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Paulina   
4 Oct 2010
History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]

This had been the real facts.... Contrary to polish propaganda Poles had been quite well off in the most modern and advanced country of Europe at that time!

There wasn't any "propaganda" about Poles having no money as a result of partitions lol Of course Poles could get rich, after all life didn't stop after the partitions. Poles could make business, own factories even (have you heard about the book "Ziemia obiecana" by Władysław Reymont? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Promised_Land_%28novel%29, make careers during partitions. Actually after the failure of the uprisings that was the new gole for Poles - get rich, get education, develope and wait for the right moment.

Life for Poles wasn't only about money, BB. There was Germanisation and Russification and Poles opposed it.

So, stop crying about mean, bad Prussia...

I won't because it took away my country's independence and tried to turn Poles into Germans.

I won't believe it anymore. hmpf

Believe what you want, if this is more convenient for you.

Yes.
Remember that at first opportunity Poland regained independence and, for some strange reason, Poles didn't want to be Germans :)))

BB, Poles are well aware of the fact that the Prussian partition was most developed. It's because Prussia was more developed than Russia, for example. Still, nobody wants to be occupied and turned into another nationality against their will.

I'm sure you wouldn't like it either.
Paulina   
4 Oct 2010
History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]

This is good. Hadn't spotted this, but crave more detail (like what things were like day to day). Ideally accounts of people's lives would be fantastic. Obviously I'm yearning after something pretty specific, but a man can only dream...

I guess finding something in English on the internet will be rather difficult. Maybe try some books, but I doubt many can be found in English either.

My ancestors were born in Russian partition, my aunt found some time ago their birth and marriage certificates - all written in Russian.

I don't know enough about it yet to form an opinion on whether the Prussians were overbearing or not in their attempts to assimilate large chunks of Poland and the Polish population. It sounds like a very difficult process to manage, with tensions on both sides.

Well, you're right this time.
Paulina   
4 Oct 2010
History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]

First teacher did beat children back then, it was their right to do it and boy they did it.

For several hours? As far as I can remember Polish children weren't allowed to speak Polish at school even among themselves.

Then it was to try to make german the main language in Prussia...

And change Poles into Germans. Russians tried to do that too - change Poles into Russians, but only after uprisings.
So it's OK according to you?

just look over at Ukraine and how Poland tried to make the Ukrainians speak polish...

When and how?

I don't remember during the polish republic that german was an acknowledged official language either even as millions of newly polish citizens spoke it as their main language!

What?
Paulina   
4 Oct 2010
History / Life in Partitioned Poland (Specifically in the Prussian Partition) [118]

Pursuing one official language is also fully legal and something every country does.

It's all wrong if occupants want to take away occupied nation's identity - and a part of nation's identity is it's language and history.

According to you it's OK to beat the crap out of school children becuase they preferred to pray in Polish, not in German at religion lessons?

Have you heard about Września?:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrze%C5%9Bnia#Wrze.C5.9Bnia_school_strike_of_1901
In Polish:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strajk_dzieci_wrzesi%C5%84skich
A poem by Maria Konopnicka:
pl.wikisource.org/wiki/O_Wrze%C5%9Bni

they even had their own papers to agitate and protest to their hearts contend

I'm noy saying Germans were Nazis at that time and sent Poles to concentration camps lol
But there was Germnisation, BB. And it wasn't nice. Russification wasn't nice either.

without fear to get jailed or anything else.

After the Września strike, not only parents were arrested but also a photorapher who took three pictures during those events.

Don't give me the sh*it fro the monstrous Prussia banging down on the poor Poles!

I'm not giving you "the sh*t about monstrous Prussia banging down on the poor Poles", I'm just giving you facts.
Paulina   
3 Oct 2010
Life / Bugs in Polish houses and apartments [78]

i saw one near the drain it was black and looked like a small black widow without and colorful dot on its ass so im not sure wtf that is ?

I think I know what you mean... I've seen such a spider - it looks black and sleek? (and creepy ;S)
Maybe it's Steatoda grossa, also known as the false black widow:

Does David Attenborough know about this flat...he could make a whole series about it...!

xD
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

So they were Germans, not Poles?

Second...no, there had been polish Waffen-SS unit!

