News / Will eight million Polish people flock to the UK now that we are going for a hard Brexit? [38]



Does it need refurbishing? Clearly you haven't wandered the streets of Kensington and Chelsea, or Hampstead or Chiswick or Little Venice or St John's Wood or.................there are chunks of every large city that need refurbishing but London as a whole is in pretty good nick and the gentrification of places like Islington has been going on for decades now.

News / What impact will Donald Trump's election have on Poland? [331]

Absolutely true Wincig.

He wanted to build a wall up to 4.5 metres high, along a protected stretch of beautiful Irish coastline to protect his precious golf course from flooding. He shouldn't have put a golf course there in the first place, the ignorant chump. He recently abandoned his plans for the wall citing EU bureaucracy as the reason and claiming that the EU was hindering Irish development. The actual truth is that the local planning committee in Co Clare refused his application. No doubt he thought that because he's Donald Trump he could throw his weight around in the same manner he would do State Side. I'm sure he was quite surprised to be told 'no'.

The man is completely unsuited to political office but he's just another in a long line of similar characters who dominate American politics. I can't see how his election is of any benefit to Poland.

Love / Should I follow her? I met a beautiful Polish woman who has been working in the UK [62]

Brit Abroad, I would say go with that gut feeling. Incidentally I'm an Irish woman married to a Polish guy and we've lived both in Ireland and Poland, so I understand your situation. My husband is great but it's definitely not easy to adapt to life in Poland.

Love / Should I follow her? I met a beautiful Polish woman who has been working in the UK [62]

Salaries in Poland have improved a lot depending on what kind of job you do. The main problem for the OP would be the language which would limit his possibilities.


What does she mean by that exactly? Poland is not a society that encourages people in their thirties to go to college or improve themselves. It's still a country where people tend to marry young and have kids in their twenties and by the time you're forty you're considered 'old' or certainly very much middle-aged. She spent seven years in the UK which does encourage people to get educated, qualified etc. Did she take advantage of that? Did she get any qualifications and experience that will improve her prospects when she returns to Poland? If not, then, to be honest, unless she has good connections, she won't be able to do it.


Well it certainly mean that she sees herself as 'separate' from you and not as part of a couple. Couples make decisions together after a lot of talking, discussing and compromising but she's basically already decided what she wants to do and you can either go along with it or not, she's leaving that choice to you.


Once again, that suggests she's not really thinking as your life partner, or half of a couple.


If she really means that, then just forget her, in fact buy her a ticket and send her on her way now. She might just be playing games with you though.

Look, I don't mean to sound horrible, but she's in her early thirties, she wants to settle down and have kids asap. It didn't work out for her in the UK, she didn't find Mr Right. Polish women can be very business like and she won't waste any more time faffing about. She wants to get on with it but, and this is very significant, she doesn't want to return to Poland with YOU. You would be a liability. You don't speak the language fluently (or at all?), you would have to adapt to the culture (which is very different to the UK), you would need a lot of emotional and practical support for a year or so and might never really settle there. It is far easier for her to go back on her own and find a Polish guy who's sorted with his job etc. Polish people don't go in for long engagements or living together for years, within a year of meeting someone she'll probably be pregnant and he'll be delighted. So, I'd say, if she wants to go, let her and accept that it's over.

News / American GIs troops finally in Poland and, thank God, there's more to come [480]


He is sometimes anyway.


Oh he does know people in Poland.


Polly, to my knowledge, had Polish parents, which makes him Polish.

Polly's thing is upholding a kind of mythical ideal of Poland as a bastion of Catholic conservatism, pre-Vatican II style. It's intended for the Pol-Am community really and he lays on a bit thick here to get up the noses of a few other posters.

Feedback / This forum should have section under the exact title - Business [23]

You're inferring that those whom he knows are 'weird' and 'left wing' by virtue of the fact that they think this site is full of right wing nutters.But you see if people dipped into it at random and saw some of the stuff posted here, that would a reasonable conclusion to draw. All that holocaust denial and anti-Semitic stuff from Adrian, anti-homosexual stuff from Polly etc. Those kind of views are at odds with how most ordinary people think nowadays.

