News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]


They still don't care. Coal will continue to be used as the primarily fuel till at least 2050 according to the Polish government. There is no other economic option - importing is too expensive and renewables are still in their infant stages. Coal is plentiful and cheap hence that is what will continue to be used for the time being. If the EU wants us to stop using coal then they canpay for our natural gas imports or build clean power plants for us.


Yes of course they want to reduce the smog levels especially in the south - as long as their utility bills don't drastically increase though...

What you also have to understand is that Poles have always had a deep reverence for the coal industry and coal miners - even during communist times. Miners are as respected in society as say office workers or nurses or architects. They are paid quite well too for blue collar work. It has been this way for generations in Poland and although yes, people do want less smog, the industry isn't going away. In fact, there are plans to expand the coal industry as the demand for energy increases. There is no other low cost option for Poland, so unless the EU wants to subsidize Polish peoples' utilities and pay for our natural gas imports, that's what will continue for the foreseeable future.

Work / Job offer in Lodz, gross 1000€/4260PLN. Apartment and healthcare paid for. Good in Poland? [46]

Depends on your qualifications. How much finance experience do you have? What division will you be working In? What degree(s) do you have? Etc.

1k euro isnt a lot for poland. A small apartment in lodz wont run more than 3000 zs. But for a young single person its enough to live a middle class existence on. You'll still have to budget wisely as imported goods are expensive. You'll likelt have to use public trans as having a car and filling your tank up will take a big chunk out of your earnings..on the bright side the tax rate is far far lower than Sweden's. Dont get too excited about the free healthcare its really meant for emergencies. If you have some condition or need regular checkups youll likely need to spend some money on private practice but fortunately its pretty cheap.

If this is an entry level I'd take it. Thats a decent package for entry level. Put in a few years, get some experience, then move on after 3 4 years to a better position/division, do an advanced degree/certification, make a book of business with high net worth individuals, etc. My very first 'professional' job was commodity broker at the height of the global recession. A decade later i still make commission off some of my clients and advise them. Managers at large banks in pl make 15 to 20k zs plus , even at polish banks, which is a high salary for the country and will allow you to save. Brokers and traders make even more but pay is mostly performance based.

If this is investment banking or trading or wealth management id def take it. If its retail Id be cautious unless you know you can move to a different division. It really depends what stage youre at in your career.

Good luck. And congrats on having purchased some stocks and bonds. Less and less people esp the tounger generations are saving money, let alone investing it.

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]

Any member can cancel article 7. It's highly unlikely it will go through seeing as any v4 or other ally can immediately cancel. Besides this mep vote is nonbinding.

politico.eu/article/european-parliament-triggering-article-7-poland-judicial-reform-voting-rights

Maybe it's time for poland to take the money and run if there's no compromise. No deal is better than a bad deal.

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No theyre not current but that doesnt mean we poles should forget how we were treated just 1 2 years ago. Neither is this the first or even second time this happened. And yes and I said I can understand why some brits do that. I wrote that if millions of people from all over came to my little island nation id be pissed too. Probably even more so since I've been in the construction business since a teen which poles are known to undercut and bid rig. Obviously as a Pole I do not wish for my motherland to be turned into a place like germany, France, etc hence my reluctance to welcome unvetted unskilled people known cause problems in other countries theyve settled in already. So yes while I can understand why ma.y brits have the same line of thought, naturally I will.support my fellow citizens over them.

Yes Poles are lovely and tolerant.... to a point and certainly not when their livelihood and safety are jeapordized

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First off it common sense isn't even common in the first place and it is severely lacking in western Europe - especially when it comes to immigration policy. Thankfully, that's not the case in Poland. That's where cultural enrichment trucks drive on French, British, etc sidewalks and not Polish ones.

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We let in over a million Ukrainians. And guess what? No problems. No terrorism, no massive rapes, no torching of cars, no demonstrations calling for Poland to implement Orthodoxy or reject democracy. In fact, they're wonderful because instead of living off the dole and demanding food, money shelter - now even migrants are demanding brand name clothing as they're unhappy with the free clothes they receive - they work, pay taxes, learn polish, and assimilate. Yet if we let in over a million muslims, like Germany did, we'd have the same problems as they do - almost no assimilation, tons of no go zones, terrorism, economic burden (Germany spends more taking care of migrants than on education), thousands upon thousands of rape cases, etc. etc.

