News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


Please stop talking such nonsense. Christian values, Jewish values, Muslim values. The Christians have tried to do such a thing to the other religions just as much as any other religion has done. With the difference indeed that the Judaic religion has never tried to convert Christians and Muslims to Judaism the way Christianity and Islam has tried to convert ppl of other religions to Christianity. The Christening of Europe is a splendid example of this pushy attitude of Christians.

"us" and "them".

Seanus

Only in certain areas, Seanus. It's a trend that in more well faring countries religion gets less and less followers. With all due respect, religion tends to flourish in lesser developed areas.


She calls everybody a Jew who doesn't agree with her :)

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M-G (tiens)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

Here's my two bits:

Charlotte: Napoleon XIV - They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Haaa!
Sokrates: Exploited - Troops of tomorrow
aphrodisiac: Berlin - Pleasure Victim
MareGaea: Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Lesser: Elvis Presley - Songs the Lord thaught me

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M-G (is getting a bit sick - slight flu or sth)

The True Story Of Grass in Poland

I'm gonna start a new thread. It's called "What type of grass is currently popular in Poland". I'm starting this because I want to go live in Poland and I am afraid if I take a certain type of grass which is not popular at the moment in PL, I will be looked down upon by my neighbours. Of course, I could go to a shop that sells grass-seed, but I am very insecure and I am afraid that the shopassistant will laugh at me when I ask what grass is popular right now. That brings me as well to another question: what's exactly the role of the Jews? Why do they indoctrinate the poor and abused Poles into buying a certain type of grass? Must be the first step to world domination there. You would say that they didn't have time to indoctrinate the Poles into buying a certain type of grass, as they're busy killing Palestinians, Ukrainians and perverting and destroying the good, noble and above all humble Christian values. I know they do this, because Joepilsudki has found proof on the website of the esteemed scientist, who chooses to create a website called ihatejews.org as an outlet for his information, which is so hot that nobody wants to believe it. Or better: he's been muffled away by Zionists who don't want the world to know the truth about Jews who traffick poor and helpless Russian women. These women think they are getting a good and decent income as a prostitute, yet they end up being a shopassistent, selling Jew-manufactured grass. Cheehaw agrees to this because she has proof that all Jews are in fact Turks that first went under the name of Khazars and from somewhere in Central Asia infiltrated Eastern Europe and as they were doing so, they brought along the seed of the grass the Poles are forced to buy by Zionists.

Then there is the question of what house that garden will belong to. Since I have never heard of real estate agents and i for certainly know that there are no real estate agents in Poland, I go on this forum to ask the experts here how much houses in Poland cost. But then I get insecure again, because Bolek says that foreigners should not buy Polish houses and Sokrates agrees with this: Polish houses were standing there before WW2 and Polish houses should only be owned by Polish ppl who have lived in Poland for at least 2000 years. And if you don't agree to this, you're simply a little piece of human trash. And I'm not sure if I can trace back my Polish roots for such a long time. So I'm not sure, once again.

Then I am planning to get a Polish girl. Since I learned on this forum that Polish girls are actually aliens from a different planet, I am not sure how to approach one. I think, reading this forum, that I have to bring 150 roses and 5 kilogrammes of chocolate, talk about cultural things all the time, have to like dancing, drink loads of booze and not try to kiss her until the 15th date. Of course I have to make sure my CC is filled to the max because I will have to pay for each and everything she does. At least, that is what I learned on this forum.

In the meantime, Seanus will try to approach Joepilsudki and cheehaw to try to get them give proof of the metaphysical connection between grass, Zionism, mass killings and the desire to rule the world. Joe and cheehaw fall short in this respect, but they have found another website: fuckthejews.org.za, which says that it's true that the Jews through the selling of grass try to conquer the world, starting with Poland. They base this on statements by a certain A. Hilter, an Austrian scientist who did extensive research on the Jews, Jewishness and Zionism for the last 80 years and claims to have found a solution for this. They show YouTube videos with some black and white footage of dead ppl, which hold a cardboard sign in their dead hands that has written on it: "I am a poor Ukrainian and the guy laying beside me is a poor Pole and we both got murdered by Jewish Bolshevics, in fact, we all got killed by Jews. We always have been killed by Jews. It all started when I bought this Jewish impregnated grass." Nobody notices that the cardboard is brown and the text is written in English and with red and green markers.

Then everybody goes to drink Coffee and all is well for a while.

<to be continued>

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M-G (part 1)

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

Talk about the Last King Of Scotland anway....

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Seanus

Why doesn't everybody just simple stop all that BS and realises we only got one ball to live on and we have to share it with one another. Nobody owns the Earth, nobody even owns their country. If Earth decides that it's over, we're all gonna go. If we're gonna go, Earth will remain and recover from the crap that we put upon it. Maybe it's time we do before it's too late. I don't want to sound too defaitistic though.

