Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]


You jest, right?

Or is it one of those situations in which an Arabic person is treating foreigners like complete suckers?

Egyptians are very well known for seducing dumb and naive women ( nowadays mostly women from Eastern Europe, Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, that lot ) in order to gain EU residency. They are also not above blatantly lying to such women to get cash ( they text them to send 3.000 dollars because the Egyptian guy's mom is supposedly ill, lol ).

Here's a documentary that deals with it ( first part, links to parts 2 and 3 available there ):

dailymotion.com/video/xh17oj_darling-i-lowe-ju-1-3_lifestyle

Here's the ( extremely funny due to the level of absurd, only available for Polish speakers ) link to the topic about "Egyptian lovers" on the Polish forum for women called "kafeteria". It got closed after the documentary I linked was released, but the old content is still available:

forum.gazeta.pl/forum/f,24864,Faceci_z_Egiptu.html

Basically Egyptian guys are notorious for using women from Eastern Europe as tickets to the EU. Also, they hardly ever pay ANY child support, because back on planet Earth where we all live people in Poland earn halfway decent wages and people in Egypt get paid in peanuts, fish scales and bird droppings.

So Egyptian guys employed in Egypt usually don't pay alimony to their Eastern European "brides" because THEY CAN'T BLOODY AFFORD IT.

So don't feed us bullshit.


Again, you either write blatant lies or have no knowledge of the topic whatsoever.

The average price of an apartment in Warsaw, Cracow, Wroclaw, Gdansk or any other major metropolitan area in Poland is such that a person employed on an Egyptian wage will not be able to purchase one even if that person worked for 50 years. Last time I looked at the real estate market in Mokotow, Warsaw, the pads were pretty much as pricey as the ones in Miami, Florida. You don't see many Egyptians buying those either.


Right, that would be a first.


And that of course you find all fine and dandy, but if a Polish girl's lawyer has the audacity to actually have court summons sent to Egypt then it is of course, an outrage.


There is nothing to help "your friend" out with here, a ruling of a Polish court, even a one establishing some alimony payments is, as we both know, hardly worth the paper it is written on in Egypt and the peanuts "your friend" earns are VERY safe from that Polish girl, as long as he earns them in Egypt and not in Poland or the UK.

She probably just found some sucker in Poland willing to take her in after her "Egyptian vacation" and needs to get the divorce done asap with some judge signing off on the sentence that will say her ex-husband is fully liable for the dissolution of marriage ( "orzeczenie o pelnej winie" ) so that her freshly-found Polish sucker is satisfied.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]


Key word: here. Outside Poland's borders most employers rate SGH along with low-tier British unis.

But you are right on the money, if he wants to go for an MBA which will offer him a shot at employment in Poland SGH is the way to go.

I doubt they admit people based on "I'm from India and I really want to study" though.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]

And you decided to resurrect a dead thread to tell us that?

Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]

1. It is a commonly known fact that US nationals who study medicine in Poland are there because they either:

a) can't afford it in the States,

b) weren't able to meet the entry criteria to any US-accredited institution. That usually means their test scores were way below the median and too ****** to gain acceptance into med schools located in the Caribbean ( I think these are getting shut down at the moment, warning call for foreigners studying medicine in Poland ).

2. With that in mind anyone studying medicine in Poland probably has precious few options available in terms of moving with their studies elsewhere.

In my opinion such people shouldn't complain about the reality of living in Poland then, I mean seriously you could have studied harder for the MCAT or whatever it is called nowadays.

3.


Yes, obviously having a throng of non-polish speaking med students treat you like a diagnosis mannequin sure as hell increases the recovery chances, especially when we're talking about older patients.

Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]


Yes, the kid clearly has an attitude.

Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]


Exactly.

I'd fully expect a hospital which would practice such shenanigans ( foreign medical students attending patients without a qualified translator present ) in the States to get sued for all they had.

Life / What is wrong with Poznan? [197]


Lol, I'd like to see that in the U.S., a foreign medical student barely able to say a few words in English allowed to "attend" to patients without a qualified translator present.

Yes, there is quite a lot to worry about for Polish patients here, so please be so kind and don't brush them off.


Very true.

Life / Poles hard working or just born lazy. [58]


Again you're missing my point. Compare and contrast what you can actually buy in UK or US for 2 minimum wages ( a working couple ) and what you can buy for the same w minimum wages in Poland. Start with gasoline, next look into real estate prices.

