1jola
20 Jan 2010
Food / Butternut Squash in Poland [13]
Possibly at Hala Mirowska.
Jonni, have you seen Bok Choy anywhere?
Possibly at Hala Mirowska.
Jonni, have you seen Bok Choy anywhere?
1jola
20 Jan 2010
Life / A FILM ABOUT POLISH LIFE...with me as a star in it... [60]
There is nothing wrong with your hair:
Is that you in the car? (Your hair is nicer than mine)
There is nothing wrong with your hair:
1jola
20 Jan 2010
Life / Do Polish People steal a lot? [330]
That is the point. While it would be ridiculous to say all Poles are honest, polite, and smell like lavender, it is just as stupid to say all Poles are dishonest, rude, and smell foul. I'm done with talking about this and it is for mods to see that threads at least make some sense to start with.
I do agree with that polish people are very dishonest .
That is the point. While it would be ridiculous to say all Poles are honest, polite, and smell like lavender, it is just as stupid to say all Poles are dishonest, rude, and smell foul. I'm done with talking about this and it is for mods to see that threads at least make some sense to start with.
1jola
20 Jan 2010
Life / A FILM ABOUT POLISH LIFE...with me as a star in it... [60]
Man, you sure get around :)
You went for the screening?
Man, you sure get around :)
You went for the screening?
1jola
20 Jan 2010
Real Estate / Poland land ownership documents - what do they look like / where to obtain [15]
Liz, Look for words like:
KSIĘGA WIECZYSTA
AKT W£ASNOŚCI
AKT NOTARIALNY
Liz, Look for words like:
KSIĘGA WIECZYSTA
AKT W£ASNOŚCI
AKT NOTARIALNY
1jola
18 Jan 2010
Love / What exactly is Wieczór panieński - Bridal Shower? [8]
I hope not with twins.
Magda, he thinks we're going where?
I hope not with twins.
Magda, he thinks we're going where?
1jola
18 Jan 2010
Love / What exactly is Wieczór panieński - Bridal Shower? [8]
No, it is more like a tupperware party. We are very modest people and such behavior is unacceptable. Do not worry, your future wife will be home in bed by 10 pm, sober like sailor.
McCoy, I am disappointed in you, knowing how proper and serious you are.
No, it is more like a tupperware party. We are very modest people and such behavior is unacceptable. Do not worry, your future wife will be home in bed by 10 pm, sober like sailor.
McCoy, I am disappointed in you, knowing how proper and serious you are.
1jola
18 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
You didn't get the irony in his post, G. Relax.
Ynet often has articles like that. The Dutch are not spared either depending which Jews are speaking:
jcpa.org
Anyway, Ynet takes turns, today Poland, tomorrow some other country, everyone gets a black eye, even Jews.
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
You didn't get the irony in his post, G. Relax.
Ynet often has articles like that. The Dutch are not spared either depending which Jews are speaking:
A New Museum of Dutch War Failures?
The time has come to provide a more balanced view of Dutch behavior during World War II. One could imagine the construction of a "Museum of Dutch War Failures" next to the Anne Frank house, to be visited with the same ticket. [...]
The time has come to provide a more balanced view of Dutch behavior during World War II. One could imagine the construction of a "Museum of Dutch War Failures" next to the Anne Frank house, to be visited with the same ticket. [...]
jcpa.org
Anyway, Ynet takes turns, today Poland, tomorrow some other country, everyone gets a black eye, even Jews.
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
1jola
17 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
Not necessarily, Torq. I'll leave szmalcowników alone for a moment since I asked Świtek to explain a little about them, but I can give you a number of examples of people who openly held views we would consider antisemiric before the war, yet when the Germans rolled in and locked up the Jews in ghettos, turned out to be their rescuers and supporters. Antisemitism in pre-war Poland had much to do with economics and competition and not with hatred. Reading Calek Perechodnik's(a Jewish ghetto policeman in Otwock) journal one is surprised, as he was, that the known antisemites he knew of, two brothers, helped him without reward over and over. A very hard read, where Jews and Poles would have to fight it out who was worse. This book is in Polish only so far, since the previous edition has been nulled. Bizarre situation, since both editions were released by the same publisher from the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw.
Zofia Kossak of Żegota was an antisemite, yet was instrumental in saving many Jewish kids along with Jews and Poles when they faced death. Many others called for aiding their fellow men, as at that point there was no reason to compete.
