News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


No, they don't. A german youth would never be able to lie about his age...


Well, here I disagree....

If the CDU carry's on her legacy that will make the AfD the biggest and lonely conservative/rightist party in Germany (outside of Bavaria). Meaning she will take over that huge vacuum Merkel left behind in her move to the left.

What will be cemented is what has been developed during the last years:

- a big emptiness right of the middle (where the AfD now grows into)
(Don't forget, we are talking about millions of homeless voters...who sooner or later will vote for the AfD, and be it just because the country get's used to their presence and the alarmist headlines lose their effect, as it happened with the Greens)

- a crowded space left of the middle (where the CDU now suffocates the SPD which is already cornered by "Die Linke" and die "Grünen", not to speak of what might become of Wagenknechts new movement.)

The political sound and most logical decision for the after-Merkel-CDU would be to throw Merkel's legacy into the bin and take back it's righteous place, right of the middle. And trying to push the AfD out to the margins.

When they don't do that....well...another left party this country doesn't need! They will sink!


See? No law is written into stone when enough people are sick of it... :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Not to mention the costs. The refugees who make it to Europe belong to those whith money...this treck is expensive. It is no joke that many of those coming here for help have just paid several thousand Euros to human traffickers along their way.

A bad joke for many poor german pensioners and families with children who have to scrape through barely every day...that all adds up to the felt injustice by the natives.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


I totally agree with you. That should be our all end goal, but in the meantime we should make sure to make it that far...

And frankly I have more hopes for positive changes in all these poor countries when the most able and most driven don't leave. That leaving works also as a cementing of the bad structures at home when those who could change something leave...

Maybe it would be cruel at first but maybe in the long run better if Europe plugs that hole. Just imagine all these millions of young people not having a way to flee...all that pressure growing like in a kettle without a steam whistle.

Some people say the GDR could exist even today if she had all those unhappy citizens just leave...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


"Understanding" isn't the problem...accepting is!

It's hard if not possible to accept a law which handles foreign criminals with super soft gloves and supports them at every turn...at the cost of the natives.

I tell you, that will change. That has to change when the rulers ever want peace in this country again. Yes, some of these laws will be changed! If not in the coming three years, then afterwards.

It doesn't even need an AfD chancellor for that. Every town can decide to handle their foreign criminals more firmly. Right now it's openly discussed in Frankfurt/Oder, where the Bürgermeister is part of "die Linke", also hardly a Neo-Nazi

The moment the AfD takes over towns and villages and cities, or goes into coalitions with a soon-to-be-Merkelless CDU (in three years) these laws WILL be changed!


I hope so, I really do.

But that hope clashes somewhat with the prediction for the next years of millions of young african males sitting on their bags getting ready to leave their contintent, dreaming of Europe. Overpopulation going hand in hand with war, destruction and mismanagment...

What about that dark vision of the future?

The only realistic answer (beside all that "Fluchtursachen bekämpfen") will be a shut down EU...with a highly secured outer border...


That depends on the CDU. When the party finds it's way back to the old ways, meaning much more conservative/rightist than now, then many of the old voters will think it over again.

The main reason people vote for the AfD is because it's the one party which has kept the the political stands of this old CDU, before Merkel. So, for the west german Left there will be no really a difference.

But that won't be easy...I rather predict that a merkellless CDU will drop down fast and deep. Their process to find a new direction will take time and will be very painful. I doubt that the CDU will stay intact over it, not to mention that the AfD won't just meekly dissolve itself.


Agreed!

But that too would need a change of a law somewhere... ;)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


What makes you think East Germans did not live under the rule of law! :)

And what laws that were...all what the party did was lawful...totally founded in the law system of this country. Written down in big books and followed to the letter by lotsa studied people.

And critics back then got handed a similiar treatment btw...how dare they to criticize THE LAWS!!!
(Okay they weren't called mob, but "Volksverräter" and "Agenten des Westens" and what not...in the worst case they wandered into jail...totally in compliance with THE LAW of course)

But you know also what happened as the trust in this laws eroded over time till it vanished and "the mob" decided enough is enough, don't you?

Maybe that's the main difference today between Ossis and Wessis.

A law isn't automatically right only because someone says so....we have experienced that. You not!

Wessis seem to believe their ways are set in stone for the eternity. Someone who has seen it all break down once before doesn't.

This obedience to the rulers and their LAWS is much higher today with the Wessis than with the Ossis...that's why the AfD will take over the ex-GDR in a few years...if the West doesn't adapt...mark my words!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

...you know what happened to Hillary Clinton as she called millions of USians "deplorables", don't you...this "pack" decided to show her the finger right back the next moment they could!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Are you really calling all people dissatisfied with this judgement "mob"?

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

That murderer told everybody he was 15 years old. The latest official expertise says instead that he was at the point of the murder at least 17 + 6 month, but most probably about 20!

tagesschau.de/inland/kandel-urteil-105.html

He should be judged as a grown up...and then he could be jailed for 20 years! THAT would mean justice!

But now he profits again from his lies...as he isn't judged as the man he already was but the teenager he pretended to be.

Let's face it Tacitus....Germany has become a country where lying, cheating and betraying pays off!

And again...another judgement which doesn't do anything for justice...but makes the blood boil. Another chunk in the armor of our law system and the belief in the rule of law in Germany...

Here an interview with the Bürgermeister of Kandel:


focus.de/politik/deutschland/mord-an-mia-buergermeister-von-kandel-ueber-mord-urteil-unzufriedenheit-mit-staat-wird-angeheizt_id_9522608.html

If you didn't know better you could think alot of people work hard on hollowing out this state and the trust of it's people in it....one chunk after the other...and the AfD grows and grows and grows...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

It's not only me or "nutters" who criticize the german court system.