Clearly the variable is from WHERE you let migrants in from. Taking in migrants from Ukraine or Belarus - no problems. Taking in migrants from north Africa and middle east - tons of problems. Poles voters have chosen leaders who will not bring in hordes of migrants from ME/Africa - much to the EU's dismay - and in a democracy it's the majority of the voters that decide and the Polish citizens have voted and decided what they want and don't want.


Exactly. Yes it's not all of them - no one's debating that. Nonetheless, it's not worth the risk to the entire Polish population to bring in Muslism just because 'some' of them have a predisposition to terrorism, rape, etc. Yet for some reason when we let in tons of Ukrainians we didn't have that problem. Yes, some Ukrainians are also bad - they fight, steal, rob, etc. But at least a large chunk of Ukrainian men aren't raping Polish women, living off benefits, demanding free stuff, etc. This again shows that the variable is from WHERE the migrants come from. You bring in a million Ukranians, Poles, Spaniards whatever and chances are you'll have no problems with terrorism - they settle in, assimilate, and work hard with a small chunk perhaps committing robberies, dealing drugs, beating people up, whatever. Yet bring in a million Afghanis, Iraqis, Tunisians, and it's the opposite - you can bet that you will have terrorism, rape, demands for free stuff, refusal to work and assimilate, etc.

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We would if the EU got their way though and PiS/Polish population didn't express that they don't them - that's the point. Poles are doing everything to prevent that from happening so that we aren't faced with terrorism, rapes, violence, years of state of emergency, etc. once they arrive.

Another reason is because according to CBOS, 3/4 of Poles don't want them. In a democracy, the majority decides what happens. The Polish voters chose leaders who will not flood their country with turd worlders and expose their fellow countrymen to raping and pillaging.

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They indeed learned very quickly that bringing in tons of unvetted, unskilled muslims and Africans would not be good for a majority white European Christian country. They learned very quickly that these people would screw up France, Germany, Sweden, and increasingly UK. And they were right.

@Ironside
I don't care if you call it xenophobia, common sense, neo-Marxism or anything else. Whatever it is - Poland's doing the right thing. And yes, Poles are xenophobic - they're scared of Muslim migrants because of all the problems they caused in the west. It's time to stop apologizing because by that you're buying right into the social Marxists bullshit that Trostky popularized by calling his opponents 'racist.' By saying yes, I'm a proud white European and I'm not going to apologize for it or the fact that I want my nation, my culture, my people to remain intact, thrive, and my children to have a future you're saying that words like 'xenophobe' 'islamaphobe' have no effect on you. They're just empty bullshit Marxist new speak - and more and more people are realizing that because claims of 'racist' are so played out that no one on the right cares anymore. If the majority of Poles are xenophobe or racist or islamaphobe because they don't want the country to have islamic terrorism, skyrocketing rapes, and cultural enrichment trucks speeding down sidewalks so be it. Like the child's saying goes 'sticks and stones can hurt my bones but names will never hurt me' - well most Poles would rather be called a name than deal with them and their family and friends being mowed down by ak47s, blown up by suicide bombers, etc. That's the difference between Poland and Germany, Sweden, France, UK, etc. Poles simply don't care - they'd rather be called some bs name by a Marxist than deal with hordes of unvetted migrants raping and pillaging the country.

The Germans, French, Swedes and increasing Brits are so concerned with PC that they've literally put not just their whole country at risk but their own lives and their families as well. Poles however are not - we don't give a sh1t about PC.

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Which is what is preventing Poland from becoming like Germany, France, Sweden, etc. You can thank Polish xenophobia for the fact that we've had ZERO Islamic terror attacks, we don't have nonstop rapes, we don't have yearslong state of emergency, and we don't have cultural enrichment trucks driving down the sidewalk...


Doubt it. Poland's been opened up to the world since the 90's and it's more populist and right wing than ever. According to CBOS, 50% of PO supporters, the more 'liberal/lefty' party, reject turd world migrants. With PiS that number is over 90%. Total it's 74% - meaning 3/4 of Poles do not want any sort of turd worlders coming in and ******* up the place and paying for their food, housing, and soccer team of kids while the husband smokes hookah, beats his wife, prays 5 time s a day and then to top it off tells the host nation that they should adapt to muslims instead of the other way around. Poles aren't interested in that BS. We'll take in Ukranians, Indians, Chinese, etc. BECAUSE they want to work, study, contribute etc. to Poland which is welcome. These people adapt to OUR laws, customs, etc. instead of asking Poles to adapt to theirs, which we will never do. Also, we will NOT take in hordes of migrants as we see no net benefit for Poland and Polish people in doing so.

