USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

Lenka wrote:


Entertaining.

Lenka, Havok asked you, "What you've got going for you in Poland if i may ask?" and you said, word for word, "This is very reasonable question and maybe someone can answer that but I cannot."

So someone asked you why you continue to stay in Poland.....and you don't even know why.

you also said, "


To conclude, you are the typical pole that claims to have no idea why they don't leave home, even though "in some countries my life would be easier". You're only rationale for not getting out of there is, "For me it's more about emotions than reason."

So there's no reason for you to stay, other than emotional attachment. You could live better in other countries, provide for yourself better, give your children or future children a better life, have a better/easier lifestyle, yet you just can't seem to pull yourself away. THIS is specifically what I do not understand about people. Deep, incredibly dependent emotional attachments to mommy and daddy to the point where they'll give themselves along with their children a life several steps down from what it could be, all so they can eat mom's pierogi and piernik.

I'll never understand it but if that's the life you choose, you must accept the consequences.

Delph wrote:


YES! szach-mat, McDonald's!

USA, Canada / Expat Poles swearing allegiance to the US - how did you feel? [157]

Lenka wrote:


I'll never fully understand this but it's something that keeps millions of poles from fleeing the country every year. Similarly in America, it's what keeps lots of people in the same town or the same state. They're unhappy, hate the weather, cost of living, whatever, yet they continue to sit in the damn place year after year.

I guess it's just that "home is where the heart is" mentality but for me, I'll never understand putting yourself through a subpar life just so you can visit mommy and daddy more often. Live for yourself first because nobody else will, that's what I always say.

USA, Canada / What are the odds of my girlfriend getting a USA tourist visa? [70]

Harry wrote:


are you honestly siding with Delph? My response was based on what HE wrote compared to reality, not on INA 212 and every word that it contains. How do the details of INA 212 take anything away from the original point I was making? What are you talking about man?

Delph wrote:


OH but why?! Poles don't overstay their visas and they should be part of the visa waiver program and they're a central european country and.....and.......and...........(not directed towards you in particular delph, but to many others;))

You know, it's funny reading this stuff now while living in the USA. It all just seems that much more absurd now. Keep up the good work!

USA, Canada / What are the odds of my girlfriend getting a USA tourist visa? [70]

Harry wrote:


I am WELL aware of the laws and regs. My wife is Polish, she came to the USA with me on a travel visa three times and I just went through the immigrant visa process last year for her......nothing you cut and paste will surprise me. go back and read page two of this thread. NOWHERE did I say that Homeland Security cannot refuse entry.

first there was this:

delph wrote:


this is HORRIBLY misleading. to suggest that everyone that goes to america has to "convince" the border guard to let them in and to then say flat out, "they are not going to do that with someone who has "vague" plans" is simply a false statement.

he then wrote this:


in response to someone telling him what he wrote is crap, which it was. he's trying to suggest that his experiences on the UK border must be the same, or similar to what goes on in the USA.......which it's not. he even compared THE UKRAINE.

The embassy in all countries reviews a person's case and makes a decision whether to give them a visa or not but it still needs to be written down in the laws and regs that they can still refuse you because it simply is another security measure. if someone gets a visa and then while on the plane picks a fight with half the staff on the plane, lights themselves on fire, etc., well, they need to have it written somewhere that they can lawfully say, "you're not entering the USA".

USA, Canada / What are the odds of my girlfriend getting a USA tourist visa? [70]

delphiandomine wrote:


Ukraine, USA. Ukraine......USA. Ukraaaaaaaaaine...............USA.

Delphiandomine wrote:


United Kingdom, USA. United Kingdom..........USA. The United Kingdooooooommmmmm.......................USA.

Wroclaw Boy wrote:


ding ding ding!

honestly Delph, you're so grossly ill informed about the USA, coupled with the fact that you've never been there....yet you continue to post this stuff. I know it's tons of fun to kick around the USA, this forum's favorite pastime, but it's inevitable you're gonna get caught slinging BS when you're lacking just about all credentials to do so. The only thing worthy on your resume is "fluent english speaker" if the desired position is "America Basher".

you really should go, Delph. spend a few weeks, see what it's like. have a laugh, walk around, snicker at the fat people, drink the awful domestic brews, rent a car and drive on a 6 lane highway and then pull off into a rest stop and slam down a bacon double cheese burger, that sorta thing. good times, man. good times.

but now i'm just repeating what I've said 1,001 times on PF. thanks for lightening the load, WB.

USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

ironside wrote:


me? bureaucratic? funny, i just finished a 4 year stint in the most bureaucratic country on the planet. maybe you've heard of it....

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

aphro wrote:


define "lovely".

aphro wrote:


go figure, the second week of February in Poland and they're predicting more snow. eureka!

