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Dougpol1   
22 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

over 1 million work permits issued id say Poland is helping out Ukrainians

Dirk, the government give work permits out, and employers like Biedronka, to take one, take on Ukrainians on short term contracts because migrants boost the economy. They are not issued work permits as a gift or some of humanitarian care. It's strictly business and works very well, but in this theread we are talking about the thousands who Gumishu and G say were migrants, but other countries beg to disagree, as those taken in were granted asylum as to the above article I linked to.

Of course some believe this government is right again and the rest of Europe is wrong. Maybe a certain percentage of the time, but not all of the time, methinks. If Polish politicians really were so clever and not so far up their own arses we would all be in clover.
Dougpol1   
22 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

whole 20 in Germany - that's a staggering number

It is...... when you consider that a great many of these people were morally deserving cases, and Poland has granted asylum to just 3 when I last checked, over the last 3 years....

These are Slavs, who lived in a neighbouring country for chrissakes.... not some "murzyny", and Poland won't even help them, but instead leave it to the Germans, Italians and the Czechs to step up to the plate, the last of whom granted asylum to over 300?

The term "Laughing stock" comes to mind here. And it's your government again.
As to the Ukrainian question, as another poster referred to, as in "they killed our nan" - under that premise the British would have had no truck with the Japanese or the Germans, and in fact the Scots wouldn't acknowledge the English, and so on down the line.

Better luck with the sarcasm next time!
Dougpol1   
22 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

Dougpol doesn't understand

So pray do explain why Ukrainians have been granted asylum in other countries? 20 in Germany, 40 in Italy, and so on. Ok, so Polish law doesn't allow for it - so change the law if you don't all want to be tarred with the same brush. A fair and sitting on the fence treatise, written by a Pole, about the case for refugees from the Polish establishment, can be found below. And it makes for pretty depressing reading.

Not if you give a flying **** of course...... and if the government hadn't categorically said "We are not going to take any refugees, because we have taken in 150 thousand Ukrainians", they wouldn't have looked so ridiculous.

The actual statements made by politicians to that end might have been lost in translation, but somehow with this lot it's a moot point.

fmreview.org/destination-europe/szczepanik-tylec.html
Dougpol1   
21 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

Apparently, it was set up to **** off dolno .

Absolutely not. What has it got to do with Dolno? What a silly remark. We are discussing refugees from a neighbouring country who need humanitarian help and have been incorrectly assessed by a non- caring system. Not everybody is fit to work. Did Poles in 1940 go off happily to work in Syria singing "Hi, ho...."?

The fact is that PIS have been banging on about there being no need to take the 7,000 quota of immigrants allocated to them by their peers/club members in the EU, because they have "taken in" tens of thousands of Ukrainian refugees." They have issued work permits to tens of thousands of Ukrainian migrants.

The governments' stance of helping Ukrainians is a fallacy, and is at worst blatant racism.
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The government refuses to recognise the difference between refugees and migrants. Poland needs migrants, but is sending back a Donbass family this week who witnessed their home being razed to the ground and whose children are clearly severely traumatised, ergo should not be forced to return under any circumstances. Read the case, it's out there.
Dougpol1   
21 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

Answers on a (very small) postcard

No, Dolno not retired. Brain still functioning. Still in downtown Port Ville. The above is idomatic, referring to the fact (in this case) that I am right:)) and any answers would by their nature only need to be succint:) And would easily fit on a postcard,as in, "Wish you were here."
Dougpol1   
21 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

so many other places for people to live if they don't like Poland

I was talking, obtusely I must admit, about Ukrainian refugees Dolno. There were 100 odd well deserved cases over the last 3 years, and Poland granted asylum to 3?

Pretty poor show, I would have said.

All the time successive governments state the lie that they "took Ukrainians in". They haven't. There is only one reason that Ukrainian workers are here. And it's not humanitarian.

Poland needs willing hands.
Dougpol1   
21 Aug 2017
News / 2.79% of Ukrainian asylum seekers granted asylum [46]

...over the last 3 years.

On another thread there is a discussion about racism. Case proved against the Polish establishment as to racist paranoia, or just the same old "I'm alright Jack"?

If the government can't even help fellow Slavs in their hour of need, who would they help? And does their rhetoric stand up when applied to Middle East refugees that "We have taken in tens of thousands of Ukrainians"...only to send them back, psychologically scared, to Donbass?

The Polish establishment stand accused of not giving a **** for their fellow man.
Answers to this accusation please, on a (very small) postcard.
Dougpol1   
30 Jul 2017
Love / Why can't a guy from a foreign country marry a girl from Poland ? [44]

You are clearly not invested in Poland. Not with the views you espouse which come at no cost to you

So what about the Poles who for 100 years have earned good money abroad through their hard graft and sacrifice, to build a better live for their families back in Poland? By the same token jon is free to move his capital where he pleases?
Dougpol1   
30 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

there is no way we little people know for sure economy will be wrecked.even experts dont know

So why has Britain's credit rating been downgraded then and a 1% minus growth forecast been made for 2017, putting Britain into recession, down from + 1.8%?
I am not particulary bright myself, but even I can grasp the fact that this is an economic crisis of the first magnitude.

But you are saying that the UK industry will magically click it's fingers, and that growth on a par with other competing states will recover short term (ie. the next six/seven years) ?

Doh!
Dougpol1   
29 Jun 2016
UK, Ireland / Dual nationality: British and Polish [68]

was born in London to a Polish mother)

Of course you have very right to a Polish passport. * I was addressing Brexitt and other "opportunists." I am British, and I don't see how this effects people's rights.