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Yes I did... post 163 and 170 in this thread...

and two years is nothing. I'm sure if you were harassed, beaten, told to get out of a country repeatedly 2 years ago you'd still remember it today.


I count nationalists as dear friends and people who aren't scared to stand up for their country, religion, and identity in an age where cultural Marxism seeks to destroy white Christian European identity. We need more of these people, not less. If we whites didn't have such people we'd be totally annihilated and conquered - much like France, Germany, Sweden, etc. is today. Thankfully Poland has many patriots - some vocal, some now - but all share the same view and that is Poles don't want to lose their homeland and identity that they and their ancestors fought and died for. We're not going to just hand over out country to a bunch of turd worlders and then live our whole lives working to pay for their housing, food, benefits, etc. while the country is racked with violence and years of state of emergency like France, etc. **** that sh1t! If it wasn't for the 'polska dla polakow' and 'bog honor ojczyzna' types you'd have no go zones, Islamic terror, nonstop mass rapes just like in western Europe as there aren't enough patriots and nationalists to resist the Zionist/Marxist agenda of dividing and conquering Europe by using turd worlders as proxies.

In fact, you should be thanking and supporting these people lest you want Poland to start having cultural enrichment trucks killing innocent people just like the countries to the west. The vast majority of Poles reject migration from the turd world - the only difference between them and the 'polska dla polakow' crowd is that the latter are far more vocal about their opinions - but their worldview is much the same as the majority of Polish people.


Considering that it is SCIENTIFIC FACT that western men have lower average sperm counts than at any time in history, I don't see high t levels as a problem. Low T and high estrogen counts (most common in soy boys due to all the soy they eat and drink) leads to being a giant pussy. Most women don't want a man who's a giant pussy and most real men certainly don't want to be friends with a guy that acts more like a fag or a woman.

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Actually I take that back - afterall Farage is British... and the voters did pass Brexit...

it wasn't totally to due with money though - it also had to do with asserting more sovereignty and being able to set its own immigration and economic policies. one of the reasons why these negotiations are taking a long time is because the EU is putting out so many fires at once.

Yes they made exemptions. Another thing though is they also felt like they had basically given control of the EU to the Germans. This is adding insult to injury - they see a defeated WW2 power basically once again reasserting its will over Europe - albeit with bureaucracy and not Panzers and Stukas. It didn't help that many of the older folks, which oftentimes worked in a trade their whole lives whether fishing, construction, agriculture, whatever suddenly had all these new rules which weren't even made by the British government. It was a big pride thing too - and some Brits have huge ego's which props to them they ruled most the world a long time. So when now they're reduced to basically their only original island and some minor territories like the Falklands and now EU, lead by Germany of all people, is basically swaying the EU to impose all these restrictions on manufacturing, banking, business, immigration, education and asking the UK to spend billions upon billions of dollars - much of which E Europe gets (Thanks guys!) well you'd be pissed too if you were some native Englishmen who's whole family is English and now suddenly you have all these new rules at your business increasing your costs, the market is flooded with competition, you see boats in historically british waters everyday now if you're a britishmen while now you're in a fully globalized economy so if youre selling a commodity you can't charge nearly as much for it anymore... and its just a cascading effect.... this is why so many of the older peeps too voted for brexit while college educated youth and lefties chose remain

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It is a cucked country, and like cucks they prefer to accept a simpler reality than to resist and fight. Poland is not a cucked society, that's why it is fighting the EU when it feels the EU has crossed a red line. It's really that simple.... Poles are fighters, British are not - at least not anymore..


The salaries are no better than in the US, Germany, and most Western nations yet the cost of living - especially real estate prices - are out of this world. In fact, I'd argue the average salaries are lower than in the United States (and perhaps even places like Austria, Finland, Iceland, etc) yet the cost of living doesn't even compare. My friend bought a tiny condo and when he told me he paid 700k pounds for it I couldn't believe it - but he wasn't lying. Unless you want to live around neckbeards and ninjas, be prepared to spend a ridiculous sum of money. And forget about a place like Kensington or Chelsea unless you're a multimillionaire. I remember one listing was for a small 2 story house with only 3 bedrooms, no yard whatsoever, and still they wanted something like 2.5 3 million pounds for it.

