Life / What would YOU do to make life in poland better?? [72]


Well, the world doesn't always have to behave according to Alvin Toffler. He's just one man, just like I am.

''Society needs people who take care of the elderly and who know how to be compassionate and honest. Society needs people who work in hospitals. Society needs all kinds of skills that are not just cognitive; They're emotional, they're affectional. You can't run the society on data and computers alone.''

It's what Alvin Toffler said.

;)


So Lech Wałęsa never existed? Solidarność never existed? I think some Polish people are perfectly capable of standing together if they wanted to, regardless of where they're standing in the political spectrum.


We're not exactly a traditionally Protestant country either. You think it's any different here? Well, it really isn't. But have fun with your money I suppose, and I sure do hope that it keeps you warm at night and that it whispers all kinds of nice things in your ears.


It is, and it hurts to be in the middle of all that. This is no way to treat young people, and nothing good will come of it.

:S

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment, and think a lot of guys need to get over their own ego, and basically just grow up. She's not your possession. But if girls would change their attitudes just a little, I suspect guys wouldn't have to be so jealous, aggressive and possessive anymore, because I think we all know there's a reason for such behaviour; They're afraid to end up alone for the rest of their lives when they lose their girlfriend to someone else. (Am I wrong, guys?) I usually treat women with respect, but I still think guys are allowed to disagree with girls about a variety of matters though!

I however, don't blame women for being loose. I do think they have too many images in their mind about their perfect partner though, and because of this they've been rejecting some really nice guys, simply because they have these unrealistic demands. (I get the feeling they would rather drop dead than to admit anything though, but you're definitely welcome to tell me if I'm totally wrong about that!) Of course I'm talking about my own country here, and from my own experiences, because I don't know what it's like in Poland. There are more girls than guys out there, but still there are more single guys than single girls out there. Could someone explain that one to me? I'm afraid I really don't get it! I mean, you can count, can't you?

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Life / What would YOU do to make life in poland better?? [72]

How to wreck a society, written by Ariën.

In Holland, in 2009, we've had 4.608.112 singles. I took these figures from the CBS, and these figures resemble both men and women from the age group 20-65. So there were actually more singles in 2009 if you count all the people who were 18-20. We have 16,5 million people in total. 4,6 million people are single. I think I can safely state that's 25% of our total population, and if you look at the age groups I think 89% of all the young people here are single. Let's say 20-35. Actually, I have another figure. From the age group of 25 to 35, of which only 5% all the guys here are actually married. For girls this percentage is higher, but I'm not going to tell you why because I've already told you that a hundred times.

Anyway, goodluck with materialism and intellectual progress. Just pretend like you didn't hear me, or tell me that I'm whining, as usual. How to avoid this doomscenario in Poland? Well, I suggest you read my previous post, and find a young, healthy and above all, nice Polish guy who really cares about you, or keep treating money as your God. Just remember what I've posted, because Poland will look like this within fifteen years if girls are going to listen to all this marketing crap.

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Life / What would YOU do to make life in poland better?? [72]

Appreciate eachother for what you can do for eachother, and don't ever follow that social-segregation fairytale that certain elements in the media are trying to present to the younger generation world-wide. Not everyone can be a bankmanager or a professor, and not everyone wants to become one either.

If you follow materialism like people have been following over here, then you'll see how your society will wreck itself eventually, trust me. A leisure economy won't function for too long either, because there will always be people who simply can't live up to the ever-increasing demands. Money is important, but it shouldn't define your whole life or who you are as a person. A bunch of lonely career women and single guys who supposedly aren't good enough anymore are not going to be the happiest people ever, because it's not in our nature to spend half, or even our entire lives alone. It's not healthy. So don't sacrifice everything for success.

So too much focus on success, career and knowledge may sound progressive, but this philosophy has the potential to segregate and wreck complete societies. (As proven in Western Europe.) A healthy and productive society is a society in which people stand together and value, and sometimes even depend on another, and if there's a good atmosphere then things will get nice and comfy eventually. Money isn't everything you know. People who make themselves useful should be recoqnized and respected for it, no matter what they do, no matter how small their jobs may seem to you. People who feel appreciated and valued for what they contribute are productive people. Neglected, unemployed and socially stigmatized people aren't productive at all. They actually cost money.

