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Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

You have NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to show that Kopernikus was polish but you chose to ignore that (Watzenrode family, using only german and latin, fighting for the prussian bund, member of the Preußischer Landtage etc)...well...it isn't going to change the truth!

His father was from Kraków and imagine yourself that it was Polish city. As to some Prussians and their nationality.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanization

Oletzko County was a historic East Prussian county with its capital at Oletzko. The county was populated by Mazurs, a Polish ethnic group. In the process of Germanisation, the proportion of Polish-speaking people declined steadily:
1818 - over 90% of population
1852 - 65%
1861 - 58%
1890 - 46%
1900 - 33.5% (German census)

Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I wonder what else of your family is from Germany, stems from german stock! :)

" The generic Polish term for a coat of arms, herb, dates from the early 15thcentury, originating as a translation of the Czech erb, which in turn came from the German Erbe - heritage." We had kinghts before 15th century ...:)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cedynia

"The Battle at Cedynia (also Cidini, Cydyna, Ceden, Cedin, Zehden) occurred on 24 June 972 during the rule of Duke Mieszko I, the first Christian ruler of the Polans (later Poland). There was a war raging over the western border of the young country, because Mieszko wanted to capture the lightly defended and economically important estuary of the Oder River, in order to secure influence in Pommerania. "

You know you can tell me alot and this coat of arms means nothing to me but most importantly what has that to do with Kopernikus???

I have name with -ski and I am not German I am from original branch of this clan.

Going back to Kopernik you choose Polish citizen pick on him and claim him to be German, you change his name and tell us lets share him because ... I don't see the reason to do it. I don't understnd why Poles should do it, some people in Poland have this name (more than in Germany) now somebody tells us to share him. Why? Maybe we should label citizens "25% German, 50% Lithuanian etc." Even they don't know about their 12,5% of lets say Czech blood.

It is stupid and Germans wouldn't like to do so when it comes to them.
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

See...we were there first! :)

How do you know that you belong to this part of German society?

PS: Now it's more than 200 years actually.....your proof of 1000 years is what?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rola_coat_of_arms

My father has two small items from XI century which are in our family from centuries. I will teach my son history of my clan (back to XI century) as my father have done with me. I have some documents from the past (not from XI century).
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veleti

In common with other Slavic groups between the Elbe and Oder Rivers

(...)
The remnants of the Slavic tribes were gradually Germanized and assimilated during the following centuries.

:) Hitler gave your family certifcate only 150 years back not 1000 years back.
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Why not? What is now Poland was once Germany, Austria or Russia...(and even further back it was where german tribes roamed freely)

You can take Serbs (Crow) or Ukrainians ... they are more much more "Germanic" than the Germans (if you folow Y DNA)

And that has to do with Kopernikus what exactly?

I've mised quoted you.

OK, let's use your logic for a moment.

OK harry the problem is that this all names exists somewhere and Koperniks names given by BB don't exist in reality only when they write about Kopernik there is such family Kopperingk. If you want to use pure blood key you will find that only half of Polish population is ancient slavic it is not exactly like some would like it to be.
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I want proof!

:))) don't try to make German or Prussian from me beacuse in whole Poland you can find I1A DNA...

Poor Nicki became rather an example for tried "polonization

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizard_Union_(medieval)

The Lizard Union or Lizard League (German: Eidechsenbund; Polish: Związek Jaszczurczy) was an organization of Prussian nobles and knights established in Culmerland (Chełmno Land) in 1397. Its declared goal was to combat lawlessness, although it discreetly sought the transfer of Culmerland from the Teutonic Knights to Poland

I don't want to know! LOL

like 30% of German population...
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I see a mixed breed trying to deny his german roots and being more polish than the pure Poles! :)

I,m not cross breed my family has been living in this country for 1000 years (the most propably much for longer). I have the same Y-DNA (I1a) as 18% of Polish people 23% of German people and 50% of Swedes.

Soldier in the "PREUSSISCHER BUND", bones identified as those of Kopernikus, NOT as polish - GERMAN!

Well it is nice example of Prussian Bund :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanization

Oletzko County was a historic East Prussian county with its capital at Oletzko. The county was populated by Mazurs, a Polish ethnic group. In the process of Germanisation, the proportion of Polish-speaking people declined steadily:
1818 - over 90% of population
1852 - 65%
1861 - 58%
1890 - 46%
1900 - 33.5% (German census)

I have my opinion about eastern Germans talking about being ancient Slavic or ancient Germanic etc ...
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Scientists say Copernicus' remains, grave found

"WARSAW, Poland - Researchers said Thursday they have identified the remains of Nicolaus Copernicus by comparing DNA from a skeleton and hair retrieved from one of the 16th-century astronomer's books. The findings could put an end to centuries of speculation about the exact resting spot of Copernicus"

Poles not only re-polonized his name to "Mikolaj Kopernik" (Ha) but tried to do the same with the whole man!

Soldier in Polish army, Polish bones - POLISH

CROW !!! Have you taken over BB account ?

I see you are typical eastern German who wants to prove that he is more German that he realy is (using Hitler terms)
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Softsong:So there are apparently Germans with the name and Poles with the name.

We can agree that Kopernik is real name but we can use latin Copernicus. German version of his name doesn't exists !!!
Prince   
21 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Apparently the modern spelling of the name is Kopernik. .

Yes Polish version of this name exists in reality - more of them live in Poland (138) than in Germany(58)

I AGREE - ONLY POLISH VERSION "KOPERNIK" IS REAL.