Feedback / This forum should have section under the exact title - Business [23]

Don't we all? :)) It's impossible to avoid the weird of the world.

I just realised that I didn't suggest a business form, Crow did and I seconded it.

Feedback / This forum should have section under the exact title - Business [23]


I wouldn't associate the word 'looney' with Dominic of all people. He's about as down to earth and sensible as they come. Pity he went more towards the academic than the consultant based end of medicine. He'd make a lovely surgeon, a very comforting sort of presence. 'Now then Mrs McGinty, you're in safe hands, we'll have you right as a trivet in no time at all'

Now what's the theme of this thread again, ah yes, Business. Well it was I who suggested a business forum on foot of Crow's thread about Indian/Polish business possibilities.


Wouldn't be coming here, agreed. However it would really just be a place to organize all business related posts on the forum. Part of the filing system if you like. After all there's one for work, so why not for business.

Law / Polish Will and how they stand in England. [3]

There are three or four kinds of will in Poland and one of them is a notarial deed which seems to be what you have. Here's some information on them:

notariusz-piaseczno.pl/en/notarial-activities/drafting-notarial-deeds

As you can see, it should supposedly have the signature of the testator (the person making the will) as well as that of the notary. You would need to consult a solicitor about this really.

History / Whats the French Huguenots history in Poland? where did they settle Poland? [16]


Very true.


Also true :))


Now what's interesting is that in Poland that was certainly the case. Huguenots were essentially Calvinists and Calvinism never really caught on in Poland except among the upper classes.


Prawda!

Genealogy / Any information would be greatly appreciated - Jan Orlowski "Kawaler Orderu Virtuti Militari" [2]

I checked and I found him on a list of recipients and it appears that he was a Major. There was no other information.It was possible for an entire regiment/unit to receive the award. In UK records he showed up in 1961 living at 26 Bath Street in Rugby and working as a clerk. Also living at that address is Stefanie Orlowski, birth place Poland (so maybe his wife?) working as an assistant cook. You could go along to the street and see if anyone remembers him and knows anything about him. He only died 25 years ago so there would certainly be people in the area who are in their sixties/seventies/eighties now and might have have known him. He may have had children who still live locally. Your best bet is to search locally first.

About ten years ago a book including a full list of all recipients of the Order from 1792-1992 was published by a Polish-American, Dr Zdisław Wesołowski. His contact details were:

Dr Z P Wesołowski
PO Box 291465
Davie FL 33329 USA

The book cost 75 dollars - yikes. But if you wrote to him he might just check the list for you as a courtesy.
He's also on LinkedIn:

linkedin.com/in/zdzislaw-p-wesolowski-prof-dr-40227011

Here's an extract from the book:

home.golden.net/~medals/vm_stats.html

News / Ukrainian nationalists desecrated the graves at the Jewish cemetery in Poland [12]

It's not the first time Jewish graves in Poland and elsewhere have been desecrated. It's been happening sporadically for decades. Back in 1998 graves were desecrated in the Jewish cemetery in Warsaw and the following year anti-Semitic slogans were painted on graves in the Jewish cemetery in Tarnów. There's quite a history in modern times of anti-Jewish graffiti and that kind of thing. And more recently:

2014
tabletmag.com/scroll/165267/jewish-gravestones-destroyed-in-poland

2015
algemeiner.com/2015/12/16/jewish-cemetery-in-poland-vandalized-graves-covered-in-antisemitic-pro-isis-graffiti

2016
sztetl.org.pl/en/cms/news/5078,jewish-cemetery-in-gdansk-vandalized

israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=34055

It's an ongoing issue pepetrated by a minority. It's not so much to do with them hating Jews as just being morons. If there had never been any Jews in Poland these idiots would still find something to smash, destroy or defile for amusement.


Excellent point Harry.

