Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


I see, you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a premise that states no human inference into the forests is the only correct way of going about it. The right way.

I have been calling it a scientific theory that has no been proven empirically. I lost you there because for you it is a dogma that cannot be questioned.

The EU can take a jump it is not their concern.

Let see what the current gov is all about. You're too biased and involved to be trusted.


Funny, I knew you will say it.

News / Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing [436]


Oh shut up! Poland cannot endanger security of it citizens just to uphold some agreement. Also because no one can 100% distinguish between a Syrian refugee, an illegal economic migrant and a Muslim extremist - we can flash this agreement down the toiled. Poland agreed to take in Syrian refugees. Not anyone that floated into Europe.

The last point - those people don't want to come to Poland. They want Germany as Merkel invited them, so they should keep them . End off.

News / Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing [436]


The rules of the EU are conveniently abandon oft if it is in interest of Germany or France and then no one talk about it. It can be seen many times. So don't talk about rules - there are no rules.

By the way I don't want Poland in the EU - I said it very clear. THE EU right now means Germany rule.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]

1. Frist of all what you're talking about is not science - is a scientific theory that at the fringes turns into ideology. You can see a difference between theory and an applied science ()with your PhD) can't you?

2. There is no scientific issue here contrary to what you claim. there is an ideological political argument based on a theory. If it is was purely about science then you would present us with a proof not with the list of professors or institutions that you agree with.

3. If you don't know how UNESCO or institutional bodies are working - better remain silent - you sound like a naïve child.


You presenting here nothing else but a theory, and idea, there is no evidence that no human inference into forest is better than inference because for the last 70 years people have been interfering in the forests all the time. There is a very detailed evidence for it. Except for about 17% of the forested area, for the national park. There is logging in the national park.

Historically people have been interfering with the forests one way or the other for a very long time.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Are you kidding me? That is the most politically biased institution that supposed to be all about science there is.


They as I said base their action on legal issues and not out of their own accord. In short, they have been asked for their opinion which they base on legalities and politicks not on a merit of an argument.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


However all that scientific clap trap rest on theory that has not been empirically proven as the forest around the National park has been systematically maintained by people and from 1948 onwards there are detailed maps in existence of logging and planting.

Law / Schengen visa for a Moroccan guy married to a Polish girl [13]

Relatively. lately however Arabs and Muslim are not very high of the list guest that are welcome.

Law / Schengen visa for a Moroccan guy married to a Polish girl [13]


For your own safety.

News / Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing [436]


No that is the reason of a sate to exist in the first place - to protect its citizens. If that function cease to exist there is no need for a gov at all. Commie? Are you crazy?

There is no consent of Polish citizens to take in even a one of those rape...'refugees'. Forcing it on people against their will without their consensus is a sign of a totalitarian state or tyranny.


No they didn't - they are a cloud of clowns.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Check it again,


I know, I have said that in my opinion it should work this way.


BS, check in random thread I posted there about it.
Also you're all hypocrites, most western states have some sort of welfare in place, France, German being in the lead but even usa has more welfare programs in place than Poland even at the moment.

Check your facts or your head.

News / Berlin terrorist attack -- Poland's ethnic homogeneity a true blessing [436]


1. First of all PO gov a day before election had no right to make such a serious commitment.
2. That agreement can be and should be nullified if it put in jeopardy stability of the Polish state and safety of its denizens. Those considerations trump all others issues.

German or French elites can as well tell their people they don't care about them at all and they are only pawns for them. Hopefully that isn't a case in Poland.

EU can jump a lake.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]

1. I think that EU should keep their dirty hands out of the Polish affairs and that Polish law should be always superior to EU law.

2. Polish gov suspended logging until the EU c..t ruling on the issue.

@CasualObserver
There is sense to continue our exchange lets agree to disagree.

Law / Schengen visa for a Moroccan guy married to a Polish girl [13]


Are you kidding of course that your visa application should and most likely will be rejected.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


In such a case it would be literally the reverse.

You didn't get it. The point I made is that experts provide their expertise but untimely it is a political decision. Unless you can prove that gov has not right to do what it does all that are just political musings nought else.

Also you keep reposting list of some bodies/ organization with political bias and agendas/. Some of them are kind of club for people with academic titles, those are not experts those are politicized pen pushers.

If you don't see the difference between them I can't help you.


There is no crime. The point is they are not breaking any laws.


The problems is you need to take HIS WORD on it face value. How much trust would you like to put into some anonymous person on the forum - who cannot even bother to register?

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Don't get hot under your collar. It was kind of a rhetorical question. Like we are talking about stuff and exchanging opinions and that is all that can be done here.

I have also said - its likely you are telling it as it is. Have you seen it? If not read it again. if you did see it there is not need for you to turn rabid and go personal with me. I have been nothing but courteous towards you and I expect the same in return. If you want to do it the hard way you will regret it as I will tear you to shreds on this forum. Ask anyone if you don't believe me.

I'm not the one to fall to my knees just because bombastic bureaucrats with academic titles and want me to.
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Said a manipulative commie that many times on this forums claimed that backs is white and white is black and those who disagree are fascist, racist and bigots. lol

The only thing you have against regime is that is not your regime.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Indeed and there they won't/are not cut/ing down the trees.


