News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]



As you may already know It's 2010, the borders have been open for quite some time now, and we have different statistics now. Most crimes here are currently committed by Eastern Europeans. I can show you statistic from the CBS in a spreadsheet, but I'm not going to be able to translate it, so this won't prove much. But why I say that most crimes are committed by Polish males, is because they are, by far, the largest group of immigrants and temporary workers in Holland.

2% of all the Polish immigrants and temporary workers means we're talking about more people than there are Moroccans or Antillians in Holland. There are more Polish people in Holland than there are Antillians. Relatively speaking, Moroccans commit the most crimes, but since they're a smaller group most actual crimes are committed by Polish people. And I shall tell you something else aswell. In my region alone, I know of atleast 15 Polish guys who got murdered. They were murdered by Polish guys. They weren't murdered by black people. That's reality for you.

I'm not lying. Sorry.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


No, he's not. I know his background very well, and I can tell you we've both been very anti-PC in our youths. We're part of the generation which got dumped right now, because we questioned everything. Our generation was too annoying for the establishment, and something tells me that we still are, judging from all the lame comments I'm reading here.


You don't want to tell people the truth either, because you simply place the blame somewhere, which makes you only partially right, but you completely fail to see what's behind it all. Learn to see the bigger picture? Immigrants are being exploited aswell. Just like Polish people are being exploited in Holland very often! Atleast I'm honest about that, being a Dutch person, and I wholeheartedly disagree with the exploiting of hard-working people, regardless of where they're coming from. It's not skin-colour which causes criminality. That's something Hitler would say, and we all know how he felt about Polish people, don't we? Poverty causes crime. If you can't see that, you're blind, because I can give you dozens of news articles about Polish criminals in Holland.

Before you say anything again. I'm not posting those articles to show you how bad Polish people are. I'm posting those things to show you that POVERTY causes crime. Now it's your turn to be honest and acknowledge the simple truth. Open your eyes dude! It's not as simple as you're putting it here.


You have the right to be negative about us. But you don't have to right to slander and spread lies and falsehoods, or manipulated facts. It's also a sign of intellectual incapability when you're selective with the articles you present. There are always two sides to every story. Always. You fail to see the other side of the story. You blame it on skin-colour, and that's basically the same as what Hitler did. Time for you to acknowledge something, because not only is that being negative about a group of people in society, that's completely racist. Or do you really want me to quote a dictionary to explain the meaning of the word racist to you?


No he's not. He's simply pointing out the fact that you and your buddies are trying to intimidate and silence reasonable people with your hateful rubbish, childish insults and racist comments.


Freedom doesn't mean someone else's freedom should end where your freedom starts. If you see problems, you are free to discuss them. If you see problems within a certain group of society, then you are free to discuss them. The whole point is, that there are laws in Europe concerning racism and spreading falsehoods. I have to play by the rules, so that's why I expect you to do the same. Skin-colour does not cause criminality. Problems do. You're free to discuss those problems. So why don't you keep your racial hatred out of it and be objective? Maybe you'll actually learn something. I'm a very patient person, as you may already have noticed, and unlike you've showed us so far, I can admit to things I've done wrong, or things my nation has done wrong. Can you? Can you atleast tell us where you're really from? For the sake of honesty?

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News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


It's refreshing to actually see someone who does understand the core of the problem. Partially, because there are actually employers and lawyers aswell as politicians who actually oppose these people.


It's not sustainable, because they forgot about middle class. Most immigrants don't spend as much, and with the labour getting cheaper, they couldn't even spend more if they wanted to! So ofcourse I don't think I have to explain to you that they're collapsing on their own foundation. They were smart enough to notice this themselves, and that gives me hope for the future. (Because they're already starting to sing a different tune.)


I can see only one solution: People should vote for a party who supports their own working class, which usually are the Socialists or the more social parties, and in some cases centre-right conservative parties. I hope people aren't going to confuse the Socialists with Communists again, or even Nazi's. Modern-day Socialism has nothing to do with National-Socialism, or even Communism.