History / Whats the French Huguenots history in Poland? where did they settle Poland? [16]



Those two statements are quite different. The second one is more accurate but still a bit of a stretch. As Ironside says the nobility comprised only a small percentage of the population. Nobility always tended to favour the established religion and generally the religion followed by the Monarch was that of the nobility as clearly that was in their best interests, financially, socially etc. The Huguenots themselves only accounted for about 5% of the French population.

But in any case it's misleading to say that 'Huguenots were nobles'. Some of them were, but as a whole they were largely middle class and associated with skilled crafts and trades as their history abroad shows. I think you'll find this interesting:

oldbaileyonline.org/static/Huguenot.jsp

News / Poland, Slavic world and India - The Way of Business [5]

I have a feeling this thread will end up being merged but you make a good point. There could be a section of the forum for business/commercial activity in Poland. It's a good idea.

This might interest you, Indian-Polish Chamber of Commerce:

ipcci.pl

History / Whats the French Huguenots history in Poland? where did they settle Poland? [16]


They weren't nobility. They were prosperous, industrious,middle class business men, craftsmen and artisans.


They came to Ireland. There are still people in Ireland with Huguenot surnames and there is a beautifully preserved Huguenot cemetery in Dublin city centre. The people today who bear Huguenot names are largely Catholic as they gradually intermarried with the locals.

Life / Pomeranian/Fluffy Dogs - where to buy in Poland? [6]

Just be sure that you will be in a position to offer this dog a permanent home, especially if you adopt one from a shelter.

News / Polish Wigilia on UNESCO's world heritage list? [30]


Well it is for at least a half day as indeed are most shops in Poland on the 24th. However in the UK on Christmas Day, the 25th when Christmas is celebrated, shops are closed all day and only a handful of MacDonalds are open.

News / Polish Wigilia on UNESCO's world heritage list? [30]


As does Christmas Day in the British Isles. You're implying that Brits spend their Christmas in MacDonalds and have no traditions.

Look, it's like this. For practising Christians in Britain and Ireland, the festival is a combination of religious observance and 'merry making'.

So the widely observed traditions are: midnight mass on Christmas Eve or a Christmas Eve service of Carols such as The Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols from Kings College, Cambridge. All over the UK churches have similar services. Home to bed following midnight mass, up at the crack of dawn.

If you didn't go to midnight mass then it's off to church. Many Anglicans attend both the midnight service and Matins or a communion service on Christmas morning.

Presents are opened on the morning of the 25th. When I was a kid, our Christmas stockings were at the end of the bed when we we woke up with small gifts which we could have straight away, then off to mass, and the main presents when we got home, watch the Papal blessing on telly.

Christmas lunch, usually turkey or a roast fowl, traditionally accompanied by cranberry sauce, a roast honey glazed ham, followed by Christmas pudding always set alight before being carried aloft to the table, mince pies and brandy butter etc. Christmas crackers are pulled and hats donned. General hilarity ensues, here we go a wassailing!

Afternoon nap, telly, maybe a walk, then afternoon tea and the ceremonial cutting of the Christmas cake (rich fruit cake iced with marzipan), then it's often board games or some kind of party games anyway, many Irish families would have a sing song, music, etc. Stay up until all hours. Bob's your uncle.

News / Polish Wigilia on UNESCO's world heritage list? [30]




That's because Christmas in the UK is celebrated on the 25th. The main meal and celebration at which extended family gather takes place on the afternoon of the 25th. However there are many families in the British Isles who gather on Christmas Eve. Socialising on Christmas Eve is a tradition in the British Isles but it takes different forms. and often involves going out or meeting up with friends. For example I know a teacher in her thirties and every Christmas Eve she and six of her old school friends meet up for dinner. They've done it every year since they left school and have continued the tradition even though most of them are now married. Christmas in Britain and Ireland is very much a time of reunions and gatherings of different kinds.

Work / Information about jobs for Indian students in Poland [286]

Ok I took a quick look at the British College website - it's a total waste of your money in my opinion. The English on their site is not that of a native speaker and there are no details at all about the staff. The 'message from the Principal' is simply signed 'Principal', no name, nothing and has various errors in syntax. In the English of a native speaker, this place is what we'd call a mickey mouse operation. If you're going to spend money coming to Poland try to study something finance related at a reputable college.