I think he means "of international" standing! A "ski" in the name and being known in the neighbourhood doesn't cut it..

you have problem with Polish people.
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
Life / Metal scene in Poland [39]

Kat - Cmok-Cmok, Mlask-Mlask

VADER "Helleluyah (God Is Dead)"



BEHEMOTH - Slaves Shall Serve
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
Food / traditional breakfasts in Poland [74]

Yes, chleb. Polish and Russian have the same Slavic roots, after all.

55% of Poles and 45% of Russians have more or less ancient Slavic roots lets avoid from where come another halfs of this societies.
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

You are German Crow ... :)

Merkel talks about her Slavic soul etc ... now I talk like YOU and Crow :).

She is German, it is my opinion.

In OUR reality it exists at least to the family Koppernigks times

Koper in Polish means dill :) and many people have this name, his father moved from Kraków :) he was Polish. It is simple. Name you claim to be true DOESN'T EXIST IN REALITY :) You can find it only in some German books about Kopernik and texts of supporters of this version.... it is only one case when you can find this name in reality ... fiction/popaganda.
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

It's Koppernig

Find me person with this name. It doesn't exist in reality.

Germany:

verwandt.de/karten/absolut/koppernigk.html

Kopernik

Latin was official language in writtig few years after Kopernik we have started to use Polish.

Erm...you want to debate Kopernikus with the help of Mrs. Merkel???

She is very good example :)
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Why should Kopernikus be polish...NOTHING supports this but still you say it.

Only his Polish name exists in reality - Kopernik ... what is more mostly in Poland. (we have made this point several times.

.something there is no proof for that Kopernikus ever did

we have made this point several times.

.not Mrs. Merkel (even if I find your interest in her rather cute).

She is good example to show why your arguments are wrong because she is very German.
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Why?

Why she is German ?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

Angela Merkel was born as Angela Dorothea Kasner in Hamburg, as the daughter of Horst Kasner (b. 6 August 1926 in Berlin-Pankow), a Lutheran pastor and his wife, Herlind (b. 8 July 1928 in Elbing as Herlind Jentzsch), a teacher of English and Latin. Her mother is a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany. Her grandparents on her mother's side lived in Elbing in East Prussia; one of them had Polish origin

Why she is German ? Her Grandfather was (in your terms) "ethnic" Pole.

Merkel about her Slavic soul

Sama Angela Merkel niezbyt często opowiada o swoich elbląskich korzeniach. Jedynie w wywiadzie dla "Die Zeit" powiedziała: Mam polskie korzenie poprzez dziadka. Gdy jestem w melancholijnym nastroju, myślę sobie, że odzywa się we mnie słowiańska dusza.

(Use translator)

She is German :) We don't want to share her. Copernicus mother had German name .... so what?
Prince   
20 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Softsong bambers in Poznań (some immigrants form Bamberg) were asked by Prussians about their ethnic group and they answered "Polish" so they had the same problems as other Polish citizens with Prussians... they were persecuted in result of their ethnic backgroud they were expeled form their houses by Germans they had problem in offices they couldn't work in some proffesions ... like the Poles because they were Poles . I don't think that they would like to be shared. Copernicus was Polish and I wouldn't be so sure about his mother Y-DNA :)
Prince   
16 Nov 2008
News / What Poland can't do right [113]

They can't build roads!!!!!!

Autostrada A4 Wrocław - Zgorzelec



Trasa, Autostrada A2 Poznań



A4 wrocław-katowice -kraków

before Euro 2012.

Budowa Autostrady A1

CHOJNICE BUDIMEX OBWODNICA


Prince   
15 Nov 2008
Travel / Poland in photo riddles [3134]

Last picture is form Poznań

and second one is from Warszawa.
Prince   
14 Nov 2008
News / Cadbury Wedel invest PLN 960mn in Poland by 2012 [19]

gowarsaw.eu/en/news/cadbury-wedel-invest-pln-960mn-in-poland-by-2012

2008-11-05

"Cadbury Wedel will spend on investments in Poland nearly PLN 960mn and will create 750 new job places, within the framework of the long-standing programme for 2008-2012, the economy ministry announced in a communiqué. The government approved the programme implementation on Tuesday and will support the company with PLN 14.18mn."

"The company wants to create a research-and-development centre, which will carry out research of the modern confectionery technologies for Cadbury Wedel group and for the European department of Cadbury Schweppes."

Work is in progress.
Prince   
10 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

PS: The whole argument is a bit strange, as we are arguing about the nationality of a person that lived in the XV century using criteria of a nationality from XXI century. But what ever...

Bratwurst is using criteria from WWII not 21st century and even if we take WWII criteria ... he is not right
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

That Poles want to stay Poles and Germans want to stay Germans? Where is the difference?

Post me picture where with document where Kopernik has name you mention. Find me Germans with such name... YOU CAN'T

WE CAN FIND PEOPLE ONLY WITH POLISH VERISON OF HIS NAME ... IN PLACES WHERE HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN WORKING ...WHAT IS MORE THEY WERE LOYAL POLISH CITIZENS.

I SHOW DOCUMENTS I SHOW FACTS.
Prince   
9 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

It was impossible for him as he probably never learned the language.

Especialy when he was studing in Kraków or serving in Polish army and his father was from Kraków and people with his name live in Kraków. This name is Kopernik.

But he did write that:

He was writting that Torinensis = from Toruń: