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Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Would you discuss details of a military contract you've worked on?

Obviously, but since you never worked for a military and i caught you lying you'll claim that it was all top secret :)))))))))

Seriously mate i can go even further and fetch one of the soldiers of said battalion who can prove his identity by answering to anyone with a Nasza-Klasa account or Facebook and he'll tell you himself that these guys have no engineering duties whatsoever since not one of them is a certified engineer:)))))
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Why? He mentions his name on multiple internet forums and is well known and respected as an amateur but solid historian.

Are you insane or an enemy spy?

Dude... tell me you're trolling?
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

No i told you i know the chief of HQ, he's a member of the Lower Silesian historical association of which i'm a member as well and i had a pleasure of meeting him several times, got him on my facebook, got his e-mail, bet you feel humiliated now mate?:)

So anyway tell us what are these "engineering duties"? Or are you just gonna spam "its untrue" to try and save your face?
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

So can you enlighten us as to what functions these are? Also no they dont sit around, they undergo the same training as any other infantry unit in Poland though less time intensive to allow for other duties, typically only about 80 of them (the battalion is over 400 strong) perform representative duties at any one time.

So what were you supposed to teach them? I got Mjr Skroński on my facebook he's gonna be home in 2 days so i can mail him then.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Also untrue. They do have certain engineering functions should they be on active service

In case of war these soldiers are incorporated into the Warsaw 10th motorised battalion and act as Army Command bodyguard unit being re-armed with Beryls and mounted in Humvees and the like and as such they have no engineering functions whatsoever.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

I originally came to Poland to teach those guys and can assure you they ant that well thought of by the rest of the army for very good reason.

Sure you did, you're also an astronaut and and a superhero, got any more imaginary life tales to share?

So back then if you served outside of Warsaw you wouldn't get in?

Correct, still correct, the soldiers are drawn from units in or around Warsaw.

Would this be like the equivalent of the Household Cavalry in Poland?

The battalion itself consists of several detachments, the salute platoon (the guys who do the shoot in the air) several guard companies and a mounted company, the mounted company is the exact equivalent of various household and guard regiments in other countries like UK.

In a ceremony like the one above, would they try to have representatives from allover the country to be represented on parade? Or would these be primarily soldiers from the Warsaw garrison, if not, How would they decide on who gets to go on parade?

I didnt make it clear, the soldiers of the representatvie battalion are garrisoned in Warsaw hence you have to serve in the general area for convenience sake, privately you can live in Gdańsk or Kraków or wherever but you have to serve in Warsaw.

As for all over country, every polish division has its representative component, not all the same but representative battalion is the national level representative unit existing for the express purpose of well... presenting.

All other representative units are dudes who serve as regular grunts every other day.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Would you know how they select the soldiers to be part of the "Batalion Reprezentacyjny Wojska Polskiego", is it the luck of the draw or do they have some other selection criteria?

At that time? You need to be tall and fit and serve in the Warsaw central command disctict (aka be a part of Warsaw garrison units) then if you fit the criteria you were drafted into the Battalion, today soldiers file an application as its voluntary and considered prestigous.

In communist times you were also required to be an able equestrian to join the mounted company, today they teach you how to ride a horse since horses have become rare in the countryside.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

When have you seen the last time tanks on Ukrainian streets, historian? In Lviv it was in 1944 :)

In 1944 Lwów was occupied by Russians, not a single ukrainian tank or soldier entered.

Regarding the jobs: when people are doing nothing, producing nothing and getting money, how worse can it be to have them work for a bit more, but producing something?

Ukraine is one of the major military manufacturares in the region, no army = no industry.

If B is Poland, all of them will get there, no worries ;)

Unlikely, as recently as in 2009 Ukraine had issues feeding its soldiers, let alone finding spare parts for its tanks.
Sokrates   
15 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Both Germany and Poland were in the same situation, no nukes plenty of carriers.

In case of war Poland was to be peppered with nukes from UK, US an France (today history is silent about it) in a manner that would glass 30% of the country and kill the rest by radation, the resulting fallout would kill everyone in Germany within a week.

So no one would be using much nukes, Poland would die in a few hours, Germany in the next few days.

Specificially there were stores of tac nukes that polish bombers would carry to Germany.

I've read projections of it somewhere and its a horror story, Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Baltic States, Low Countries had a projected fatality rate of 100%, France had a projected fatality rate of 40% just from the initial fallout, Italy only 20% initially but over 70% overall due to water irradiation.

The craziest thing was that while Europe was projected to lose half of its population over a period of 24 hours and a total of 80-90% in the space of a month there were entire armies protected and outfited for the express purpose of fighting in that enviroment, you'd have in excess of a milion soldiers on both sides fighting for almost two months after the nuclear exchange untill they too would run out of supplies and die.
Sokrates   
14 Jul 2011
News / Military power (Poland #21 in the world) [97]

Globalfirepower is completely worthless.