Once you do that you might actually realize what the problem is.

Life / Poles hard working or just born lazy. [58]


That's the problem, you wrote about something that has little to do with Poland and the issue of people in Eastern Europe screwing their employers over when they make minimum wage.

Life / Poles hard working or just born lazy. [58]


I've given employment to quite a few people in my lifetime.

And coming from that, if you're going to pay the absolute minimum don't expect people ( in Central or Eastern Europe of all places, where it was common in the commie days to just sit around all day drinking tea while "at work" ) to work their asses off for you.

People will not apply themselves when they are getting minimum wage, period.


I'm afraid you're not quite aware how the reference system "works" in Poland.

Simply put, it is a sham. People will get glowing references on account of being their bosses current squeeze/cousin/whatever and at the same time hard working people will get no references at all because their boss simply doesn't have to write them for them.

While looking for professionals in Poland I go by word of mouth and recommendation, not any kind of references.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]

Yes, I mentioned it rarely happens nowadays in case of Polish women and wrote that they usually go along with the thing knowingly ( tough to believe that anyone would honestly expect 50k-60k sterling for waiting tables ).

Then some Polish person took offence and all hell broke loose.

Talk about opening the floodgates.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]

a.k. -

The language commonly used on this forum happens to be English.

So please be so kind and translate your last post so everyone can understand it. In regards to the stuff you wrote in Polish I again am forced to ask you to take your assumptions and shove them up your arse.

Regarding the English part:


Why the hell would poverty make it to our discussion otherwise? Unless you're captain obvious and you like to enlighten us about the fact that rich women rarely resort to prostitution?


As someone was already kind enough to explain to you, that wasn't really the case. Even if she was, the "yo momma" makes no sense here whatsoever, I already explained why.


Bullshit. You were trying to use the typical Eastern European "excuse" for bad behaviour ( which is "my neighbours steal too" ), got caught doing so and now you're trying to wiggle out.


If you actually bothered to read what I write you would have noticed that I mentioned most Eastern European girls in the U.S. prn biz are from Czech Republic and Hungary, not Poland. Polish women, on the other hand, are rather well represented amongst London's prostitute population.


Sure, nobody in Poland knows these Polish girls who work the prozzer scene in London.

They must be flying in from Chicago, South America or something.


Again, if you actually ever took the time to read anything I post here without frothing at the mouth you'd know where I derive my knowledge of Poland and its people from.

Wulkan -


Thank you, finally a sensible opinion.

I never claimed to write about all of Poland's female population.

I'm merely stating some facts, that's all. It isn't really a state secret in the UK that Polish women do have a worse reputation than, shall we say, Indian women.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]


This is really going down typical street or avenue we've-been-there-before.

Every time there's a discussion about certain facts regarding women from Eastern Europe ( it is a fact that a surprisingly high number of prn girls active in the U.S. come from Eastern Europe ) someone from this area of the world shows up and:

1) Pulls a "yo momma" to intimidate people from Eastern Europe. So for the umpteenth time - when a Polish guy says that a lot of women from Eastern Europe work in brothels in London this has nothing to do with his momma. Also, a given Polish guy's momma has f.u.c.k. all to do with women from Poland/Ukraine/Czech Republic doing pûrn movies in the States or whatever. Why the hell does this "argument" keep returning? Where is the logic?

2) Starts generalising about people who have a different opinion ( I don't date women from Eastern Europe for a variety of reasons so your "theory" is "kula w plot" as they say in Poland ). So take your guessing and shove it up your arse, I'm entitled to my own opinions.

3) Claims that poverty is a good reason to become a prostitute. Interesting morality to say the least.

4) Claims the usual thing and accuses people from the broadly defined Western World of lacking morals, ethics, being promiscous, etc.

Again, based on a weird Eastern European mentality which makes stealing ok as long as your neighbour does it. So it is all good for Eastern European women to be prostitutes in London, because London, you know, isn't really much of a moral town, wink, wink, nudge.

No logic, again.

In regards to this particular argument I also have to say - anyone Polish who uses this argument and considers the "West" bad, please pack your bags, move to Belarus and start writing in bloody Cyrillic.

None of the arguments above make any sense whatsoever, so I will not argue with them.

