Life / Can foreigners really understand Poles? [136]


No idea but you still gave him away to Longshanks.


Fixed it:)


You're such Scot sometimes, by all means stereotype the hell out of Poles, i'm curious:)

Life / Can foreigners really understand Poles? [136]


Am i going to have to be rude again or are you going to give a proper reply?


There are no similarities, British people killed Mel Gibson, we would never kill Mel Gibson.

Life / Can foreigners really understand Poles? [136]


So how is Polish psyche different from say the British psyche (since you're British and all).

News / Poland - Third World Country?? [300]


I'm not worried i know what a wide term that is, Russia is comparable to Turkey, a huge country in which there are regions that can be called 2nd world (like Moscow) but everywhere else its povertyland.

First thing you notice when you're in Russia is the lower standard of pretty much everything and a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between major cities and the rest of the country, in Poland not so much.

Besides countries are classed not only by their economies.

News / Poland - Third World Country?? [300]


Yes its called "developing countries" however developing countries is a wide term that can mean poor dwindling economies like Ukraine or Belarus or buzzing ones only a decade behind the West, like Poland.

And no Poland is not third world, its on the highest step of the "developing country" ladder, not yet a first world country but not that far away, the civilisational level is the same, the freedoms and liberties are the same but the standard of living is somewhat lower.

And Sean Russia definitely is a third world country.

1. Lack of liberties and severely limited free speech (you're allowed to excersize it only on personal level and even then not always, going official or public see's you canned).

2. Severely underdeveloped economy and infrastructure, barring pockets of relative wealth that are a few larger cities Russia is a desert, the countryside lacks even paved roads, rail network is severely underdeveloped and the economy growth itself is basing purely on fossiles export.

Russia has virtually no private sector to speak of and parts of the economy remain centrally planned.

3. Complete disregard to human rights, assasinations of opposition, abuse by Police and corruption to match Africas are a civilisational standard widely accepted and practised.

So yes Sean Russia is third world, its an extremely poor backwards country with pockets of wealth (though not civilisation) i dont know where do you come from with your arguments, probably from the same basket that made you call Putin, a murderer and a tyrant - a decent man.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


I'm not pro-Russian, i dont like Russia i think it was, is and will be a barbaric craphole but i'm all for historical truth, the truth is Russia won the war single handedly and the West stole that victory by creating a false image that lend lease was critical.

Germans obliged by it so they wouldnt have to admit how easily Russia put them down once it got into gear.


There's nothing to over or underestimate, we've got numbers and they dont lie.



And thats exactly the Western lie we're talking about, notice how tendentional this article is.

First it gives a number produced as 92 and thats accurate, what it fails to mention is that existing Soviet stocks of railcars and locomotives made Russia completely safe, they had tens of thousands of locs and hundreds of thousands of railcars, sending 2000 locos and 11.000 railcars is a joke.

As for aircraft not even 1/5th of Red Airforce, as for trucks the article itself admits most of logistics was done by rail.

I'm not pro-Russian if anything i'm anti-Russian and definitely anti-Soviet but propagating a historical lie that West won the war or that Russia would not win without the West is just wrong.


Go read about "Deep Encirclement" and "Elastic Defense" Russian doctrines that were the most advanced in all theatres, tanks like KV-85 or IS-3, Katyushas ... Russians had everything the Allies had and more.

Superior equipment, tactics, numbers ,determination, command, and you're telling me a few millions dispirited underequipped Germans who were already being steamrolled for more then a year would do a difference? Dream on and learn history while at it.


Because i dont like the West "hogging" the victory when they were just a sideshow, having been abroad i've got a good idea as to how a typical Western European views history and its almost as focked up as hardcore Soviet versions.

Life / Horribly cold in Krakow at the moment , how do you cope with such temperatures ? [124]


Rubbish, the heating is on but its still cold in the house.

