History / Nowa Huta and other achievments of PRL (People's Republic of Poland) [79]

Funny,every Warsawian I know tells me the same joke...."where do you get the best view of warsaw? from the top of the palace of culture as its the only place you cant see the Palace of culture..."

being a luvvie though I like the idea and qiute like the architecture too :)

Life / Things we enjoyed as kids in Poland [140]

lols,after 25 years and about a dozen house moves I still find myself standing barefoot on some damm miniture grenadier guardsman every now and again :)

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]

Im just glad Crow isnt an Irishman :) Sheesh,actually,from now on,Im going to picture Crow as ian paisley, might help me fight the urge to answer his posts with a serious reply :)

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


Here Here, God Save Ireland,God Save the queen......and gawd 'elp the rest of us :)


What positions amongst the Serbs you barnpot? Aside from giving the Serbian Royal family safe haven for 70 odd years......

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


I do. But.........

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


i disagree with most of what he says,but my point is,if he came on and spouted the usuall one sided ill informed crap about all oirish being jolly fiddle playing romantic oppressed revolutionaries and all english as effete devilish imperialist murderors then no one would have called him out.


Do you also have an idea what it was like to run from smoke and dust clouds after a bomb went off in a cinema,shopping centre,pub,thearter etc ad nauseum? Do you have any idea what its like to live in a country,that because of what some Normans did nearlly a thousand years, that has a bunch of thugs are running around murdering civilians? Any clue as to what its like to live in that target country with a name that marks you out as one of the fellow countrymen of the said civilian murdering terrorists,and to sympathise with the cause but deplore the tactics?

The trouble is to a lot of us on here this isnt "History" but basically sh!t we all thought we'd seen the last of in the 1990s,its not abstract or even a case of "our grandparents were...." to too many of us it probably means friends and familiy or in somecases ourselves.

Off-Topic / Penn and all I owe you an explanation... ref to Polish vs. British vs. American [38]

TBH,I couldnt stand pennboy,and dont know half the stuff your all refering too as I dont tend to read things just to get righteously anoyed.....either way, in this I come out on his side,just from the crap im reading in this thread.

Fekkin sins of the father and all that. Grow the fcuk up.

Off-Topic / Penn and all I owe you an explanation... ref to Polish vs. British vs. American [38]

Aye,pennboy was a bit of a tosser,but he could be fun sometimes. ganging up on one person Im afraid never covers anyone in glory,just comes across as cheap imho.

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


7 Billion pounds sterling..........and guess what our government needs to save hence tax hikes and service cuts...yup...7 Billion....
Time to let it go.....to be fair,most Irish and British people have,it tends,in my experience,to be Yanks and Poles who blindly eulogies the nasty boyos as some sort of romantic freedom fighters...


Ok,so if you dont agree you are either a troll or mental...OK, I see the level of debate here......

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


Im sure she can afford it...Im also sure she wont pay a fekkin penny of her (literally) own money.

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]

I love the way if something doesnt fit into the stereotype of poor oppressed oirish folks and evil nasty englishmen...well,it must be trolling.........I refer to hagueC,not the fekwit pretend paddy.....

UK, Ireland / What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people? [191]


lol....or should that be lloll...really,posting links to soft 0orn....tsk...and too late for St Davids day......

History / How much did the Soviet "liberation" cost Poland in 1945? [14]

600,000 dead russians?

Off-Topic / How would Poles react to a visit from Queen Elizabeth? [72]


lols,yes they do....the taliban,now theres a bunch of big balled boyos....they stand up toe to toe with the British army, they dont blow up women and kids in shopping centres and at war memorials before skulking back down south.


facts,if that was the case,explain all the troubles since then muppet. "all island" my hairy arse......what about the majority in Ulster that didnt want to be a papal backwater?


lols....dont actually bring real history in to the debate,thats not fair on us wee folk from the isles to cope with.....:)


wow,1867,thats got to be some sort of record,beating even crows usual "news flashes"....