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M-G (the Earth and Mother Nature will get back at us and we will lose)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Seanus

Well, maybe because Iranians are not Arabs. Remember Persians and Medes? Some say the Kurds are descending from the Medes, and in Daniel 6:8 he talks about the "laws of Persians and Medes". This has become an expression in Dutch, "That's a law of Medes and Persians", meaning that there is an agreement that's binding and cannot be changed. Medes are more related to Arabs than Persians are, but they're not Arab. Nowadays Iranians are a mixture of Persians and Medes.

Jews on the other hand are closely related to Arabs. In fact closer than one would think. This doesn't go in general for the Jews that lived in Europe, however. So, indeed, I would see commonalities, not the differences.

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M-G (not sure if this is useful, though)

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

How in the world did they end up in Uganda? The link doesn't say - basically that they were there. Exiled, yes, but why to Uganda; it's not like that's a logical choice...

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M-G (but still interesting)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Ah, so the whole world has to pity the Poles and constantly say that Poles and Poles alone suffered and that the Jews were cashing in on Polish misery before there can be a dialogue? It fits in the Polish tradition of self-pity, which seems to be a Polish national sport. And you know enough about the topic to form a valid opinion? An opinion which of course, if I may say so, points out the unwillingness of the Jews and the willingness of the Poles, just as it has always been? If you don't understand my statement in that particular post, it's not a shame, just say so and I will be happy to expand further for you. No need to hide behind silly pride ;)

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M-G (nearly lunchtime anyway)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that you would come to that conclusion. You guys' conclusion is nearly always the same anyway.

I could easily rebuke this by saying that a lot of Poles are neither interested no matter what the Jewish side would offer, but I grow a bit tired of all the efforts of painting it black and white. If you don't understand what I am trying to say with my posting, then say so and just don't come with nonsense or try to talk around it. If you don't understand it, pls say so, I'd be happy to explain it. Because right now you just go on your merry ways and generally refusing a dialogue I suggested.

Pls stop this "us against them" stupidity. We've grown too old for this. But if you want to continue to live in the Middle Ages, that's your choice. You should, however, abandon Inet, TV and all the other commodities of the 20th and 21st Century. Either roll with it or skip out. It's not that hard to understand now, isn't it?

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M-G (coffee)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

vetala

Thanks! I hope the msg finally gets through...Let's wait and see :)

Barney

You hit the nail right on the head, my man! I think it was Byron who said: "all that evil needs to rise, is for good men to do nothing". Well, I refuse to let evil grow, even if it's only those keyboard warriors and barking little dogs from a safe distance. Probably one can never root out the cr*p fully and completely, but let the good ppl rest assured that those ppl probably not so happy with themselves as well.

joepilsudski

You really didn't get it, did you Joe? You're not even Polish, but American. I believe in letting bygones be bygones. It's better to never forget and to forgive than to forget and to never forgive, like my wise (Jewish) grandmother always said when asked if she hated the Germans for killing her entire family and her husband's entire family. She was truly wise. And if she can, you can. Or are you too blind to see?

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M-G (what about the idea that Barney, SeanBM, Wildrover and Charlotte and a couple of others would meet up some time in Dublin for a decent pint?)

Life / How Polish are you? [74]

70% Polish in the second quiz.

You are pretty Polish. Nearly totally Polish, actually. If you put some more effort into it, you will soon turn into a Pole!

Ehm, salva mea :)

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M-G (mayday)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Just do some research and you will see. Personally I think that's the same as saying: "the Poles are not critical enough towards themselves". But when you say that, it's Polonophobia or Pole-hate one is professing. But for now, I just let you do some research on the issue and you will see that there is definitively critisism from the Jewish on the Jewish who were safe and did nothing.

I think Poles and Jews suffered alike. The difference in recognition (although I got thaught in University that the Poles did suffer tremendously - and in fact, I never denied that) is in my opinion due to two factors: 1) The killing of Jews was an international thing (there were Jews from all over Europe in the KZ's), while the killing of Poles was a much more localised thing (besides the killings in PL and on occasion in RU, the number of Poles who were killed merely because they were Poles in other countries -especially W-Europe was really not that high, if any) 2) after the war, PL disappeared behind the Iron Curtain; news was scarce from there and they were regarded as the enemy.

I believe in due time the Poles will get their recognition and perhaps there will be a dialogue between Jewish ppl and Polish ppl will take place, it just takes some time. And don't forget that most of the remorse about the Holocaust is caused by the "hypocracy" of many Western European countries and others (partly out of shame for doing nothing); plus the fact that the Nazi ideology foresaw a role for Poles as slaves within the Reich. This last bit implies that they intended to keep them alive, albeit only as slave. For the Jews as a whole there was absolutely no place and they had to be killed all, no remnant left.

