News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]


I refer you to the earlier answers however if you have problems understanding them you might use the search function here. It has been discussed before quite adequately.


Unless all your ancestors ae siblings or cousins (admittedly in your case a distinct possibility) you are yourself mixed. What you refer to as 'races' all came from very different people getting together and making love.

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]

Now that is just incoherent ravings. The AK were fighting against the destruction of everything around them. In the PRL people (most anyway) actually tried to make life work.

So Pol3. You've avoided the question but will you now answer. In English rather than a splurge of something written in the style of second rate news copy. How much time did you spend in the PRL?

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]


Somehow I suspect you haven't actually achieved that much and I can assure you that I have a private bathroom, several in fact, entirely without the help of 'your kind'.


It really makes no difference. There is one race. the human race. Get over that and actually go out and achieve something instead of brooding about skin colour.

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]

Or just someone (who like most of the world) think that no man is an island and shared activities are infinitely better for people than sitting in front of a tv behind a door with five locks on.

News / Kaczyński presents alternative to PO thievery [26]


And of course that whole affair of the stations was a typically murky PiS action and one of several.

Fortunately they haven't got a cat in hell's chance of being elected either openly or through the back door like last time so it's very unlikely we'll see them get the chance to do any damage.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]


Really? Then again, the truth was always less important to you than fear and hysteria.

It's an important point. GW's ownership structure is entirely transparent and shares are traded publicly. These obscure right wing publications cannot say that.

By the way, I don't remember GW advocating pederasty.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]

Read the economics pages - it is solidly conservative.

By the way, who actually owns Gazeta Polska? It isn't a tradable company (fortunately given that it only has a few readers), the editor has bought out some of the shares, but who are his backers? Who owns the rest?

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]

They we and are, By plenty of people. Julius Rosenberg, Alger Hiss, Ryszard Kuklinski, Guy Burgess, Oleg Gordievsky, John Vassall. All of them traitors.

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]


I was at least there, albeit briefly, which I suspect is more than Pol3 can say and I've lived there for most of the period since. As opposed to taking a holiday once twenty years ago.

And yes, people spying on their own country are traitors - whatever their motivation.

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]


No. Most emphatically not 'somebody like you' since every sentiment you've expressed here suggests you would not help this mysterious group of others. The world gets by just fine without either help from the type of person who would write the above. Fine without spurious 'race theories' like the bell-curve etc.

And Poland will be here long after the complexions of its inhabitants have darkened.

by the way, learn the meaning of dysgenics

News / Kaczyński presents alternative to PO thievery [26]

Out of interest, what bits were left out?

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]


Out of interest, how long did you live in PRL era Poland?

By the way, the kluby seniorow, the klub osiedlowy, the various stowarzyszwnie in my neighbourhood all operating in PRL era premises and struggling now their funding has gone are very real - not propaganda films.

News / "Shale Gas Revolution" will make Poland a Leading Country in Europe! [202]

Agreed. Shale fracking is appallingly destructive.

News / Kaczyński presents alternative to PO thievery [26]

All fantasy since he isn't going to ever be elected again, not since the unmitigated fiasco last time when he got in without a being voted for and was thrown out as soon as the voters got a chance, before even completing half a term. I testing though ow he proposes to fund all that? From increased tax on retailers and banks? No. That one doesn't work. On confiscated property from criminals? A non starter!

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]


Very easily, when England and Poland have about the same population, are in the same part of the world and I've spent just over 3 decades in one and just under 2 decades in the other.

By the way, in the scheme of things Poland is actually not that religious. the JPII effect distorted things however in the latest statistics from Gallup of (I think) 150 major countries, Poland is decidedly near the bottom of the list for religious belief and practice.



Rather less (or more) than subliminally it is obvious that what you strangely describe as 'the GW clique' are in fact among the majority of Poles and the Gazeta Polska gang or the Nasz Dziennik cabal are in the minority.

By the way, church attendance figures are quite if enough news to have stimulated the interest in a non-Pole like yourself who's never lived here and got people on this forum talking so to what degree is it 'anti-catholic' to report them? Is it more acceptably 'pro-catholic' to conceal the truth and cover things up?

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

I must admit, I enjoy visiting out of the way places. Especially rural idylls and even spend time regularly in Podlasie. Though there is Poland B and Poland B. Off the beaten track isn't always fun.