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

I dig aphro as well. nice work.

what's the weather forecast this weekend? :)

USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

trener zolwia wrote:


yeah, i don't know about that. tell that to the thousands of law enforcement officers working on the border, fighting drug cartels, murderers, drug runners, human trafficking, you name it, risking their lives on a daily basis. America has thousands of miles bordering other countries.....how much can you patrol? how many policemen can you hire?

also, if we're doing a bad job of it, bad compared to whom? what other country in the world is faced with the same situation where literally thousands of miles of the country's border needs to be patrolled to keep out literally thousands of people from sneaking across the border by transport or on foot......every single day? now consider how much paperwork is involved with that many cases.

I know a guy who works for Homeland Security and he said that often times, if they catch someone trying to cross the border, they just drive them back to canada/mexico to a police department there and that's it. He said there's so much backlog in paperwork with all the cases that it's not even worth it to try and process the guy. It's either that or the USA pays thousands of dollars a month for each person they detain after being caught. Homeland Security literally cannot afford to arrest each one, process them, sit them in jail, transport them back, etc. etc. so they generally concentrate on bigger fish to fry. If Julio wants to sneak across the border to mow lawns and wash windows, so be it. Let's go after Juan who is planning on slinging crack to school kids.

the situation sucks but i wouldn't be so quick to judge how well or how poorly the border police is doing.

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

S2good2 wrote:


then I'd stay where you are.

moving to poland is not for everybody. in fact, it's not for most people. i saw my fair share of "crash and burn" cases througout the four years I was there. too much drinking, homesickness, boredom, loss of motivation and just straight up depression. if you're not full of **** and vinegar about doing this, you're gonna have a tough time.

it takes more than motivation to come to Poland. you gotta know in your heart that this is the right decision and if you're full of fear, your heart's not in it.

UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

ironside wrote:


or just 100% SUCK IT.

UK, Ireland / Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population. [200]

puella wrote:


yeah, i get that sometimes.

USA, Canada / Education transfer USA (Micro biology from a technical university in Poland) [30]

sascha wrote:


hahahaha. and what proof do you have of this? geeze, if that was the case, people from all over the world would be recruiting poles to come work for their corporations!

i know it's fun for you to crap on the USA and look for something poor old Poland does better than that "fat and dumb USA" but this is a swing and a miss.

not only is a master's program in the sciences in the USA more demanding than a "magister" but there is far more time spent in the classroom. no such thing as a "weekend warrior" master's degree in the USA.

a "magister" in Poland is a me too.

Magda: I have a magister.

Kasia: Oh yeah? Me too!

It's the equivalent of a bachelor's in the USA. everyone's got one.

USA, Canada / Education transfer USA (Micro biology from a technical university in Poland) [30]

landora wrote:


a Master's degree in the sciences in the USA is completely different than a "Magister" in Poland. ask around next time or do some reading before you respond to a thread topic you know nothing about. poles are so funny with their, "well it's no different than here in Poland" attitude.

and then there's this:

"And let's not even go into the joke that it is possible to get a Magister degree by going to school every other weekend for five years."

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

aphrodisiac wrote:


if you ask me, masakra is just skimming the surface of ridiculous polish words used on a daily basis out there. "super" still blows my mind.

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

Chicago Pollack wrote:


no. although I hear there's a Polish community in Orlando.

USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]

aphrodisiac wrote:


i have, but it's nice to know you're still including me in weather discussions.

and yeah, PKP is pure hell. quite possibly my worst memory of poland.

History / If i could write European history i would unite Europe under Polish language [67]

Olaf wrote:


wprost przeciwnie.

Olaf wrote:


what you call "rich" I call archaic inefficient grammar that nobody would want to deal with.

History / If i could write European history i would unite Europe under Polish language [67]

i can't imagine our entire world sitting around trying to figure out how to say "5 or more" of some new word that just came out, how to conjugate it properly, or creating 1,000 new verbs a year ending in "owac".

a completely inefficient language such as Polish is simply a bad candidate for a universal European language.

USA, Canada / Think you're Polish (and live in the USA)? [161]

this thread is hysterical. how many more "Poland vs. USA" threads can we possibly have.

USA, Canada / Things that Polish-American should know about Poland. [168]

ironside wrote:


it still amazes me how "vanilla" Poland is.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

barney wrote:


Elvis could still be alive following your logic.

what you are saying is that nothing at all can be assumed to be 100% factual which means that science, as a whole, is nothing more than people chasing truths that will never actually be truths in their purist form. you can show us 1,000 times over that something is true....but it still won't be true.

what are we even talking about.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

seanmb wrote:


which is why if this conversation remains so philosophical, we will get nowhere. it's full of "well anything can mean anything" type responses which is like saying nothing at all. I think I'm typing right now....but isn't it possible I'm in a 'The Matrix' scenerio and I'm really laying in a cacoon and I'm imagining all of this? you see what I mean.

