Bratwurst Boy
17 Aug 2018
Bratwurst Boy
17 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Depends...
Yes, the welfare usage of asylumseekers/refugees is above those of the natives. But mainly because they face hurdles to get to work and earn their bread. After all they are not about to be integrated in the first place but to be expected to return to their home countries at one point.
But no, the welfare usage of work immigrants is low, lower and sinking. After all the economies they migrate into are laborer-starved and wait for them with open arms. There is rarely a reason to keep lying in the welfare net. Not to mention that these people rarely have any claim to any but the most minimal support, if at all (if they come from outside the EU that is, the brown skinned muslim kind you surely mean).
bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/EN/Publikationen/Forschungsberichte/fb01-einfluss-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
That's why there is talk to make it easier for humanitarian migrants to change into the labor market and get them out of their camps...at least in Germany. Even if that means to change their status to economical migrants, which is hotly discussed right now.
Anyone with an iq above the sub saharan average can see that migrants draw benefits at a greater rate that natives
Depends...
Yes, the welfare usage of asylumseekers/refugees is above those of the natives. But mainly because they face hurdles to get to work and earn their bread. After all they are not about to be integrated in the first place but to be expected to return to their home countries at one point.
But no, the welfare usage of work immigrants is low, lower and sinking. After all the economies they migrate into are laborer-starved and wait for them with open arms. There is rarely a reason to keep lying in the welfare net. Not to mention that these people rarely have any claim to any but the most minimal support, if at all (if they come from outside the EU that is, the brown skinned muslim kind you surely mean).
bamf.de/SharedDocs/Anlagen/EN/Publikationen/Forschungsberichte/fb01-einfluss-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
That's why there is talk to make it easier for humanitarian migrants to change into the labor market and get them out of their camps...at least in Germany. Even if that means to change their status to economical migrants, which is hotly discussed right now.
Bratwurst Boy
17 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Saudi Arabia is not comparable to any western economy. Without their oil they would still be a few clans of nomadic bedouins wandering behind their camels across the desert.
All they have depends on them selling oil, and that age is coming to an end. That is not a real economy in any sense. They are not producing anything. Let's see what they become once the green tech countries are losing interest in buying.
I agree, I also have the suspicion that some things are mixed up in this discussion...
Saudi Arabia where everything is run by foreigners keep them well paid and on short leash
Saudi Arabia is not comparable to any western economy. Without their oil they would still be a few clans of nomadic bedouins wandering behind their camels across the desert.
All they have depends on them selling oil, and that age is coming to an end. That is not a real economy in any sense. They are not producing anything. Let's see what they become once the green tech countries are losing interest in buying.
Seems to me that you mixing - some emigration or migration of professionals and a mass immigration
I agree, I also have the suspicion that some things are mixed up in this discussion...
Bratwurst Boy
17 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
That's the concept that survived...the socialist alternative proved to be unfunctional and lost. So...till there is some other working concept developed we are stuck with it...
Oh and green tree huggers are not necessarly always economical lefties...at least in Germanys.
That sick 'growth at any cost"
That's the concept that survived...the socialist alternative proved to be unfunctional and lost. So...till there is some other working concept developed we are stuck with it...
Oh and green tree huggers are not necessarly always economical lefties...at least in Germanys.
Bratwurst Boy
17 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
I did never claim prosperity stems from immigration. It's a consequence!
As you know our economies need to grow to keep and grow the wealth. A non-growing economy is already shrinking = losing wealth.
So, once a capitalist economy is being build up and starts running it needs more and more people to build more and more goods for it's people and customers to buy and consume more and more.
In Germany we called that "Wirtschaftswunder" during the 60ies and started to import Turks like no other...that's how it all begun. And that's the same cycle you can observe with any other up and running economy...now even a "communist" one like China!
Your claim that there is the only path that leads to prosperity is just ....wrong.
I did never claim prosperity stems from immigration. It's a consequence!
As you know our economies need to grow to keep and grow the wealth. A non-growing economy is already shrinking = losing wealth.
So, once a capitalist economy is being build up and starts running it needs more and more people to build more and more goods for it's people and customers to buy and consume more and more.
In Germany we called that "Wirtschaftswunder" during the 60ies and started to import Turks like no other...that's how it all begun. And that's the same cycle you can observe with any other up and running economy...now even a "communist" one like China!
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
If it's Döner it would had been immigrated from Berlin! :)
If it's Döner it would had been immigrated from Berlin! :)
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
"cultural suicide" of course...dammit edit function!
Why no talk of "cultural society" here?
"cultural suicide" of course...dammit edit function!
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Don't confuse workers with refugees...and they are rarely "taken", they are just coming.
Many millions of foreigners came to Germany during the last decades. They came for work and
many stayed for life.
So many that in a few years there will be as much as non-native Germans as native Germans.
Over 60 nationalities and ethnies are now the make up of Germany, by fare the most of them are European.
Alot of them Poles. To have a 'ski in your name is abit a necessity for someone from the Ruhr Territory
or Berlin...
Why no talk of "cultural society" here? Why this obsession with the compared few muslims?
Again clearly the variable is from WHERE you take in migrants.
Don't confuse workers with refugees...and they are rarely "taken", they are just coming.
Now if w Europe wishes to commit culture suicide fine,
Many millions of foreigners came to Germany during the last decades. They came for work and
many stayed for life.
So many that in a few years there will be as much as non-native Germans as native Germans.
Over 60 nationalities and ethnies are now the make up of Germany, by fare the most of them are European.
Alot of them Poles. To have a 'ski in your name is abit a necessity for someone from the Ruhr Territory
or Berlin...
Why no talk of "cultural society" here? Why this obsession with the compared few muslims?
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Not really. As you know China is huge and has over a billion people, more than any other country on Earth, surely more than enough laborers for every occasion one might think....but:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_in_China
We are talking about many, many millions of people here, migrating from the land to the building cities for work.
And still, they are starting to import laborers...the numbers of foreign immigrants is rising...astounding, isn't it? And if China, with it's own abundance of people needs to import workers, how do you think ANY country can become and stay successful without them?
Well...once you got a skilled foreigner for your company, he want's to get his family to live with him...wife and children...who need an education...and medical care...and he might not always keep his job.
They are people too!
China ...granted permanent residency to 1,576 foreigners in 2016...
Not really. As you know China is huge and has over a billion people, more than any other country on Earth, surely more than enough laborers for every occasion one might think....but:
Internal migration in the People's Republic of China is one of the most extensive in the world according to the International Labour Organization.[1]....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_in_China
...Of the 440 million increase, about 340 million was attributable to net migration and urban reclassification.
We are talking about many, many millions of people here, migrating from the land to the building cities for work.
And still, they are starting to import laborers...the numbers of foreign immigrants is rising...astounding, isn't it? And if China, with it's own abundance of people needs to import workers, how do you think ANY country can become and stay successful without them?
China smartly makes a distinction between skilledforeign workers and welfare immigrants.
Well...once you got a skilled foreigner for your company, he want's to get his family to live with him...wife and children...who need an education...and medical care...and he might not always keep his job.
They are people too!
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Erm...okay...tell me one successful country that thrives without importing laborers and having an all around immigration!
Apropos China:
scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2137058/new-immigration-bureau-set-handle-growing-number
That's the nonsense the globalist here and in Europe spread.
Erm...okay...tell me one successful country that thrives without importing laborers and having an all around immigration!
Apropos China:
New immigration bureau set up to handle growing number of foreigners in China
scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2137058/new-immigration-bureau-set-handle-growing-number
It comes as Beijing ramps up measures to attract more skilled foreigners to China for work....
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
No, it follows in the wake of a successful economy. A thriving economy needs workers, people...even Poland today can't get enough Ukrainians anymore, especially as alot of them are looking now further west to an equally laborer-starved economy, the german one. Actually they try to lure Filipinos to come to work to Poland...it will get worse (or better, depending on your view point)...it's part of the course...
What won't work is becoming successful and wealthy and an all around admired country with at the same time trying to do a North Korea...there is an inherent contradiction inside.
Rising economical success doesn't work without opening it's markets, it's borders...especially not in Europe with a gazillion of neighbours.
No, it follows in the wake of a successful economy. A thriving economy needs workers, people...even Poland today can't get enough Ukrainians anymore, especially as alot of them are looking now further west to an equally laborer-starved economy, the german one. Actually they try to lure Filipinos to come to work to Poland...it will get worse (or better, depending on your view point)...it's part of the course...
What won't work is becoming successful and wealthy and an all around admired country with at the same time trying to do a North Korea...there is an inherent contradiction inside.
Rising economical success doesn't work without opening it's markets, it's borders...especially not in Europe with a gazillion of neighbours.
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Is it....well let's see:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_South_Korea
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Immigrants_to_Israel
Especially Poles comparing immigration with rape is funny, Poles have one of the biggest diaspora of all Europeans...you are everywhere....for raping?