News / Poland Parliamentary elections 2015 [1060]


And they will win. Gilowska by the way is not a vote winner especially after her past performance as a minister. The only thing in her favour is that the other big names in PiS are so ghastly as to be unelectable.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]

Your opinion is right to be humble, all the more so since it is far from accurate. The two social issues (I notice you avoid their economic editorial policies: odd since there are far more column inches about economics than social affairs) are not 'leftist-liberal' issues, indeed in the UK the conservative party is fully behind both of them. As for your claims that it is 'anti-catholic' I wonder if you can cite something to back that up? Though I doubt it.

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

Still a widely accepted and longstanding term, whether you like it or not. Nevertheless, despite the backwards habits prevalent in Polska B, the EU is pouring billions of Euros in subsidies to make the progress they have never achieved alone.

A Poland with fewer white people would still be Poland. Not the unchanging Poland of rosy-cheeked maidens and gallant hussars squeezing their own twarog in simple (but somehow noble) hovels and singing merry folk songs in the snow after a morning in church. But then again, that doesn't exist now, does it?

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

Google it and you'll find the standard definition. No need to thank me.


it will still be Poland. A very differ Poland but that is no bad thing and in any case everything always changes with time.

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

Who cares what colour a child is or where their ancestors came from? Kondzior, you are obsessed with 'race'.

History / Was PRL Poland? [37]

And most people got on with life. What there was in the cities was neighbourhood involvement, shared activities, organised holidays - basically a sense of community that waned as soon as the capitalist free for all appeared. The was also free education, free healthcare and a chance to get on in life without capital. It was at least as much Poland then as it is now.

News / 1.3% birth rate = Poland's slow death [221]

No bad thing really - some people are having smaller families and some are having larger. I don't see a problem.

USA, Canada / Who is better informed, the expat or the Polonia crowd? [144]

And some of them (Polonius3 springs to mind) have never even been here except for one brief holiday years ago. I suspect some have never been here at all. Which accounts for some of the bizarre distorted ideas they spew out here.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]


Yet they should. Gazeta Wyborcza is an essentially conservative newspaper and inheritance tax is a fairly normal part of life. These minority newspapers (who owns Gazeta Polska by the way?) love to rail against anything they can to feed their frightened and politically impotent readers but ultimately railing is all they can do.

Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]


Exactly. A wonderful place.

The sadly amusing thing (in the sense of black comedy) about these people who are railing against immigration is that they can't stop it. The world is getting smaller and nobody can turn the clock back. On the whole that's a good thing. Some of the posters here praise Poland's homogeneity however this didn't just spring up overnight. It formed itself naturally out of population movement and mixing - just as the homogeneity of the human race is slowly forming. One day, black and white will be a thing of the past.

Food / Is water in Warsaw artificially flouridated? [6]


Nothing at all. Fluoride in water is a good thing.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]


Why? I don't see anything unusual here or feel that it is worth examining the ethnic make-up of company boards - especially when anyone regardless of nationality can buy stock in them.

A couple of questions. Firstly, do you consider the board of Agora to be Poles? Secondly, do you think there should be restrictions on media ownership on the grounds of ethnic ancestry?

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]

And what? You may as well google their entire shareholder list. Pointless interest in the ethnicity of a company's board is at best an irrelevance and at worst a piece of destructive racism, something not unknown from the dodgier posters here.

It is also fallacious since Agora are a public company. Far more profitable to expose the shady individuals lurking in the dark behind Poland 'right wing' press.

News / Who controls Gazeta Wyborcza?? [216]

No. The list is long and Poland has a plethora of newspapers and magazines. GW is among the most neutral and reliable. And it's ownership is a matter of public record and well known. Some of the others are shadier.

GW belongs to a publicly traded company - anyone can buy into it on the stock exchange and as part of its securities filing it must observe certain proprieties.there is no need to ask who 'controls' is - Agora is subject to the same controls as any company whose shares we can up and sell. Most of Poland's right wing press are not subject to such scrutiny or transparency.

As for Kuklinski - he didn't make 'an oath with the devil' he made the standard oath on joining the Polish Army. He broke that oath and passed secrets to a hostile foreign power. This is treason. Even if one dislikes the politics of either the USA or USSR his oath was to Poalnd and thousands of others did not betray that solemn promise. Breaking that oath was subject to clear legal sanctions. A great shame he was never brought to justice.