True.


Indeed, I'm not a racist. Look at how you started your story. Is this the fault of the immigrants? Or is it the fault of the people who are currently in charge? Why should I be mad at someone else who sees an opportunity for a better life? I'd rather be mad at the one who's truly behind it. I'll give you that much, you've noticed who the real culprits are behind it all, which is a good start. I mean, it's pretty lame and uneducated to blame a foreign worker for all the things our politicians have decided in Brussels.


Don't be too naive though, because societies will never truly be peaceful. There will always be some lunatics and criminals. I'm sure you know that already, and our history has proven this time after time.


I agree. Fair trade and aid programs will eventually create strong and civilized business-partners out of continents which are now everyone's problem.


Yes, but there's still no reason to hate on someone else if he or she falls for someone who happens to have a different ethnicity, or nationality. Love between two people shouldn't be societies' business, nor should it be any business of a government either. No one should tell people who to marry. (And no one should make it impossible for people to marry either, as we're experiencing now.) The truth is somewhere in the middle, and so are all of the solutions.

Not left, not right, but in the middle.

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News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Well, I've never done any of those courses, but to me it's actually so simple and logical I think any four year old should be able to comprehend natural behaviour. Do children hate eachother when they grow up together? No they don't! Sadly some adults make them hate eachother.

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Sure, just like Jarnowa heard that the Polish in Holland are completely innocent, because according to him the most crimes were committed by black people. (He figured all of this out after translating one homepage.)

Well, I am from Holland, and the truth is that the Polish are committing the most crimes here. (Sad but true.) When I post a news articles about it, they get deleted. Apparantly you're only allowed to talk about coloured people, immigrants and foreigners here, as long as they aren't Polish or white. So what's the matter? Can't face reality? I didn't hear this from hundreds of people. I've seen, heard and read this on the news, I see it happening around me almost daily, I hear about burglary, theft and robbery everyday, have been a victim of robbery by a few Polish guys for a few times already, and all the figures from our national bureau of statics don't lie either.

In some countries, coloured people have problems. Yes. But there are also people who create these problems for them. So grow some balls and acknowledge that. Then you're being honest, and maybe then we can talk.

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USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

Polengggs: The fact you're asking me speaks volumes already. Why don't you ask around? It's very easy to find a shady or unscrupulous employer these days! Why don't you go ahead and try working with immigrants for a few weeks? See how you like being treated like garbage. Why not? You can walk away every second of the day, because you can get out of that situation any second! They don't have any of those options, and they don't have any of your opportunities, so they can't! So why don't you? Maybe you'll actually understand what it feels like to be a slave. Maybe you'll see that these people are just like you.

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USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]

Maybe those people aren't always sick and jealous, but just angry because a lot of people exploit them, abuse them, and keep them small deliberately.

Maybe most of the people who boast of their own accomplishments aren't always honest either. Maybe most of those people are allergic to sharing. Maybe most of those people think they are entitled to everything, simply because they are in a priviledged position. Maybe those people earn millions a year, but still claim they can't honestly pay all their hard working employees a bit more, so their employees can actually afford a decent education.

Maybe it's easier to study when you're young, when you have wealthy parents, and when you don't have many responsibilities, than to study when you're always working, paying the rents and having to feed your family. So maybe your accomplishments don't mean as much to others as you may think. Maybe it's not jealousy, but maybe it's anger over all the injustice. Maybe you don't know what it's like in Poland. Maybe you should try to walk a mile in their shoes, having no resources or contacts who will help you whatsoever. Maybe you should work in those factories for a few weeks, just to see what it's like. Maybe you'll learn something from such an experience.

Maybe.

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Off-Topic / CEE - Central European Empire [49]

Pinky and the Brain? No? You've never seen them?

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Off-Topic / CEE - Central European Empire [49]

Still trying to take over the world with Pinky?

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Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

It's still Tyskie for me. (They sell it in the Dutch supermarkets aswell now!)

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