Nonsense....
Is it....well let's see:
According to the Japanese Ministry of Justice, the number of foreign residents in Japan has steadily increased in the post Second World War period....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan
Although immigration to South Korea is low due to strict immigration policies, it is on the rise....
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_South_Korea
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Immigrants_to_Israel
Especially Poles comparing immigration with rape is funny, Poles have one of the biggest diaspora of all Europeans...you are everywhere....for raping?
Bratwurst Boy
16 Aug 2018
UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]
Depends..
On this planet all countries fall in two categories, one with those countries which are rich and wealthy and able to provide stability and freedom and chances, these draw people from all over the world like moth to the flame, because they are so few. People dream about to leave their sh*itholes and to get there, to have a shot at a real life.
Then there are those countries which are just nothing of that kind, which are the majority of countries.
If your country belongs to the first category there will be immigration...good and bad. If your country belongs to the second category, your people will leave and want to immigrate to said countries of the first category.
What do you want for Poland? Do you want it to stay forever in the second category? Then you will keep your ethnical and cultural uniformity, but for the price of everything else.
If you want it to rise up and become successful like the country you yourself immigrated into, you will have to accept the longterm change of the make up of your country.
There is no middle way, that will be proven to be an illusion. So, what is it?
Man thank God my motherland doesn't have this problem...
Depends..
On this planet all countries fall in two categories, one with those countries which are rich and wealthy and able to provide stability and freedom and chances, these draw people from all over the world like moth to the flame, because they are so few. People dream about to leave their sh*itholes and to get there, to have a shot at a real life.
Then there are those countries which are just nothing of that kind, which are the majority of countries.
If your country belongs to the first category there will be immigration...good and bad. If your country belongs to the second category, your people will leave and want to immigrate to said countries of the first category.
What do you want for Poland? Do you want it to stay forever in the second category? Then you will keep your ethnical and cultural uniformity, but for the price of everything else.
If you want it to rise up and become successful like the country you yourself immigrated into, you will have to accept the longterm change of the make up of your country.
There is no middle way, that will be proven to be an illusion. So, what is it?
Bratwurst Boy
10 Aug 2018
News / How Polish diaspora see future of Poland? as ethnic Polish state or just Polish in origin? [120]
Is it through Kushner? What do you think?
Nah...they already differ in regards to Russia. Hungary want's to go friendly with Putin and has absolutely nothing against a better relationship with Russia...Poland not so much. And that could become a crucial disagreement!
At the end of the day if there's any country/people Trump will help it'll be Israel and the Jews as the Zionists totally have his ear.
Is it through Kushner? What do you think?
The only countries Poland can truly rely on are it's v4 partners and finally the government and people are realizing that.
Nah...they already differ in regards to Russia. Hungary want's to go friendly with Putin and has absolutely nothing against a better relationship with Russia...Poland not so much. And that could become a crucial disagreement!
Bratwurst Boy
10 Aug 2018
Life / Any one in need of a bulldog? A dog's life in Poland [39]
Wasn't that the "stiff upper lip"?
Buldog spirit
Wasn't that the "stiff upper lip"?
Bratwurst Boy
10 Aug 2018
Genealogy / Relatives' Pictures: Do They Look Polish? [44]
I think it's really hard to point out some "part jewish" feature in a head...and I can't find any. Neither the complexion nor the facial structure points to a traditional jewish heritage. It looks more slavic than anything else if you ask me...
I think it's really hard to point out some "part jewish" feature in a head...and I can't find any. Neither the complexion nor the facial structure points to a traditional jewish heritage. It looks more slavic than anything else if you ask me...
Bratwurst Boy
9 Aug 2018
Genealogy / Relatives' Pictures: Do They Look Polish? [44]
Some eastern european Jews look still semitic (long faces, darker complexion, prominent nose), but most german/western european Jews looked after so many centuries deep assimilation quite european, even germanic! :)
Some eastern european Jews look still semitic (long faces, darker complexion, prominent nose), but most german/western european Jews looked after so many centuries deep assimilation quite european, even germanic! :)
Bratwurst Boy
8 Aug 2018
Genealogy / Relatives' Pictures: Do They Look Polish? [44]
Probably Bavarians! :)
No really, it's a germanic feature, not a "german" one...in Germany you would find it mainly in northern Germany. In the South they look usually differently too.
I will look out for these characteristics next time I am in Gorlitz....