Well, I can see it happening and most likely you're right and describe the situation correctly. However who is to say they are not right? I mean if not for a beetle that would be questionable but with this threat looming that might be a good solution to the problem.

After all it is not that trees are growing and there is no human interference at all. Maintaining such an enclave of forest cost a lot of money.

So basically is not about the National Park but about extension of the Park? Hmm ...

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Dude, Polonius is POL-AM over 70' years old. Chillax. Some people have a different point of view and quite a lot of them voted PiS. If you don't like it more to Russia, North Korea or SA.


Credible - what credible, bodies- more oft or not have some political agenda.
I thought we are talking scientist not some institutions that you would have to certify as credible. Let me hazard a guess - credible would be those that support your point of view?

I don't know, I wasn't looking, as I said do it yourself. Do you even know what to look for?


Casting aspersion? Do you have anything that would support your ...claim?

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


As soon as the Polish gov. will make me an offer that would make worthwhile for me to spend my time defending their polices on line. Until this time came, you do it yourself, let me give you a tip- one of those S-entist is the minister in question himself.


So does gov.


Maybe but the system of gov in Poland is such that they have the right to cut down trees in the BF and that is the bottom line.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]


But ..but it is not what you have said. I presume that English is your first language and you're a person with some education at the least. You SHOULD have phrase it better.

By the way I hope for your sake you're not an ardent supporter of the left and all their contemporary musings.


As I wrote on tis forum years ago, instead of listening to a governmental/politician BS you should check it yourself at the source. EU citizen can be deported if he/she commits a crime and/or is not working for at least six months.

I don't remember how they phrased it exactly in the EU law but if you cut to the chase - there is a black on white it can be done legally.

All your gov needed to do was to apply this law, not need for Brexit over it. Anyway Brexit is a good thing for Britain.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]


So you are telling me that jeans and T-short are some kind of EE outfit? lol
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Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


They are not doing that and don't plan to do it.


Scientist's views are divided on this. There is no consensus - so ..., UNESCO is about some legal issues not about rights and wrongs of logging.

The bottom line s that if they really are just logging for money and Bialowieza Forest become a meadow(which doesn't make sense they could find the same trees in other parts of the state forest)they'll never win another election.


No your opinion is just your opinion.
You don't make any argument or charm us with a logical chain of reasoning to swoop us into your way of thinking. You repeat what you heard from others and you say that you believe them - fair enough. You do - other don't. No a big deal so stop crying.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]


Pardon moi, what? Will you be so kind and describe to me a typical EE outfit?


There is no need to wait for Brexit, they can be deported right away. Unless they have British passport.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]


Maybe maybe not. Is that matters?


They could be or they could be not. Nowadays with PC and this leftie bias floating about you can never be sure. Although woman could be anything as they say partner but the name is the same, unless they are related it could his wife so she could be anything.

Saying all that I cannot imagine any Poles nowadays attacking Jewish wedding party out of the blue. From Anti-Semitism as they say. Hence I'm asking if there has been some kind of interaction between them and the wedding party prior to the events described on the news. We don't know that.

We know they don't have a criminal record.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


You saying that without any evidence and without having any clue about foresting.

I checked up few facts and I can dispel few myths here. First it is not a primeval forest in the sense that people were not interfering there at all.

In fact the Belowieza FOREST has been used by people quite extensively in the 16th century.
During the WWI Germans almost destroyed it (cut down a large area of the today forest) had been saved due to effort and activity of Poles.

Also from 1948 to 2011 trees has been cut down there all the time. Not on industrial scale true but it wasn't as some claim untouched by a human hand.

That some info as opposite to opinions. I still don't know what to think about it.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]


Only those facts you have posted here plus logical reasoning - after all we're not talking some slurs or insults but on a physical assault. That is serious and punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Unless you're suggesting that British courts are secretly anti-Semitic and racist themselves.


The only winging whiner here is you!


Possible they have been born there. We don't know. Harry doesn't know, he only knows they are racists and scumbags and can read their minds from the distance. Maybe he should read their minds some more and tell us more.

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]

40$ each? Walked free? Means that the court must has had recognize some mitigating circumstances like someone from the wedding party provoked those two. Possible, even likely if you consider that a physical assault took place.

Even so - so what?
I mean so what Harry?

UK, Ireland / British court lets violent Polish racists walk free [61]

Are you sure that has really happened? Some Jewish press relate a shallow hole freshly dig in some bushes as anti-Semitic attack on same Jewish grave, with no more evidence that some Facebooks selfie of some obscure dude.

So I would be very careful with some type of Jewish press that whips up hysterical reaction based on some rumors/gossip.


A very good question.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


That is a vey nasty thing to say and untrue. PiS won long before 500 plus had been introduced. In fact there is no evidence that this plays a significant role in the support PiS enjoy. Apart of course for snarky remarks of the total opposition (traitors) and same snobby knobs. U shouldn't listen to them.

Stick to the topic please

UK, Ireland / Polish man jailed for using dog to attack Muslims leaving mosque [45]

Sure, next to your neighborhood. Such a dude with a grudge against Brits next to you.lol

UK, Ireland / Polish man jailed for using dog to attack Muslims leaving mosque [45]


Well if more than ten people would ready to leave this forum I would most likely join them.


What cause he is a jerk that enjoys stirring the pot. If he annoys someone he loves it. Also it is much easer to be a center of attention if you sling **** and he is an attention seeking *****.