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Sorry should've clarified - UK was expected to raise rates (by .25%) but most believe that will no longer happen and at best will remain or perhaps even be cut.. not increase them - wrote that in error. They originally were suppose to increase the rates but decided against it due to slow 2018 growth and tepid borrowing


I don't know.. I still think that most the Eurocrats want UK to remain

But yeah UK cant seem to get their sh1t together with Brexit negotiations... Seeing as the conservatives resemble labor more and more everyday I didn't think it would be this messy yet they can't agree on anything

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Sadly yes.... the conservatives/torys are traitors - they're not conservative at all!

I wouldn't be surprised if Brexit doesn't even up going through its a shame that the British put up with the nonsense of their government.. Not to mention that freedom of speech has totally gone out the window and now people are getting arrested and prosecuted for thought crime..

Work / Net Salary for comfortable life in Wroclaw [14]

Sal,

I was born in Wroclaw and most of my family lives there. Although I primarily live in the US, I travel there regularly and will be going there again this summer. I plan on moving back to Wroclaw for good in the near future.

Basically, an upper middle class existence in most Polish cities, in my opinion, starts at around 10,000 zloty a month gross (brutto as they call it there). This is a bit under $3,000 USD a month. Such a salary will allow you to afford most common luxuries while still putting some money aside for savings/investments. A more middle class existence where you don't have to worry about having all your needs and wants fulfilled can be attained for 7k 8k zloty but your savings potential will be diminished and you can forget about buying that new BMW or Mercedes on such a salary - a new entry level/mid range Skoda or VW though won't be a problem. A person living a Spartan life would be making 3k-4k a month yet even with a salary like that people still manage to enjoy life, travel, enjoy the local entertainment, etc. Try to avoid taking out any loans in Poland as the interest rates are insanely high and save/invest as much money as you can. If you plan to buy property be very very very careful as many unscrupulous agents, lawyers, title companies, etc. will try to rip you off and steal all your money if they detect you're a foreigner that doesn't know all the laws and nuances of the market.

If you're living expenses and a meal a day is covered by your company, than honestly you won't need more than maybe $1,000 USD a month budget and even that will take you pretty far - as long as you're not buying a bunch of imported clothing (a pair of Versace sunglasses will run you 800-1000 zloty, nikes will be 300, 350+ zloty depending on type, style, etc. generally itll be hard to find even the most popular Adidas low tops for less than 200/250 zloty) .... BUT you can find many Polish brands that are just as high quality, sometimes even better imo, and cheaper than the imports.

Just about everything is cheaper in Poland than in the West with the exception of imports. Gasoline, electronics, imported clothing brands, etc cost more. Food, public transportation, entertainment, utilities, etc tend to be quite a bit cheaper. Cost of living is lower than a US city but it really depends on your habits and lifestyle. You can rent a place for as little as 2.5k, 3k zloty a month (granted it will be a small studio/1 bedroom). There is a lot of new 'town home' style residences that are being built that go for 400k-600k zloty. While you can go to a restaurant and eat a meal for as cheap as 10-12 zloty, there are plenty of restaurants in the town square where you'll find a meal easily costs 60 zloty plus. This may not seem like much to a person coming from a wealthy western country, but for most Poles a 60 zloty meal is a rare luxury while for say a Brit, German, or American they'll be ecstatic that they got a steak dinner for like $16-$17. However, groceries are generally far cheaper than in the west - unless again you're buying imported brands in which case they'll cost the same or slightly more due to VAT (import taxes).

Same thing with clothing - you can buy cheap shirts and pants for a fraction of what they'd cost in the west but if you want to buy imported brands like Nike, Adidas, Armani, etc. they'll cost you more than they would in the west.

One nice thing about Wroclaw is there is ALWAYS something going on in the rynek (town square) - sometimes it's a sporting event, sometimes it's a concert, sometimes it's evevn something random as like a shampoo company giving people cheap shampoo/haircuts while playing some techno. There's always street performers as well.

The nightlife IMO isn't that great. You're limited to basically like 4-5 clubs - 1 of which is banana which I like to go to and the other 4 are located literally one right next to the other. The nightlife is a lot better in other European cities - even Warsaw has a lot better nightlife. However, Wroclaw makes up for that for having a lot of other attractions, lot of museums, lot of clubs and organizations for everything from biking, to book clubs, to hang gliding to even 1%er OMGs. Whatever you're into - you will find a group of people that are into the same thing.

