Love / I'm a black African man and can't cope with my Polish mother in law [34]


In Polish and Russian society, very much so - the babcia/babushka has a very defined role. No bad thing, but some people do get frustrated by it.

Travel / Indian or Mexican food in Warsaw. [60]

Sounds like a great place for a fish supper

Travel / Praga, Warsaw - looking for some hippish cafes [15]

Praga is fine; thousands of people live there and the centre is safe but boring - none of the places you are likely to go to are down deserted dark alleyways.

UK, Ireland / Are you a Polish smoker in UK? [18]

But Polish Marlboro are a little different. They include quite a bit of Polish tobacco in the blend and, like Marlboro everywhere, the flavour has a lot to do with taste tests and marlet research done locally.

Life / Saw a girl in black openly smoking a spliff on a Katowice street today [49]

10 sheets? That takes some dexterity!

I fancy one right now, but don't know any dealers here, and probably that's a good thing!!

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


We don't know that yet. There are differing accounts, nothing proven.


Likewise


There hasn't even been a post-mortem on the victim's body yet to determine entry and exit wounds, never mind an inquest.

Law / EU citizen residency certificate to live in Poland [34]

I noticed that too. But If you don't get one, you still have the right to live and work there (or anywhere else in our great Union). If you have a phone etc anyway (or put it in a wife or partner's name, whatever), don't want credit (a mugs' game anyway) and don't wish to vote in elections; there's no need to get one.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Yes. Fortunately there were cameras in both of those cases. If we had to rely on the account of 'law enforcers' and their press office, you wouldn't even know their names.


When the police are trying to cover their backs, the likelihood of lies increases exponentially. The Blair Peach thing is only being resolved now all those years later.


Probably worth it for one night.


Illogical and irrelevant. And still missing the point about neutrality. By the way, why mmention communism?


Innocent until proven guilty? The customers?



Do you really think that?

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Do you remember the case of the woman early this year? She wasn't killed, but was unneccessarily arrested and kept in the cells overnight because the arresting officers wanted to go off shift and do the paperwork in the morning. She got several thousand Euros, and her case was one of several similar. It was quite well covered with the press and I think there are posts here about it.


Remember the witnesses cast some doubt on that.


The calm voice of intelligent debate. And maturity and experience - some of us have socks we bought before 1983!

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Somewhat illogical. The entire market? All traders? All customers? You assume too much as usual.


Too ridiculous to comment on. But I will. You seem to be saying that the organisation's own press office is neutral!


Firstly, we don't know that he did "assault a policeman" I assume you mean police officer, but anyway - Rz have already written that witnesses say he was trying to escape. The truth will no doubt come out in the end. Secondly, the European Courts have already awarded large sums of money to victims of the Warsaw police and if he was indeed shot while running away they will probably do so again.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Where does it say that the witnesses are "illegals"? Even if they were (and we don't know that) their testimony is no less valid. The reverse if anything, since they are risking deportation and worse by giving a testimony.


How can the same organisation be neutral? An independent third party would be neutral, wouldn't it?


No doubt they are. The European Court more so.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Read the article from RP. Witnesses say he was trying to escape.

Only the Police's own press office (not a paragon of neutrality) say anything about trying to disarm him. Camera footage would help here.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Not that good if someone paid (and presumably trained) as a plain-clothed police officer to keep the peace and protect the public lets him/herself get in a situation where a suspect can "attempt to wrestle the gun from its holster" and end up shooting an unarmed person dead in a probably crowded place, in broad daylight. Near a Police Station too.


Quite.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Typical Polish charm. Misspelt too.


A professional Police officer might be expected to take a bit more care.


Gets worse.


The unarmed "assailant".


A very interesting point. I wonder if there's anything on film, either security camera or someone's mobile.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


That's the question, isn't it. Any and all witness statements need to be collated and not by the police who in Poland are untrustworthy.


See the above reply. And reflect that he shot and killed a presumably unarmed guy.


How do you know that he was a) uninvited and b) doing "illegal stuff"?

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Sound like a pretty incompetent Police officer if the guy got that close. And if the officer was plain-clothed, where was the holster? But then again, the truth is probably rather different. Let's hope the killer is brought to justice and isn't just allowed to hide behind his badge.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Ahh lovely Polish charm.


I presume you mean "police officer", and have you spent much time in the KriPo part of Polish police stations. Wall to wall leather jackets and buzz cuts.