Had been or hadn't been? ;)

Poland would had been fully incorporated into the Reich, so those Poles eligible got incorporated into the german forces!

But those were only Poles who were either ethnic Germans or Poles who had German ancestry.
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

But those were Polish citizens considered by the Nazis as "Germans", they didn't see them as "Poles", and they were quite often forced to sign the Volksliste. Others considered themselves Germans and signed it eagerly, others to save their lives, I suspect.

There was no such Polish unit like 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Italian) or 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS RONA (1st Russian), was it?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

So, there was no puppet Nazi regime in Poland and no puppet Nazi regime in The Soviet Union, but still there was this Russian SS RONA division, but no SS division consisting of Poles. Why is that?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

LOL

It reminds of Polish-Russian love for Ukraine ;D
"We like it more!"
"No, we like it more!!"
"We are brothers!"
"You enslaved them and killed them!"
"No, you enslaved them and killed them!!"
"You wanted to turn them into Poles!"
"No, you wanted to turn them into Russians!"
"Ukraine will be better off with Russia!"
"Ukraine will be better off with the EU!"
"Eastern Ukraine is better!"
"Western Ukraine is better!"
"Arrrghh!!"
"Rrrrrrrr!!"
"&#!!*%$!!!"
"#&!%!*!!!!"

Sometimes I have an impression that both like it so much that they will torn it in two ;P

And Ukrainians and Hungarians probably don't even know that we fight over them ;D

*you can have the Czechs though*

You can have the Czechs!!!!

Poor Czechs, nobody wants them :(
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

Hungarians had been part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for a long time, soaked in german culture...Brothers in arms in WWI, losers, terrible punished by the victors losing territory, towns, people, brothers in arms in WWII, again terrible punished by the victors...

So many similiarities and connections!

I don't know, BB, Hungarians are Finno-Ugric people, not Germanic... Somehow they don't strike me as similar to Germans...
But I don't know any Hungarians, so...

Do Germans have any sentiment for Hungarians? And vice versa?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

I don't think such a judgment is relevant. Hungary was a pawn in the battle of giants: no matter who they allied with as long as they could change nothing.

I'm not writing about this.
I'm writing about something else...
In 1939 Horthy refused to let the Nazi troops march through Hungarian territory to Poland and he ordered to put explosives in the railway tunels in case Germans tried to go through them by force, Hungarian soldiers helped Poles, a lot of people who were to be arrested by Gestapo were saved on the territories governed by Hungarians. You can read about stuff like this in here ("Stosunek do Polaków"), but it's in Polish:

Shortly before the attack in 1939 on the request of the German side of the opportunity to make the invasion of Poland from the territory of Hungary, Prime Minister Pál Teleki said: "On the part of Hungary is a matter of national honor not to participate in any military action against Poland." In a telegram sent to Adolf Hitler of July 24, 1939, the Teleki argued that Hungary "can not take any military action against Poland for moral reasons." The letter sparked fury of Chancellor of the Third Reich. Disclosed after the war, diplomatic correspondence fragments prove, however, that the Hungarians predicted such a development already in the beginning of 1939. in April 1939 the head of the Hungarian Istvan Csaky diplomacy in a letter to Mr Villaniego wrote: "we are not willing to participate in either indirectly or directly in military action against Poland.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_W%C4%99gier#Stosunek_do_Polak.C3.B3w

Stalin eagerly invaded Poland, ordered to kill Polish officers, the Red Army and NKVD was hunting down AK soldiers... The difference is visible, I think...

Hungarians are closet Germans, as are the Czechs...so!

;)

Sorry, BB, but we're nothing like Germans...
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

What is opposite about it?

You were writing that Hitler was making all these offers to Poland and that Slavs could join the ranks of the Nazis, even SS, and others weren't rebelling and you wrote that had Poles been more agreeable they would be better off, like those countries which allied with Hitler or which didn't fight.

Poland was courted by Hitler for years...they decided to be an obstacle for both juggernauts instead and they paid for that.

Poland too would had been allowed a puppet regime had they bowed down to german wishes

But they didn't bow down.

so no temptation for Poles at all.

So I guess there was temptation after all, just earlier?