As far as making extra money, tutoring English will likely be your best option. Rates vary but based on your age and experience I'd say you can comfortable charge around 50-60 zloty an hour.

Although much (most I'd say) of the youth speak English, you will want to start learning Polish. Although it's possible to manage with just English, you will have a difficult time communicating with Poles from older generations as most do not speak English. They grew up in the PRL where Russian was compulsory. Some speak German.

You may also find a niche part time job using your Arabic skills.

Good luck - feel free to message me or write back if you have other questions.

Oh and cigs cost usually around 15 16 zloty at the super market give or take a few zloty depending on brand and where you buy them. Counterfeit cigarettes cost half that but many of them are naaaasty. You can tell the difference because the warning label on the counterfeit cigs will be in English/Russian/german or some other language other than polish but the labeling and everything like the Marlboro box will look exactly the same.

If you plan on eating out at cheap/ mid range restaurants 2x a week, don't do a whole lot of shopping (not imported brands anyway) and go to parks, museums, etc. even like every day or every other day, and eat breakfast at home instead of going out you can even make $500 last you a month as long as you budget wisely. $1k would be plenty and you'd be able to do a lot of shopping with that and enjoy some of the nicest restaurants. I've been going to Poland a long time so I'll often take nike Adidas stuff for my family and friends and sell it but then buy dress shirts, suits, dress shoes, etc. because they tend to be much cheaper than in the US especially for the quality. You can get a nice nested suit for like 800-1000 zloty in Poland with tailoring and everything, in the US you'd have to spend almost that much but in dollars even for a 'mid range' Ralph Lauren one with Armani's going for 1k-2k plus.

Also, taxis are very cheap as is public transport. Taxis are everywhere in Wroclaw so you definitely won't need to like rent a car to get around. It wouldn't even be worth it because gas is expensive and the drivers are crazy.

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The difference is though the British opened the arms to a seemingly unlimited flow of foreigners with open borders and basically no vetting because they realized they needed a 2nd citizen class of cheap workers - the problem is they overdid it by not being selective who they let in, limiting people from certain countries, limiting people who wouldn't be a net benefit, etc. The British weren't going to work in the fields or blue collar trades at competitive, globalized wages and they knew that most of the Muslims that refuse to assimilate there weren't going to work anywhere, except for a few selling t-shirts and kebabs, so they needed Eastern Europeans to do the hard productive labor - construction, agriculture, manufacturing, etc. The Indians, Pakistanis, Caribbeans, Muslims, etc. weren't going to take those types of jobs - they each have their own thing going on and tend not to work in the more blue collar trades. The blue collar Brits were against this obviously because they wanted to keep their 20 30 pound an hour painting, carpentry, plumbing, etc. jobs. Poles undercut their earnings so they could get a foothold in the market and eventually dominate it.

Poland was very careful in who it took in - it only wanted other Eastern Europeans namely Ukrainians and Belarussians because, like UK, Poland now due to its new found wealth needs a 2nd class of cheap workers. However, Poland did not want to take in Muslims and Africans as their experience with taking in Muslims in the past wasn't good as despite all the money spent over half of them left for Germany anyway plus the risk of Islamic terrorism was too great. Also, the vast majority of Poles rejected migration from these lands so it would've been a deeply unpopular political move. Not so with Ukrainians though.

And FYI - you guys in UK should pull a Soros and short your pounds especially as interest rates will surely rise in the next few months triggering a sell off


Yes, patriots who do not want to become a minority in their own country and have their native culture eroded and replaced with Marxist multiculturalism.

Now that even the more nationalist Brits realize that Poles are a net benefit to the country as they assimilate, work hard, and don't cause problems by setting up no go zones and waving sings saying 'UK Go TO Hell' 'No Democracy - We Just Want Sharia' etc now even UKIP is wooing Poles....

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Again, like i said in the last page yes the anti polish sentiment has gone down now since the brexit vote and prior to that polands eu ascension. That doesnt mean poles should forget how they were treated just 1-2 years ago (let alone during ww2 and prl era) and it doesn't mean that they won't experience this kind of treatment in the future yet again.

And what's wrong with the polska dla polakow crowd? If poland isnt suppose to be for polish people, than who? Britain is a mostly immigrant country, poland is not nor does it wish to become one.