I don't know how reliable that data is. For Ukraine they put 1 million active reserve and Poland has 20,000. Either we are crazy or our military reserves are far overblown. Anyhow, I don't know much about military stuff.

Like i said GF uses some magic numbers but numbers dont tell the story, Ukraine for example has almost twice the tanks Poland has but only 300-500 of them are capable of even driving from point A to point B.

Germany was offered nukes in the 1950's, but they declined, AFAIK.

Reason they "declined" was Russia which basically threatened to nuke Germany if it accepted, still Germans had nukes just not their own.

Good move. I hope the nonsense of inflated active army reserves will end here too.

It can't, more than a milion people would lose their jobs, thats enough to collapse ukrainian society given that the army is one of the few things that holds Ukraine together.

What happened here? I know Russia was planning a major modernization program but I'm sure if it's already taken effect.

Nothing, Globalfirepower is not a reliable site rather a political shoutbox for american media.
Sokrates   
9 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Ile kosztowałby wysłanie współczucia pocztą? Wiem jedno, że długo trwa, ale warto wysłać :) Mel pobił swoją żonę. Czy to jest normalny?

Jasne że tak, żony muszą być bite żeby zdrowo rosły.
Sokrates   
9 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Mel Gibson nie jest Szkotem i dobrze wiesz o tym, Sok.

Co nie zmienia faktu że Mel Gibson został sprzedany Anglikom przez Szkotów i zamordowany w okropny sposób, zakatowaliście mojego ulubionego aktora i żadne twoje kręcenie nosem nic nie da Sean.
Sokrates   
9 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Wiem wiem wiem, piszę z błędami, ale jest na czucie dla mnie. W porównaniu do innych Brytyczyków, taki przeciętny, jestem ok :)

Jak tak piszesz prawie mogę Ci wybaczyć że jesteś Szkotem i zdradziłeś Mela Gibsona.
Sokrates   
9 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Pewność Komfort Punktualność - PKP [11]

rany, daruj sobie fikcję ....

Najśmieszniejsze że to nie była fikcja, przyznaje bez bicia że nie jestem pewien czy łysy dziabnął brata we fryzurze w dupę ale tak to wyglądało a nie wstałbym za żadne skarby żeby się upewnić.

Zabawny tekst ale zepsuty przez chamskie wycieczki.

Czasem jesteś potwornym burakiem Pawian a twój brak kultury jest rażacy :-)))
Sokrates   
8 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

To Rydzyk ukrzyżowałby Jezusa gdyby uznał że przyniosłoby mu to korzyść.

Żydzior, Ojca R zostaw w spokoju, nie dość że czepiacie się Aragorna w Świebodzinie to jeszcze Tadzia jedziecie.
Sokrates   
8 Jul 2011
Po polsku / Pewność Komfort Punktualność - PKP [11]

Roku pańskiego 2011 a konkretnie wczoraj wsiadłem do pociągu relacji Wrocław - Zielona Góra celem który pominę milczeniem.

Siedzenia były twarde i płaskie jak cycki pgtx ale pierwsze pół godziny umilało mi towarzystwo rozmownej i fajnej blond dwudziestki, umilało tak bardzo że prawie nie przeszkadzało że intercity jechał jakieś 50km/h i wyprzedzały go sparaliżowane staruszki po amputacji nóg.

W tym momencie podszedł do nas młody łysy i wesoły człowiek i spytał czy mamy korkociąg. Nie mieliśmy więc zniknął w czeluściach wagonu obok skąd po paru minutach wyłonił się ze szwajcarskim scyzorykiem w którym ów korkociąg jest.

Dołączył do swoich kompanów, równie łysych młodych i wesołych i w trójkę otwarli bliżej nieokreślone acz walące skarpetą butelki i tu się zaczeło.

Najpierw, po mniej więcej pół godzinie chłopaki zaczeli się lać i to tak że szło echo, potem jeden stłukł butelkę na krawędzi blatu który znajduje się pod oknami pociągu i z radosną nieświadomością konsekwencji dziabnął kolegę w dupę.

Potraktowany tulipanem zaczął wyć jak zwierze i dość energicznie krwawić, w tym momencie pociąg zatrzymał się w Głogowie, straż miejska sprawnie wyniosła wszystkich łącznie z facetem który dostał żytnią w rzyć a konduktor przyleciał z mopem(!) szmatą i wiadrem, starł do czysta uświnione siedzenia, Przeprosił nas za incydent (!!) i poszedł.

Jeżdzicie pociągami?:)
Sokrates   
4 Jul 2011
History / Why is the Battle of Grunwald celebrated more than the Battle of Lubiszewo? [29]

It was also a free city

Nope, it was a vassaldom.

Depends what dates you're looking at.