Also, don't forget that Slavs are always mentioned in the list of victims of the Nazis. They sum it always in every documentairy about the Holocaust (even the one of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre -Jewish pur sang- does this): "their victims were: Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Retarded, Political Opponents, Communists." Just pay attention to it, you will see that it's true.

Piorun,

On this forum I have heard repeatedly (not in so many words, but the msg is clear) "the Jews have brought it on themselves" or "Jews are out to rule the world" and more. Just do a search on this forum for the word "Jew". And always they bring on some racist writer or a known anti-semite and claim this to be the truth. And that's what makes me sick in turn. Like said, Jews and Poles have both suffered tremendously - it just doesn't make any sense to blame one and another - it's like little children sometimes: "we suffered more than you guys" "No! WE suffered more than you guys!" See what I mean?

Oh and by the way, if you think that the Polish cause has been ignored by historians, then you should start reading more diverse historians, so far I have hardly come across a historian that willfully neglects the suffering of the Poles. And I'm a historian myself, I've read a great number of them :) Anyway, you should read Norman Davies, for example, a British historian who definitively doesn't ignore the Polish case.

Scotch,

You're right. Jewish ppl are ppl, just like any other ppl. Certainly not the demons some ppl here on this forum think they are. But you will find out yourself, once confronted with a hot Jewish babe :) In fact I think that most of those ppl who scream blue murder when talking about Jews, would definitively not refuse when they found a hot Jewish babe in their bed :D

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M-G (let's all just get along - the world is small and we only got one and we're renting it for a short time only)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Tell that to the anti-semites that still roam this forum. I have moved on, it's only them that keep bringing up the topic again and again. Not me. So if you wanna blame somebody, blame them for bringing it up time after time.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


That's not entirely true, there was a lot of critisism on why, for example, the Allies didn't bombard Auschwitz and there was a lot of crisism on Jewish societies (mostly from Jews themselves - compare the plea of Rabbi Weissmandl from Slowakia to the Jewish society in Switzerland) for not doing anything, there was crisism on pope Pius 12 for not willing to condemn the Holocaust (because he didn't want to offend the Catholics in Germany - on the other hand, he prayed for a swift victory of the Nazis over the Commies), in short, there was quite some critisism. Not only on the Poles. The Jews were perhaps most critical of their fellowmen.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

No, that is indeed a question the American Jewish society still has to answer. But like all massacres in the history of the world, the rest just sits and watches, only rarely the world acts when something like that happens: not only with the Jews. Who was there to help the Tutsis in Ruanda? The whole world knew what was going on, yet nobody of the Western world stopped it.

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M-G (shame on the world)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Oh, there was resistance. But it's kinda hard to resist when you're unarmed against heavily armed soldiers who are set on killing you at the slightest pretence, isn't it? But have a look at what Wiki says about it:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_resistance_during_the_Holocaust

There was resistance.

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M-G ("we shall outlive them")

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


I thought it was about the stimulating of the diverse EU memberstates, not about Yugo. Sorry for misunderstanding, a mea culpa is in place.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I've asked for that before, but they probably won't do that, V. Besides the question of who hates who the most, it just creates a nasty atmosphere and to be honest, nobody will get better off it or learn anything. I've said it many times before and I will say it again: we've got only one ball to live on and we have to share it with one and another. Let's try and make that a little bit peaceful, shall we?

PS: however, I do think though that they should keep the name "Auschwitz" in place for the camp - it became notorious under that name and I just think it's best to let it remain under that name. This is completely loose from all the negative bias surrounding things (and I mean from the Jewish side as well as from the Polish side), just my personal opinion about it.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Are you for real? Where do I say that indifference equals hatred and where do I exactly state that the Poles are worse than the Nazis? I think you should indeed spend some time on building that 10-foot crucifix in your backyard. And by change you should burn it and maybe even wear a white bedsheet while watching it burn. Would be fun!

PS: if you're trying to be sarcastic, sorry to disappoint you, but you're not really good at it.

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M-G (tiens)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]


Grin, I will set up a annual service in your memory, the memory of Charlotte the Great, the brave PolarBear who dared to stand up in the face of tyranny against overwhelming odds and founded this honorable thread.

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M-G (and we will call it Charlotte-Day, 16 November)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

szarlotka

Do I sense a hierarchy that is just yearning to be overthrown?

:)

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M-G (vive la revolution! Feline revolution!)

Food / Wanna buy Spiritus Krakow [28]

delphiandomine

I'm Dutch, so get me a bottle of it :D

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M-G (always in for a cheap night out)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

aphrodisiac

You're darn right :) Don't worry, before I go on my Xmas hols, it will appear.