And fyi I've been to participated in Nov 11 celebrations. It is not the narodowcy that cause problems - it is the few dozen antifa that try to block all the people nationalists and families alike. Theyll use tactics like sitting and refuse to move (the polish police quickly manhandle them and toss them in the back of a party wagon) or even whip out their d1cks and start peeing so that people.are forced to walk in it and banners get dirty. Atleast no one cares when these nasty ***** are promptly removed.

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]

Stats say otherwise: roughly half were against, half for

books.google.com/books?id=qeOEysQTpcoC&pg=PA137#v=onepage

Polish opinion on NATO intervention in FR Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War (1998-99) was mixed: 37% favoured involvement while 43% were against.[when?] The government decided in favor of a NATO-led operation to bring cease-fire in the conflict. During the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in May 1999, a poll found 51% felt attacks to be justified, 26% opposed. Another poll found 53% in favour and 35% opposed.

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]

Poles showed a lot of solidarity especially when Belgrade was bombed. One politician even said 'Today Belgrade, tomorrow Warsaw.' or something to that extent, meaning that at any point NATO/EU could do similar things to Poland. While today Poles aren't worried that tanks will start rolling in and bombers flying over our skies, we do see tons of interference in our domestic affairs from the EU - and while most Poles don't want to leave the EU they do not like the fact that they are talked down to, treated with no dignity, and worst of all are told who to take in, who not to take in, that we should amend our constitution to allow for gay marriage, all that bs. Poland won't give in though. There's a lot of things we'll compromise on with the EU but certain things are a big red line.

Intermarium would be the best thing to challenge the EU's hegemony. We have that with the Visegrad 4 which other countries are keen to join now - namely Italy and Austria or at least deepen cooperation. However, I don't think we'll see a change in borders. I highly doubt we'll ever have something like the Commonwealth again where Poland and fellow Slavs have a powerful country stretching from the Baltic to the black sea. One can dream though...

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A few of the nationalist groups and small political parties especially Zmiana are seeking to improve relations with Russia. Nonetheless, the majority of Polish society want nothing to do with a better relationship with Russia - especially the older generations which is understandable due to all the things that Russians did to Poles during these peoples' lifetime. The people who were wounded by communism, martial law, repression, etc. will never forgive Russia for that. Nonetheless, there are quite a few nationalist groups like the falanga/narodowcy that seek a good relationship with Russia and view Putin as a man's man - a strong leader who isn't scared to promote social conservative ideas like traditional families, patriotism, the country to be for the natives - not migrants, strong borders, not allowing the IMF and Zionist financial organization to control the banking system (ditto with media), and so on. Russia's state television, RT, has recently receiving a video calling for rapprochement with Poland and to law the foundations for a more amicable relationship. This won't happen though while PiS is in charge - anti-Putinism, anti-Russian sentiment is one of the cornerstones of their policies. It's kind of understandable though because their base includes many older people and rural areas which still remember how the Russians devastated Poland numerous times in their lives - WW2, the years after, the crushing of uprising and workers' strikes, repression, martial law, etc.

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That's not what numerous Polish people are saying. The numbers also prove that attacks and hate crimes against Poles have gone up. But of course all the people that are saying they've been harassed, attacked, etc are all lying right?

youtube.com/watch?v=_yhdLsfo8_Y
UK's Polish community targeted in hate crimes
This is from last year - not 2004, 2005...

There's been dozens of hate crimes against Poles - that's why Poland sent two officers to help prevent more hate crimes.

youtube.com/watch?v=JK28tlwIaxc From 2015
Why Polish migrants decided to strike in the UK
On Thursday, Britain had its first ever strike by migrants. It was called by a group of Polish immigrants to push back at being blamed for Britain's economic problems.

Also from last year - youtube.com/watch?v=fWckTi0fGQI
The Poles leaving the UK after Brexit - BBC News


Prove it. I've proven that there is a significant amount of hostility, verbal harassment, dozens of hate crimes, etc. against Poles. Keep putting on the rose colored glasses. I have yet to see any evidence from you that there isn't hostility, there were no hate crimes, and that the Polish people saying that they're harassed and verbally abused are all liars....

The Polish people in the videos above are saying the opposite of what you are... but perhaps they're also trolling and don't know what they're talking about...

youtube.com/watch?v=szjnEuGI2Ks
Brexit - «70% of Poles living here feel either uncomfortable or scared of what's going to happen"

NI and Ireland seems not to be too keen on Poles either -
youtube.com/watch?v=RLdQ9-nNeO4
Anti-Polish Loyalist's burn Polish flag on Bonfire

News / EU confirms it will take action against Poland over court reforms [554]

It's a shame that our Polish government recognizes Kosovo. Several European nations, I believe around 4 or 5 do not recognize Kosovo yet it doesn't affect their status within the EU/NATO. Shame that Poland isn't in that list. I wonder if PiS was in power back in 2008 if they would've recognized it or not. I think they would have either way though - especially if the Americans told them to.

