I would say girlfriends) just to blow himself up after sending to their early graves many unbelievers that are worse than dogs. In this way as a Muslim martyrs their sins were forgiven and they ended up in the paradise as an reward!

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The world seems to be a darker and more scary place with every year

You are getting older - no mystery there.
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if you're lucky you'll meet more good people than bad, if you're unlucky

Don't exaggerate, Poland is a relatively save space.
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when Serbs were performing

Oh come on it was a civil war...
Ironside   
26 Nov 2016
News / Polish journalist punched on Russian TV [32]

If you are not deeply suspicous and untrusting of Russia you are not Polish, probably Russian.

Oh really? That what some people would like to have. So they flame those resentments between Russia and Poland to milk it for their own reasons. Not factual at all.
Ironside   
26 Nov 2016
UK, Ireland / PLEXIT -The great British exodus (Brits in Poland returning home) [38]

in another 10 years

They easily assimilate and will be indistinguishable in the next generation.

That is a contradictory statement. A Next generation is more like 25 years. Yeah, in 25 years Poles will be indistinguishable, except for their names that is.

That doesn't mean that some tic tack would go on grumbling about Poles for another 250 years in that tribal manner that some not so bright peeps think makes them great.

Hopefully Brexit will happen and many Poles will leave and some might even go back to Poland. Those people that won't came back are a great loss for Poland in the long run. (well , 98% of them)
Ironside   
26 Nov 2016
Travel / Is there a lot of racism in Poland now? [7]

I am mixed race

Are you a man or a woman?

the political situation isn't great

BS!

racism is becoming a bigger problem.

Nah!

I'm quite pale but I wouldn't pass for white

If you doesn't look like an archetype of an Arab you're safer in Poland than in the 90% places of the world.

they live in Pruszków, do you think my ethnicity would be a problem to the extent that if I was out anywhere it would cause some kind of verbal attack or worse?

A very slim chance if that next to none. Saying that Pruszkow has a bad rep.
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It is rather a fight between Catholics and atheists

No, it is fight between Poles and Soviets.

Catholics try to lead the country to a religious state. Atheists do not agree.

No, Poles want to build a real country they would run in the interested of the majority and Soviets are fighting to regain privileged position within the country to rip it off for their own personal enrichment and benefits and F!! all the rest.
Ironside   
24 Nov 2016
News / Jesus Christ is Now Officially the King of Poland [164]

And anyway, making Jesus officially the king of Poland

He already is the King of Poland.
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they could declare that Satan is officially the King of Poland

Luckily they lack the acumen and a popular support.
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I'm pretty sure that there are no devil worshipers on PF;

Interesting.
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Nobody other than Jesus turned Jesus into a Jewish guy.

Are you an anti-Semite Harry?
That is rather primitive, unlearned and ignorant way of looking at the issue. I would say that no one can be that stupid to use it as an actual argument ( with an exception of smurf that is). It is pretty clear that is a standard gimmick from the arsenal of wannabe leftie intellectuals.

To which the best answer is a question - Are you an Anti-Semite?
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I am sick of grown ups and entire countries believing in fairy fluff. It's just stupid.

Correction, you're stupid.
Ironside   
24 Nov 2016
News / Jesus Christ is Now Officially the King of Poland [164]

This Act has a very real and immediate effect already. We can even observe its impact on this thread. All devil worshipers are whining, crying and drooling all over PF forums in an act of impotent rage.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2016
Law / Polish wife wants me to sign a prenup [7]

What are the implications of me signing this? Im english she is polish?

WTF? You married a woman not a Pole.
Implication of what? Pre-nub is a legally binding agreement between husband and wife to be. What you'll put in there is up to you both.

You can agree that you'll pay her debts. You could agree that she is the one responsible for her debts.
You could agree that in the event of a divorce you'll pay her an able sum of monies or that she'll pay YOU an ample sum of money.

How the hell WE could possibly know???
Are you sure you're ready for a marriage?
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I believe that she wants you to become responsible for paying her debts.

Your view of your own sex is uplifting. lol!
Ironside   
23 Nov 2016
History / The ongoing de-Germanisation of the Nazis and the Holocaust adds to Poland's Responsibility [124]

But you muist agree that that is very different from saying it was the policy of every German.

I'm not saying that. Alas societies and countries are judged (or used to be judged until a new crop of neo-Marxist Jewish storytellers) by the standards of their elites and by the action of their state. In that light few people with a conviction and courage to go against the grain is sadly just a footnote in the great book of history.

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And you must also concede that whilst the German Nazi Govt created the conditions, other governments and individuals used the opportunity to willingly join in.

I don't have to concede anything. Nor concede I must. I see no reason to side-track into something that cannot be debated properly on this level of generality.

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Many Poles however

How many? Can you produce a data on request? If you say many you should be able to tell us how many. I hope is not one of those openings - 'as they say', 'I heard', 'a general opinion is'.

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DID aid the Germans

Define aid.
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Uncomfortable as you may be with this FACT

I'm not uncomfortable at all. I'm well aware that there were indviduals who sold out Jewish in hiding to the German authorities for a sugar, cigarettes and vodka. Law abiding citizens eh?

