Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


I see that, but I highlighted the most important point. And his point about the market falling at a slow rate and still being a bubble is wrong. A bubble bursting, is just that. The market has high prices followed by the "burst" which leads to lower prices. Dropping 40% since 2008 is not a bubble bursting. It is the prices steadily decreasing and they will soon level off.

The prices were hugely inflated in the first place---based on the amount of residential properties there were, now that the market is saturated it is a different situation.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


EXACTLY!!!

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


ok- but there are still those spouting off about a bubble when there isn't one and it is inaccurate.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

Just for your information...

Definition of 'Housing Bubble'
A run-up in housing prices fueled by demand, speculation and the belief that recent history is an infallible forecast of the future. Housing bubbles usually start with an increase in demand (a shift to the right in the demand curve), in the face of limited supply which takes a relatively long period of time to replenish and increase. Speculators enter the market, believing that profits can be made through short-term buying and selling. This further drives demand. At some point, demand decreases (a shift to the left in the demand curve), or stagnates at the same time supply increases, resulting in a sharp drop in prices - and the bubble bursts.

Read more: investopedia.com/terms/h/housing_bubble.asp#ixzz2IjrorDdd

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


I will continue to deny there is a bubble,because there isn't one- but you have your terminology wrong and don't know how to use it correctly. Good thing you are not a doctor.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

as buyers in Poland, it is a good time to buy. The market is saturated and sellers are having to lower their prices and offer bonuses. Only in areas that has little or no opportunity for development will the prices stay the same. Something like Powisle in Warsaw. The prices are still from 7,000 to 10,000 m2 for a flat--even in an old block.

USA, Canada / Differences in How Polish People Raise a Child and How Americans Raise a Child [149]

I used to have an assistant working with me. 21 years old. He was like a child. I actually just asked him not to come back to work and hired a girl who is proving to be much better.

I do think Polish mothers' over care for their boys.

My 13 year old girl has started taking the city bus by herself. It makes me nervous but she is able. I can also track her on her iphone and I make her call me. It is more for my nerves than hers. It is a step towards responsibility and independence--which is the ultimate goal, no?

Obviously not all parents are over caring- but I have seen loads and it is particularly with boys. They are taught to be whiney sucky babies. We have neighbours on three sides of us who have 1 boy each and all three of these boys are so pathetic. We can hear them through the walls crying. All the time.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]

I am not lying to promote anything. I am not in real estate. In Poland people lie, in the rest of the world their are laws against it.

no, me having a husband in real estate gives me perspective of what actually goes on in the market. not what is written in a biased article.

my real estate knowledge comes from having a husband involved in real estate as well as owning and selling various properties in Poland.

Prices are not collapsing. They are declining steadily. big difference. particularly to investors and buyers.

it is not my ridiculous definition. it is a definition that has been posted here, time and time again by wikipedia. not by me. If it deflates at a slow rate then it is, by definition, not a bubble. a bubble pops. hence the name bubble. so if once the market hits its peak price then slowly declines it is not a bubble. which is what it is doing now.

Poland is not experiencing a bubble.
It is experiencing a slow and steady decline which is a world of difference for buyers, developers and sellers. Not to mention a saturated market as compared to the market when prices were at their peak.

but then again, if you had real knowledge about the market then you would know this. just because you believe something, doesn't make it true, but keep going with the bubble theory- it looks like this bubble bursting theory has been going on for years......


exactly, if it were a bubble then the prices would be a lot lower- a lot faster.
In Warsaw, I have seen some flats for 4100 pln m2. I am willing to bet they will go as low as 3800, maybe even 3500 in some areas. Praga could see 3200. And that will be as low as it will go.

USA, Canada / Differences in How Polish People Raise a Child and How Americans Raise a Child [149]

not autistic.

I am not going to list all of the times I have seen a parent spoon feeding their children. I see it every time I go to a restaurant. The above example was the first one I thought of.

Maybe you don't notice it because you are Polish and it is common for you, but I can tell you as a foreigner who has worked with children, it was one of the first things I noticed here about parenting.

Work / Job Offer in Gliwice at 4000zł – is it enough money? [17]

honestly, it isn't a lot of money. You could do better. keep looking or ask for more money. the school probably low balled you.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


clearly you are a fecking idiot if you don't know the difference. Do you own a flat? do you own anything? are you in real estate?

don't bother answering, I already know that you don't and you aren't.

so everybody, please listen to what? and English teacher in a secondary city of Poland as opposed to somebody with real estate knowledge and experience.

And this is why we own property and are not in debt and you do not.

USA, Canada / Differences in How Polish People Raise a Child and How Americans Raise a Child [149]


actually, I am not. and I have seen it on more than one occasion. we were at a restaurant where the mother was feeding her 10 year old son while my 4 year old daughter was using a knife and fork.

I don't think it is over caring. I care for my children and I am happy to do so. What it is - not fostering independence. Is that not the goal of every parent? to teach your children to be independent and critical thinkers? That is my goal. Not so that they are dependent on their parents for the rest of their lives. Teach them self help skills so that they are able to make up their own minds. In Poland, it is almost like parents want their children to have to need them for the rest of their lives.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


oh please. do your research and you can see for yourself. I have never denied that prices were going down. NEVER. Go back and look at everything I have posted. I have said from day one that there will be a steady decline, which is what is happening. NOT A BUBBLE----which is not happening.

