History / Polish 304 SQUADRON IN THE RAF IN WW2 - Davidstow in Cornwall [16]


Try /Question-Honor-Kosciuszko-Squadron-Forgotten/ - this book. It may not have everything you are looking for but the author did a very thorough research and documented their sources.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


To me a Polish Jews are those who consider themselves Jews who happened to have some family hisory living in Poland.

Jewish Poles are persons who consider themselves Poles with Jewish roots.

Ultimately it may be splitting hairs, as we all are th same human race and we will live together in peace forever and ever, amen :)

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


That vast majority of Poles were Polish patriots fighting against Germans. They were not communist though and that was their only fault. Some of these patriots were those Poles who return from Western front where they fought along the side of British and Americans (French fought mostly in their bedrooms and backyards tending to tomatoes and grapes)

Some Polish citizens did fight for the Germans. These were Poles of German origin living in Poland. Some native Poles also co-operated with the Nazis. That is not unusual in any nation. There were Jews fighting for the Nazis, some high ranking Nazi officers. Jews were killing Jews and they were also some of the most effective kapos in concentration camps. Using your twisted and sick logic Jews were operationg concentration camps.


Wait. I thought we were talking about "Poland's concentration camps" in 1947. You seem to be drifting all over the place. What does 1970 have to do with 1947 I thought we were discussing? Are you going to tell the world that Poles had concentration camps in 1970?

I see how you work. When proven wrong you don't have the integrity to admit it. You have an agenda and, no historical fact counts to you if it doesn't support that agenda. You are a hate filled fool and you are burning yourself out by performing a very public, and in the end masochistic, masturbation.

Another of 1500 grams of organic matter, you undoubtedly call brain, wasted.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


Why. It should never be closed. It needs to serve as a reminder.


And WTF was MBP if not a soviet controlled gang?


Not so fast. The correct statement should be "some were Poles".
Back to the topic. What you have shown here is that communists have been the scourge of the Earth.


My family already has and, unlike you, they were able to move on. Some were prisoners in Auschwitz and other camps during WW2, you fool. Some were were prisoners in such camps after WW2, ands some escaped from transports to Siberia in 1940's.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


What did you expect? Were they supposed to pack it up and send it to Germany?
The camp was operated by NKVD and the prisoners were German POWs, mostly Waffen SS fellas. Rudolf Hess was executed there in 1947. Do you feel sorry for him?


Nothing to touch any nerves. Nazis got busted and they had a chance to taste their own medicine. If that was up to me I would keep part of it open till today and place in there all neonazis and hate mongering as.sholes. Some of your hate filled comments would qualify you as an inmate.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


Don't put words in my mouth.
Do you always assume what people think, or what happened? Why not do some honest research for a change.


Czechoslovakia was occupied by Poland in the 60's? News to me. Unless you are confusing Polish troops who were sent there to destroy the Czech uprising. Yes, they went there. Nothing to be proud of but it's not what you're trying to make out of it.

You are using the word "concentration camp" very freely. Pretty much any detention facility would qualify by your descriptions.

You are an angry little fvcker with very very little knowledge of history, pitiful fragments really, and only some rudimentary debating skill. That's what happens when anger overshadows reason. You seem to have none left.

Try taking a walk. That may help clear your mind.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]


It's not a matter of belief. These are facts. Poland was occupied by the USSR until 1989.

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]



Both of you are right as both names have been in use in Poland, although Oswiecim was used more frequently.
Still, some Poles used the name Auschwitz to differentiate the camp form the city of Oswiecim.

Anybody remembers Tadeusz Borowski's "U nas w Auschwitzu"?

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

Never mind. I just picked on some of your statements. Attention to detail, you know ;)
Thanks for the explanation of the "richtige Deutsche".

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


OK, thanks. That would show that a variety of "never say never" applies here.


As above.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


so what does the term "richtige Deutsche" mean? That's an honest question.


No problem at all. I thought it was only Poles who were touchy. Was I wrong?
Just trying to see if one of us has got things not quite right.


Nope. Only when it serves to illustrate a point.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

Yes, they are kinda gone, but that's not the point. The point is that you said our society never knew really a distinction.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


I thought Germans were working hard to define what German meant. Heck, they even measured sizes of noses and ear lobes at one time.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


ahem...
so what the whole Übermensch thing was about?

