Posts by 1jola - page 31

1jola

4 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Some Israeli journalists are morons. Is that news?

Journalists cannot write what they want without approval of editors. The use of "Polish Extermination Camps" (sic) is deliberate. Why? You tell me.

Despite the obvious protest against using such lies, Israeli, American, French, and Spanish newspapers continue to lie in our faces. Certainly, it doesn't mean that all the nationalities above are cupable of spreading lies; however, not speaking up is cowardly.

Anyway, I also left a comment to the article.

I see your comment along with mine in the trash bin of Haaretz. You and I made wrong comments.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

I do. But the only way of fighting ignorance is through spreading awareness.

So the Administrator of this "Polish" Forum moved this thread to News and Politics and burried it in some unrelated thread to spread awareness, I suppose.

I ask to return the thread to Polish History and I can change the tittle if it doesn't suit the Administrator.

And the phrase "concentration camp" still does not mean "Death/Extermination camp".

Apparently, the Israeli press has no problem using the term "Polish concentration camps"(sic) in reference to Nazi camps.

They have graduated to using "Polish Extermination Camps."(sic)

From today's Haaretz:

Hajda, four years his junior, was charged 12 years ago with aiding in the murder of hundreds of Jews in Treblinka, another Polish extermination camp, in 1944.

haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1131914.html

I posted this comment at the end of the article:

I wonder if calling Treblinka II a "Jewish Extermination Camp" would not be more appropriate?

Any thoughts on that?

It would be comment #4 if it gets printed. I doubt it, but let's see.

Perhaps the goal of this major Israeli newspaper is to stir up "anti-Semitism?", or belief that Poles were Nazis.

The Polish MSZ should sue this newspaper and stop asking for accuracy in their statements as this has no effect.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

vetala

This is a Polish forum so it is natural to discuss Polish victims. If you want to discuss Jewish victims go to a Jewish board.

dismissing but also insulting other victims

I find USHMM's deception in calling a concentration camp for children an "orphanage" insulting, don't you? They don't often call other concentration camps "retirement homes." Why this one?

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Have you heard of Radogoszcz NAZI prison in Lodz.

The surviving kids mention it burning as the Germans flee.

This prison was not for Jews, it shows that the Nazi's wanted to exterminate all the Poles aswell as the Jews.

It was a matter of time. They used Jews as labor for 3 years before started exterminating them; it would have taken more time, but the Poles were to be next. Many documents confirm this.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

In 1947, the communist authorities razed the former camp to build housing. It is possible that the memorial is located on available site near the original camp and not exactly where it stood. It was built only in 1971.

Two Polish students made a school project about the camp:

lernen-aus-der-geschichte.de/?site=pr20050914221245&lp=en

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Steveramsfan

A map from a book published by the £ódź National Archives: The camp (#3) is clearly within the ghetto walls.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

I don't get it. What is your post about.

It's pretty much standard, he has a Pavlov's Dog reaction. When I say there is little information on the subjedt, he has no choice but to say there is a lot.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Polish children in a German concentration camp are not worth that much to you after all

You prove to us you are an idiot every day. I certainly will make an entry and will write USHMM to straighten out their nonsense.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

you could contribute to raise awareness for people like me

I just did. Your awareness has been raised and now you know of a real Polish concentration camp so you can pepper various threads with it.

Tell your local school about it too. Along with poor Anne Frank they can study the only concentration camp for children in their Holocaust lessons.

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Apart from this one :-)))

Jugendverwahrlager Litzmannstadt

Oh, goody, you found a German entry. Pretty soon you might find the Polish one; languages you don't understand.

Polen-Jugendverwahrlager Litzmannstadt in £ódź for Polish youths (established 1942 to prevent mixing of Poles and Germans in the same camps) Camps for Germans children too??

The camp was for Polish children, not Jewish, not German.

Google Results: 926 for Polen Jugendverwahrlager Litzmannstadt.

I get 523,000 results for "turd" and don't think they are all websites about you.

Given the huge number of prisons and camps in the Nazi sytem it is no surprise, to me at least, that many camps are not well known.

How many concentration camps for children do you know of?

1jola

3 Dec 2009

History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Polish concentration camp

Those bent on using the term Polish concentration camp should be aware that there were concentration camps for only Polish people. The Holocaust industry, concentrated on Jewish victims, plays down this fact to the point of falcifying available information.

Case in point: The Polen-Jugendverwahrlager der Sicherheitspolizei in Litzmannstadt was built in the fall of 1942 inside the £ódź Ghetto on the order of SS Reichsfuerher Himmler. Complete with 3 meter walls, guard towers, and SS staff, this concentration camps housed Polish children aged 8-16, and in the girl section as young as two. All children worked 10 to 12 hours a day on starvation level "meals," were brutaly beaten, and sometimes murdered. It operated inside the ghetto till the end of war. German and Polish sources list it as a concentration camp, but Holocaust sources seem very reluctant to even mention it so don't expect to find a lot of information on it. I'm not aware of any books in English on it, but there is a German book and one Polish one. The Polish text is:

Józef Witkowski: Hitlerowski Obóz Koncentracyjny dla małoletnich w £odzi, Breslau (Wrocław) 1975

The USHMM (US Holocaust Memorial Museum) lists this book in their bibliography and describe it as such:

Concerns the identities and fates of the children of the 'Polen-Jugendverwahrlager' (='Holding Camp for Polish Youth') in Lodz, Poland, an orphanage created by the Germans for non-Jewish Polish orphans.