Still, I don't understand why there were Russian SS troops and no Polish SS troops? Was there a puppet Nazi regime in the Soviet Union?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

Why what?

Why were you writing the opposite in a different thread to what you write now in this thread?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

Hitler hadn't any "after war"-plans with an existing Poland...bluntly spoken.

So why:

You were trying to convince me in some other thread that Poland would be better off if it would ally itself with the Third Reich or at least make no trouble and that Hitler would treat Poles better if they would be willing to cooperate or at least not resist and fight.

?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

a splash of Balkan thrown in there for good measure.

I agree with the first part, but I think the Hungarians are quite pragmatic as a people.

Well, I don't know any Hungarians, so I'm just guessing ;) It's just when I look at their history it seems they liked uprisings, as we did ;)))

So, maybe that "splash of Balkan" does the trick? ;)
Do you know any Hungarians?
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
History / No Nazi puppet regime in Poland? [45]

No offer of a puppet regime, no invitation into the Waffen-SS, nothing...

But why there was no offer, no invitation?
You were trying to convince me in some other thread that Poland would be better off if it would ally itself with the Third Reich or at least make no trouble and that Hitler would treat Poles better if they would be willing to cooperate or at least not resist and fight.

Why is Poland the Christ of Nations?

Torq, 21st century isn't for you... You should be born in the Romantic Period xD
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

I guess we just know we're different... It seems Czechs have different character and mentality... We like them, but... Poles drink vodka and Czechs drink beer, you know xD

Czechs are more pragmatic, I think, Poles are hot heads, probably like Hungarians ;)

Poles and Hungarians are very similar, if you compare things like: history, love of fatherland,
honour, honesty, bravery, decency, magnitude of spirit and the overall greatness (which can
clearly be seen when you look at the history of both nations.)

LOL

And modesty... ;D
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

Do you think the geography of Slovakia played a role in that? Kind an isolated people?

Ha... I've never thought of it... Mountains comprise more than half of the territory of Slovakia so I guess you're probably right...
pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plik:Slovakia_topo.jpg&filetimestamp=20051226180159

I've been there and those are beautiful sights :)

I would vote for Hungarians and Slovaks... Maybe Ukrainians too? I don't know...
Paulina   
1 Oct 2010
Life / Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like? [125]

Poles are unique ;D

We're a bit like every Slavic nation, I guess...

There's this traditional friendship between Poland and Hungary:
youtube.com/watch?v=_YJVO6jPaR0

So I guess we're a bit similar.
And the Slovaks, as convex wrote - Slavs, similar language, Catholics...
(but I'm just guessing - I don't know any Slovaks or Hungarians, strangely enough)

On the other hand, they were allied with the Nazis

Actually judging by what I've read Hungary was better for Poland as an enemy cooperating with the Nazis then the Soviet Union as an "ally" fighting the Nazis, ironically...

and took part in every partition of Poland...

I think some Poles helped Hungarians during the uprising of 1848.

Scandinavians, Finns (...) Dutch

lol
Paulina   
30 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / British men don't really like women [137]

Getting kind of bored now with the stereo-typing going on with this forum

:)

We are all different and that's good - because if we were all the same, life would be extremely boring, wouldn't it!

Indeed :)
Paulina   
30 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / British men don't really like women [137]

/Why-Brit ish-wo men-still-cant-get-their-man.html

Thanks for the link!

You know, you may laugh, but I noticed it almost right away when I started to read this forum:

d) they simply don't like women.
(...)
d: Canadian men do like women.
When I first arrived in London, I was astounded by the amount of bitter antipathy between the sexes

So I'm quite surprised that someone else actually noticed it too and... like... in a newspaper ;D
Judging by what I've read on this forum the difference between Polish and British men is that Polish men like women... Not only want them, but like them as an opposite sex... And they understand that women are a bit different then men.

And here men are so hostile, bitter, judgmental and many other things when they write about women... I'm not saying everyone here, but many...

It feels as if women are their despised enemies, some alien species.

This is why I love English men....

Really...? o_O
Paulina   
30 Sep 2010
UK, Ireland / British men don't really like women [137]

the thread title implies that British men are gay.... lol

xD

so based on that Paulina all British men are bad - nice one.

Eh...?