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


Not always so.

It is almost a stereotype, confirmed by countless immigrant stories where parents do all they can to help kids get education better than they could get. All that so that the kids' lives are easier. (Not that education always ensures that)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

They didn't come to Poland for the love of Poles, but for the fear of Germans, English, Spaniards, French etc.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

That was their choice. If they wanted to live apart (most did) they were left alone. If they decided to become Christians then they automatically acquired the status of nobility. In fact, native Poles didn't have a lot of right Jews enjoyed.


Yes, these were against Jews and Poles (Chmielnicki), and then, after the occupying powers abolished the Statute of Kalisz the conditions of Jews in Poland went South.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


You got a point. Denying the existence of antisemitism in Poland is plain silly. It has and does exists everywhere Jews live.

The only issue with antisemitism in Poland is that is has been blown out of proportion. In fact, considering non-islamic persons, Germany has had the highest number of antisemitic incidents in this decade.

Language / The Polish language - it's bloody hard! [210]


I dunno how this can be established. There must be some numbers to support that statement. Simple listing from dictionaries won't do either as this issue would likely be subject to the study of semantic field in regards to every meaning of the word. IMO that kind of research would be hard to automate using a computer. Lotsa work.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


These are facts but they are not discussed at great length by most historians for the fear of being accused of anti-semitism.

The fact also is that a disproportionate number of top UB (Polish KGB) brass soon after WW2 were Jews. Stalin knew he couldn't trust native Poles as much. That is not to say that all Jews were UB agents, but as it happens with people, stereotypes spread and the innocent become the "collateral damage". Hence two waves of Jewish emigration from Poland after WW2.

UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish should love each other [65]


Not enough for even one leaf of the Irish clover ;)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


Yeah, I'm with you on that one, although... imagine the amount of methane you could extract from them.

Language / The Polish language - it's bloody hard! [210]


Polen - Poland
polen - to polarize

der Lauf : barrel, course, current, heat (in sport), muzzle, operation, running, trend, way

Love / Nice Polish women photos [329]


A little something for you then: wcuk.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/225629_fat_guy_in_car.jpg

UK, Ireland / Polish Festivals/Exhibitions/Events in UK [91]


Aren't there enough native exhibitionists in the UK ? ;)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


nah, they just stay indoors and devour ungodly amounts if junk food. In fact they are very much visible

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


See? You're putting words into people's mouth. Who the hell mentioned anything about you being disqualified from posting here?

You seem to see things the way you want to see them?


In 1970's when Germany paid some reparations to Poland to be paid to Polish victims of WW2 a Jewish person approached my aunt to sign an affidavit stating that my aunt was a witness of that person having been in Auschwitz. My aunt remembered the Jewess so she signed but decided not to apply herself. All those years she considered herself already rewarded by having been able to survive the horror of the concentration camp.

After a couple years though, at the insistance of her children, auntie applied too. She asked the Jewish lady (for the lack of a better word) to sign the witness affidavit. She refused, stating that my aunt's greed had no limits.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Quite an entertaining story. Reads like plagiarisms by Kosinski.

8 year old kids had a concept of you being Jewish? I certainly didn't at that age. I don;t think any of my peers did at the age of 8.

I had a few friends in my class who didn't go to the first communion. Some were Jews some weren't. Nobody thought twice about that, and we went on to play "injuns" as always. You must have some real bad luck.


Did you paint it over, or did you force them to forget?

When I was in high school I knew this polish guy. He was 100% antisemitic and actively so. All others ran away from him. He was embarrassing and generally considered a freak.


I can't find you on NK.


And yet in your profile you states you are Polish, and you are a member of a Polish forum?

I tend to agree with Lukasz - a little provocation :)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


I can't remember saying you did.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

Well, you missed the nail. As others said, any racism in Poland is not much different that in other countries. If we throw in other ethnicity based prejudices your country has a bigger problem than Poland:

sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003352.html

but fear not UK and Poland are not alone in their reaction to changing ethnic realities:

europeanfoundation.blogspot.com/2007/12/racial-tensions-flare-up-in-italy.html
goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-2628093/HOLLAND-MUSLIMS-FACING-CHALLENGES-OF.html
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4399748.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/634652.stm
militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1478
npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5453851