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]

Hah no but what Nathan and most of Ukraine tries to escape from by making up history (you should read their history books they're as good as Russian ones) much of their culture and civilisation is what they inherited from us.

Think ancient Romans and Germans, much of what you built your civilisation on comes from Rome, without Rome you'd be on the level of early Slavic tribes you conquered, the same with Poland and Ukraine.

Ukraine as a region lacked cohesivness, cultural integrity and civilisation that brings with it technology etc, Poland brought it and Poland developed it through the centuries, in the end when Ukrainians emancipated in the 19th century they built on foundations inherited from Poland.

And just like Germanics were intimately tied with Rome living in and around it, defending it and fighting it so were Ukrainians with Poland and to make the analogy even more similar both Germanics and Ukrainians contributed to the fall of the old empires they were part of (though Ukrainians were a tad less instrumental then say Russia or Germany or Poles themselves).

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]

Ukraine was growing within the confines of Poland, culture, civilisation, mutual political goals, same ethnicity, same enemies and a long time of an intimate alliance.

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


No of course not but baiting Nathan is fun, personally i think it was all pretty stupid.


Not really no, you have to remember that Poland was a pretty big country, the army was re-created soon after, the main problem here was our own king, Jan Kazimierz, there's good indications that he wanted to destroy the standing army in order to pave the way for the Polish throne to become hereditary.

Politically and strategically it was a blow but not a big one while Beresteczek was catastrophic for Ukraine in that it destroyed the bulk of their trained forces, Batoh was the last major victory, during wars with Muscovites they no longer could compete due to lack of experienced troops.


For quite a long time it was brotherly, eventually Cossacks started demanding more, Poles ready to give less and the whole thing fell apart.

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Sorry to break your bubble but Tatars fled the field after we killed their commander in chief and slaughtered over 7000 of their best mounted regiment, no one paid them a dime, Tatars were bribed by Poland a few years earlier at Zborów, at Beresteczko they fled so fast they left their camp behind.


By the time your "commander" was kidnapped 90% of your cavalry was dead, all your artillery was gone and you were reduced to a disorganised rabble waiting to be slaughtered inside your camp, which we did:)


I'm sorry what? Your entire army was routed and mass panic broke out once the Poles breached the camp, sorry but once your defences collapsed there was very little bravery and quite a lot of panic.


Learn history buddy, no one bribed anyone, we just put you down as we did in all the previous uprisings, as we did in 1919, as we did in Akcja Wisła, you're a typical Ukrainian, always the loudmouths and when it came to blows you just lost, every single time :)

Poland 850 dead - Ukraine - 70.000 dead 15.000 captured.

:))))

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Like i said there could be some random nobles, but there were more Germans on the Polish side then Serbs.


At least several hundred knights, just like Teutonic Knights had several hundred Polish knights, back then you didnt fight for nationality but kings, if a German had lands and felt obliged to the Polish king he'd fight with Poles, if a Polish knight was a vassal of the Grand Master he'd side with Teutonic Knights.

Its nothing new really, in 100 years war French soldiers were on both sides as well.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


So your argument is that providing 4% of the total of locomotives Russians had was critical?:)


Sorry what am i supposed to say? If the guy claims that 4% of the rail park makes a difference his book is obviously garbage.

Its like claiming that you gave Bill Gates 10 dollars and made him rich ignoring he already has a billion:)

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Come on Nathan you're editing wikipedia again? Just like last time when you edited the numbers so the Polish army got 10 times bigger then it was in reality?