Now you mention it.....;) Only people tucked safely a few thousand miles from the bombs talk like that,or knuckle headed chavs on sh!thole derry estates.


thats an idea, catch em,stick em in a para beret and tie em up in the bogside :)

QEII in Poland,yeah,why not,cant see a problem there ,the interested will gawp the rest will moan about closed roads.

Life / Want to watch BBC iplayer in Poland? [59]

Hello....big " ;) " at the end of post..... I spend half my time watching stuff on the net ,Im hardly likely to condem anyone. Why so touchy?


So why should YOU get To watch it FOR free then IF Im paying FOR it to BE made her IN the UK and you ARE not paying a PENNY towards IT?

History / When will Russia and Germany return the things they took from the Polish in Poland ? [49]



Crumbs,I shall have to post more during the day,Mr angry tends to come out more at night :)


Aye lad,but has tha seen t'prices, tha cud buy thee sel' a barn full 'finest racin' pidgins this side uv ilkely moor....


Thanks,though I claim no first hand experience of the States ( but NYC and,Cajun country are on my destination wish list :) ) but its an impresion I get.

Im Scottish born and proud of it,Im also half irish but in this part of England thats hardly an exception,the same as if Id been part Polish,it just wouldnt mark me out,and didnt so beyond getting a bit rowdy watching Braveheart or an England v Scotland Soccer/Rugby game Im about as "Scots" as Bernie Mac and as "Irish" as Barak O'bama...and would never dream of wearing a Kilt except at a wedding where as Ive seen first hand the north american families walking round edinburgh decked out in full "clan tarten" and talking about "english sasenachs" :)

Its understandable and quite sweet when its innocent affection or even afectation,its only when someone adopts a nationality or "roots" who already has the addition of a rather hatefull personality that problems come up.

re the returning stuff. There has to be a cut off point or where will t all end?
Do I get back a strip of land stolen from one set of ancestors during the aftermath of the 45 and the highland clearances? Maybe another ancestors home in calcuta,sure he was there as part of the emerging empire but he bought the land fair and square so....? Should Dennmark maybe pay reperations for the Vikinger raids? Or the city of Gdansk pay a levy to the descendents of the Hanseatic league? John Paul Jones Bombarded the Yorkshire coast, can I have a tenner in damages please Uncle Sam or does one of his descendents owe me the money? If so,thats handy,I'll ask my Aunt for it next time I visit :)

Life / Want to watch BBC iplayer in Poland? [59]

Your welcome. Us suckers still here pay the license so you can watch Holby City in Poland......oh,wait,you can...its called BBC prime......tw*ts ;)

UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]


And I remember the first few Poles that turned up in my small town. Shady looking fekkers,middle aged,big 'tasches, black leather jackets and brand new Polish registered BMW's and Audi's........


Lols,met a few of those on my travels too,its like some 1920s sub culture of englishmen wandering round europe living off past real or imagined glories...tragi comic,almost chaplinesque with a dash of Orwell.....

UK, Ireland / UK: How to create a perfect scapegoat? [54]


Thank you,someone honest for a change and see's this for what it is,people getting rightly p!ssed off at an over soft touch government...or series of governments. You claim you are joking,but in p!ss take veritas fella


Perfect sumation :) Missed out the obsesion with the horse faced hooker princess diana....


Which ironically means show a total lack of commitment to or respect for the queen ,thats "britishness" :)


nah,your way down the scale mate.......starts at dark brown in shemaghs and slides down the degrees of islam first....

History / When will Russia and Germany return the things they took from the Polish in Poland ? [49]

What "amazes" me is the fact that supposedlly inteligent people still find it "amazing" that "Poles and other nationalities can coexist together here in America whereas their mutual history in Europe was sometimes so violent"....its pretty obvious that people dont give a flying fig where their neighbours ancestors are buried as long as their neighbour is a stand up guy,and frankly Europes centuries of warfare were nothing to do with huge gulfs between people but purely greedy,incompitent or plain evil leaders.......