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@Vigilance

Indeed. Problem is, like the great pilsudzki once said, poland is in a position where its standing on two stools and eventuslly will fall off one. If we leave nato/eu, Russia will take advatnage If we remain, germany and eu will continue to treat poland as a vassal state. Intermarium was the solution then and I believe it is now as well.

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This isn't an imaginary phenomenon. No, all poles arent like getting attacked once they step out of their house (britain isnt like south africa.... yet) BUT many poles have been told to go back home, speak English, that theyll have to leave after brexit, etc especially if they're speaking polish in a public area and some wanker, as you guys like to call them, overhears them and feels like talking down to some strangers. I personally didnt witness it in London as its a large diverse city, but it's there. All these stories whether CNN, daily mail, the Sun, express, BBC, whatever of poles being harassed and even attacked arent a figment of the imagination. The numbers show it too - attacks on poles have gone up not down.

Listen to the interviews with poles too - they plainly say that the attitudes towards them changed and many faced verbal harassment on the streets. A few were attackrd and some were even killed because they were a pole in brexit uk.

Of course its not all brits. It's the same thing in the US with the Hispanics. Many white americans especially those in blue collar jobs were very angry that a flood of people came into their country and felt their livelihood threatened. It's the same thing for the british plumber or carpenter as a pole will work twice as hard as them for less money. Same with those working in factories, agriculture, etc.

The sad thing though is that the brits dont recognize without the poles they wouldve undoubtedly lost the battle of Britain as their pilots were totally inept and ineffective. (Documentary on this called bloody foreigners). Poles saved their ass even after their betrayal and breaking of the mutual defense treaty. So I look at this as reparations. While I can understand why many brits arent too keen on a flood of poles coming in and those sentiments being evident after brexit, I can only encourage my fellow polacy to take the british jobs and send your earnings to poland, live off their benefits, abuse their nhs system, have the taxpayers fund your retirement in poland, have everyone in your family sign up for job seekers allowance - we wont get any financial compensation for the betrayal of ww2 and saving london for the luftwaffe so its up to poles to get even.

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@Miloslaw

Football sucks. Its the only sport where all the action is in the stadiums and not on the pitch. Most of the fans and nationalists that go to football games dont even go for the game but to beat the crap out of the other teams people, throw bananas at the foreign players, intimidate police, and unfurl banner proclaiming things like Polska Dla Polakow, Stop Islamizacji Europy, etc.

@cms neuf
Poles have been going back and forth to germany and uk for years and it won't stop. Students would go decades before polands eu entry to pick strawberries in Germany during their summer break. Nonetheless a huge chunk, id say probably around half dont plan on living in uk or germany for good. Theyre only there to make a higher wage than they would in poland and while each persons situation is a lil.different almost everyone falls into one or more category - they have family in pl they support, they come back to pl a few times a month to spend their money, they have an apartment in uk/germany but a family home in pl which theh view as their true home, or theyre saving up to retire in pl. I know this is bc i am a partner in a currency exchange. Summer is the best season with christmas and some of the other religious holidays pretty busy as well.

@Chemikiem
Polish patriots? So the 60k that marched in Warsaw werent patriots? I hate to break it to you but the vast majority of poles, according to CBOS, dont want muslim and african migrants. Wed rather be considered xenophobes, or perhaps even paranoid, than deal with cultural enrichment trucks and rapefugees. That's why poland hasn't had a single islamic terror attack or mass rape like cologne.

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Only time will tell. The pound did decline though - that was almost immediate but it's rebounding now. I bet a quite a few people made a hell of a return shorting the pound back in 2016

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So they're no longer in Brazil....


That is a RARE exception....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Brazilians#Polish_culture_in_Brazil

The State of Paraná still retains a strong influence from the Polish culture. Many small towns have a majority of Polish-descendants and the Polish language is spoken by some of them, although nowadays most Polish Brazilians only speak Portuguese. The city of Curitiba has the second largest Polish diaspora in the world (after Chicago) and Polish music, dishes and culture are quite common in the region. Curitiba was largely influenced by a mayor Jaime Lerner.