Anti-semites in Poland were always a sad, small minority of sickf***s despised
by the rest of Polish society (vide szmalcownicy).
by the rest of Polish society (vide szmalcownicy).
Not necessarily, Torq. I'll leave szmalcowników alone for a moment since I asked Świtek to explain a little about them, but I can give you a number of examples of people who openly held views we would consider antisemiric before the war, yet when the Germans rolled in and locked up the Jews in ghettos, turned out to be their rescuers and supporters. Antisemitism in pre-war Poland had much to do with economics and competition and not with hatred. Reading Calek Perechodnik's(a Jewish ghetto policeman in Otwock) journal one is surprised, as he was, that the known antisemites he knew of, two brothers, helped him without reward over and over. A very hard read, where Jews and Poles would have to fight it out who was worse. This book is in Polish only so far, since the previous edition has been nulled. Bizarre situation, since both editions were released by the same publisher from the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw.
Zofia Kossak of Żegota was an antisemite, yet was instrumental in saving many Jewish kids along with Jews and Poles when they faced death. Many others called for aiding their fellow men, as at that point there was no reason to compete.
1jola
17 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
I wonder if you have any idea who szmalcownicy were? Can you explain who was this person? What did he gain? What did he risk? Was he Polish or Jewish? His possible place in society?
Also, try to describe a "successive generation" member of such a family. We would get a better understanding into this mysterious szmalcownik.
This a kind of negative stereotype about Jews which is inherited by successive generations in home education process esp in those families whose members were somehow involved in crimes against Jews (mainly by szmalcownictwo).
I wonder if you have any idea who szmalcownicy were? Can you explain who was this person? What did he gain? What did he risk? Was he Polish or Jewish? His possible place in society?
Also, try to describe a "successive generation" member of such a family. We would get a better understanding into this mysterious szmalcownik.
1jola
17 Jan 2010
History / Have Poles blood on their hands? :) [496]
Oh yes, there are whole red dynasties doing extremely well and the key resorts are dominated by those who would be "uncomfortable" to show the past as it really was. The common misconception is the communists went away, and let's put a thick line under that period, so any talk about it is just a witch hunt. It is all interesting and I can give my take on it but I was not only talking about Poland. The subject of education, and in this case murder of huge proportions, is not treated in a balanced way anywhere. Holocaust education is taught in schools in Europe, North America, and certainly in Israel. I understand the focus on this particular genocide, but why exclude the much larger genocide that communists, and in particular Stalinists, unleashed in just as recent times. This knowledge is essential for understanding the nature of hatred, prejudice, and tolerance, which is what I presume holocaust education aimes to achieve. While in Europe and Israel the Holocaust is a grim reminder of what had happened, in US, where many descendants of negro slaves live, some education as part of a curiculum of genocide studies could focus on the Belgian Congo, and the 10 million victims of King Leopold II's genocidal policies. You don't have to be a psychologist to question the usefulness of Holocaust curriculum for Kindergarden age kids in the US either.
Just to return to this. People calling for full disclosure of the communist period are called witch hunters, ultranationalists, fascists, etc. Full disclosure would also follow the trail of money and who ended up with the nation's wealth. The Left is very much against all this, but we understand this. It is a constant battle which, I'm affraid is being lost in the Left dominated Europe and Poland in this case. Holocaust education helps us understand that the return to anything called the Right would be the return to...Nazism, and we know how that ended.(sarcasm).
but could that be because there were many Poles in the Polish communist party and they still have influence on how history is taught?
Oh yes, there are whole red dynasties doing extremely well and the key resorts are dominated by those who would be "uncomfortable" to show the past as it really was. The common misconception is the communists went away, and let's put a thick line under that period, so any talk about it is just a witch hunt. It is all interesting and I can give my take on it but I was not only talking about Poland. The subject of education, and in this case murder of huge proportions, is not treated in a balanced way anywhere. Holocaust education is taught in schools in Europe, North America, and certainly in Israel. I understand the focus on this particular genocide, but why exclude the much larger genocide that communists, and in particular Stalinists, unleashed in just as recent times. This knowledge is essential for understanding the nature of hatred, prejudice, and tolerance, which is what I presume holocaust education aimes to achieve. While in Europe and Israel the Holocaust is a grim reminder of what had happened, in US, where many descendants of negro slaves live, some education as part of a curiculum of genocide studies could focus on the Belgian Congo, and the 10 million victims of King Leopold II's genocidal policies. You don't have to be a psychologist to question the usefulness of Holocaust curriculum for Kindergarden age kids in the US either.