As to the other theory, my two penneth worth is,the further removed from what you call your roots the more vocal your proclomations of loyalty are. Its the old story of the most tarten clad,haggis eating,bagpipe playing "Scotsmen" tend to be 15th generation Scots Americans/canadians etc rather than some ned in Aberdeen.

When Im in my home area Ive a pretty neutral ,well spoken "northern middle class" accent,when I get near london I sound like,well, eeh bah tat lad,wheres tha going wi tha whippet .....

Feedback / How many hours a day do you dedicate for PF and how often? [21]

Too bl**dy many,came on tonight for "5 minutes" at 11pm,just spotted its 1.05 am .........night night folks :)

History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

There are a few reconstructed villages and manor houses though arnt there?
These cant replace the lost glory but they help to give us an idea.

History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]

back to Poland eh Jonni,lets not thread Hijack....
I think one huge advantage of being on the catholic side of the renaissane is definatly the interior of your churches. My local church is 13th century and looks gorgeous from the outside,inside though it is whitewashed,all the wonderfull art and colour totally destroyed in the 17th C (incidently,at the same time as the roof was striped bare for Cromwells musket balls...)


generally though were not Polish "manor houses" also often built of wood? Ok,hands up,one of my sources for this is Pan tadeusz ...... but I seem to recall wood was never seen as a "second rate" material or a sign of a lack of wealth.

UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]

I think though,from experience you have to seperate the person who maybe wants a new start and is therefore a bit hazy about their past from those who are out and out crooks. Luckily Ive only really got mixed up with the former and suffered no worse than a bad case of the BS overdose.......

UK, Ireland / Criminal gangs luring Polish migrants to UK for benefit fraud [16]


Not just me then......the naive always lower their guard when they meet someone from "home",personaly I raise mine....

History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]


rubbish.


sorry,could you clarify exactly what colonies england was supposed to have in the 15th century? I dont think Calais really counts as much of an empire does it...

Polands buildings do seem to follow more closely the traditional Italianate style than in western europe,but again,thats down to the difference between the southern and northern renaissance. EG,the Waval could frankly be anywhere in Italy and not stand out....helped I suppose by being designed by an Italian :)

News / Irena Kwiatkowska died on March 3, 2011 [14]

really funny people are often bonkers?

Law / Germany and Austria to fully open their labor market to Poles in 2011. Economic growth? [49]


Nope,its plain fact jonni. 15 years ago round here when I worked in a warehouse while studying i was on £14.oo an hour,now warehouse wages post 04 are down to minimum wage.....the influx of immigrants has destroyed any progress made around here in the 90s,utterly blown it apart. I dont hate people for coming here,the people I hate are the arrogent bastards that label anyone who doesnt own a bussness as some sub human peasant chav.....come the fekking revoloution i'll be glad to deliver the 21 gramme neck pill to cnuts like them. ;)

Law / Germany and Austria to fully open their labor market to Poles in 2011. Economic growth? [49]


lols,bless,so turning up and getting free health care without any prior contributions to NI is not counted as a benifit in your eyes....I see Brits in Poland have to pay for medical care,why the fek shouldnt Poles in the UK be made to pay?

History / Poland during the Renaissance [146]


Not really, Gaul and Britain were both Latinized Roman provincesand the term "Northern renaissance" is widely accepted for being just that though starting in the low countries.

so stricktly speaking i agree that Poland didnt have a classical renaissance but it certainly enjoyed the benifits and played its part in the wider european renaissance.


P!ssing away your Gold on 375 court painters does not qualify one for the term "Economic Powerhouse" and being stupendously richer than the dirt poor serfs around you does not translate to the thriving middle and trade classes arising in the rest of europe at the time.