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puella   
22 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions. [85]

You just need to read the nonsense posted on here by a few of them to see that

Well I've read and I don't like it as well. But note that skysoulmate, plk123 and many users who seems to be open-minded kind of persons here feel offended by your posts.

What the whole point is that they often don't know who their ancestors are - and are often completely refusing to admit that they could be anything other than Polish.

Once I've made a mistake and I excluded from discussion people of Polish ancestry by asking about Poles living in Poland. And I felt ashamed when some user told me that he was attending Polish sunday schools and was trying to do everything to cultuvate his gradparents' traditions and maintain national identity. Who I am to exclude anybody from being a part of Polish society or telling anyone that he is not a full value Pole?

I don't like people like those all Pol-Am PF users who make extreme statements on racial/cultural issues and who think that Poland is a last preserve for such ideologies. But note that when you are trying to needle them, you offend or make upset many other people by the way...
puella   
22 Feb 2011
USA, Canada / Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions. [85]

There's definitely some interesting correlation between "Polacks vs Polish" in the eyes of real Poles and their political allegiances.

What about this man?

Tadeusz Kościuszko

I'm the real Pole and I say you talk nonsense. What is more you don't have any rights to talk on behalf of Poles. Not every American Pole is a far-right bigot. You've hurt feelings of many people by writing such stuff, have you ever thought about it? What kind of man you are to deny anyone a right to identify with a nation of one's ancestors???
puella   
21 Feb 2011
News / Should government monitor the net in Poland? [38]

The news says that they will delete hateful comments not put authors into jails. And it's about sensitive people who read it and feel to be victims of attack.
puella   
21 Feb 2011
News / Should government monitor the net in Poland? [38]

Gazeta Wybrocza reported that monitoring of the Polish Internet will start in April to protect minorities. Is thsi a good idea, in your view?

You have written GW and posted link from wp?

Is thsi a good idea, in your view?

If Polish news portals were really intrested in high discussion standards they could easly solved the problem much ealier without any high-tech artificial intelligence programmes.

In some portals whenever I push the buttom "report", a window with registration/login pops up. Why the hell I can't report any comment when not being a registered user? The great Polish news portals obviously don't moderate comments at all unless they are reported by some user. If they really watnted to make it better they would moderate every comment before publishing as I see it happens on many foreign sites.

They turn a blind eye on worthless sarcastic comments which only clutter the forums... actually that news means that Polish portals will need to get rid of 90% of their forums. It would be easier to erase it all and start everything again from the scratch...
puella   
21 Feb 2011
Life / Young Poles' manners? [10]

Not really. He is just asking that on average are Polish teens etc a bit more polite?

Hard to say. Anyone would had to be a statistic clark to answer that question objectively. Maybe they are more respectful to elders... But how can one know that if didn't have much in common with teens in other countries?

British counterparts

Well there is a tv series in Polish tv broadcasted right now "World's Strictest Parents" and there is American and British version. Kids in American version behave much better IMHO, while British kids are more cheeky and like to raise voice.
puella   
20 Feb 2011
Life / Young Poles' manners? [10]

Someone mentioned (Sascha?) that individualism is less encouraged in Poland than in western Europe for example.

I don't agree at all.

idolise the same celebs

haha. Are you kidding?

This question is stupid because everyone is different. It's like asking does every Pole like cabbage. I know kids who are very unmannered and those who are really mannered. I know teens who like classical or jazz music and I know teens who like pop. I know those who are excited about celebs lives and those who are more excited about high culture events (the second group is much bigger though). Everyone has it's own interests and asking such questions as if we were talking about homogenius group is just ridiculous.

MTV (Mannerless Toxic Vision)

Most people watch MTV just to poke fun on people who takes part in MTV shows. It's like discovering unknown world were everyone is shallow... ;)

young people on a daily basis (teachers, coaches, disco owners, etc.) have to say on the subject.

There are two Poland. First Poland is Poland of middle class were kids are sometimes a little bit spoilt but they try to behave. They have their own hobbies and the future.

Second Poland is the Poland of "chavs". Chavs are neglicted. No one brings them up because their parents are pretty often addicted to alcohol or works too many hours to give their kids proper upbringing. Those kids stay on streets whole day and involves in risky behaviour. They have problems in school, many of them them become football hooligans, they have no future or really hazy future.

The obligation of society is to take care of the second group and bring them up if their parents can't do that. Unfotunately in Poland no one (including schools) feels obliged to do that.
puella   
11 Feb 2011
Life / $3,000-$4,000 a month - would we have enough money to live in Poland? [273]

who has not been in Poland (living) in 12 years, says that no one will accept two cats! Is this true? well behaved and litter box trained (Indoor only)? Come on is it that different there? Pls let me know !

I know ppl who were renting a flat and had cats. It depends on landlord.
puella   
2 Feb 2011
Love / Nature of Poles - the relationship of Polish families [7]

Is being secretive or clannish just a trait of Polish people in general?

No. It's individual trait of abused families. It means that something bad happened in your family and no one want to speak about it loudly.
puella   
2 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

but i remember on RTE back in 2005, a member of the audience put the following question to the panel.."with the large influx of Eastern Europeans into Ireland;could this mean, by about 2030, we could be considered a 'good looking people?'". The panel of conservative politicians looked a little shocked..LOL

Can I watch it somewhere? ;D
puella   
2 Feb 2011
Law / Question about the drinking laws of Poland. [45]

even if its a day before the legal age.

