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Trevek   
3 Jan 2010
Genealogy / Missing/unknown letter in my great-grandmother's last name. Any ideas? [34]

It could be that the letter of the name didn't work on a US type writer. Might also be a problem that the handwritten version of the name wasn't readable either. I know of a few instances where family names have been changed, even between siblings, because an official couldn't spell properly.

Are their any numbers on the application? Perhaps an address? This might make it easier to trace through regional records offices.
Trevek   
3 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

Mind you, most foreigners don't get English intonation, which is why we now have so many natives ending all their sentences with an upward intonation like the Australians do.

There was a well documented case in a London airport some years ago where the Indian women working in the workers canteen had a bad relationship with the mainly white british airport staff. Neither side knew why the other side was so rude and aggressive. The workers claimed the woman were sullen and aggressive, pointing at food and stating, "potatoes, meat, carrots" in a way that suggested 'take it or leave it". Subsequently the workers felt they were being treated badly and became aggressive in return.

It turned out that the Indian women were using Indian intonation, which goes down on a closed question, rather than up (as in English). So, they thought they were saying "(do you want) Potatoes?" but because the used a downward intonation it came out as an aggressive statement, rather than a polite question.

I tell my studes this story when we start practising intonation and stress.
Trevek   
3 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

English in this respect is by no means easier to master than Polish or any other language.

I think an important point to consider here is that Polish actually gets taught in Polish schools, so people often can speak a standard version of the languiage. In UK kids (and adults) make mistakes my Polish students wouldn't dream of... and nobody notices!

It's not - it strikes me that English is absurdly easy to learn and even easier to get away with making hideous mistakes in, because even the natives are destroying the language quite badly.

Exactly. The thing with English is that native speakers are often more used to hearing it used badly and so it isn't a problem. It's easy to use English with dodgy pronunciation and poor grammar (like the natives do). In Poland folk aren't so used to hearing L2 speakers, especially learners.

I remember jumping on a bus and asking for a bilet normalne... ("Słucham?")... bilit normalni... bylet normalne... only to be greeted with non-comprehension. It was only when i screamed "Jestem głupi cudzoziemniec i nie mowię po Polsku!" That it dawned on the driver that the two words i was trying to use (beginning with a B and an N... whilst rying to buy a bus ticket) must be 'bilet normalny'. Although how he understood it when i didn't use correct grammer ('jestem głupim cudzoziemcem'... is that better?) i don't know.
Trevek   
2 Jan 2010
Life / Britains got talent vs mam talent [15]

He wears the fcuk shirt on other programmes too. Trying to look cool... makes him look a complete a$$hole.

I think the one I saw him with was the 'Who the f*ck is mick jagger?" i wonder if it gave him a thrill wearting it infront of little kids.

Mind you, I had to agree with Cowell during the international Idol competition when he referred to KW as "that cretin from Poland".
Trevek   
2 Jan 2010
Life / Britains got talent vs mam talent [15]

Huh? the first BGT is full of different things. The last final had dancers, an escapologist and singers, and there were loads of different acts in the heats. The first series of Polish MT had almost copycat acts... including the dancing dog!

Mind you I wonder why that prat Kuba Wojewodski thinks it's so cool to wear a t-shirt with F*ck written on it. I wonder how many Poles would find it fun and cool when Simon Cowell wears a T-shirt with K*rwa on it.
Trevek   
31 Dec 2009
Language / WHY THE HELL CANT I LEARN POLISH?? [64]

Keep studying but don't expect real progress until you're in Poland.

This is pretty important. I learned more Polish in a classroom in UK because there I was talking in Polish. These days I find almost all my time is with students and/or people who want to practice their English... result, my Polish is still crap after years!

A sports club or something where you are using real conversational language is a great idea.
Trevek   
31 Dec 2009
Work / Salary for Teaching EFL in Krakow [120]

Can someone give me the address of a school that pays upwards from 50zl per lesson?!!