Probably Bavarians! :)
No really, it's a germanic feature, not a "german" one...in Germany you would find it mainly in northern Germany. In the South they look usually differently too.
Bratwurst Boy
8 Aug 2018
Genealogy / Relatives' Pictures: Do They Look Polish? [44]
Only his head? :)
This facial structure doesn't mean he would be German, it means he has a strong germanic heritage...this feature isn't about Germans. You will find it in Scandinavia, in the british isles, France, Poland, more concentrated in central Europe, but not only. Through immigration you find it also in Africa, in South America and of course, the US.
Only his head? :)
This facial structure doesn't mean he would be German, it means he has a strong germanic heritage...this feature isn't about Germans. You will find it in Scandinavia, in the british isles, France, Poland, more concentrated in central Europe, but not only. Through immigration you find it also in Africa, in South America and of course, the US.
Bratwurst Boy
8 Aug 2018
Genealogy / Relatives' Pictures: Do They Look Polish? [44]
His rounder head and prominent cheek bones lookr rather slavic/polish to me.
The pure germanic heritage is immediately recognizable through the so called "horse face"...a longish, rectangle of a head.
Slavic heads are round with a bigger top/forehead.
But in this region people are so mixed, most have both features in several degrees... :)
His rounder head and prominent cheek bones lookr rather slavic/polish to me.
The pure germanic heritage is immediately recognizable through the so called "horse face"...a longish, rectangle of a head.
Slavic heads are round with a bigger top/forehead.
But in this region people are so mixed, most have both features in several degrees... :)
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
Who hasn't a problem with them?
The basic income a german can apply for when in need is 416,- Euros.
For me personally the main problem is that for 99% upstanding, hard working, honest new immigrant, there will be the 1% which rape and pillage and destroy it for all the rest.
It would be helpfull if Germany would have the laws in place to get rid of these much quicker and more efficient than it is now...that would clear the air for all the good ones!
What I do have a problem with is fake asylum seekers
Who hasn't a problem with them?
The migrants have no incentive to work in Europe because Merkel will give them 1500 a month
The basic income a german can apply for when in need is 416,- Euros.
For me personally the main problem is that for 99% upstanding, hard working, honest new immigrant, there will be the 1% which rape and pillage and destroy it for all the rest.
It would be helpfull if Germany would have the laws in place to get rid of these much quicker and more efficient than it is now...that would clear the air for all the good ones!
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
PS: Not that it makes it much better but usually the victim of muslim rapes and pillaging are other muslim refugees....
bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime
PS: Not that it makes it much better but usually the victim of muslim rapes and pillaging are other muslim refugees....
The breakdown of specific crimes committed by the asylum seekers is equally thought-provoking. In some 91 percent of murders and three-quarters of cases involving grave bodily damage, the victims are other migrants.
bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-crime/violent-crime-rises-in-germany-and-is-attributed-to-refugees-idUSKBN1ES16J
? without any chance of asylum...mainly from northern Africa. Once the law is through that the Maghreb is deemed "safe", the german authorities will have the legal rights to relocate them in droves.
I agree that there is alot going wrong...for example that only those make it to the german borders which are young, strong, male and shucked out lotsa money for their human traffickers before.
In my opinion these neither need nor deserve asylum. But the the changes in our asylum laws develop slowly...
The future will be transit centers either on the outskirts of Europe or outside of Europe where the people will be going through the Asylverfahren BEFORE they come to Europe.
But still...I fear a georgian breaking into my house more than a raping and pillaging muslim refugee...fact!
migrants settling from war-torn countries such as Syria were much less likely to commit violent crimes that those from other places who were unlikely to be given asylum...
reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-crime/violent-crime-rises-in-germany-and-is-attributed-to-refugees-idUSKBN1ES16J
? without any chance of asylum...mainly from northern Africa. Once the law is through that the Maghreb is deemed "safe", the german authorities will have the legal rights to relocate them in droves.
I agree that there is alot going wrong...for example that only those make it to the german borders which are young, strong, male and shucked out lotsa money for their human traffickers before.
In my opinion these neither need nor deserve asylum. But the the changes in our asylum laws develop slowly...
The future will be transit centers either on the outskirts of Europe or outside of Europe where the people will be going through the Asylverfahren BEFORE they come to Europe.
But still...I fear a georgian breaking into my house more than a raping and pillaging muslim refugee...fact!