Gdańsk was a "free city" only during the 1919-39 period, otherwise it was a polish vassaldom with far reaching authonomy.

it could not conduct foreign policy for example.

You know this, and I know this, but obviously not the starter of this thread. ;)

At the time it was indeed a manner of civil war, OP is correct.
Sokrates   
4 Jul 2011
History / Why is the Battle of Grunwald celebrated more than the Battle of Lubiszewo? [29]

The reason is due to that being a rebellion, by 1577 Poland was firmyl entrenched as an european superpower, Grunwald is where polish ascension to european power started however.

Strange, I have never heard of this battle. It isn`t taught in Polish history classes. Thanks for info.

Polish history passionate eh?
Sokrates   
3 Jul 2011
History / Poland obliged to make war reparations to Austria and Germany after WWI. Why? [119]

And the Poles under Russian rules were less superior merchants and businessmen, and less organized, that's why these eastern Polish territories are less developed.

Actually you're correct, because of the uprisings the polish elite in the central and eastern polish territories was more or less wiped out or forced to flee.

In 1830 Congress Kingdom (russian partition of Poland) constituted 30% of all of Russias industry, as a result in 1831 Poles were able to fight a year long war bloody and only very narrowly won by Russians, Russia never again permitted Poland to have industry whilst occupying Poland.

Hmm. Anti-Polish bastard. Ignorant moron. Nice. Looks like forum rule #2 to me.

Dont care, you're a prejudiced anti-polish f*ck.

not the German army fought against Poles during the uprising but mainly irregular troups, since the German army was de facto non-existent.

Rubbish, there was more than 100.000 regular troops in Greater Poland alone, the army itself numbered nearly a milion, thats what the books say, modern and not polish either.
Sokrates   
3 Jul 2011
History / Poland obliged to make war reparations to Austria and Germany after WWI. Why? [119]

Yes. I read here all the time how evil Prussia suppressed poor Poles...

Which it did and in the end it stole all the fruits of polish labor for itself to ensure Polands economic weakness.

and now, suddenly, Poles owned most factories? It must suck when two conspiracy theories collide... :D

Thats chiefly because despite supression Poles proven to be superior merchant, businessmen and better organized than Germans, under draconic laws they still managed to develop the region significantly.

And when it became clear that Germany would lose the eastern territories the German army wasn't in the position anymore to do anything, since the German army was in shambles.

See? Not only are you an anti-polish bastard you're also an ignorant moron, Germany had in Poland more than four hundred thousand troops who begun the operation weeks before the Greater Poland uprisings.

By the time Poles started to boot Germans by force of arms most of polish industry was already stolen and inside Germany or destroyed.
Sokrates   
3 Jul 2011
History / Poland obliged to make war reparations to Austria and Germany after WWI. Why? [119]

What are Polish factories? These factories were owned by someone,

By Poles mostly.

and I suspect these factories were simply owned by Germans

Nope, Polish factories owned by Poles were either dissasembled or blown up as in accordance with the general order of german high command there was to be no industry left for Poland to ensure Poland will become weak.

Got any other anti-polish remarks?
Sokrates   
3 Jul 2011
History / Poland obliged to make war reparations to Austria and Germany after WWI. Why? [119]

No...the thread was about polish reparations to Germany and a policy of scorched earth during WWI aimed at a non-existent Poland.
Both is not true!

BB the fact is Germans destroyed or stole all polish industry, the reason why Poland after WWI was so poor was because Germans either destroyed or carried away all polish factories none of your neo-nazi stormfront denial can hide this.
Sokrates   
28 Jun 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

oni wogole od wszystkiego umywaja rece i nie zamierzaja za nic odpowiadac...

Kto to jest "oni"?
Sokrates   
28 Jun 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Są tacy - dosłownie tacy? No człowieku, bez przesady.

Polonius popełnia błąd typowy dla ciemnogrodu, każdy kto nie zgadza się z jego opinią bądż reprezentuje punkt widzenia przez Poloniusa postrzegany jako szkodliwy musi być durniem, szowinistą itd.

Klasycznym dla zamkniętych we własnym świecie tępaków podejściem jest deprecjonowanie człowieka po drugiej stronie światopoglądu zamiast zastanowić się dlaczego ma takie a nie inne zapatrywania, myślenie boli a bywa że prowadzi do bolesnych wniosków których ludzie tacy jak Polonius wolą unikać bo jeszcze się okaże że to nie ICH racja.
Sokrates   
28 Jun 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Mądre słowa, które dają do myślenia!

Bełkot.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Kontrowersje niekoniecznie są czymś złym.

W tym wypadku bardzo.
Sokrates   
26 Jun 2011
History / The Greatest King of Poland? [117]

Lol Nathan i could figure you'd post a wiki like site, this site is run by a couple of 17yr olds, there were about 10.000 Cossack troops at Chocim, half of these were polish armoured Cossacks, as in Poles:)))))