I get more than that in Olsztyn.
Trevek   
31 Dec 2009
Work / Salary for Teaching EFL in Krakow [120]

turtleonfire,was you set on fire when offerd this job,If not watch it you might get mugged during your lessons, Go to the UK you will earn more

Don't believe it. I found summer work i paid than my Polish work in backwoods Olsztyn.
Trevek   
31 Dec 2009
Work / Salary for Teaching EFL in Krakow [120]

Notbad wages, i suppose (not sure of krakow ones but it is ok for where i am up north). You might be surprised how many daytime privates/business offers you might get.
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

I have no problems with Jews at all. For as many b@st@rds who are jewish there are probably just as many or more who aren't.
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

some people passed humanity exam some not.

ah, the same story everywhere, my friend. I like that phrase.
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

I don't know what else he said, Jola. he made the quote in reference to Gross's book about Kielce etc. I think he was focussing more on the point that the so-called pogroms were more about money and less about ethnicity/religion.

Somewhere I have a reference that points out the Post-war Jewish culture in Poland actually thrived for some time, with a rise in Jewish literature, Yiddish press etc.
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

Interesting quote on the almighty wikipedia page for Jan T Gross:

Marek Edelman, one of the leaders of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising said in an interview with the Gazeta Wyborcza daily, "Postwar violence against Jews was mostly not about anti-Semitism, murdering Jews was pure banditry."
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

According to the blog 'Poles loaded Jews onto 'gas trucks'...I thought it was 'gas ovens'...Which is it?...Maybe Poles never loaded anybody onto anything...

I've just read Laurence Rees's book on Auschwitz and the Holocaust. One of the things which keeps cropping up is how Jewish prisoners were made/expected to assist with the 'processing' of prisoners for transportation, selection and eventual murder. Some of the (Jewish) people he interviewed worked with the Sonderkommando or cut the hair of prisoners about to be gassed. They were often asked by the prisoners themselves, "How can you do this... how can you help them?" They admit that all that drove them was a desire to survive.

Likewise, ghetto police (Jewish) or such people as Rumkowski, the 'king' of the £odż ghetto saying "Give me your children!".

Interesting how when gentiles do such things it is because they are 'anti-semitic' but when Jews do it they are trying to survive.

Another point which Rees brings up, through interviews, is the handling and 'theft' of the property of gassed prisoners, not only by the Nazis but by the camp inmates themselves (Jewish and gentile). Once more, the case is made that it was about survival. And who can blame them... but this is a matter of human nature, not a matter of whether or not someone is Jewish, gentile or whatever.

It reminds me of a scene in the film "Defiance", where a peasant (Polish, I believe) is shot because he allegedly allowed his cart to be used to transport Jews. Can you imagine the ideal scene of what he should have done...?

Nazi officer: "We need your cart to transport Jews to Sobibor to be gassed!"

Poor Polish Peasant: "nay, foul nazi, begone, I will not aid thee in thy anti-semitic ways!"

Nazi: "Oh, OK, we'll ask someone else, we respect you views..." (exit nazi).


Errrm, somehow I don't think the scene would have worked too well.
Trevek   
30 Dec 2009
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]

Well...I'm sure some Prussians lived also in Van's (maybe not for so long though).

Why build a house when you can go to germany and steal a German van ;-)
Trevek   
29 Dec 2009
Life / Russian Language - is it offensive if I speak it to Polish people? [69]

I'd try English first, especially with younger people, simply because a lot of youngsters don't know Russian. Perhaps the older people will be happy to use Russian, particularly if they don't speak English. I find it with German, many older people automatically speak to me in german, even if I try speaking Polish to them.

I was teached that hidden truth the hard way in France long time ago, when I tried to use English without warning :-)

Haha, yes. My boss at the language school (He's Polish) complained to me that he'd been to France and asked for a menu in English and found the waiter unhelpful. I cringed at his story. I had to explain that the French are pretty proud of their language and there are only three ways to converse with them... NEVER just ask if they speak English.

