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mafketis   
5 Sep 2019
Travel / Maybe visiting Warsaw next summer - or to choose Bulgaria? [26]

lake Balaton feels like one and who needs a sea when you have it?

They also have thermal baths of various kinds... my personal favorites include Rudas in Budapest and the Barlangban Furdo (Bath in a Cave) in Miskolc but there are tons more....

No matter how you feel going into a thermal bath... you feel like a million bucks when you're leaving...
mafketis   
23 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

...and used 99% by old women with just two front teeth.

More signs that you're not Polish - diminutives are used by everyone and not at all restricted to old women. You can't go a day in Poland without hearing lots of men and women use them.... (not necessarily the same ones but that's part of the richness of the system).

Speaking straight in full, clear sentences is how I show respect to others

A sterile robot's view of language, no heart, no soul, just function. How horribly dull it must be to be you.... yechhhhh
mafketis   
23 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

that there are far more words in the English language than in Polish

English speakers have the best modern tradition of lexicography (making and maintaining dictionaries) but there's no evidence that English speakers actively use more words than do speakers of other languages, just that reference dictionaries are thicker and more full of words no one uses...

Expressiveness is entirely subjective - native speakers are biased toward the expressiveness of their language and can find other types hard to understand..

As a translator (Polish to English) my most common problem is that there is no good equivalent in English (or not enough alternates in English)

English doesn't have those sick Polish verbal tumors that only old women can create. Like: noga, nozka, nozeczka

You got no soul, Rich...diminutives in Polish are extremely expressive and can give sentences subtle emotional coloring that's very hard to achieve in other languages...

But non-Polish non-native speakers like you often don't get them... rozumek malusieńki
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

Not so in Iceland, Turkey

A few years ago a Turkish university student said he couldn't understand textbooks written 30 or 40 years ago (a result of the excesses language reform)

And modern Turks can't understand Ottoman texts (even if they know the Arabic alphabet or if the Ottoman is latinized).
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Law / Penalty for driving on expired license in Poland? [30]

I am still waiting for my karta pobytu

I have lived in Poland legally for 4 years

What's the hold up on the karta?

The office is making up their own rules

Welcome to Poland, the law as written is important but often (usually) written ambiguously and open to interpretation and the only interpretation that matters is the one used by the person looking at your case, which is where people skills are useful - being generally charming and affable (with a hint of firmness) so that they want to interpret things in a way that benefits you
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

I know she's Georgian because I asked her where she was from :-)

That's a very anglophone thing to do and I used to do that before I found out that lots of people from other cultures find it very rude and insensitive, and in countries which were communist within living memory it could set off people's warning systems so I avoid it now.

old duffer told me that my Polish should be better after all the time I've spent in Poland

Czy ma rację?
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

in the 90s there was quite a community of Armenians

Armenians have historically assimilated pretty thoroughly in Poland (unless they're just commuting or if Poland is a stop on a road leading further westward).

A bit of googling suggested that things are still pretty chancy in Georgia and tensions with Russia remain high (a good lesson for those posters here who want Poland to re-enter the Russian orbit and become a vassal state again).

I think it might be just that, better connections and Georgians looking for an easy plan B in case things really go south....
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

I don't recall what I liked in Poland, so I left.

Then why hang out in a place where people like Poland and the Polish language...

And of course real native speakers internalize the difference between ty and pan/pani very early and don't have to learn it and even if there are ambiguous situations are excedingly unlikely to find the distinction bothersome

your complaints are the type that english speakers are more likely to have

dropped pronouns because I don't like confusion

then you must hate english spelling.... how are each of the following pronounced?

tear

read

live

wind

record

address

pretty confusing.....
mafketis   
22 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

I think it has more to do with the even more sizable Ukrainian

Well the people in the Georgian bakery I sometimes go to are definitely not Ukrainian (their Polish is often not very good but not in ways typical for Ukrainian or Russian speakers).

The place I went to in Warsaw had music playing that sounded.... I'm not sure what it sounded like but not what I would think Georgian music sounded like (though I have no idea what Georgian music would sound like....) the rhythms sounded Bulgarian at times.

I was just wondering if there's been some kind of systematic migration of Georgians to Poland or it's some other group like Chechens (they from what I know they don't seem like the hardworking in a store type....)
mafketis   
21 Aug 2019
Food / What's up with all the Georgian food in Poland now? [12]

Where I live a couple of Georgian (gruziński) bakeries have opened up but I was just in Warsaw and Georgian food places were all over the place... I was staying close to the station and I counted something like 8 within easy walking distance of my hotel...

