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lesser   
19 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Come on guys! The black ppl have been treated like second rate humans by us, WHITES, for centuries.

I can only join other posters here, speak for yourself.

It's so strange then that they develop a sense of pride and try to get rid of this yoke we have put upon then for so long?

Even if 'their' racism flourished from racist actions of some white individuals, this is still racism which should be condemned. It means simply that "their" reaction was not reasonable.

Wherever the white man came, he has always subdued the native ppl and always forced them to work for him.

Wrong perspective. This is not characteristic for white people, this is characteristic for empires. Bigger or lesser empires were present since humankind started to form structures which resembled today's state. This is issue certainly beyond ethnic boundaries.

And lesser, those black districts are exceptions.

Edit: Lesser, a question for you: do you live yourself in such a black district?

No, fortunately I don't. However I'm glad that you confirmed my logically consistent assumption that in ethnic districts racism is inevitable.

The majority of the black ppl lives in mixed areas and is not willing to slit your throat for a couple of quid. Ppl who do that are criminals, you're mixing things up here a bit.

You put these words in my mouth. I never claimed that blacks are criminals in general. As a Catholic I reject and condemn racism. Whether this is white, black, yellow or semitic this doesn't matter. I stated that slogan "Black Power" is purely racist and I did not change my mind because of your rhetorical fallacy.
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18 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Black Power is about equality and White Power is about superiority to other races. Not quite the same, I think.

Why don't you move for example one of these black districts of the US? They will show you this equality of Black Power, no doubt about it! Do you honestly believe what you write? How naive one could be! :)
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13 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

90 would be heterosexual, 10 would be homosexual

Statistic from PC handbook. So I must be an idiot to not notice that 10% of my family, school buddies on all levels, co-workers and people that I ever met are homosexuals. From my own observation it would be about 1% .

History is written by man.

In the face of feminists!! :)

I would replace "Humans", with "Europeans". Then your statement would had made sense. The rest of the world hasn't really made this planet any different.

Some other civilizations (however not all) also had periods of greatness.

Foreigner4

Lets simply agree to disagree when needed.

Never. European or from any continent...its all same. We all are humans...one race...HUMAN RACE.

Why don't you start verify your utopian doctrines by travelling yourself to some African country and trying to live and love over there. As you know very well people over here have no intention to participate in your social experiments. If you want to convince them, you must leave.

I'm disappointed by your refusal to recognize Bahaism as a religious version of Marxism. I should be thanked that I show you something that you failed to notice before. Be a man and deal with it instead write the same empty slogans over and over.

Just like the Bible is not applicable in todays world...

We can say that Catholicism practically New Testament. What you find not applicable in it? If not the Catholic Church Europeans could not stand up from barbarity that they were trapped after collapse of Roman Empire.

Speak their language just like you would any other animal.

Here I disagree, they should be treated better than other animals. In the long run their civilization have a chance to be improved. There is also chance that they will absorb western style of life (hopefully without its weaknesses). So, higher civilization should serve as an example.
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11 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Look dipsh!t

You come out with the strongest argumentation then I need to surrender... You win, enjoy. :)

maybe you feel insecure about someone that isn't you influencing people so strongly

Oh my goodness, you exposed me completely, my ass is shaking when I hear about him. :(
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10 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Then Christianity is a sect aswell. A sect of Judaism.

Judaism as we know (or don't know:) ) today and Christianity evolved from the same Mosaic beliefs into very different religions. You could claim that Christians were sect originated from these beliefs. They were considered like that at that time for sure. But in the meantime gained proper position while original beliefs almost vanished. Of course we can talk about Protestant sects but for example Eastern Orthodoxy is not considered as such duo to historical developments that leads to this schism.

IF you want we can discuss this in the REAL way in the off topics forum. Open a thread called 'Bahai' and lets hit it!

Open one yourself, you still need to reply on each every point that I made about Bahaism looking like variation of Marxism.

Marxism is different. Dont try to color those bealieves with something as stupid and communism. Communists were Anti Bahais and banned their religious places in Soviet Russia.

This is clearly religious variation of Marxism. How could you defend their social goals?

Of course communist establishment in the Soviet Union most likely targeted them, they were anti-religion in general until WWII started when Stalin ordered to use Eastern Christianity as a state controlled tool to unite people. Soviet establishment also targeted all kind of variations of communism incompatible with their own vision. Look at followers of Trotsky or Maoists. In your own homeland communists from outside of establishment (young Michnik, Kuron or Modzelewski) were often imprisoned.

They were and are still persecuted in Iran for their believe of equality, love, unity and peace... by the same Shiiayou talk about.