Work / Information about jobs for Indian students in Poland [286]


Why do you want to study English philology? To be honest, your level of English is not good enough to do a Masters in the subject. You'd be better off sticking with accountancy and taking some kind of MBA or advanced qualification in the field where you already have experience and qualifications.

News / Poland refuses to give jobs to British [19]


Remember the perv in the park in Dirty Harry "My name is Alice and I'll do anything for a dare' :D


He doesn't even speak English by the sounds of it.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

At the moment they do. Who knows what the future holds? I'm not suggesting that it'll turn into a complete facist dictatorship but it could end up being a bit of a mess like Italy. Poland is not politically mature yet if you understand me. There's no reason why Poland can't be a middle ground poliitcally neither right wing nor leftie liberal but unfortunately that's not in the Polish nature I think. They like clear cut opposites.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Yes I knew that Dolno. The date was definitely chosen deliberately to make a point. I think the point being made was that in their view, a generation on, democracy is under threat again,(not that Poland was a democracy then of course but you know what I mean) Poland is in danger of turning full circle and is gradually becoming a police state with a totalitarian government.


Anyone with the most basic education should know their dates of significance to Poland's recent history in particular. Just like any low-life thicko in Ireland has heard of 1916 and broadly understands its significance, nobody in Poland should be unaware of the country's historic milestones. If they are then that's a failure of past governments and society in general.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

The BBC said it was 50,000! I'd say the real number is probably somewhere between the two extremes so Jon could well be right. Do you really believe the police give the exact figure Dolno? Sorry just realised that was the Saturday march and Jon was talking about yesterday which I saw estimated somewhere at 60,000. I don't know about that but Mr Atch couldn't get his tram home from work due to the disruptions and had a fair old walk.

Love / My Polish Girlfriend Broke Up With Me Very Suddenly, Did She Use Me? [23]


Hi there LGO. We need a nickname for you - LifeGoesOn is just too long! How about Phoenix, you know, rises from the ashes, and you will :)

Anyway as to the question. There's a certain level of prettiness that results in that behaviour. Not stunningly beautiful, that can put guys off, they tend to think 'there's no way she'd be interested in me', so often the really gorgeous girls don't get that much attention. The girls who are just 'pretty' and seem approachable along with it get a lot of attention from guys. So they know how easily guys are seduced by their appearance and they feel they can get away with any behaviour because their looks are enough to keep the guy interested.

I saw a very interesting programme years ago where this 'pretty girl' syndrome was being discussed and one of the theories was attractive looking people, particularly women, don't need to develop their character as fully because their looks carry them a long way. So they tend to remain a bit childlike and self centred. Certainly when I was working in recruitment years ago, I was able to place attractive looking girls in jobs, that they really weren't well qualified for, because of their looks, especially if it involved working with clients or the public. I know because employers told me a few times that they'd chosen the candidate because of her good looks, dress sense etc. whereas some poor girl with a typing speed of 120 words a minute but legs like tree trunks or the slight suggestion of a moustache on her upper lip, got left in the slush pile!


Well she was probably happy at the time so she was being her best and sweetest self.


Now, now, stop that, she was never perfect. She just appeared to be.


Well that's not so. It would be more accurate to say that without fluent Polish, you would find it difficult to get a job in your field. The language is definitely a stumbling block. Although Polish companies are very keen to employ people with English, they really want Polish candidates with English as an extra. For the most part the language of communication is Polish and the English of Polish professionals varies. Many of them don't speak fluently though they can read and understand pretty well. So they're generally going to hold meetings etc in Polish and you would be way out of your depth. Now the only time you would be considered without reasonably good Polish, is if you were a very senior engineer with many years of industrial experience and had something to offer that they had been seeking and couldn't get from a local applicant.


Of course she's absolutely wrong.