So Barney.....please provide me with at least 3 things in this world you consider to be fact.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

milky wrote:


and this is a perfect example of something not unique to religion. even a "soap opera" can achieve the same results. "ritual" is not limited to religious experience as you have already pointed out. i think my bluntness is quite appropriate.

barney wrote:


the basis of this statement is incorrect. evolution is not a belief, it's a fact. you wouldn't say that the law of gravity is a belief, would you? this tendancy to call various things a "belief" such as evolution stems only from people who refuse to accept it usually due to their religious beliefs.

barney wrote:



again, a senseless statement. sorry man. don't mean to disrespect but honestly, what does that mean? science and logic? anything in this world that we understand to be fact originated from science or some form of it. whether some of the existing theories of science haven't been completely proven or that some things are completely unknown, we still will need to use science to move forward with them. nothing else. someone's "faith" in science comes from the fact that using trial and error and the scientific method will in fact get you real answers or at the very least, closer to it. even mentioning religion here is simply inappropriate.

barney wrote:


that's one of the things science tries to do and boy has it been successful at it for a very long time and will continue to do so.

seanMB wrote:


agreed.

as for me, i see very little room for philosophy with this subject matter. evolution is real. it's a fact. whether we know something for certain in this world or we have only begun digging at it to find out how something works or why something is what it is has nothing to do with religion at all.

I want to be clear when i say this: there are thousands of religions in the world but only 1 science. when i use the word "science" i am talking about all the people who are trying to discover new things or prove or disprove things in this world through the scientific method and trial and error with religion completely removed from the equation.

science can be summarized simply by calling it "people trying to figure stuff out without the use of religion/superstition."

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

barney wrote:


this is essentially a non statement.

what you are saying is limitless. you could use statements like this to essentially discredit ANYTHING that is thought to be true or fact in this world because "belief" has no boundaries.

years ago they thought that if a human wasn't sacrificed every day the sun wouldn't rise but as crazy as that sounded, no scientist at that time could prove them wrong. the information simply wasn't available. In today's day, take any belief in any religion that a scientist cannot disprove outright and you're looking at the same scenerio. same game.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

barney wrote:


if someone gets better due to their "belief" that some supernatural being helped them along the way, meaning it was in fact their positive attitude that produced such positive results, this is the placebo effect. nothing more, nothing less. religion cannot lay claim to that. what religion routinely does though, however, is claim that God intervened, "saved" the person from death or further suffering. claims such as these cannot be proved and are no more rational than a boat captain blaming the stormy seas on Poseidon. same level of crazy, same level of irrationality.

also, saying "there is no rational explination" also is not a religious claim. yet again you are making no seperation at all which brings me back to my original question.

praying to an invisible being can only change someone's life in 2 ways:

1) if the prayers are answered and their personal God intervenes....which is the equivalent to believing that Obama is a reincarnate of Elvis.

2) the placebo effect. not something "similar", but exactly that, which leads non believers to ask religious believers this:

What do you get from religion that I cannot get from another source? What results can you produce that I cannot?

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

Barney wrote:


Yet again, the placebo effect is not a religious phenomenon. It's a case of someone thinking in their minds that they're being helped in one way or another and that positive attitude can potentially improve their health. You do not need religion to do that, there are 1,000 other ways.

Let's take a scientific example: Someone's in the hospital with a terrible disease and the doctor tells them, "there's a new procedure, it has had remarkable results, almost 100% success rate, we're going to start you on it tomorrow morning," and voila, the placebo effect.

If you're going to talk about two things, religion and science, you must successfully seperate one from the other. The placebo effect is not unique to religion.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

barney wrote:


now you're making a different claim.

"the church" is an organization of people. regardless of what good doings a church may do, it has nothing to do with belief or faith, it's getting off your butt and actually doing something real, something you can see for yourself. getting someone medical care is not a result of religion or faith, it's either the result of people wanting and willing to help others OR the result of people helping others for ingeniuous reasons such as gaining political clout.

this is nothing unique to "churches".


and now i'm back to my original question.

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

Barney wrote:


2 things:

1) Calling evolution a "belief" would be grounds to call essentially anything that is thought to be known in this world to be a "belief" as well.

Is the existence of gravity and the effect it has on objects on earth a belief?

Is fire being hot merely a belief or will a roaring fire give off heat every single time?

2) How does religion produce results?

Does believing in Zeus produce results? Does believing in Poseidon yield results? Does believing in Thor produce results? What about sun worship....any results from that?

Any results from Jesus Christ or Mohammed?

News / Poland's atheist loonies have had their 5 minutes [239]

barney wrote:


but dude....that.....kinda......does sound bad.

uhmmm....is that like.....failed sarcasm?