I remember when my friend was turning 18. She came to a pub with friends yo celebrate in the day of her birthsday and guess what! They (the pub staff) did not let her to drink untill midnight! That's true! ;DDD
puella   
2 Feb 2011
News / Polish teenager gives birth live on British TV [15]

It might be better if you don't speak Polish, as you don't want to hear the "colourful" language they speak.

There are subtitles.
Oh she just used few k-words, no big deal... I felt really sorry to see how much she suffers.

Not even 10 years ago it would've been branded scandalous,

not even the graphic images of child birth

Just look what things were shown 82 years ago:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IvDEPq2rBaQ
move to 2:40

but the type of people who come over to the UK to breed.

Don't be a facist. You don't know those people and their story.
puella   
2 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

Listen Ironside - I'm done with this discussion. You are talking through your arse and expecting definitions of "unique cultures" when you can't even do so yourself.

IS is just teasing you and you all took it too serious. But now you see how an ordinary Polish born PF user feel when need to repell stupid statments about Poland. It's like discussing with Harry, he always wants stupis proofs for obvious things...
puella   
2 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

Who? when? where?

I remember that someone was saying that Poles don't have own culture because everything which Poles consider as their own unique culture is more or less simillar with culture/traditions of other Central and Eastern European countries.

I don't remember who said it. Maybe Delphi, maybe Harry, maybe Fuzzy...
puella   
2 Feb 2011
Law / Question about the drinking laws of Poland. [45]

On the other hand an adult who is drinking with teenager can be accused of demoralisation.

exactly.

Imagine that in the USA they would be shocked that 17 year old can drink and it's acceptable...
puella   
2 Feb 2011
Law / Question about the drinking laws of Poland. [45]

At 17 she is well old enough to decide for herself if she wants to drink alcohol , and who she wants to drink it with...

In Poland she is not and I'm not sure if giving/proposing an alcohol to unadult is not a law offend.
There is a right in Poland that person under 18 is not allowed to drink alcohol and everyone should stick to it. It's not GB where the drinking age is 16... It's just about abiding the law.
puella   
2 Feb 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

Put it this way, can you tell me briefly and clearly about "Polish culture" ?

Poles are cunning. They value something which is called cwaniactwo (street smartness, slyness). They are brought up by the school with the romantic idea of patriotism but grow up to be oppostunists as this is what they are taught at homes. In Poland ethics and competence is not a merit. People just look on achievements, rarely on a way of achieving. They are completely mistrustful to each other. They see a trap and a trick everywhere. They are not willing to congregate for a greater aim. They are passive and look for other to fight for their rights. They rarely smile

It's quite sad but this is the way I see Poles and I guess many of mt fellow countrymen will agree with me.
puella   
1 Feb 2011
History / Esperanto - an effort by a Pole ... [122]

One of the streets in my hometown of Słupsk is called Zamenhofa

There is also a Roosvelt street in the place where I live ;D
puella   
31 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

I also accept the right of Poles not to be considered German : )

Actually I would really enjoy if some people said that Poles are like Germans. Germans bring positive associations while Poles not necessarly.

a different language

Btw. do Irish speaks Irish on daily basis?

Does she ?
like what ?

Some call it whiskey, some call it whisky ;)

But being serious now Irish culture is pretty distinguish and I wouldn't mix up it with British.
puella   
26 Jan 2011
Language / Napić się kieliszek koniaku [25]

Or wiater, like sweter :)

That one I also never heard...
I'm from central Poland.

What about chłopaki and chłopacy? Is it true that both words are correct?
puella   
26 Jan 2011
Language / Napić się kieliszek koniaku [25]

Anyway, Google has seen weirdest forms and usages, which nevertheless doesn't make them all correct or even remotely acceptable.

There are other examples. I just wanna show that such mistakes are quite frequent. I heard it many times that's why I memorized wrong grammar form.

When there was a tvp kultura short animated movies series about common Polish language mistakes there was an example with sweter that people allegedly say "swetr"... I never heard anyone to say "swetr". So maybe it works this way that in some regions somemistakes are more frequent than in other? How do you think?
puella   
26 Jan 2011
Language / Napić się kieliszek koniaku [25]

It's not logic, it's basic gramar :)

Ok I see I shouldn't pass matura, hehe

As a proof it's not just me who is an illiterate idiot ;D :

Po upuszczeniu sauny, napij się szklanki wody

spec.pl/uroda/pielegnacja/sauna-jak-z-niej-korzystac-poradnik
puella   
26 Jan 2011
Language / Napić się kieliszek koniaku [25]

Could it be regional?

maybe...

Unless you mean negative sentences, then it's ok - nie napijesz się szklanki mleka.

Shouldn't it be "nie napijesz się szklankę mleka?"

"Napiję się kieliszka" sounds as if kieliszek were the liquid you want to drink.

So in negative we drink the glass? ;)
puella   
26 Jan 2011
Language / Napić się kieliszek koniaku [25]

"Napiję się kieliszka" sounds as if kieliszek were the liquid you want to drink. Really terrible!

ok. but napiję się kieliszek wódki sounds also weird.

You will see many mistakes made by Poles which are a result of wide spread for years errors which found their place in colloquial language and are well rooted there.

That should be applied then to "kieliszka case" because I've checked in google and many people write kieliszka as well as kieliszek. Strzyga is right - her justification sounds really logical. Still I hear more times szklanki, kieliszka if used in such sentence than szklankę mleka:

- napiłam się szklanki ciepłego mleka z miodem
rather than:
- napiłam się szklankę ciepłego mleka z miodem

So as you see even Poles make gramatical mistakes ;)