And what industry doesn't depend on lies? Politics? Medicine? Sales? tell me, please.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


sorry, but it is important. There is a huge difference between a steady decline and a bubble bursting. And that is basic economics.

And nobody has ever said that the prices were not going down. not ever. But there is no bubble and that is a huge difference.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


But what people are posting here, with no real estate knowledge or experience, is that the market is going to explode like it did in the u.k or in u.s.a. It will not happen. There will be a steady decline then it will hit a point --it will not crash like the so called experts are saying here.

and many people also need to understand that Polish real estate is an enigma. It doesn't follow the rules of the rest of the world....otherwise it would have exploded by now.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


we are actually neither. and we bought in 2009/2010.

USA, Canada / Differences in How Polish People Raise a Child and How Americans Raise a Child [149]


not any more.

I think my opinion of American society is best expressed with the whole Lance Armstrong fiasco. It is ok to lie, cheat, steal, and corrupt as long as money is involved.

I also think Poland is a society of complainers who b!tch about their country but do nothing to help fix the problems.

With regards to the original post--- I live in an expat part of Warsaw, I see Americans every day. Yesterday I saw this woman with two bratty children running around the grocery store screaming at her kids. She was so loud I was embarrassed for her.

But then my main problem with Polish parents is the baby talk and spoon feeding until a child turns ten. And I am not exaggerating. Polish parents teach their children to be dependent on them far too long.

so, there is no right way but I know what I don't like from each country.

Real Estate / The current property boom in Poland is a bubble [342]


good grief, any idiot with a brain could have predicted a drop in prices. But there is no bubble. The prices have been slowly decreasing. Which, by definition, is not a bubble. A property bubble is defined as a sharp increase followed by a massive drop, kind of like jumping off a cliff.

Travel / Starbucks in Poland? [149]

don't worry, they will saturate the market and Poles will enjoy it. then Walmart will come.

Language / Native-speakers for Young Children in Poland - effectiveness in learning [15]

why thank you. I believe that language is really important. People spend loads of money having their children learn a second language and then there are those that can't be bothered. Our kids are bilingual and it didn't cost us anything.

Language / Native-speakers for Young Children in Poland - effectiveness in learning [15]

yes, we are from a French speaking part of Canada as well her school does a foreign exchange with students from France which she will do next year.

Language / Native-speakers for Young Children in Poland - effectiveness in learning [15]

yes, they are learning French.

When we lived in Canada English was dominant. My youngest amazes me- she has never lived in Canada and speaks like a native speaker including idioms, jokes, slang, phrases- same in Polish.

It has taken her a longer time to learn how to read in both languages- she is 8 and she is still having some problems but prefers English. I don't have issues with how quickly she learns, just as long as she does learn and enjoys reading.

Language / Native-speakers for Young Children in Poland - effectiveness in learning [15]

6 of one, half dozen of another.

There can never be a set in stone rule book. What works for one may not work for another.

My kids are bilingual. From birth my husband has only ever spoken Polish to them and I have only ever spoken English. They go to a bilingual school. They speak English with no accent and Polish with no accent. They speak better English than some of their teachers- but I don't care- we cannot expect people to speak perfect English--since it really is a world wide language there will always be different accents and pronunciations- what is important is that people are able to communicate with each other and be understood.

I worked in a school that taught English with two different teachers. One hour was grammar with a Polish teacher who spoke English and one hour was with a native speaker in order to get the sounds and connotation right. This was a pretty good system.

Work / Possibly moving to Warsaw- husband offered a job in Warsaw [21]

cold is all relative. I was in Canada for xmas--we had -30 C with the windchill, here so far I think the coldest we have had in Warsaw was -13. That is downright balmy. I might even put on my winter jacket.

Work / Possibly moving to Warsaw- husband offered a job in Warsaw [21]

Warsaw is an ugly city, there is no way around it, but once you appreciate the battles it has gone through, only then you can understand why the people here are the way they are and the construction and infrastructure is such a clusterfcuk.

Work / Possibly moving to Warsaw- husband offered a job in Warsaw [21]

Warszawski,

good point, I always forget the legality of expats because I am married to a Pole.

I think she does need to be sponsored by a company or something similar- she needs the work permit.

Another alternative is doing freelance design work via computer.

Do ask what schools offer with regards to work permits. Some schools may find your offer interesting because you will already be living in the country as opposed to hiring from abroad.

Work / Possibly moving to Warsaw- husband offered a job in Warsaw [21]

Warsaw is a great place to live, I have lived here for a total of 11 years. Try to find something in the international schools first. There is the American School, the British school and the International European school that are the best ones. The French school is also good.

I would stay away from the private language schools - the competition to work there is a bit higher and most often the hours are not that great.

Life / Do people not have "Christmas Dinners" or "Easter Dinners" in Poland ? [9]

I actually think now that Poles are starting to do a turkey dinner on the 25th- I have no proof of this, just our experience of trying to hunt down a flipping turkey in December. I think that as Poles are starting to return to Poland they are bringing a few traditions back with them.

Life / Is it me or do people "seem" to live longer in Poland? Life expectancy among Poles. [52]

well, my grandmother is 92 so suck it.

Real Estate / MNE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY , LOFTS, U SCHEIBLERA, LODZ [36]

good luck- stick it to them.