News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


It mean that a person that really believes in a democracy wouldn't make any disparaging remarks about people just because they make a different political choices than such a person would have preferred. You (as we are talking about you) wouldn't neither constantly dwell about their age (ageism) their educations (elitism), rural areas ( well so African 'refugees' from rural areas should be shot at?).

You claim to be a Marxist or progressive. You claim that you are an open minded fellow, egalitarian and democratic in your approach to people and live.

I don't see it. I see a dude who is elitist, who hate poor, old, less educated people if they do not vote as he would like them to. A dude with a totalitarian main set that likes democracy only if the option HE supports have an upper hand.


Hey Doug I don't deny you a right to have your opinion or to voice. I only said that you have no dog in this fight and you're OK either way. Also you take a notice of issues and things that are a quite alien to most Poles. Those issues are not their everyday bread and butter. In a way those are abstract, ideological issues that doesn't affect a regular people at all.

An unaccountable and corrupt judiciary system on the other hand is a very real issue that effect regular Poles, hampers and harms them in number of ways.

So opposing betterment of a live of an average Pole in the name of some abstract ideological issues is a nasty thing to do that is foreign to the every concept of decency and a common sense.


That is not true. There been protesting for years and the number of people actually turning up is very few and far between. Mostly some strange element and people too old to work.

Only in few instances of their constant obstruction and denial they had some genuine support from a younger generation, abortion and now. Still some 30 000 for all the propaganda of hate, scaremongering and money and whipping up to the frenzy by the traitors in the parliament is not much. Is there a million of those that support them sit tight at home - I doubt it. If there is a million I'm pretty sure there is no another.

As for those who support the government there is no reason for them to rally. The have won at ballot boxes. If traitors from PO try something fishy they might be for a big surprise, bevosue even those who are not very found of PiS positively hate PO, all the system cronies and all they stand for.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


Are you kidding me? a number of people on the street has nothing to do with anything. The crux of the matter is that regardless of all that hysteria, money from Soros and all that noise those who are protesting and those who support them are still very much tiny minority.


Exactly commies and all shades of left.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


once the heads start rolling it won't stop there where post-commies believe it will.


Stop your possessive propaganda of hate, I like to debate with you as long as you keep that red BS in check.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]

yes, they don't like that PiS won democratic election and rather destabilise Poland then take it that PiS is in charge. Due to inspiration of so called opposition those are the guilty once - traitors and they should answer for treason. They're destroying whatever is left from democracy in Poland. If there is blood they on . their hand, I they should know it won't be one sided like in the 80'.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


They might surprise you what yo know.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


Doubt it . It could be a good thing. To end soviet rule in Poland.


Dougpol for a small time alcoholic with no real asses and no axes to grind (beside some progressive BS obsessions), you're fine whichever party or whatever option is in charge. Other people Doug have lots to gain or lots to loose. You should just stop yapping about your obsessions, its immaterial. In other words another clueless foreigner puts his snout where it doesn't belong just for jollies.

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]


How about to give a kick in the gullies to any such a scum to spread this lie? I think they're going to have that in store for free.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


By scum, and soviet era military intelligence and secret police people in the background. Those who think they just despaired they must be a very naïve people..

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


That is not about Pis versus PO fight. I don't think much about PiS either while PO are scum and traitors.
The crux of the matter is the fight post-commies (system and people) versus those who want to crush it as it is harmful and oppressive for Poland and Poles as whole.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


Yes, she has been traumatised by her experiences of fighting against soviet Poland like many people. In a way she was on of those who ended up privileged after 1989. In my opinion she doesn't know what she is talking about.


I don't care, the other person I call otter.
I don't call maf a kangaroo but marshupial

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]


Oh and you are such a great and deep thinker and independent wise man. Bah, you're not so stop playing a referee here and stuff your whistle ..... casue you're not a one.

Nobody is that annoying like self appointed smart-asses.


They give examples, one by one. People who lost their livelihood and health due to criminal action of some judges are telling their stories.
I mean those are people with names and faces and their story can be checked.
The point is that those judges even if their wrongdoing is self evident or their are couth red handed performing a common criminal act like shoplifting are protected. Nothing happens to them, they are unaccountable and above the law.

Nobody claim that ALL are like that.
They just want to change the system to make system work and make judges accountable. Turn your hearing aid on while you are listening to the radio. Such a system and system people are the remind of the PRL and need to be destroyed.


Sure, should be reformed but not now. All should be perfect and hunky-dory, Well its almost 30 years and nothing happened and nothing changed. Wait till you're blue on the face. I suspect those are excuses of those people who are against the change but don't want to admit it to it openly.