Now a final word of advice, before I go about my business for the day - Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat and 'My Lady' may be getting a bit bored with her current choice of boyfriend. This is the time of the year when tempers fray and it's well known that couples often break up over Christmas and New Year. It's also the time when we get all sentimental and warm and fuzzy and forgiving to those who've trespassed against us........... So, if she's in England, then it's quite possible that you may hear from her over the holidays. Enough said. I don't think I need to tell you what to do, or rather NOT do. But, I will anyway! Do not under any circumstances be tempted to meet up for a drink or anything like that, you know where it will lead. New Year festivities are a dangerous source of ' oh a new year, a new beginning, we can start again and make it work'. And by the end of January she's back with the last boyfriend or moved on to another one.


You will for a quite a while. It was your first love so it really hurts. Just take it a day at a time. And with each day that goes by, it becomes more and more in the past and you get stronger. Very few people end up spending the rest of their life with their first serious girlfriend/boyfriend, so you're not alone. It's just another rite of passage in life that most people have to go through. That's actually made more of a man of you than the sex part, that's just a form of aerobics really isn't it? :D Maybe that's why My Lady has had so many partners, if she wants to be a personal trainer she needs to stay fit!


You're very welcome Phoenix - any time. Glad to be of some help. God Bless.

News / What will drive Poland after 2020 - when Eu funding dries up? [96]



There was no automatic freedom of movement for the new accession states when they joined the EU in 2004. Ireland, Sweden and the UK were the only three EU members to open their borders in 2004 allowing Poles and others to work legally.

UK, Ireland / How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here? [474]

Another Brexit legal challenge - this time with Ireland as the defendants! The whole Brexit thing is becoming quite surreal. An English QC has raised the 70 grand he needs (through crowd funding) to bring a case against the Irish state, yes the Irish state if you don't mind. Basically using the Irish high court as a back door to the European court. The unmitigated cheek. The thinking is that we won't want to get involved in the matter in any depth so we'll pass it on to Europe.

According to the Irish Times, 'The case has been taken to Ireland in order to be heard by another EU member state, with a similar legal system to that of the UK. It will argue that Article 50 may have already been triggered and so other EU nations have broken the rules by not engaging in negotiations with the UK about withdrawal'.

The Irish government is joint defendant with the European Council and the European Commission. What really infuriates me is the fact that this QC chappie, who's making use of us (bet he's never even been on holidays in Ireland) made some ludicrous speech about the people of Ireland deserving a government who will look after their interests. Bog off and keep your nose out of our affairs, thank you very much. Brexit is not our fault, we didn't vote for it and we don't need a British barrister telling us how to run our country or what we need from our government. Ah, I feel much better now!

It might be time to start a prawdziwy Brexit thread here???

Language / Polish inscription in a book for a loved one [35]


Well my grandparents used that word to describe a somewhat effeminate man and I'm certain you're not that! As for niminy piminy it isn't widely used, probably not in the last hundred years anyway, I just love vintage English expressions.


It's a bit of fun though isn't it? The old parry and thrust of the verbal exchange!
By the way as an ultra-refined lady (almost niminy piminy in fact) I would personally be delighted if I discovered through the grapevine that a gentleman was making tentative enquires about the correct way to inscribe a book to me and I wouldnt' think he was being at all indiscreet. (If I were single that is but I already 'gots me' a lovely Polish husband) Anyway as I said best of luck.

Language / Polish inscription in a book for a loved one [35]


EuroBrit, you surprise me, you do really. Niminy piminy is an English expression (as in UK) meaning exaggeratedly prim or refined. I first heard it many years ago in Notting Hill Gate, used by a teenager actually, though in fairness her Pater was a proper toff :))


Or people who don't know you either it would seem! Are you sure you don't have Irish blood ' you'd want to be very careful now, you wouldn't want people knowin' your business'.


Well it is a very public place and sadly respect is in short supply around here to boot. I don't understand why you didn't just make up a name, something similar in spelling for the purposes of getting the grammatical case. You do come across as terribly stuffy and serious, perhaps you are, but you're probably a very nice person and I wish you the best of luck with your lady. By the way I also would think that 'ukochany' is over-egging the pudding a bit. It can translate as 'beloved' and only an established couple would tend to use that phrase.