Is this going on in other cities? I looked a little and can't find much information on why Georgians are suddenly interested in moving to Poland... Or are they not Georgian at all (the way that 'Chinese' restaurants used to be run by Vietnamese and the first sushi places were run by Koreans)?

Anyone got any info on what's up?
mafketis   
21 Aug 2019
Language / WHY THE HELL CANT I LEARN POLISH?? [64]

I mean that "ass" thing

your bvtt fixation is a curious phenomenon...

why would a native speaker have contempt for their own language?

it happens, but such real cases don't play out like Rich's fairytale... rejection of a native language isn't that rare among immigrants - but usually for purely pragmatic reasons related to assimilation and not poor ability or dislike of the structure... rusty native usage of a language also has certain characteristics all of which are sorely lacking in RM's use of Polish...
mafketis   
21 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

that single letter "a" at the end of "powiedzial" can easily be missed in writing, reading, or hearing.

By non-native speakers (and/or very poor learners) maybe... the idea of a native speaker thinking 'powiedziała' doesn't indicate gender very clearly is.... just very strange.
mafketis   
21 Aug 2019
Language / So why did you give up learning Polish? [105]

most Poles believe their language is the most difficult in the world

which is not true.... classifications by the US government are based on years of experience in bringing adult native speakers of (American) English to fluent levels in various languages.

In the traditional system (four levels) Polish is level three (hard but not as hard as Chinese or Arabic or Japanese). In a three tier system it's level two.

Of course for speakers of other Slavic languages it's pretty easy and a Russian speaker can achieve communicative competence within a few weeks.

For Asians or Middle Easterners it's going to be more difficult....
mafketis   
21 Aug 2019
Food / Adwokat vodka with egg yolk [16]

if yolks were unfresh.

No, just too much too soon (it was a commercial variety)

that party when you mixed pickled cucumbers with cherry jam?

I'll just say that this was before I realized that the combination wine and vodka (in that order) was..... not a good idea.
mafketis   
20 Aug 2019
Food / Adwokat vodka with egg yolk [16]

Advokaat is a tasty liqueur.

the first time I had it I thought "wow! this is great!" prompty drank too much and have hardly been able to look at it since, I have an even worse żubrówka story that I will spare you...
mafketis   
19 Aug 2019
Travel / Maybe visiting Warsaw next summer - or to choose Bulgaria? [26]

For me Baltic Coast is better

I actually like the Bulgarian beaches, a bit saltier than the Baltic which seems almost like a lake... and I like Bulgarian food and wine and rakija, even Bulgarian beer is very good (IIRC some early breweries were set up by Czech monks)

Warsaw is probably more interesting than Sofia (though I haven't been there yet).
mafketis   
15 Aug 2019
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

It starts with "Ch..."

Ziem, someone might accuse you of being obscene...

I was going to ask "And does it rhyme with 'mój'?" But good taste got the better of me.... for a while until you wrote that...
mafketis   
14 Aug 2019
History / Why do schools teach "The battle of Warsaw" but not "the history of communist Poland?" [16]

Isn't it about time Poland faced up to it's recent history and stopped ignoring it?

First, I agree with doug, sometimes I mention something from the communist period and students have no idea what I'm talking about, they know lots about the kings and WWII but the period 1944-89 is a black hole. From asking, it seems that there's a lot of variation by school, some schools cover it to some extent but most high schools mostly give it only the most cursory of attention.

There's still an ideological war going on behind the scenes about the narrative of what happened during communism.... and any version will please some people and drive others into a blind rage and so the safest thing is to ignore it.

The government of course has been trying to.... put a particular spin on the period with the cursed soldiers as shiny heroes and Lech Kaczyński as the single most important anti-communist (kind of nonsense, but....)

But also, what do teach about Wałęsa? Heroic opposition figure? Secret agent for the commies? Church puppet?
What about 1968.... anti-semitism for the sake of anti-semitism or vicious intra-party struggle?
Martial law... misguided effort to prevent soviet engagement or crude power grab?
Who was responsible for domestic repression? Soviets? Jews? Poles?

History is less about isolated facts but more about a story and no one can agree what the story of communism was...
mafketis   
12 Aug 2019
USA, Canada / I have an OLD Polish passport (live in the US now) [13]

You have to be Polish to get it

It must be exhausting and dispiriting to be wrong so often about the country you pretend to be from.... how do you deal with that?

obywatel.gov.pl/dokumenty-i-dane-osobowe/uzyskaj-numer-pesel-dla-cudzoziemcow