Won't a public airing of that period make a lot of people in Poland uncomfortable?
Just to return to this. People calling for full disclosure of the communist period are called witch hunters, ultranationalists, fascists, etc. Full disclosure would also follow the trail of money and who ended up with the nation's wealth. The Left is very much against all this, but we understand this. It is a constant battle which, I'm affraid is being lost in the Left dominated Europe and Poland in this case. Holocaust education helps us understand that the return to anything called the Right would be the return to...Nazism, and we know how that ended.(sarcasm).
1jola
16 Jan 2010
Food / WHAT DID YOU EAT FOR POLISH EASTER TODAY? [45]
It is symbolic, a little of each. Just like the drops of Holy water don't have to exactly hit your basket. Of course, I also see people with 30 pounds of food in their supersize basket. Ask yourself why are you doing this? If you are doing it so everyone sees you, and then will attest that you are pious, then get a huge basket, pray loudly, and buy the clothes you can't afford.
I have a basket like the one at the top of the thread. It is simple with a white cloth so I can cover the food because I walk to church and there are cars, buses, and dust.
It is symbolic, a little of each. Just like the drops of Holy water don't have to exactly hit your basket. Of course, I also see people with 30 pounds of food in their supersize basket. Ask yourself why are you doing this? If you are doing it so everyone sees you, and then will attest that you are pious, then get a huge basket, pray loudly, and buy the clothes you can't afford.
I have a basket like the one at the top of the thread. It is simple with a white cloth so I can cover the food because I walk to church and there are cars, buses, and dust.
1jola
16 Jan 2010
Food / Polish Bread: Boulka (Bułka) [8]
Gary,
I thought I lost you there for a minute. If you want to make this at home, post for a recipe translation and someone will help, maybe even me.
We are like cultural attaches without the perks. :)
Gary,
I thought I lost you there for a minute. If you want to make this at home, post for a recipe translation and someone will help, maybe even me.
We are like cultural attaches without the perks. :)
1jola
16 Jan 2010
Food / WHAT DID YOU EAT FOR POLISH EASTER TODAY? [45]
There are regional variations of this soup. Żurek, barszcz biały are similar and are traditional Easter dishes.
BTW, eggs are a sybmol of life and rebirth in Christian culture, so it was in the cultures predating Chistianity. The popular tradition to paint them at Easter is still popular.
Pisanki(below Ukrainian ones) like
is still a practiced tradition.
There are regional variations of this soup. Żurek, barszcz biały are similar and are traditional Easter dishes.
BTW, eggs are a sybmol of life and rebirth in Christian culture, so it was in the cultures predating Chistianity. The popular tradition to paint them at Easter is still popular.
Pisanki(below Ukrainian ones) like
Sunday morning, the beautifully laid table is covered with colored eggs
is still a practiced tradition.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
Love / Is she genuine? - I would like some advice please re a Polish girl. [130]
The only girls nicknamed KRECHA in Poland are serious dresiary and blachary. In other words trash, but sleezy girls need loving too.
The only girls nicknamed KRECHA in Poland are serious dresiary and blachary. In other words trash, but sleezy girls need loving too.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
Food / WHAT DID YOU EAT FOR POLISH EASTER TODAY? [45]
For me this hasn't changed since childhood.
Since it is the end of fasting, we can eat well on Easter Sunday. In the morning, off to church with a basket nicely prepared with eggs, bread, salt and sausages to get it blessed. We share the eggs with whoever is present at breakfast and share wishes in a similar way as at Christmas with opłatek( blessed waver). At breakfast there are mainly eggs, various sausages and cold meats with lots of chrzan and ćwikła( horseradish and beetroot/horseradish).
For dinner we have roasted duck or turkey and żurek(white sour soup). There are baked cakes for sweats.
People in large families probably have more things, but I think the above is typical.
The only must are eggs.
But it's January and -10 C. Shouldn't we be making bigos now?
For me this hasn't changed since childhood.
Since it is the end of fasting, we can eat well on Easter Sunday. In the morning, off to church with a basket nicely prepared with eggs, bread, salt and sausages to get it blessed. We share the eggs with whoever is present at breakfast and share wishes in a similar way as at Christmas with opłatek( blessed waver). At breakfast there are mainly eggs, various sausages and cold meats with lots of chrzan and ćwikła( horseradish and beetroot/horseradish).
