History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

No, Kaprys, it definitely isn't OK. Racism (or any other sort of discrimination) is never OK.

Poland and Poles are mentioned here bcause that's the topic of the forum. Doubtless on a foreign-language forum about the UK, people are posting about racism there. It wouldn't be towards Jewish people though - more likely about other groups.

I'd say though that there is much more anti-semitism in PL than in English-speaking countries. I say that from my experience, and can't help thinking about that CBOS poll about who people would be happy living next to. I think the result relating to Jewish people would be different in the UK. There, the bete noir group would probably be Pakistanis. It would be interesting to speculate what the result would be if they were on the CBOS list.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


Indeed. This does happen, and of course there are Poles in the UK (for a decade or more, not just for the duration of a degree or a training programme) who can't ring for a taxi. Not everyone has the same aptitude for language learning.


Not a consideration.

Good that the increasing number of studenty jobs in Poland is attracting young people who want to study and perhaps settle.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


'Should be' but isn't. People studying oin a degree course in a language that isn't their own (English) are generally too busy to study a Slavonic language at the same time, unless they're going to stay, in which case they do of course learn Polish.


'Economic oppression' is hardly unusual for students, especially while capitalism is unfortunately allowed to persist, and 'chain migration' is the way the world works - thousands of Poles have done this over the last century or so..

Fortunately, the number of courses offered by Polish universities in English, as well as the growing number of part-time jobs available to overseas students will hopefully attract more interest.

Poland is a great place to study, and also to settle down afterwards.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


I think there are a number of Ethiopian restaurants, and of course Arab food like Shwarma is popular in PL - the skills for making that aren't huge, and quite a few kebab shops and other takeaways employ students in PL, just as they do in the UK.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

So don't speak dumb. The thing you raised isn't an issue for highly specialised postgraduate courses.

Hopefully, quite a few of the current cohort will settle down in Warsaw and other Popliush cities, creating a much needed diaspora community.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Evidently you mean:


Someone tried that, and it didn't end well for him. He also


disabled people, didn't he Ironside.

Anyway, how do your fantasies about 'exterminating' your fellow humans relate to ingrained anti-semitism in Eastern and Central Europe?

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

That doesn't make much sense now, does it I-S.

Does the thought of 'exterminating' people turn you on?

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]

Not so far as I know, however one is the father of a celebrity, and there are some families who have opened businesses and brought relatives.

Of those who are studying in Warsaw, Krakow and Wroclaw now, I'd estimate that about half work, some in tutoring.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


They're all postgraduate.


Give them time to settle in and decide their future!

A small number of graduate students have been coming to PL from this country since the 60s. Most return or go elsewhere, some marry and settle down. A good thing either way.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


Plenty of students do that - they need the cash, and the chance to study in Europe is worth the privations for many (who don't usually live in luxury at home).

The students I send to Poland from Africa don't need to work - they get funding from their government and another source. Nevertheless many choose to work, to have a better life and to save a little money for if/when they want to stay in PL and settle down.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


It does exist in PL more than a lot of places (yes, Russia and other parts of the Slavic world too). Over the years I've heard some shocking and frankly nutty things, from throwaway comments that don't make much sense, to people feeling the need to give a full homily on the perceived evils of that group.

I'm talking of course about real life - and that is mirrored by some of the vile stuff that appears here.

And yes, of course not all Poles are anti-semitic fascists - some are liberally minded, outward looking decent people - most are not haters. And some Poles are of course Jewish themselves.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

No worries Kaprys.

It's a complicated issue that has become (deliberately) confused in this thread.For some reason (mostly crapmongers like Bieggyboy) it's become a bit of a Poland v. UK thing. It shouldn't, not least because the history, geography, econony and demogtraphics are so radically different. Both countries have a very rich, complicated and often tragic part of their histories that are inexorably linked witrh the Jewish experience, however we should be careful of comparing two situations that are so different.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


Many have to use that cash more wisely.


If someone's unfortunate enough to have to actually pay to study, the costs would be more than one person's wage could run to.

Nevertheless, there are opportunities for overseas students to work in Poland - many do.

Poland is a very attractive place to study, and an even more attractive place to settle down afterwards.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Tons - and you know it.

Life / Driving Offences in Poland - How Fast can you go without being arrested? ;) [56]


Damn right. When someone's propelling a ton of metal through public space, the rest of the public have a right to be absolutely sure they're doing it safely.


So there you go - there's a reason for road traffic laws and for enforcing them without exception.


A bit like saying that murder shouldn't be on the statute book because you yourself don't go around strangling people.


I only see one rant, and that's from you.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


As far as I know, everywhere in pre-partition Poland.


1655. It was actually a Dutch Jew who mooted the idea, and Cromwell agreed. The main influx came post-1688 under the Orange regime.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


No, Dominic, opportunities are increasing for studenty jobs.

Life / Costs of living in Bialystok [17]


Quite easily. half that amount is still four times the average salary for Bialystok.


No problem at all, in that case.

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


Until 1655 when the Jewish community started to return.


Poland certainly used to - in fact the only country in Europe that has never had them is Scotland, part of Britain.


If that made sense...

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


In what way? we still don't have anti-semitic laws on the statute book.

Interesting to see you quote from such a liberal publication, however have you considered that the rise may be in reporting a particular crime, not least because people believe that it will be taken seriously...

Life / Costs of living in Bialystok [17]

Half that would pay for the sort of lifestyle he talks about in his original post and many people would say they can do it for less. Very few jobs in Bialystok pay that.

Though some do...

History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]


It isn't unique to Poland, it's an issue across the whole Slavic world and not only. Nevertheless it certainly exists more in Poland than in most places I've lived - over the years I've heard people say some awful and bizarre things.


In fact, part of Britain (the northern part) is the only country in Europe never to have any anti-semitic laws on the statute book.

Work / Studies In Poland, is it easy to survive on part-time jobs? [259]


There are more and more opportunities for students, particularly in Warsaw - you'll do better to look at a forum for overseas students in Poland. Ignore some of the sillier comments in this thread - a quick look at the search function will show you that the usual suspects (who are Americans and don't live in Poland) just spam such threads to deter immigration.

studyportals.com/press-releases/poland-the-next-destination-for-international-students-to-study-abroad/

Life / English family in Wroclaw! [70]


Too bad you're not actually contributing to the thread, rather than just whinging about nothing as usual...

Life / Poland's Alior Bank reviews / ING / Millenium [26]

Alior is good. Millennium are popular with expats. I use Nordea, who have always been excellent.

Life / English family in Wroclaw! [70]

Always good to pay attention to the thread title, Wulky...


No evidence of so-called 'white flight' in Wroclaw.

Work / Loan / Credit in Poland (on 1600-2000 PLN income) [10]

Not huge - in fact lower than average for Warsaw, but possible to get a small loan if you have had your account for some time. Is it all provably regular and backed up with paperwork?

Classifieds / Quran translation - I am from UK and looking for a muslim Polish man in UK [75]


Really?

Life / English family in Wroclaw! [70]


As I thought. The number of Brits is growing quite healthily now - a lot of families, plus there are burgeoning communities of people from other places.


Have a look at the thread title. Always a good idea before feeling the need to post.

Life / English family in Wroclaw! [70]

So it's more than doubled - although your figure is high and probably includes Ukrainian citizens, Czechs etc...

It's an attractive place to settle, wherever you're from.


There's quite a thriving British community in Wroclaw.