Many experts also agree that to often the focus of their ruling lays on the criminal, how a judgement would affect HIM, not his victims. And yes, justice means also "satisfaction" for the victims, that a kind of compensation is metet out.

And that to often just doesn't happen anymore..

An for all side acceptable law system doesn't has to mean "an eye for an eye" but shouldn't also end in a mocking for the victims!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

But...he wasn't a minor...he LIED about his age to suck out all the generosity this state hands out to young people in need. He lied and murdered!

He betrayed all what is good about Germany, abused it and perverted it!

To show now any kind of benignity is now a double betrayal to every really young one in need who doesn't lie and doesn't murder and also to all those people who opened their hearts and also their purses to these people.

There is nothing fair about this judgement, for nobody! Just maybe another percent for the rise of the AfD...

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Sometimes I envy you for that.

I remember that one case where a drunk driver murdered a whole young family...papa, mama, baby...all because he decided to party, have fun, drink heavily and afterwards driving much to fast on the wrong lane home.

That man deserved the worst if you ask me, but he didn't even get jail time because...and now it really starts to hurt...the young man was drunk (used as an apology), there was no danger of repeating because he openly apologized aaaaaaaaaand that event shouldn't destroy all his life and leave him a chance (or some similiar worded crap).

Such ruling leaves you only dumbfounded and betrayed somehow, your blood boiling...that's just not fair. In such moment I wishs we had some real verdicts, not that cameos of justice.

And what's worse, in the long run it destroys your trust in this rule of law. After all you can go to jail when you don't pay your ticket or the GEZ tax (for TV)....and here the state is merciless!

Or latest example...this murderer from Kandel get's barely 8 years...but hey....if you dare to complain you must be a hater!

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

...I dunno...maybe because to many criminals should have left the country already only to stay "tolerated"...that (alleged) murderer in Chemnitz for example...remember Anis Amri? The murdered woman in Freiburg?

(auch eine Nachteule? :)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Will he?

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]

You are talking crap!

And if only because you need an official ID for your belief.
But what about all the millions of immigrants now with a german ID, many of them immigrating from former occupied countries, their children being born here = guilty by being german nationals?

You have attacked me for being Nazi the moment you knew I was a German from Berlin with your stupid essays through the forum mail. Would you had done the same with me being USian or Canadian or Brazilian or whatever? Not knowing or caring if my parents where full blooded Germans just having emigrated after the war?

I very much doubt that! The difference is all in your head.

You are a little bigot and xenophobe, not more not less. Please **** off!

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]

Yeah...and my first words were "Heil Mama" shortly followed by me humming the "Internationale"..

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]

As an ex GDR Ossi I probably are some kind of hybrid...the genetically inherited Nazism + the indoctrinated communism = Nanism????

My children will be born Nanists of course also...they will never have the chance of independent thinking...poor sods.

(or does communist indoctrination of the parents annuls somehow the genetically inherited fascism from the grandparents in the later babies??? Hmmm......)

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]


Yup! He was probably told that modern Germans are still abit Nazis and always will be....they need to be watched!

Life / How's the life of an LGBT person in Poland? [90]


Yeah...but then, Berlin is only ever einen "Katzensprung" away, heh:)

Now it started raining here...the hottest summer since weather recording ends now...puh!

Life / How's the life of an LGBT person in Poland? [90]

Or maybe they just don't want to look their cities like Cologne at Silvester 2015 and go about rather at a slower pace?

Especially concerning immigration the West did not always do everything right...

(But then one should not mix up the gay with the muslim question...most liberal western gays are not exactly happy
about the immigration of so many stone age muslims themselves)

Life / How's the life of an LGBT person in Poland? [90]

Well...Putin has after that list a freedom and safety problem.

When I have to fear to be thrown into jail or being poisoned for criticizing his state (even as fully committed hetero) than that is definitely not my kind of society. No amount of being allowed to beat up gays or deporting muslims can make up for that.

Then there is the question of being sustainable. How sustainable are the finances of a state which concentrates on selling raw materials?

I think the judgement of the perfect society is a just a matter of priorities...

Life / How's the life of an LGBT person in Poland? [90]


Nah...that all sounds nice but is open to interpretation...

god fearing = Taliban? Catholic inquisition?

high morals = beating up gays?

common sense = ??? (Who doesn't claims that for himself:)

freedoms = allowed to be being not-god fearing and gay?

safety = from the state too?


Absolutely agree! I would call that the #1 priority....the rest can be discussed but it makes no sense if the society is drowning.

I disagree though about which poses the biggest dangers...muslims and gays are not the most destructive. It has surely something to do with the financial policies...

Life / How's the life of an LGBT person in Poland? [90]


What exactly makes a society great?

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]

Yeah...in the GDR everybody was forced to join the "Pioniere" and later the "Freie Deutsche Jugend (FDJ)"...if that all had become true commies later the GDR would still exist!

Genealogy / Ethnic Poles or Ethnic Germans? My family mystery [37]


That's typical german names...at least every third full blooded German has a "ski" in his name, heh:)

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


How do you know?

Germany's first experience of Muslims in the population started in the 60s with some imported Turks...with Africans we barely have any experience at all even now. ...so...how do you know about this "generally"?

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]

Heh:)

Take that "G"!

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


So true...

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


Even if that was so, what makes you think you could rebuild your slavic union without and against that "foreign factor"? What makes you think you would be more successful next time?

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


Merkel wants that, Merkel always had a soft spot for Poland and wants it to include, to become a strong part of the EU.

Macron couldn't give less of a **** about Poland...

UK, Ireland / No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain [660]


Poland ought to take a good long look in his history book..."playing both sides" had left Poland always isolated and alone in it's hour of need. It was dismantled, occupied and destroyed again and again by it's neighbours as it waited for help from far away "allies".