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
It's true though....eastern european (often romanian and/or georgian) gangs of muggers and burglars are a much bigger nuisance in Germany than raping and pillaging Muslims, believe it or not!
dw.com/en/burglary-rate-in-germany-hits-15-year-high/a-19151006
One big draw back of open borders. Not only common people and goods cross boundaries more easily, criminals too. They are neither muslim, nor refugees nor being "invited".
They come nonetheless!
It's true though....eastern european (often romanian and/or georgian) gangs of muggers and burglars are a much bigger nuisance in Germany than raping and pillaging Muslims, believe it or not!
Burglary rate in Germany hits 15-year high
dw.com/en/burglary-rate-in-germany-hits-15-year-high/a-19151006
One big draw back of open borders. Not only common people and goods cross boundaries more easily, criminals too. They are neither muslim, nor refugees nor being "invited".
They come nonetheless!
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
I've heard that expression before, by USians...but what does that actually mean?
Are you ready to emigrate? Become a refugee? Heh:)
I already gave up on the US.
I've heard that expression before, by USians...but what does that actually mean?
Are you ready to emigrate? Become a refugee? Heh:)
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
When I show you video over video of american nutters massacring schoolkids...of innocent civilians shot by the police in Atlanta...of hapless tourists murdered by drug gangs in Chicago...would that mean the whole of the US is one living hell?
Why are you unable to believe me when I try to tell you that living in Berlin is quite nice? That here being raped and pillaged is not the norm at all?
Why don't you accept real statistic evidence?
politico.eu/article/germany-crime-rate-lowest-since-1992
are all staged right?
When I show you video over video of american nutters massacring schoolkids...of innocent civilians shot by the police in Atlanta...of hapless tourists murdered by drug gangs in Chicago...would that mean the whole of the US is one living hell?
Why are you unable to believe me when I try to tell you that living in Berlin is quite nice? That here being raped and pillaged is not the norm at all?
Why don't you accept real statistic evidence?
Germany records lowest crime rate since 1992
politico.eu/article/germany-crime-rate-lowest-since-1992
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
Germany is.
We did so with millions of people fleeing from the Balkan wars...a similiar situation to today...
And after the war was over one country after the other was declared "safe" and the deportations startet...sometimes (often) hitting families which had been already well integrated for years here, had jobs, got to school/university, children being born here...deported back they were nonetheless.
Just for your memory:
nytimes.com/1992/07/24/world/yugoslav-refugee-crisis-europe-s-worst-since-40-s.html
Do you have the balls to send them packing one day or are they - like AIDS - forever?
Germany is.
We did so with millions of people fleeing from the Balkan wars...a similiar situation to today...
And after the war was over one country after the other was declared "safe" and the deportations startet...sometimes (often) hitting families which had been already well integrated for years here, had jobs, got to school/university, children being born here...deported back they were nonetheless.
Just for your memory:
Yugoslav Refugee Crisis Europe's Worst Since 40's
nytimes.com/1992/07/24/world/yugoslav-refugee-crisis-europe-s-worst-since-40-s.html
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
No, you didn't!
How can one want to leave a dream country with
for a higher salary???
Is earning more money really so much more worth suffering a country with terrorism, thousands of rape cases, no go areas, sharia courts?
OR
is that dystopia you describe just not true? Nowhere in western Europe? So that people decide with their feet to rather live a better life in a country/city where your neighbour could be named Ali Mohammed than to scrape along at home without?
Can Poles and other eastern Europeans be bought and bribed to ignore the raping and pillaging muslims in their destination countries???
You explained NOTHING!
I already explained this...
No, you didn't!
How can one want to leave a dream country with
no terrorism, no thousands of rape cases, no no go zones, no sharia courts...
for a higher salary???
Is earning more money really so much more worth suffering a country with terrorism, thousands of rape cases, no go areas, sharia courts?
OR
is that dystopia you describe just not true? Nowhere in western Europe? So that people decide with their feet to rather live a better life in a country/city where your neighbour could be named Ali Mohammed than to scrape along at home without?
Can Poles and other eastern Europeans be bought and bribed to ignore the raping and pillaging muslims in their destination countries???
You explained NOTHING!
Bratwurst Boy
23 Jul 2018
News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]
Then why are they leaving?
Versus Poland czechy Hungary Slovakia - no terrorism, no thousands of rape cases, no no go zones, no sharia courts, ....
Then why are they leaving?
Eastern Europe has the largest population loss in modern history
The UN estimated that there were about 292 million people in Eastern Europe last year, 18 million less than in the early 1990s, that's more than the population of the Netherlands disappearing from the region.....