For dinner we have roasted duck or turkey and żurek(white sour soup). There are baked cakes for sweats.
People in large families probably have more things, but I think the above is typical.
The only must are eggs.
But it's January and -10 C. Shouldn't we be making bigos now?
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / Prawo i Sprawiedliwość / Law and Order party new super-president project. [10]
Tusk is proposing changes in the constitution too. Catch this: the president will be without veto power and will not be elected by popular vote but by the National Assembly, Seym and Senat. And PO dominantes in the polls for presidency. Listen, the first idiot here doesn't have a chance. New democracy; old comedy.
The article is at your link.
Why would they give such power to the president if they are not counting on re-election? It'd be a suecide for them.
Tusk is proposing changes in the constitution too. Catch this: the president will be without veto power and will not be elected by popular vote but by the National Assembly, Seym and Senat. And PO dominantes in the polls for presidency. Listen, the first idiot here doesn't have a chance. New democracy; old comedy.
The article is at your link.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / Prawo i Sprawiedliwość / Law and Order party new super-president project. [10]
I don't take articles from TVN24 seriously. They are poorly written, biased toward the left, clearly following the idea that PiS is bad by definition, but you took the liberty to twist the content anyway.
It is unlikely judging by the polls, which would make your paranoia unfounded about the looming dictatorship. Both parties are proposing changes and I haven't, nor you, had the chance to really see what they are proposing.
I am not blindly saying one proposal is better than the other; I objected to your blank dismisal of everything. One particular point would make a discussion more managable, many people in PiS and PO are not keen to be directed from Brussels by a guy we don't know, can't pronounce the name of, so we have an interest in remaining Poland and not the Polish region, Ostland or whatever they will come up with without our consent.
I don't take articles from TVN24 seriously. They are poorly written, biased toward the left, clearly following the idea that PiS is bad by definition, but you took the liberty to twist the content anyway.
it seems PiS is still counting on that dwarf becoming a president
It is unlikely judging by the polls, which would make your paranoia unfounded about the looming dictatorship. Both parties are proposing changes and I haven't, nor you, had the chance to really see what they are proposing.
I am not blindly saying one proposal is better than the other; I objected to your blank dismisal of everything. One particular point would make a discussion more managable, many people in PiS and PO are not keen to be directed from Brussels by a guy we don't know, can't pronounce the name of, so we have an interest in remaining Poland and not the Polish region, Ostland or whatever they will come up with without our consent.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions? [285]
What is that? Some kind of a generic citizen of Greater Europe? Socialist EUnuchs.
i'm a real European
What is that? Some kind of a generic citizen of Greater Europe? Socialist EUnuchs.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / Prawo i Sprawiedliwość / Law and Order party new super-president project. [10]
There is much wrong with your selective translation that it isn't worth talking about it yet.
You are objective, I see.
This part:
Your third grade summary:
Scary dictatorship? Your translation is scaring foreigners here who can't check the crap you wrote.
See, he blindly believes you.
There is much wrong with your selective translation that it isn't worth talking about it yet.
I don't think this stuff gonna actually get through but it seems PiS is still counting on that dwarf becoming a president. Scary, dictatorship, medieval thinking.
You are objective, I see.
This part:
Poważne zmiany dotknąć mają także Trybunał Konstytucyjny. W IV RP TK ma być najwyższym organem sądowniczym, przed którym będą rozpatrywane także skargi konstytucyjne zgłaszane przez obywateli, nawet na decyzje sądów niższej instancji.
W skład TK wchodzić będzie 18 sędziów. Znacznie trudniej będzie im podważać ustawy parlamentu. Potrzeba do tego będzie większości 12 głosów przy obecności wszystkich członków gremium.
W skład TK wchodzić będzie 18 sędziów. Znacznie trudniej będzie im podważać ustawy parlamentu. Potrzeba do tego będzie większości 12 głosów przy obecności wszystkich członków gremium.
Your third grade summary:
The Constitutional Tribunal will be weakend and it'll be harder for it to block bills and corporations will also get weakened.
Scary dictatorship? Your translation is scaring foreigners here who can't check the crap you wrote.
Hope it is not a prophecy.