Bottom line here seems to be that few of the "defenders of virtue" who protect "their" women here have a hard time accepting that a visible number of women from Eastern Europe are materialistic slags.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]

Why is it that every time someone mentions the suspiciously high number of women from Eastern Europe visible in the pûrn biz/sex biz some Polish chick comes along and throws the "yo momma"?

Seriously, that's very retarded.

Compared to their respective populations many countries from Eastern Europe are home to a surprising number of pûrn stars for example. Not talking about Poland so much now as about Czech Republic, Ukraine or Hungary. It is a well-known fact.

So why the ********?

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]

^^ The title is misleading.


"Best" prostitutes in Poland don't work the roadsides. They sit around posh apartments in downtown Warsaw waiting for a call, then they get a taxi and go to the client's place or another swanky apartment in Srodmiescie or Mokotow which serves as a "meeting place".

They are also rarely more than 30 ( the woman from the article is 43 years old ).

These reporters just caught two "tirowki" and wrote down their fairytales.


Ekhm.... Child services anyone?

That "mother" should be facing criminal charges.

Life / Poles hard working or just born lazy. [58]


It all boils down to options.

No other options = everyone will take the package to put food on the table. It doesn't mean these people will work efficiently, because in their own minds they'll just be screwing back the employer who is screwing them.

You pay peanuts, you get monkeys, nothing new here.

Life / Poles hard working or just born lazy. [58]


Couldn't have phrased it better.

And all that for a decent price, if I might add.


I'll try to unravel this puzzle.

Last time I checked, the minimum wage in the UK hovered around 6 quid.

Polish minimum wage is officially around 1.500 zloty/monthly, which comes down to 8 or 9 zloty per hour ( 1.7 bob ) if one works a 40 hour week. And a lot of people get paid less or work illegally or other shenanigans.

A lot of Polish people in the construction industry in the UK work very hard because for the first time in their life they're seeing adequate money for their work.

Seriously, if someone offered me 1.500 zloty per month for working a construction site I'd take every chance in the world to slack off.

Life / Reaction regarding Pakistanis respected in Poland [54]

Aaah, you mean the freshly minted Pakistani-Poles...

All is clear now.

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]


She's just a typical Polish female and rating men the way she does comes naturally to her, that's all.


Well, they can die off for all I care if they're stupid enough to be with women who are willing to dump them the moment a foreigner comes along.

Life / Reaction regarding Pakistanis respected in Poland [54]

Just a little problem with that reasoning.

Oddly enough Pakistanis living in the UK find it very difficult to move anywhere else permanently. I don't know why, since many of them remind us on a weekly basis how horrible a country we are and so on.

Still, they fail to leave.

I don't see them moving to Poland anytime soon, all the people so desperate for a Polish visa are just their cousins from Pakistan who missed out on the gravy train to Blightey.

Work / Chartered accountant from India joining a company in Poland. Cost of living in Poznan? [29]

I'm terribly sorry but "represent a client in court" is rather difficult to misunderstand.

I can have a boy who shines my shoes called to the stand as well, that doesn't make him able to represent me.

Life / Reaction regarding Pakistanis respected in Poland [54]

I'm under the impression that BBman meant - go to any country other than Poland.

Other than that, there aren't that many places that accept pakistanis with open arms nowadays ( UK is cutting down on pakistani immigration ) and Poland will soon follow suit.

In the meantime, could you care to explain why is it that it is always pakistani guys that come over, not the girls?

Their chains aren't long enough for them to leave the kitchen in Kandahar, is that it?

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

polmed - I guess we have a case of "uderz w stol a nozyce sie odezwa" as they say in Poland :). Ok then:


And what exactly is "deplorable" on part of the gents in this particular case? Are Polish guys to be criticized because 30% of the time their women promptly dump them for English blokes after a couple months of "emigration" and living in low-rent accommodation in a bad part of Sheffield?

No sane person would do that an no sane person will expect Jan Kowalski from Bialystok to out-earn Tommy Smith, born and bred in Britain, shortly after coming to Blightey.

Or maybe we should diss English guys for embracing the fact that a visible amount of the Polish female population in the UK is simply throwing themselves at their feet? What's their fault in this?

Seriously, I don't see the "evil male" angle you're trying to work here.