I don't see in what way existence of those individuals or their actions would make me uncomfortable?
Ironside   
23 Nov 2016
History / The ongoing de-Germanisation of the Nazis and the Holocaust adds to Poland's Responsibility [124]

The garbage seems to coming from YOUR direction, Ironside:-)

It figures that you prefer to talk on this level knowing full well that you're unable to talk facts. On that note - a middle finger salute!

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Polonius3 begand this thread by trying to suggest that we should be talking about 'German Holocaust' so that we know that nazies were Germans. I disagree.

Well, historical facts as are follow. Holocaust was a direct result of the German state official policy. Nothing more nothing less.
An argument that not all the Germans were Nazis although statistically true is irreverent.
Ironside   
23 Nov 2016
History / The ongoing de-Germanisation of the Nazis and the Holocaust adds to Poland's Responsibility [124]

So Ironside believes

No, you're the one who believes in myths, generalisation and some dunk slogans. I'm talking facts. You are not even able to talk about factual history beside one or two real occurrences you googled and which in fact hasn't been even investigated properly.

Surfing on the sea of maybes and implied guilt will get you nowhere.

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ME to "grow up"??!!

You need to do a lot of growing up and pronto to catch up with your age. If you're really in your 50'.
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is ridiculousLOL

Your assumption are ridiculous. To say the least. Wait, I'm talking to a guy to whom Trump voters are fascist. Progressive lefties deal in slogans, unicorns and the world of fairies not in facts or reality. lol

Grow up Lyzko:
youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U&feature=youtu.be

Sin is found

If you want to talk about morals and your aim is to preach do it in a Church or a Synagog. 99.9% of people alive during the WWII are dead now. What is the point?

On the other hand, many a Pole was all too glad to hand over their Jewish fellow citizens

I'm sure you're unable to answer - how many? If I would ask you to produce a reliable data.
Failing that, American Jews done even less to help their allegedly fellow people in Europe. Notorious example of Jewish's refugees filled boat that has been send back from the USA shores. Not one voice in the Jewish community had been heard. Yet you have a cheek to pick on strangers basing it on some strange notion you have that has nothing to do with reality. Grow up!

but he was not German

Would you explain to me what is your obsession with ethnicity?
DNA pretty much confirm that we're all mixed up to some extend.

Responsibility of Germany doesn't or didn't lie in the fact that some or a lot of Germans were killing Jews but in the fact that it was an official state policy with elites and middle class and top echelons of the German society and a state participated in that.

What is so difficult to understand?

Germans, especially over fifty, don't sleep easily either:-)

Germans no longer don't give a damn!

Poland remained the killing field for Jews

That is some rare garbage. Is that even mean anything? Would you care to translate it from Marxist?
Ironside   
23 Nov 2016
News / Jesus Christ is Now Officially the King of Poland [164]

There was no vote

Why you agonistics are such a pussies?
Really believe in that soviet propaganda that Catholics will be forcing people to attend masses, confection with a gun? You need to be dumb as an ashtray to buy into it. Plus that someone need to be completely ignorant as to Polish culture and tradition.

A bunch of old men can

First of all you're not spring chicken yourself.
Secondly, I have thought that your are liberal left, progressive modern dude. Alas, that blunt display of ageism goes against everything that a progressive liberal holds dear.
Ironside   
22 Nov 2016
History / The ongoing de-Germanisation of the Nazis and the Holocaust adds to Poland's Responsibility [124]

Poland has been trying to deflect her own complicity for years,

There is nothing to deflect. Complicity? Take your head out of your own anus boy. That some degenerate talk, primitive, tribal and even then make no sense.

then German-occupied territory

Depended what area you're talking about. Some were on territory of the GG and some on the territories annexed by the III Reich. Geez what a great expert we have discovered in Lzyko lol!

Ah, what a surprise to see you blaming Jews for things that never happened. I

What Jews Harry? He wrote about Ben Gurion.

am willing to "build bridges"

Are you kidding? By perpetuating some strange myths build on trauma? In the same way you would view someone who would want to build bridges with Jews by saying - 'Jews all over the world conspired to take over this planet and rule it.. Hence there is too may of them finances, banking, media and in other key places.'

Now be a good boy Lzyko and confess. After you do that all is going be hunky-dory.

Grow up Lyzko!

To the extent that that statement it true,

What a tortured logic. Facts are either true or false. Fail!
Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

Prevent !

Yes, prevention. That -

The priest can touch the host because of his "loft authority" again for the 'control' issue

is not the reason. That is your bias talking.
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After all, what Poles think about SLAVA?

What is that?
How about renaming your country Russianass instead of Serbia? After all you already have Putin-vile village lol. Renamed quite recently too.
Ironside   
21 Nov 2016
News / Poland And the Pope: Not Happening, Apparently [58]

Why is that ?

To prevent people using it in some sacrilege, devil worshiping rituals or other s...t like that. If you think that those things do not happen, think again.

Well o.k. then, here I go not hiding my bias.

O. K. I have no problem with that.

The victim should have

Provided the alleged victim exist at all.