We owned your peasant little country, whatever civilisation you inherited, we brought it, we defeated you in every single war, if it makes you feel better you can quote wikipedia articles that you edited 10 minutes ago, knock yourself out :)

At least when i discuss with Germans i can point to a time when my country was a true European power, what did your country achieve? You're reduced to editing wiki to have any achievement at all:)))

Also Nathan why dont you post how your little uprising ended for you? How we invaded Ukraine with the Crown army, how we massacred you little peasants under Beresteczeko killing 70.000 of your peasant army losing only 850 soldiers and putting you back in your place for good?:)

You little peasants feared Poland so much after all this that you ran to Russia but even in Russia you were just peasants and second class citizens :)))

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Read with understanding Nathan, we've been talking about the Battle of Vienna, not at Cecora and no there havent been any Zaporozhyan Cossacks, we have a complete list of all Polish units that took part, both cavalry and infantry, take a peek at Wikipedia and around the web, no Cossacks under Vienna sorry :)


I'm not rigging anything its You who cant read whats written, by the way Nathan you realise the only wars Ukraine ever won was when you were a part of the Polish army (you were soldiers never commanders) and that you have never won an actuall war on your own?:)

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


It was a Polish army that stopped the Ottomans, if Poland lost at Grunwald it would get invaded by Hungary, Moscow and Teutonic Knights and would get partitioned 400 years earlier which means there wouldnt be anyone to help Austria since German states were small and divided.

So if the battle of Grunwald was lost by Poles Austria and all of Germany would get f*cked 3 centuries later.

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Given that if it did not happen or ended up differently it would alter the history of much of Europe up to this very day, pretty big?


In no source bar Wiki did the allies have more then 60-70k troops, quoting a source thats downright false is all you can do?

There was not a single Zaporozhyan Cossack under Vienna, there was no Lithuanian army under Vienna yet your source claims both, sorry buddy you'll have to do better.

I'll give you a tip, Germans kept shooting it out with Turks for several hours with no effect, then Poles broke them up in a series of charges under 30 minutes, now go read books before you quote wiki.


Thats different, just because uneducated morons like you dont care doesnt mean it doesnt matter objectively:)

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


Wrong answer, of course you almost never give a right answer being an idiot and all:)

So lets see, thanks to this battle Poland survived and went on to create one of the greatest reneissance states in Europe, a great deal of our heritage is from that period.

Thanks to that battle Slavic nations were not overrun by Germans (Teutonic Knights did have every intention to skullf*ck Ruthenia and Russia proper and these states were massively weaker then Poland).

In the end thanks to this battle Poland survived as a major European power all the way to the battle of Vienna where Poles saved Germans from becoming Turkish bytches for God knows how many generations.

So not only the Polish victory saved Poland, 90% of Slavic population and allowed us to flourish for another 250~ years but in the long run it saved Austria and Germany as well :)

Every major medieval battle triggered a chain of events that shaped history untill this very day, only an utter ignoramus like you claims these past events had no influence on our everyday life today.


I'm sorry but the only infantry on the Polish side were heavy city regiments from Poland proper, Lithuania was too far and its infantry useless due to technological backwardness and the lighter units were guarding against Hungary.

So if Zawisza had a retinue at Grunwald it would have been mounted and more then likely Polish, also he did not have these villages before Grunwald, he purchased them afterwards.

Well its true, bloody twisted but true, France wanted to see your lot destroyed, Spain and UK didnt care and the strongest German state aka Austria was in the process of being b*tchslapped, no Poland = no help and no help = you wearing a turban :)

History / Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed. [174]


According to Crow maybe.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


Yes which still does not change the fact they had over 5 milion frontline troops which means they could easily outnumber the allies and draw reserves from active troops rather then the population.


What considerable punch? Allies had problems with Gustavs line for months, Soviets broke through Hunyadys line in 48 hours, Allies had problems with Caen, Russians overrun its equivalent - Torda in days.

Sorry to break the bubble of Western education where USA and UK saved the world, the fact is by late 44 and all of 45 Russians by themselves had more military, technological and strategic capability in Europe then Germans and all of Western Allies combined and they proven it by skullf*cking any and every German defensive line with ease as compared to Allies who struggled at every turn.


Like i said, idiots should not post, Tiger II was inferior to both Panther and Tiger I because of suspension, engineering problems, being underpowered and oversophisticated.