News / 2ND MIRACLE OF THE VISTULA: youth mysteriously appear out of nowhere! [231]

gumishu]i Duda;

Yes, he cave in under pressure. That is an inevitable effect of a leader centred party. Anyhow that wasn't the issue were he should play for himself. He got not political instinct.. Unless the play goes deeper.


A very good point. That kangaroo is annoying saying some stupid and outlandish stuff that shows that his knowledge of the Polish politicks is purely superficial.


Frankly nothing. It is clear you are one of them commies and I expect from you the worst. You never disappoint.
I'm just confused sometime by maf but I suspect it might be due to the fact that contrary to what he says his familiarity with the Polish issues are far more superficial.

Law / Why does Poland not have a repatriation office? [38]


Talking about Israel? What is this to you?


That is a very good question, there is something shady about it.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


No, it wasn't. It supposed to create Duchy of Rus/Ruthenania. It never happened. So called Cossacks failed to deliver on their part of the bargain.


What? You are confused. Matter little, it had never happened. No point talking about it.

News / 60% of Poles say Szydło's government should resign [238]


Polls are not that reliable.

Life / Vietnamese community in Wroclaw? [7]


You are a cheerful soul, I give you that. lol!


Dude, look for a legal job. Make sure you got a job legally. That is a key. Once you get it, you can work from that. what possible, depends on you and your ability to adapt and learn.

First thing, the language, you need to know it on a basic level to communicate, to even think about getting a job legally. Don't go for shortcut and a job as an illegal, that basically is a trap. some people are able to escape it but most don't.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


Why shouldn't be trying? They were majority of the popular support in Poland before the war. Only due to stupid leftist who introduce a moronic electoral system they couldn't get there.

As for trying, there were some individual and they had nothing to do with ND or little to do.


BS, it existed as a geographical region. It is not about a state but about a nation. There was no nation, there was no culture to fall back to. No much of the history, less than Normandy, or Bretons, not even comparable with Burgundy.

It has little to do with neighbours. It date back to 12th century that whatever political organization that existed which by the way had been created by the conquering Normans/Rus from today Sweden, fall prey to the Mongolians.

However I'm talking about Lwow and this area. It has been land that the grand duchy of Kiev took from Poles in the 990', and that land was going to and fro until in 1340' Polish King inherited it and incorporated that land into the Polish Crown. Dusted.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


What are you even talking about? Endecja never had been in power, I mean that once upon the time they have formed a coalition and took a part in a one of - pre -1926 coup - government for w while or some such but not for long and than JP and his sidekicks introduced an authoritarian undemocratic regime in Poland.


That is a very peculiar sentence. Let me tell that is a biased nonsense and then some of the same. If you request it I can straighten out your somewhat twisted and convoluted views. Just ask. However it has to be in the random thread.

However the main point is that you failed to blame it on ND just because they were not in power before the war.


What was not that bad? The fact that in the Polish state, Polish language and laws took the precedence? What Ukraine eh? Before 1991 there was no Ukraine, only a soviet administrative region had been called Soviet Republic Of Ukrainian which meant nothing in the reality. Ruled by the totalitarian regime from Moscow.

In that context incorporation and theft of the ancient Polish lands by the soviet union can be called 'returning to Ukraine' only by a soviet or a commie.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


Nonsense, you don't know first thing about Polish ideology of the national democracy. Sorry, I have forgotten you're a commie for you everything what is not red enough is bad and fascism. whatever.


Sure, he was also a part of the ideological movement that stand for mass murder, ethnic cleansing, primitive racism and was worse than Hitler and Stalin deeds.

Each of them had a world power on his disposal so they are famous, they i.e. Ukrainian fascists didn't even had a country and their activity was limited to Poles and Jews and it had a huge impact only locally. It doesn't mean its not important.

Your comparison of Bandera to other independence movements is insulting and ignorant.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


Nationalist is not always a positive thing, it depend on a context and a country, Narodowiec is always a positive thing.


are you slow? it is nor about grudges is about today and a fact that people like Bandera and others are being introduced into the Ukrainian schools as their national heroes.


Righto, Hitler as far as historical fats are concerned never personally supervised mass killing never executed anyone himself, the same goes for Himmler he actually never have had killed anyone, once while witnessing an execution he became so sick he had to leave, he was a typical pen pusher, you can met such as he even today. I'm sure if you could travel in time you could have a nice chat with him and concluded that such a nice normal person cannot be that bad.

They created an ideology and a plan that had been executed. What are implying? That ethnic cleansings are generally OK?

News / 60% of Poles say Szydło's government should resign [238]


Right, a one track mind or a one pony trick. I wonder is that due to brainwashing in school or just being brought up in the world where Hitler is a pop-culture figure and not a real historical figure.