Especially as the new British PM will be forced to backtrack:))))
*PS. Not sure what the rules are though. If the situation were reversed, the father has to be British.
Dougpol1   
29 Jun 2016
UK, Ireland / Dual nationality: British and Polish [68]

I don't want what my government have done to other countries make me a victim when travelling abroad

Fair enough. I wouldn't risk it myself, as we know that Britain cares nothing for its' citizens abroad. You will only get a Polish citizenship if you have lived here a number of years and paid into the system. Even then, like in Britain, you have to undergo testing, and personally, I wouldn't lower myself.

I don't have a Polish driving licence, because I don't want to be associated with Polish drivers. And I don't want a Polish passport - because I am British and shall remain so, even if I am not proud to be British as of now. I accept that others may feel differently, but it's a mercenary thing from my viewpoint to grab another country's passport.
Dougpol1   
29 Jun 2016
UK, Ireland / Dual nationality: British and Polish [68]

When travelling in some countries, British passport holder is a dangerous target for kidnapping.

Yeah. Have you tried avoiding those countries? You are not British are you? (not that it matters) Ever tried reading the Gov.co.uk website?

If you are one of those delightful Brits that builds prisons in Iraq etc, then it is blood money, and you are leaving yourself open to attack.

Answer - don't go there.
As Dolno suggests, Poland doesn't hand out passports willy-nilly. Good luck with yours (still glad to be British - with a British passport) And I believe you don't have one. Care to prove us wrong?
Dougpol1   
29 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

going to force 8 countries who were supposed to be using the Euro but arent, to use it, by force !!.

Source?

Anyway , Slowakia has survived. And good riddance to the Polish currency dealers who make a living at, what for the rest of us, is uncertainty and a widely fluctuating zloty.
Dougpol1   
29 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

That is not what you said. You suggested that the EU could have "forced" the UK to take migrants. If you are talking about refugees, then no.

If you are talking about people from other EU countries - they are not "migrants" LOL. They are peoples who are allowed to travel and live where they want to under European Union rules.

And Brexit will not be able to stop that, if the UK wants access to the Single Market. It is clear that the EU holds all the cards and the new Prime Minister will have to grovel. She should be good at that, after apologising for her husband's misplaced business dealings.
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
UK, Ireland / Dual nationality: British and Polish [68]

What I ask is particularly about EU nationals who want to apply for Polish citizenship and I could not find accurate answers so far.

Delph could have helped you. Or you could always click on the right hand side of the main page. And why are you so "desperate" for Polish citizenship, if you are indeed British as you say? It doesn't make any sense, because there is little advantage in it, in fact, only downside as far as I can see.
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

Britain would have been forced to shoulder much of recession and migrant crisis loads anyway.

Rubbish. Britain is the second highest aid contributor worldwide, and was allowed by the EU to be treated as a special case as such. Poland on the other hand, has contributed to the square root of FootballAssociation. Also known as bugger all. Because they are racist and anti-humanitarian.

If you have to comment, at least read up on the facts.
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

If there were a revote, LEAVE would win by an even larger margin today after seeing the leaked "superstate" reports.

I doubt that very much. The UK was already outside Schengen, and was treated as a special case.

I am doings so as we speak.

A very good idea Dolno. I wasn't panicking up to now, but let's all remove our assets where we can, and screw the UK. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

This market bounce is temporary I fear. I can smell the bears' breath.
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
UK, Ireland / Dual nationality: British and Polish [68]

If you intend to live in Poland (for the rest of your life), have a job, pension etc - then it is worthwhile seeking Polish citizenship.

With due respect, you are not aware of the facts. The huge majority of Brits are here because they have married, or are partners. Of course the second is a problem in a catholic country, but that ain't a secret:( So, there is little advantage to be gained from Polish citizenship unless one wishes to keep their business affairs separate from their spouse, and in that case, why get spliced in the first place?:))

As to travelling with a passport, decent hotels do not ask for your documents, and anyway, on my refusal they take my credit card details quite happily:) Been refused once, and I understand it can happen, but haven't had a problem on the occasions when I wasn't carrying ID.

PS: As before, most Europeans who have been resident for a certain time can apply for Right of stay.

I don't want Polish ID - not Polish, never carried an ID card, matter of principle, and never will:)
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
News / How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland. [1114]

Would Scotland

You really don't get it, do you? 60 percent of the Scots, according to a poll this morning, are hopping mad, and threatening to impose a whisky and haggis export ban.

But seriously, this is a great threat to Union, and a poorer UK means a much poorer Poland, as you will know when you compare the relatively large amounts of income sent back to Poland with what Poles can earn at home for driving the number 601 bus.
Dougpol1   
28 Jun 2016
News / What does Poles think of European superstate? [48]

"EU" has become a tool to exploit peripheral member states and "further integration" will only bring more of that.

Those States were benificiaries of EU grants, and as to exploitation, yes, I agree, Polish businesses do that, because successive governments refuse to raise the tax threshold to sensible levels. Therefore what we have is, the hungry are forced work for ridiculously low wages.

The European Union is there to protect, where it can have an input.

Ever wondered why Gerries need more and more workers, while Spain has had millions jobless people since decades ?

Well, as to why Germany's GDP is growing, and Spain is in crisis, we all remember the infamous Jeremy Clarkson broadcast from outside the Madrid central bank at three in the afternoon. It was closed for siesta. I think that says it all really.