It's the same thing with the Poles in Haiti - yes, they do have some Polish blood but almost none of them speak Polish anymore...

youtube.com/watch?v=t03J7arwmbs
Authentic Polish Culture in Brazil? It's there but not as much as I had hoped!!

economist.com/news/americas/21710852-many-are-forgetting-their-grandparents-language-polish-brazilians-remember-their-culture
First sentence:

Polish Brazilians remember their culture - but many are forgetting their GRANDPARENTS language

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CNN on the side of Poles???? Wow. Now that I didn't expect.

youtube.com/watch?v=_yhdLsfo8_Y&t=11s
UK's Polish community targeted in hate crimes

Call it what you want but the numbers show that hate crime against Polish people have increased according to the Polish government.... So bad apparently that Poland had to send two cops to walk the streets in Essex.

youtube.com/watch?v=LqhhsdusVds
Polish hate crimes: Harlow community speak

After Brexit, Polish people starting feeling unwelcome in UK and many faced verbal attacks, some physical and a few even killed! But suuuure let's pretend like nothing is happening. That's typical of UK - there's no problems with terrorism, there's no Pakistani child sex trafficking rings, naaaah its a socialist utopia complete with bans on freedom of speech and fines for thought crime.

Oh and fyi - look at the comments in the vids ... nooo Poles and Brits get along juuuust fine. At least more and more Poles are leaving UK and even the Polish government launched a campaign to bring them back.

businessinsider.com/polish-deputy-prime-minister-calls-on-emigrants-to-return-home-2016-3

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It will still be an English speaking country - the only difference is that there will be more Hispanics, which personally I don't have a problem with as they're hard working people and I believe are overall a net benefit to society. They do the jobs that Americans - both white and black - don't want. In Chicago all government buildings have 3 languages as it is - English, Spanish and Polish. Most of the Hispanic youth speaks English as their primary language - not Spanish. That is typically limited to older generations who crossed the border and haven't learned English as there is little incentive as they live in communities where they can survive without it - much like the older generation Poles that came over before the 90's.


That's not what math shows. GDP was NEGATIVE in 2008 and 2009, 1.9% in 2010, 1.5% in 2011, 1.3% in 2012, 1.9% in 2013, 3.1% in 2014 (the only year where it was over 3% since the 90's) 2.2% in 2015 and so on - all BEFORE the Brexit vote... actually UK GDP was 1.9% and 1.8% in 2016 and 2017 (same as 2010 and higher than 2011) so clearly Brexit didn't have much of an impact on GDP.

In fact, the GDP growth in 2016 and 2017 was HIGHER than 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, etc and equal to 2010 and 2013... therefore your assertion that Brexit is the reason for UK's GDP decline is clearly false as it had lower growth years before Brexit. Also, post-Brexit GDP growth is equal to several years like 2010, 2013 (1.8/1.9%) which was before the vote PLUS 2016/2017 GDP was HIGHER than numerous years before Brexit - negative in 2008, 2009, 1.5% in 2011, 1.3% in 2012, etc.


Not at all - first off most Poles in Brazil/Argentina don't even speak Polish or care much for their customs as only the older generations that moved there like half a century ago actually spoke Polish and practiced the traditions. Ditto with South Africa - Poles stopped going to S. Africa once apartheid ended and most left due to the white genocide policies of the post apartheid government. Poles went to SA because back in the day you were given a house, a good job with a high salary, etc upon the condition you stayed for several years.


So not true lol.... there's two flights leaving everyday from Chicago to Warsaw. PolAms (those that actually speak Polish, were born there, keep the traditions and culture alive anyway) are well aware of what's going on in Poland. In the summertime tickets for coach cost $1.3k, $1.5k and up round trip due to all the people going to visit their families and friends over the summer.

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Guess I better get residency in UK while it's still in the EU. Why bother working when I can get a council house, benefits, health care, if the only thing I have to do to keep that is 'look for a job' ?

express.co.uk/news/uk/387308/Working-is-not-worth-it-Benefits-mum-rakes-in-70-000-in-welfare

Sweeeeet.... I wonder if I can just put on a wig, adopt my own cousins, and become a 'benefits mum' too

or even France since you get more money - 70% of 100k a year to sit at home? Sounds like a good deal to me...

vice.com/en_uk/article/3bjgak/happily-unemployed-france-876

no wonder these welfare states are in the toilet and having GDP growth that's less than inflation