1) Speak fluent French,

2) Speak such bad French that it hurts their ears. They will suddenly develop great English. They are more likely to reveal their English if they feel you are trying to respect that they are French and speak French (fair enough, really)

3) Speak any other language (except maybe German) and make it clear you don't speak French. They might then ask if you speak English.
Trevek   
29 Dec 2009
UK, Ireland / Polish people in the UK using the English version of their name? [56]

It cracks me up when some of the girls try to use anglicised versions of their names, particularly when in English it is quite an old-fashioned name.

I remember a couple of young girl scouts telling me their names were 'Agnes and Martha'. I told them not to do it because they sounded like a couple of 90 year old maiden aunts.

Agnieszka sounds cute... Agnes sounds old. Agata sounds good... as opposed to Agatha, which makes Miss Marples spring to mind.

Funny thing, tho', my wife's name is Aneta and nobody can get it right... Annette, Anita...
Trevek   
28 Sep 2009
Genealogy / Genetic difference between Poles and selected others. [83]

Considering Poland must have shagged a fair bit of Europe in its history, and likewise been involved in some homeland inter-ethnic shagging (Scots, Dutch, Germans, Swedes, Lithuanians, Old Prussians, Mongolians, Gypsies etc), how do you actually define a genetically ethnic Pole (as opposed to a culturally ethnic Pole)?

Insert (ooer!) any other nationality in that question.

Oh, and aren't Aryans supposed to have come from India? Bloody foreigners!
Trevek   
27 Aug 2009
Work / TEFL Jobs in Poland - your success story? [16]

I just cold called and just walked into several schools. Got a job with the best in town (even as unqualified newbie), did a year and got CELTA. Been with them ever since.

Cold calling (or even ringing for an interview) gives both you and them the chance to meet and make a few impressions first).
Trevek   
27 Aug 2009
Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]

Having studied some Macedonian before I came to Poland I found some vocab was easier to learn/understand BUT there were also a lot of "false friends".

Example "utro" in Macedonian is "morning". "Godina" is "year". When I started with polish I kept these mixing up with "jutro" and "godzina". People got a bit puzzled when they asked me how long I'd lived in Poland and I said "jedna godzina", or being asked when I had arrived somewhere, I'd answer "jutro".
Trevek   
25 Aug 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Of course, the word 'brat' in English means a (horrible) child.

The first couple of minutes of this film show a possible etymology for another kind of brat-wurst.

youtube.com/watch?v=mHpPKwRMDPk
Trevek   
25 Aug 2009
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

If we had a cross cultural sausage it might clear things up. As "brat" is Polish for brother and wurst is German for sausage, we could call a Brat-wurst a "brother sausage" and usher in a new era of cross-cultural understanding.

Although the Germans might complain they had the wurst end of the deal (joke might only work in English)
Trevek   
24 Aug 2009
Work / Advice on Teaching English in Poland [709]

I was thinking about doing the course here in canada first in my spare time

Just a thought, we had a Canadian working at the school where I work in Poland. He had taken some kind of correspondence course, however it turned out not to be as well recognised as he thought (it wasn't CELTA). The firm I work for are affiliated to an organisation called PASE (Polish Association for Standards in English). They did not recognise his certificate.

Whichever course you take, DO check it's international standing.

For many schools it might not be a problem, but some better ones might be more choosy.

I know some schools will offer any upcoming vacancies to students that have passed thier CELTA at the same school. I also think a school in Poland would be able to give you much more advice on getting a job in Poland than one in Canada.

Agreed. I did my CELTA in Warsaw alongside a girl who'd been guaranteed a job in a Bell school if and when she passed her CELTA (also at the Bell school).
Trevek   
24 Aug 2009
UK, Ireland / Poland continues to milk Ireland dry. [129]

I work in the hospitality sector.

Obviously you have done such a good job that Ireland looked so appealing to all those damn foreigners that they decided not only to visit but to stay ;D

Fair play.

I'll second that.