Listening to lies and BS of traitors, scum,crocks and other garbage from so called opposition can take its toll on anyone.

Few words of the truth directed to that rabble is not a big deal.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


Each nation has a different nationalism like each has a different folk music. Only a fool or a simpleton would have claimed that folk music is the same in every each country.

Polish nationalism technically is nationalism at all. The linguistic differences form a barrier here. Narodowiec and nationalist are not the same thing.

News / Poland - Ukraine. Młodzież Wszechpolska against Ukrainians. [180]


So, it is OK for German to build statuses of Hitler, Himmler and a few others. To Prise them as the great heroes and to prise by their ideology by Merkel.

Sometimes there is much more at stake than the natural differences in a historical perspective on the same historical figures between different nations.


No, it is a country created a by very recent bloom (or very late bloom) of nationalism. It is a new country with a new borders born in 1990/91.


You are the one talking. Just keep your advice for yourself. You and Harry all the time dwell on holocaust, anti-Semitism and whatnot, somehow Poles are to doing this big mea culpa even in factual evidence it doesn't really makes much sense from the rational point of view. Move forward - why don't you? As no one in Poland advocates the final solution or claim that it was a good thing or claim that Himmler was a hero and need a statue because he was fighting against the soviets union.

Here people who know what they talk about have a valid and justified reason to be concerned as to the direction the Ukrainian nation is heading by taking in as national heroes the most vile racist, totalitarian genocidal scum with the most primitive mythology on a racial purity and ethnic cleansing.

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


Pretty well, I said (do I need to print it in big letters for you to comprehend?), that Germany will be hit much harder than Poland. Poland doesn't have to buy stuff from Germany or France. This three seas project looks good.

History / Walesa says without meeting Mrs Thatcher in Gdansk Solidarnosc wouldn't have won [51]


No he didn't. He lied and changed the story few times. Now all the papers are in the open. He is not suing any more people who call him/write about him openly as a snitch. Nah, people call him Bolek and younger generations even more.

Defenders of the WSI ( the Soviet Military Intelligence (a branch in the Soviet occupied Poland) and their post-commie paradise for reject, soviets snitches and all kind of scum took Walsa on their standards. He is their symbol and one of them. They know the best.

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


Poland can go on without those 'subsidies'. I'm certain those money do more harm than good to Poland's economy. Germany and some other countries would be hit hard if Poland left the EU. Their citizens are used to an easy life and won't put up with a ANY downgrading of their standard or living.


That what those founds are for. Akin to the money of so called humanitarian help for some African countries.

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


No, the best question would be why Germany is bothered that some countries are looking after their own interests? If the EU is to be ruled by Germany and not to be a concert of nation that initiative has no sense at all.


Interesting that is the way Berlin see the three seas initiative as organization aimed to stand against Berlin. Do they in Berlin have their own plan for this region? A plan they didn't feel a need to share with their EU partners or ask them for their consent.? tsk tsk that wouldn't be nice, peaceful and charitable at all if this assumption of mine would have reflected reality.


It doesn't mean that they'll let go of Europe - that would have been stupid in the long run. Seemly might stop depend on the old (and always shaky) alliance with countries like Germany and France and shift they attention to build much closer ties with Central/eastern Europe (which is bigger than western part of the continent).

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


Not really. The press and German government plus their lackey in Brussels are not prising Poland for being a good little butler and a yes man. You can keep it tighter with Tusk and we can send you some more of your bought 'friends' for free. That is just talk. Clearly Germany should realize that it doesn't work. Push Poland some more and the EU will end on the German eastern border.


Seems like have at least 11 prospective partners in Europe that are willing to do business and have a vested interest in three seas initiative. All that supported by the USA. A very good beginning.

How many allies Germany really has? France, Austria and Russia? Good luck with that.


You have a very good hearth I do appreciate your concern for the wellbeing of Poland.

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


No! Matters little since you have no clue. Are you in your 70' by any chance. That would explain a lot. I'll go easy on yo if you're.

News / Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump [720]


Was that a big influence to nod? What are you talking about? Germany going against Polish national interest big time - north stream - and you're talking about influence.

Poland's interests and German interest obviously do not align. Happens, no big deal. Lets each do they thing. No hard feelings.


Well, I would rather Poland wouldn't have to choose. If there is that choice - I think Poland will chose her national interest. Plenty of countries that see the same way and share a common interests with Poland, including as it seems USA.

I think it is an easy choice.


Boo... what they gonna do? Build north stream 2? Wait that already are doing it. what else introduce an embargo on Polish goods and services? Well that is gona hurt them more than Poland - much more.

I Anyway - Germany have Russia and china to sell them goods to. Maybe they should focus on that rather than try and take on USA and Poland plus 12 or so countries. Friends - right?