It was considered a failiure in WW2 and it had overall characteristics massively inferior to IS-3, by 1970s there existed tanks like T-54 or 55s (not to say about T-64 which could probably single handedly butcher an entire WW2 era tank company) which could destroy a Tiger II frontally at 2000 meters and take its shell to the side so start reading books and stop posting utter rubbish like that, k?


Are you American or just stupid? Allies did not have nukes, comprende? They did not have capability to build them en masse, they did not have capability to deliver them, Russians on the other hand had the capacity to skullf*ck the Allies and take over Western Europe.

They didnt do it because they were reaching a reserve crisis and such a war would drain USSR even further which doesnt change the fact that they had a larger stick then the rest of the world combined.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


Sorry mate thats just the Western version of history for idiots like you, go read on T-34/85 as compared to Pz IV, IS-2, IS-3, KV series and more, Soviet tanks were better on every possible field, the only issue was crew training, because Soviets had so many tanks they did not train their crews much.


Which proves he was as much into sci-fi as you are, go check when the third nuke was constructed.


And even by then everyone knew it was bs.


Their military commitment was about 1/5th of the Soviet military commitment, your point is?

Russians were tired of war but if Stalin did order it they'd roll all over Germany, American and British forces, occupy France and then skullfvck UK with carpet bombings untill Brits themselves gave Moscow Churchill gift wrapped with capitulation terms shoved in his arse.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


Yes way, just their offensive in Hungary was enough to eat whole of Wehrmacht alive and they had several fronts, some of them much stronger, Russian numbers in men and equipment as well as general quality of frontline troops was just insane, for example when fighting in Szekler Ground in Hungary they fielded a corps that had more tanks than an entire German army in the West.

Besides by that period most of Soviet equipment was better then both German and Western ones.

History / Poland's General Anders and one of the biggest "What Ifs?" of WW2 [31]


Against nearly 2.3 milion Soviet soldiers, while i agree that Anders and his men were head and shoulders above even the most crack Soviet units they were outnumbered dozenz to one on every field.

I'm sorry Ozi but at the time Russia had the kind of army that could squash both the Wehrmacht and what the allies had in Europe, at the same time, a partizan force and a single army unit could do nothing against that kind of power.

Life / Typical Examples of Polish Parking Entitlement (post yours) [57]


Son are you a dirty communist? Never ever question The Hummer, ever.

Life / Typical Examples of Polish Parking Entitlement (post yours) [57]


Hummer owning people can park wherever the f*ck they want you wuss.

Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

Well the cop was more or less right, he was acting in his authority, gave you essential information so you could retrieve your registration so whats the fuss about?


Procedures, and no even in UK you have to wait in similar cases (though usually its 48 hrs).

News / Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions? [285]


There's nothing wrong with multiculturalism but instead of mindlessly opening borders to everyone like UK did we need to realise that we need to be mindfull of who we let in.

News / Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions? [285]


Its OK for them to have a piece of pie IF they're willing to assimilate and conform to our ways, after all its our country, if they want to have a piece of pie and keep their way of life which collides with ours they can GTFO.

You Brits did the most idiotic things, you allowed in people who's way of life, belief system and whole cultural background cancels any chance of long term assimilation, by giving them money and power you're not elevating them to your economic status, you're giving them tools to eventually take over your economy and make you pariahs in your own country.


Amen, a draconian law is needed, these people have to integrate or else give them economic and cultural encouragement yes, but have a sharp stick if they wont accept the carrot.

Work / Salary expectations in Poland [373]


Well he was not that far off, mind you as a rule life is cheaper in smaller cities, Warsaw gets the highest pay but also the highest living costs.

Food / Mother of all hangovers....Polish Beer! [71]


Because you bought the worst and cheapest thing available? Normaly our beer is rather better then the watery p*ss they serve in the West also:


You Western buggers just dont know how to behave do you? A few weeks ago we were getting home from work at night and a couple of Brits were running around the market dressed in a smile, it was bloody -10 Celsius!