Try 30% sister. Women from Eastern Europe have a reputation for a reason. I've personally seen quite a few smart, well educated Polish guys get dumped by their Polish girlfriends after coming to the UK solely on the basis of money. And it wasn't even about potential earnings, it was about Tommy Smith owning/renting a bigger apartment. It was a simple choice for them really, current bf is on 45k a year and has to buy/rent a flat, buy a new car and in general is just up and coming, prospective bf owns a flat, has inherited some savings, is on 55k a year. That was all it took for these "educated" Polish women to jump ship. Women from Eastern Europe usually want here and now and will not wait for anything.


I take it you jest, madam.

You have "med" in your nickname, which probably means you're in the medical field. That puts you within the top 10% earners on this forum, so you're really in no position to complain about "salary differences".

Chances are that if you're a U.S.-based doctor you probably cleared 250.000$ before tax this year.

However, the fact that you include money in the equation is VERY telling.


And - something you madam have yet failed to grasp - the "status of an immigrant" doesn't include being considered less of a man by women of one's own background in most cultural circles.

Indian people for example are well known for sticking to their own, even if it means living in a small flat directly over a family-owned curry restaurant business for 5 years.

I could go on and on, but the point is Polish blokes are really getting the short end of the stick in terms of how their women treat them once abroad and that's hardly one of the mysteries of the Orient.


I could name a number of them, with addresses and all. And their "new" women were/are, in some cases, great eye candy.

But so what?


Please be so kind and quit ordering me what to do. You're not in a position to do that.

I'm a, shall we say, seasoned Jewish gentleman of quite a few years and not some teenager from Poland that's going to bend over if and when Polish mommy tells him to.

Oh, and Ian - don't even read half the gibberish from this thread about whether or not you're English and all that. Screw the haters and do what's best for you and your lady.

Cheers.

Work / Chartered accountant from India joining a company in Poland. Cost of living in Poznan? [29]

CMS, I'm terribly sorry but you did post something I can't agree with.


There are two types of jobs that give one the legal right for representing parties in court in Poland. Both require a law degree and 3 years PQE training, then there's the local bar exam.

People without a law degree are unable to represent clients in courts in Poland, period.

If you know the legal basis for them to do so, by all means please enlighten me.

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

Yes, obviously, because the main issue here is whether or not he's a native speaker...

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]


polmed - I don't think you quite understood the message I was trying to convey.

I was commenting on this:


This sums up perfectly the "thinking" of many, many women from Eastern Europe --> they're extremely practical and consider it completely natural to go for the guys "who can provide" ( or, to be blunt, guys with money ). This is all sooooo obvious for you : immigrant = less money, local = more money, simple choice.

All of the above based on the ridiculous assumption that a guy who got off the boat yesterday can and should be compared money-wise to a guy whose family lived in the target country for generations and amassed wealth during that period. And of course this assumption comes rather naturally to Polish ( and other Eastern European ) women, no pause for thinking here as well.

Compare and contrast to Chinese women, Indian women, English women, Pakistani women, Jewish women and a number of others as well -for some odd reason they can actually stay with guys from their own cultural circle as they work their way to the top. Polish ( and other Eastern European ) women very often offer little to no support to their men during emigration.

Little wonder then that Eastern European women in many countries are often seen as materialistic slags who will **** at the drop of a hat once they see the money

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]


Typical "polish female" thinking. Materialistic in the extreme.

Wonderful how you expect guys from your own country who got off a Ryanair two weeks ago ( I take it you're Polish ) to "provide" on the same level as guys born, raised and educated in the UK who usually inherited money to boot.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]

Polish women are hardly anything special. Even in Eastern Europe both Ukrainian women and Czech women ( some would also say - Hungarian women ) are a lot prettier.

Basically Indians ( and Pakistanis and God only knows who else ) figured they are no longer that often accepted into the UK so they go for residency in countries that haven't caught on to their tricks. Poland is a very good target.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]


Yes, obviously, the Republic of Georgie is the hot place to be right now, with the recent Russian Invasion and all...

Listen to cheesy's advice... go to Georgia on the double.

Love / Married in Poland, now wanting divorce, does she have rights to half my earnings? [67]


You must be lying, a Polish woman would never do that. Polish women are Roman Catholic and adhere to a strict moral code.

Are you sure it wasn't an English girl pretending to be Polish?

Ok, enough with the sarcasm.

Get a very good ( = expensive ) family law solicitor in Poland right now, pick a guy who practiced in the jurisdiction of the court that will rule on the case.

Otherwise your chances of seing any fair % of that money back anytime soon are very slim.