And how could he do that bare-handed? Maybe he was Superman.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Probably nastier. Some of themm look like mafia, dress like mafia and behave like mafia. Draw your own conclusions why.


Add to the equation that you're (probably) not here illegally, not from thousands of miles away and a different culture, not a market trader and probably treated far better than him and perhaps even you can understand the situation.


Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.


Fortunately, in Poland people think differently to you on this point. Most people would prefer the courts to deal with it.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


They knew (or should have known if there was one normal IQ among them) that some situations require a little more tact, especially when the group they are dealing with have different cultural expectations.

And the drugs etc. at stadion stopped years ago, not that it was especially prolific anyway. And the guns, drugs, alcohol were allegedly being sold by Russians, Poles and Ukrainians.

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]

If they are thuggish, threatening and unidentified, yes. Normal and prudent.

And in which fantasy of yours do you assume that the Polish police "ask politely" for anything?

News / Polish Policeman shoots down a foreigner in Warsaw [300]


Exactly that. Poland has had twenty years of democracy to sort the police out, and they have failed. The Police should be professionals, however in Poland the 'police' are often semi-literates with psychological issues. And corrupt too. They used to be worse than they are now, but it will be years before they achieve even a minimal level of decency, intelligence and ethics. They often do much more harm than good. I thought they (in the capital at any rate) were improving, but it seems they aren't. When I reported a crime recently, they were actually surprisingly good at first, but then one of the uniformed grunts started to get quite nasty when I wouldn't press charges. Even the detective involved was trying to persuade me to have the person charged, explaining how much compensation I would be able to get, and how the amount would depend on what I claimed had happened. Presumably they are judged (paid?) on results. And despite high unemployment in Poland, they still don't attract graduates.

Was the Nigerian guy definitely armed? Did they use a proper armed response unit? What were they actually doing at stadion? Did they go into a difficult situation without backup? Did they make the situation better or worse. Was killing him by gunfire in cold blood their only option?

Travel / Indian or Mexican food in Warsaw. [60]

Centrum. Then get any tram heading west. Get off two stops after the railway station, and you'll just have passed it on your left.

Travel / Indian or Mexican food in Warsaw. [60]

Aarti is at al. Jerozolimskie 121 - it's worth visiting mapa.targeo.pl/adres/Restauracja/Restauracja%20Arti%20Al%20Jero zolimskie%20121%20Warszawa~3390728

Travel / WARSAW OLD-TOWN RESTAURANTS? [25]


Good God! It was the best restaurant in that part of town.

Does that mean the topless hairdresser on ul. Zelazna has gone too? I was always intrigued by that place but never went in.

Lotos on Belwederska (corner of Gagarina) is worth trying. It's just about pre-war and has odd PRL era decor. Good reasonably priced food too. Very loyal clientele, some of them going there for donkeys' years. I get the impression that in pre-1989 not many of them had to worry about rations and queueing...

The scruffier place in the same building just round the corner on Gagarina is even cheaper but is served by the same kitchen.

Travel / WARSAW OLD-TOWN RESTAURANTS? [25]

Try Boston Port on ul Zelazna (and a smaller branch with outdoor tables on ul. Pulawska behind Banja Luka Restaurant close to the Warszawianka pool). It's a mix of traditional Polish and East Coast American. Best fish in Warsaw.

Travel / WARSAW OLD-TOWN RESTAURANTS? [25]


Avoid Tandoori Palace - it used to be OK, but isn't any more. Dunno what happened to them. Buddha Bar isn't great either. Maharajah has good food, but the atmosphere isn't anything to write home about.

Food / Powidła - Poland's versatile plum butter [19]


I've never heard it called butter before.


Tried? Tried??!? Eaten it thousands of times. The ready-made stuff from Lowicz (a processed food factory) is nothing like the real thing. A lady I know makes plenty of it, and it's wonderful. Not at all easy to make well.

News / Poland gets a little bigger:) [82]


You think it's a great injustice to be on the Czech side of the border?

Mind you, we're all in the Union now anyway...

Travel / WARSAW OLD-TOWN RESTAURANTS? [25]

Try Aarti, on al. Jerozolimskie between the pl. Zawiszy and the pl. Starynkiewicza tramstops. They're quite good, and I notice they're opening a branch in the Old Town.

Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]


Do you think that all gays are effeminate?


What might that be?