See, he blindly believes you.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / IPN apologises to Adam Michnik [15]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wis%C5%82awa_Szymborska
Like Czesław Miłosz, Szymborska produced ridiculous works for the Stalinist regime that one writer termed Unreal World of Real-Socialism. This was not the highlight of their careers as writers. Miłosz explains this in The Captive Mind. I don't know of English translations of these but I'll try to find some beauties just for laughs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wis%C5%82awa_Szymborska
Like Czesław Miłosz, Szymborska produced ridiculous works for the Stalinist regime that one writer termed Unreal World of Real-Socialism. This was not the highlight of their careers as writers. Miłosz explains this in The Captive Mind. I don't know of English translations of these but I'll try to find some beauties just for laughs.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
Let me explain. When I lived in France and I stood in line, say at a bakery, I was annoyed when a person chated with the seller while making a purchase. The French weren't; they stood patiently and waited their turn. I got used to it after a while and did the same. In Poland, one will get comments right away. Now, I got used to that too, and I "help out" to speed things up. I am using a mild example of butting in.
Other people's business? What 's that? Everything is everyone's business.
Let me explain. When I lived in France and I stood in line, say at a bakery, I was annoyed when a person chated with the seller while making a purchase. The French weren't; they stood patiently and waited their turn. I got used to it after a while and did the same. In Poland, one will get comments right away. Now, I got used to that too, and I "help out" to speed things up. I am using a mild example of butting in.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
I've been twice and was treated well. Saying that I'm Polish was met with about as much emotion as if I said I came from around the corner. Not being familiar with Warsaw's Jewish community, I couldn't answer questions about it outside of the renewed interest in cultural things which are going on and the large Jewish History museum being built. I don't think anyone cared if I came from the moon as far as nationality. There was something strangely familiar how people butt into others' business in public. Reminded me of here.
That wasn't the case. They saw me as a Polish tourist.
If any of you on this forum were ever in Israel as tourists or on business, I'd like to know how people treated you. My guess is that they'd be friendly to Polish tourists because they would assume anyone visiting Israel is a friend.
I've been twice and was treated well. Saying that I'm Polish was met with about as much emotion as if I said I came from around the corner. Not being familiar with Warsaw's Jewish community, I couldn't answer questions about it outside of the renewed interest in cultural things which are going on and the large Jewish History museum being built. I don't think anyone cared if I came from the moon as far as nationality. There was something strangely familiar how people butt into others' business in public. Reminded me of here.
They'd be friendly to Polish tourists because they would assume anyone visiting Israel is a friend and a Jew?
That wasn't the case. They saw me as a Polish tourist.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]
That appears to be true, but I'm on to him for excessive offensiveness and unfamiliarity with who is who to whom. He could have come out of his Turkish bath and corrected me himself.
You cut off his post and completely missed his meaning :)
That appears to be true, but I'm on to him for excessive offensiveness and unfamiliarity with who is who to whom. He could have come out of his Turkish bath and corrected me himself.
1jola
15 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]
There is a decent PBS documentary for any flu freaks.
video.pbs.org/video/1240086878/
Personally, I am an Ebola man, and I recommend this book:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone
Very interesting reading. Vivid.
Apropos the book The Hot Zone:
There is a decent PBS documentary for any flu freaks.
video.pbs.org/video/1240086878/
Personally, I am an Ebola man, and I recommend this book:
The Hot Zone is a best-selling[1] 1994 non-fiction bio-thriller by Richard Preston about the origins of incidents involving hemorrhagic fevers and both the Ebola and Marburg viruses.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone
Very interesting reading. Vivid.
Apropos the book The Hot Zone:
In his blurb, Stephen King called the book, "one of the most horrifying things I've ever read."
1jola
14 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]
Everybody is into me. That natural charm, you know. But I gotta go because my computer is acting up.
Everybody is into me. That natural charm, you know. But I gotta go because my computer is acting up.
1jola
14 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]
He's a minimalist and doesn't invest in a lot of equipment.
But for the serious readers, that was a real H1N1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
He's a minimalist and doesn't invest in a lot of equipment.
But for the serious readers, that was a real H1N1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
1jola
14 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]
Oh yeah? So, why does my doctor have me come in weekly for prostate exams?
Oh yeah? So, why does my doctor have me come in weekly for prostate exams?
1jola
14 Jan 2010
1jola
14 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]
Have you been vaccinated?
Do they deliver news to you by raft and then by mule?
Apparently, Poland is the first and only country to reject it.
Have you been vaccinated?
I just heard it on the news.
Do they deliver news to you by raft and then by mule?