First of all, they failed to translate the tittle, which is 'Nazi concentration camp for youth in £ódź." All of the sudden the Nazis are Germans, and the concentration camp is an orphanage(sic) for orphaned Poles. It was not adjecent to the ghetto, but was inside the ghetto walls. The only thing they got right is that the internees were transfered to Ravensbruck or Auschwitz on their 17th birthday.

Had this been a concentration camp for Jewish children, you, dear reader, would have heard about it. As it stands, there isn't even a wiki entry on it.

Lagerkommandant SS-Stumbannfuerher Karl Ehrlich:

"Orphanage" staff:

When they sent your parents to Auschwitz, you became an orphan all right:

"Broken Heart" Memorial in £ódź.

1jola

27 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Yeah, this "persecuted" woman would be very popular with the in-laws at Christmas telling them they got it all wrong.

1jola

25 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

Do you really think patriotism is indoctrination? Gosh!

I clearly don't. Many Marxists do. I'm just trying to get to know you better.

1jola

25 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

For the 85% whose parents do not withdraw heir kids

Those 85% have no problem with it since it is their religion, 15% who choose not to attend can't have a problem since it does not affect them, so where is your problem? What other forms of indoctrination are you against in schools? Patriotism?

1jola

25 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

I don't know what does the fact that these satanists you know have children have to do with anything, but working with other people's kids doesn't bother you. I understand you now.

I think you didn't understand me though. In Poland, religion is optional in school. About 15% of kids do not attend those lessons. There is no chance of "indoctrination."

Just out of curiosity, what do satanists ask Satan for in their prayers?

1jola

25 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

I know a few satanists (I move in very eclectic social circles), and all of them (at least the ones I know) are married and either have kids or work with them.

You are against clergy in schools, but you have no problem with satanists in schools? Frankfurt School of thought, huh?

1jola

25 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I would feel a little let down if I were Jewish and didn't have a hedge fund.

BTW, I refuse to post on this thread :)

1jola

25 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

Interesting how the posts here supporting a so-called religion of peace are often filled with bile and hatred. If that's what christianity's like, then thank you, but no thanks!

Interesting line of reasoning. Basing Christianity on posts on PF. I didn't know we had such influence.

1jola

25 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

This thread should be closed just like "Jewish hatred for Poles" was.

1jola

24 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

children are 90% more likely to be sexually abused by a christian priest or minister than by any sort of occultist, pagan, wiccan, thelemite, satanist or new ager.

...and 100% more by an Alien. Do you know a lot of satanists who deal with schoolchildren?

1jola

24 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

Harry, please, no personal problems on this forum.

1jola

23 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

As long as they don't try to push their ideology down other people's throats.

I agree. The crosses are fine, but no compulsory religion classes.

1jola

21 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

The moment Muslim countries recognize Israel and promise not to nuke it,

Isn't Israel the only one in the region with illegal nukes?

1jola

21 Nov 2009

History / WWII Polish Exiles in Uganda [36]

I think you will agree it was actually the Polish communist government—who were not all Soviet.

Nor Jewish.

1jola

19 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

This survey:

"But she said she was "devastated" when Adam Atlas [Quebec Jewish Congress president] said to her that the greatest number of ghettos and camps in Europe were in Poland because that was "a Polish specialty.""

"Atlas, 38, later said that he felt he was expressing an opinion prevalent in the Jewish community about Poland."

Which Jewish sources would they be based on?

Gancwajch's Jewish Gestapo agents operated in and outside the ghetto. They were extremely dangerous to Jews in hidding and Poles who were hidding them. Polish underground had many reports on these agents. AK sources.

Jewish sources are not military reports but they are numerous though.

In pdf on "13"- punkt.ca/punk_7-8_2008/Steve%20Paikin%20&%2013.pdf

1jola

19 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

In fact we only know what really went on in the ghettos from those Jews that were in the Ghettos and survived.

Not only but, we do know that 95% of Jews today have not taken the time to read the journals themselves, thus only getting a sanitized version only, void of any shame and self-reflection, but concentrating heavily to blame Poles, where in fact, Poles had nothing to do with the ghetto.

we only know about the infamous 'Thirteens' from original Jewish sources... not Polish or other sources.

That's because you don't read Polish, you idiot. We know plenty about Jewish Gestapo cells from Polish sources.

1jola

19 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Yes, but the reference is to wartime ghettos and camps. Very few Jews know what really went on in the ghettos, and they frankly don't want to know as that would undermine their victim-only status.

1jola

19 Nov 2009

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

"Atlas, 38, later said that he felt he was expressing an opinion prevalent in the Jewish community about Poland."

The next sentence is even more shocking since:

His mother, born in Poland in 1937, is a child survivor, who was hidden by rural Christians.

...who risked their lives.

If I were a Jewish person I would have been afraid to visit Poland after reading an article like this.

It is from Canadian Jewish News.

1jola

15 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

I don't see what s the issue here, there shouldn't be any christian, especially in a very welll educated and high IQ country like Poland against taking off any religious symbol in classroom.

An appeal to intellect? How obvious.

We have always had crosses in our schools, except when some foreign occupant forbid it. The new marxists coaxing for their removal are the same enemies as before, except they promise better socialism, happier than the last one. Not Utopia, but something very close. In the name of equality, of course.

Wonder if the situation will ever deteriorate to the point where someone brings a case to court to remove the national emblem since it is promoting nationalism.

1jola

14 Nov 2009

News / Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools [364]

It muslim french students cannot wear a skarf over their heads....

What do French minority students have to do with Poland?