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M-G (the unstoppable)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

aphrodisiac

The word Politics won't pass my lips.

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M-G (still I'm gonna write it)

Food / Wanna buy Spiritus Krakow [28]

polkamaniac

Spyritus, isn't that methanol instead of alcohol? If so, you can get blind of the stuff.

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M-G (but who wants to drink 96% alcohol anyway?)

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

Sokrates

And you are just about the biggest piece of trash that's in here. Listen, I don't have time for your bullcrap. I never advocated racism towards PL. That's all in your pathetic little head. Room enough there as the brain in your head is absent anyway. So shut the *peep* up.

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M-G (and it's worse, you are a very disturbed man as well)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]


Don't worry, it'll be hilarious.

How are the plans going concerning your PolarBear rights extremist group?

I see, I see, remarkably flexible (for your age)

:)

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M-G (still gonna write it)

Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

aphrodisiac

Is everybody allowed to participate? If so, I have an idea, something with a fairy tale like story about little Joe and Yeehaw deep in the woods and then they encounter the big bad Jewish wolf.

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M-G (looking forward to that)

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]


What you'd expect after 5 years of membership of which now nearly half of the time the world plunged into a crisis? It took other countries decades to crawl up after WW2, even with Marshall Help and without crisis. PL will get there eventually, it just takes them as much time as it did with other countries. And if there is no improvement, maybe you should question your own politicians or the guys who are responsible for the distribution and deployment of the funds which have been made available for PL.


Are you talking about Greece? Greece who lied about their state deficit and has now a deficit that's about 3 or 4 times as much as is agreed as standard? Greece that, unlike other countries who received a lot of help, did not manage to pull it's economy upwards?

Seanus

The double standards ppl here are referring to are for EU members, Seanus. Some of us here seem to believe that the EU is not treating them well enough, or they haven't seen any improvement. They all want it to go a bit too fast. It took other countries way more than 5 years to crawl out of the pit they were in, why is this to be expected for them then? I actually don't believe there are double standards within the EU. If there are double standards, then it's in terms of payment to the EU. Some countries have to pay 5 to 6 times as much in contribution than other countries, and getting not so much back from that same EU. I am not talking about absolute figures, I'm talking about the relative ones. Now, I'm not saying that NL or BE should receive a lot from the EU as we don't need to develop, but it's strange to hear countries that are cashing in relatively big time, complain the most about being not treated equally. I think the main problem is that they want things to happen too fast. They will get all the standards and bens of the EU, it just takes time. If you have, for example, a club in which members A,B and C pay 200 Euros per month and members D, E and F, only pay half of that and members G,H and I don't pay anything at all, it's to be expected that members A, B and C will want to have the biggest say in that club. I am not saying that this should be so as I believe in equal votes for every memberstate and equal rights and so on, but I don't want to hear from the biggest receivers that they have been treated so badly by the EU.


It's a cultural entity and what defines a cultural entity above anything else? Correct, the language. But I think your description goes for any continent, McCoy.


And if you go way and way back, we all descent from Afrika anyway :)

cheehaw

and anti semitic par excellence cheehaw is mingling in again and found another stick for the Jews whom she hates so much. Here's something for you to chew on, baby:

jesus-is-lord.com/sexabuse.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

Have a look at the table at the bottom of the page: around 1500 to 2000 cases in the US alone over the years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases_by_country

You will see that several countries have seperate pages on Wiki that deal with the history of abuse in that specific country...

And: did you miss the part that I condemn all child abuse, no matter who is guilty of it? All child molesters should rot in jail as far as I'm concerned. Be they Jewish, Catholic, Protestant or whatever.


I don't go to slums. And my tax returns have been pretty decent since I've been living here. Maybe I will fetch you a job, get you off the street and put your mind to more useful things than what you're doing now.


There are Jews from all over the world in Israël. Arab is an official language there besides Hebrew.


I could retaliate by saying God bless Dev for turning away the Irish during the great famine, but I won't lower myself to your level. You don't see it that often nowadays, ppl with a negative IQ, but you somehow are a bright and shiny example that it is pssbl.


I'm delighted for you. Strange that if you're acadamically educated (Hospitability it was, I seem to remember), such empty-headed bullcrap is coming out of you. And some academic you are when you don't even know where Morocco, Turkey and Guadeloupe is located.

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M-G (tiens, tiens)

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

McCoy

When I visit another country I do the same. I respect the values of that country and I adhere to them. But that's normal.


What exactly makes you think that I condone paedophile rabbis? I reject all children's abuse, be it a priest, a rabbi or whatever. I don't regard that as normal behaviour. So that needs to be proscecuted in any pssbl way.


Jews have been in Europe for about as long as Christians. Their respect should be mutual.

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M-G (tiens)

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Indifference is hatred's nasty cousin.

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M-G (tiens)