I can assure you that I do not edit definitions from FreeOnlineDictionary :)

Wow I cannot believe you actually have the audacity to assume you would somehow know the details of a relationship between 2 people

No I did not provide any details of their relationship. If you claim that they never talked about Islam (as a permanent observer of their relationship, I assume again :) ), I can hardly believe... If your friend was so impressed by behaviour of Muslim guy, he would most likely start such discussion. Beside of that if you would re-read my previous post, you would find out that I did left some margin, that my assumption might be wrong.

I second your notes about mass immigration from so called 'third world'. Such position can be defended from liberal perspective, because we are dealing with forced integration.

We are animals in my opinion, all of us.

You might be. Dont force your crazy opinion. I am a human.

One of the supposed policies (the one that I would praise) of Bahaism is agreement between religion and science. Why don't you follow this rule? Humankind is the most perfect form of life on earth but still belong to animals.
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9 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Who defined it as a sect?

And they are a recognized world religion by UN too.

Very bureaucratic attitude. :) There is no need anybody must define Bahaism as a sect. Bahaism simply fits perfectly into definition of a sect. While every sect is a religion, the first doesn't exclude the second.

But if you need to see somebody stating the obvious, here you have....

thefreedictionary.com/Baha%27ism
the doctrines and practices of a sectgrowing out of Babism and reflecting some attitudes of the Islamic Shi'a sect, but with an emphasis on tolerance and the essential worth of all religions.

go on.

Everybody who read political section know my views on socialism/communism. I criticize it very often so I don't think that I need explain myself more seeing similar ideas in Bahaism.

Global governmentthis is road towards central planning. Need I really explain why this is bad? Your own homeland faced such problems on much lesser scale.

Elimination of extremes of wealth and poverty? I do understand wish to improve life of the poorest people but why to target the richest? For fun? This is the worst form of egalitarianism!

Universal compulsory education In socialism everything is compulsory and standardized by all knowing state bureaucrats.

Unity of religion Religion often preach for different things so unity is impossible and would be very confusing for average people. One could become dominant but this is something else. Very artificial concept.

gender equality This is clearly blame men scenario here. Political correctness often reject biological differences that affect our capabilities in different matters.

An international auxiliary language I already feel in my bones this policy of government interventionism forcing us to learn artificial politically correct language that we don't need to know.

Obedience to government and non-involvement in partisan politics Obedience to government? Simply disgusting concept!
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9 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Its not a sect.

It is a sect, by definition.

It preaces al the good things.

Perhaps they think that they preach for all good things. I read article from wikipedia and I would question goodness of many points of their doctrine.

There are no MArxist sentiments.

It has many common goals with Marxism.

Wow, You knew absolutely nothing about the individuals involved in the account I gave yet this did not prevent you from making comments regarding finer details you'd have know way of ascertaining. Truth is my friend was surprised that this guy converted and has never made any attempts whatsoever to convert anyone.

Of course I may be wrong but I doubt it. I understand that neither you witnessed how it happened. While your friend bothered to explain Islamic doctrine. He could be surprised that this guy converted but this doesn't means that he excluded such outcome from the start. A believer who talk about his own doctrine always try to show it in the best light to attract non-believers. It is absolutely logical.

It's weird how I'm in a position which seems to have me defending muslims yet I'm only in a position assaulting faulty logic like yours and z_darius.

Your assumption that in my post I was attacking Muslims is completely wrong. Actually this is other way around. I praised this attitude of your friend and even wrote that I feel pity that Christians behave different (passively) as far as this aspect is concentrated.
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8 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Baha'i

This strange sect seems to affect your views very much. They may preach for religious syncretism, multi-civilizationism, global government or religious version of Marxism but this is all theoretical utopia.

People civilized on different ways cannot coexist peacefully living arm to arm, deal with it. Neither they should be completely isolated. They should trade and cooperate with each other because this is mutually profitable. Healthy relationship demands lack of chauvinism but forced integration only encourage hate. Less personal contact means less of chauvinism. Of course this claim is valid only if at least two group of people are civilized on different ways. If people are culturally close, this is other way around, more personal contacts, less chauvinism.

But he does have moderate approach and he is not afraid to say what he thinks regarding his moderate approach, what's more he definitely has affected his family regarding religion and at least one former catholic converted to islam due to the impression my friend's ethics and morals made on him.

A pity that this person never bothered to study doctrine of his own original faith. This is the only way how could anybody find Islam morally superior...

Anyway, this says something about Islam, even moderate Muslim as you say don't waste an opportunity to convert non-Muslim person. This attitude is so missing in today's Europe among Christians.
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4 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

I agree on both points. Dependence on the state becomes the norm. They either sink with the state or swim with the state.

In a normal society when immigrants would be known from raping girls and police would be unable to solve this problem, initiative would be born from the bottom. Group of native boys would solve them problem the best they could, some immigrants could be unjustly attacked but in the end local culture would survive. In a socialist state, the state is the only hope.
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4 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

That's true, lesser. They have been champions of socialism for many's a year. This has worked against them here.

Naive immigration policy is not the worst fault of socialism. The worst thing is that local societies are unable to defend themselves, they are so used to expect help from government that nothing can save them in longer run.

Well, he wasn't an enemy combatant to be fair. He was there to do a job and not get in their way.

Yes, but they see it otherwise and he was aware of it from the beginning.
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4 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Who really wants them now, apart from their own kind? What Euro-left people are you referring to, lesser?

If you would analyse voting records of legislations concentrating on immigration policy in different states with large Muslim minority, you would find out that this is job of the left. In Scandinavian states there is hardly any right-wing party in mainstream politics. I recently read about elections in Norway and all elected were socialists, communists and greens... By the way, my condolences to all sane Norwegian people :)

They beheaded Piotr Stanczak and he seemed like a good man.

This is is something else, he entered their territory and was aware of such threat. He got invader treatment. Such a civilization...
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4 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Euro-left so keen to let Muslim in, in the same time target Christians. Those are riders without head, because if radical Muslims would ever gain the power in Europe, they would be the first on the list to behead! :)
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4 Oct 2009
News / Mass immigration to Poland - article and response [479]

Lock them up for a very long time, and let them work to pay for all the damage they have caused.

I propose to sign agreement with Russia. Over there in Siberia is tradition of labour camps. It would apply to all native serious criminals as well.

At this point we no longer have the luxury to differentiate between good and bad muslims.

This is nonsense. How to solve the "problem" with polish Tatars?
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28 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

MareGaea

You remind me those Poles who claim that Bereza Kartuska was not a concentration camp. Neither you or them respect widely recognized definitions.
lesser   
28 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

Did the Soviets attempt to kill the entire Polish nation in Katyn?

It is neither only about nations. They targeted particular group of people on territory that they planned to absorb, according to their nationality and social status.
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28 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

It doesn't strictly depend on the number but the character of the crime.

Yes, exactly! Many people tend to change the meaning of words to make it compatible with their wishes.
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28 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

. With genocide one talks about 100.000's or even million ppl perishing.

Really? So I have good news for German (for example) National Socialist crowds. They can throw all 60k Sorbs living in this planet to death camps and still nobody could claim that they committed genocide.
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12 Sep 2009
History / WAS KATYŃ GENOCIDE? Polish officers were killed [237]

Presidfent KAczyński equated Katyń with genocide because "Polish officers were killed just because they were Polish officers".

According to definition provided above, Katyn was genocide. Anyway Kaczynski is a double faced twat willing to run endless historic policy. Why double faced? Because he used to completely ignore other genocide committed by Ukrainian OUN-UPA on Poles from Wolyn and Podole. The number of murdered is much higher and in opposition to Soviets they butchered everybody from a child to old people. Unlike Putin who don't worship people who committed genocide, Yushchenko building monuments to commemorate them! Of course Kaczynski supposedly so sensible about history prefer to ignore everything. This behaviour proof him to be a double faced liar with anti-Russian agenda.

Anyway this is not up to parliament to vote over history. This is just populist bread for politically ignorant voters.
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23 Feb 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

lesser: German lands have long history of being organized in such mood and somehow they managed to develop nicely, better than any centralized big state.

We always manage "nicely" thank you but you also don't seem to know about our movement to unify.

I guess neither Johann Wolfgang von Goethe could understand. Apparently he is one of those stupid Germans. During my readings I discovered that his views on this subject are much closer to mine than to yours!

Goethe on National Greatness
mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=59
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22 Feb 2009
News / Goldman Sachs says it will no longer profit from undermining Polish zloty [29]

If anything, then PiS want to discredit Marcinkiewicz who could be potentially on the election list of PO being still popular among people. However Marcinkiewicz already discredited himself, you know he certainly has "soda water effect". Still, currently he has nothing to do with PO. Personally I doubt that PO want him.
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21 Feb 2009
News / Goldman Sachs says it will no longer profit from undermining Polish zloty [29]

I know little about economy but even if Marcinkiewicz had anything to do with it, he will never admit to it. Judging by his latest media presence, all he is interested in is fame at any cost.

Marcinkiewicz merely have any idea about banking sector or economy. His carrier in this sector started only because Kaczynski wanted to get rid of him from media attention. Somehow pathetic taste of many Polish voters find this guy to be "charming" and according to them this is enough to vote on such person! :) Kaczynski was afraid of being overshadowed by Marcinkiewicz. (I mean just PR, not political accomplishments)

Later Marcinkiewicz was sent to London despite that his English was rather pathetic and experience in this sector almost none. Clearly political decision. From this time banks from private sector are willing to be in touch with him (still popular politician, promising prospect for important post in the future).

This is ridiculous to blame him that his advices lead to profits for Goldman Sasch on the cost of Poland. Firstly, because he has little idea about the subject. Secondary, because Goldman Sasch has plenty specialists, people whom really know something about this sector.

Personally I find Marcinkiewicz to be very small and disgusting person. However I must admit that he has a lot of luck, incidental PM and incidental banker. In the same way how he was not real PM (Kaczynski was guiding from behind), he is not advisor for any bank. This is all about politics and stinks of corruption mile away.
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11 Feb 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

lesser:
your beloved representative democracy

Well yes, I prefer democracy so sue me!
I really wonder why you then shoot so often against an "undemocratic" EU, it should be your cup of tea..

I don't worship democracy in any form for sure, neither other kind of political systems. Every system have its advantages and weaknesses, this is never aim itself. Anyway I do criticize the EU because they are not democrats indeed, while they always claim opposite.

Furthermore, I recognize superiority of direct democracy over representative democracy. People who participate in the first model can at least learn from their own mistakes, so quality of their choices should improve with generations. Representative democracy is a scam, people decide about nothing, learn nothing and additionally they are oppressed by growing bureaucracy.

However let back to our historic issue. Do you deny that after WWI all these national republics turned to be dictatorship regimes (mostly pathetic, might I add)?

Well Russians and Germans play in one team.

In politics there is no eternal alliances. Will you vote for PiS next time? You are a bit of Pisiak, aren't you? :)

Russia tries to reduce Polish suverenity.

Russian policy towards Poland is hostile and Russia tries to reduce Polish suverenity.

I find this comment ironic in the times when Polish elites selling out everything what left from Polish sovereignty. Go Lisbon! /sarcasm

Just out of curiosity... do you have any over there except for oil and gas?

Well, I have bough recentely Russian made compass. Good quality and quite cheap, I recommend. :)

gasp And still we are richer and more successful than most others! HOW DO WE DO THAT??? lol

Yes, the german nation is a huuuuuuuuuge success! Thank you for agreeing! heh

The appropriate place for your comments is sport forum. Over there you could write that Germany is the best over and over. :)

Why is Polish international policy based on opposing to Russia?

For the same reason why Russian foreign policy was so concentrated on the Baltic states. Politicians must turn attention of the masses away from themselves.
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11 Feb 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

How democratic of you!

After WWII your beloved representative democracy brought Hitler and plenty of dictatorship regimes in newly created national republics, including Poland. How can you still defend Wilson's system when we already know tragic outcome?

PS: Unified Germany now has one of the highest living standards of the world without being a military super power...go figure!

Small states are always more efficient, compare GDP per capita of smaller and bigger states in western Europe or in Central Europe. German centralized state is already socialistic and will face consequences whether you like it or not. German economy had 'crisis' already before problems in the US appeared. I have not intention to argue with you about this issue, I know that you are a socialist and such people never listen anyway.

Beside of that your attitude is silly, you seems to have a personal mission to show German politics always in good light. Unlike myself, I hate when Polish politicians are wrong and I do criticize them sharply, very often.
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11 Feb 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

What...independence and self determination for the Poles but not for the Germans???

First of all I'm not great supporter of national self-determination in general. However these German duties would be independent and ruled by legitimate rulers. German lands have long history of being organized in such mood and somehow they managed to develop nicely, better than any centralized big state. So, how could you suspect that I wish bad for Germans? You prefer higher living standard of average citizen or perhaps care only about being European military superpower?

Today I support the idea of one but highly decentralized Polish state. One state, just because of external security.

Hypocrite...it's people like you who made voting for Hitler an interesting alternative..

If Germany would be divided then they would not have opportunity to vote.

it was not a unified Germany but PRUSSIA who handed you your bloodiest defeats and your partitions time and time again...already forgotten?

Ever heard about Austro-Hungarian Empire or Russian Empire? Anyway I blame Polish aristocracy for this outcome.
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11 Feb 2009
News / Poland Should Beef Up Military [286]

around 1/3 of the Germans voted for his party and alot of their promises were about this Treaty and his fight against it!

German state lost the war, so if they expected a reward then indeed must feel disappointed. At that time Germany should be divided to many small duties. Local dukes would not allow people like Hitler to spread their BS.