This may sound idealistic and hippy to you, but maybe you'll understand it when you've seen it happen all around you. I can assure you there's practical and financial thinking behind every word in this post, if you care to think it through.

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Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


''I, ... , take thee, ... , to my wedded Husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, to love, cherish, and to obey, till death us do part, according to God's holy ordinance; and thereto I give thee my troth.''

;P

I didn't say anything!

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


Hey, why don't you tell us something we don't know?

;)

Love / Why do Polish women prefer foreigners for boyfriends and husbands? [418]


Don't they feel sorry for all those Jarnowa's out there?

xD

Love / All the good Polish men for dating are taken? [111]


Because I like being lame sometimes! (Jeez, are you always like this?)

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UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]


I'm afraid they are, more or less.


I don't know about Turkey, but I've already seen Romanians, Ukranians and Bulgarians here. Rumour has it they're actually offering cheaper labour than the Polish. I haven't seen too many of them yet, but something tells me that I will in the not-so-distant future.


I feel the same way, although I do think that it should worry atleast someone out there. Or does nobody care about the fact that we have a few hundred thousand young people in each of our countries who are jobless more often than not?

They can make more of such videos about a few children who are obviously too spoiled to be true, but it won't change the fact that most of the people who have to claim benefits actually do so out of necessity. I mean, they've been good enough before the temporary foreign workers came, haven't they? Did anyone complain about their work-ethics about fifteen years ago? Oh, and something else; If someone has to work for less money than someone who claims benefits actually recieves, then why should he or she be happy with his or her work at all? (Zero-hour contracts for example.) Maybe it's time we talked about demotivation aswell.

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Food / Do Polish beers contain adjuncts? [34]


Strongest Beer In The World!

This is beer which contains 45% alcohol, the brew is called Obilix, and it was brewed in Almere, Holland.

;P

Beat that, Belgians!

UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]


It's more or less the same there as it is over here, which is why I'm speaking up for people who don't fit the description of a wealthy benefit claimer. (Regardless of where they're coming from.)

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Love / Please Stop insult for polish girls [17]


Maybe the term butterface originated from America, but I can tell you that ''she's butters'' is a very British expression. I've heard it millions of times already. (Especially in and around London!) It was a real trendy word about seven years ago.

:)


In Holland we say have a phrase for that; You should put a bag over her head if you're planning to do her for your queen and your country.

xD

UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]


Because that's what the media wants everyone to think over here, so they can justify their slave labour. If you honestly think every young and unemployed Brit wears designer's clothes then you couldn't be more wrong. If you honestly think they enjoy claiming benefits you need to get your head examined. You're right when you say that some people might not care about that much, but you should know that most guys and girls who are healthy actually do want to work.

I haven't been to a bar for ages, Zetigrek. (Just check the figures, and you'll see that most bar owners have seen their incomes drop by 45%) Because you can also see *that* on television, if you care to pay attention to all those little details which just don't add up if you put them in the bigger picture. I'm not mad at you, nor do I blame you for anything, but just don't make it sound like we're all spoiled brats who have done it to themselves completely. This might be true in some cases, but in most cases we simply lose our jobs due to undercutting and unfair policies. You should also keep in mind that with the zero-hour contracts that Amathyst was talking about earlier, you might earn *less* than someone who's claiming benefits. In other words, for some people it's not longer doable to work. So don't shoot the messenger and all that.

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Love / Please Stop insult for polish girls [17]

I'm actually surprised you guys have never heard of that term before? I mean, some of you coming from the UK and all! I think ''butters'' would be a more recent update though. (Does she teach Chavish children?)

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UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]


If you're ''lucky'' enough to actually get 80 hours a week that is.

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UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/cijfers/default.htm - Unemployment Rate Holland.

Okay, maybe you can't understand Dutch, but here are the official figures, and I've translated the first three for you.

Number of citizens: 16592206 March 2010.
Economical growth: 0,6% 1st quarter of 2010.
Unemployed people: 5,5% May 2010.

Which means we have about 912571 unemployed people. (Mostly young people.)


Which will actually cost them money in the long run.

;)


No, indeed we can't, and nobody can tell us that this is our own fault either, or even that we're supposedly too lazy to work. The fact that a lot of young people are lacking qualifications and in some cases can't afford an education can also be explained if you take a good look at the lack of investment and interest.


It's even worse, they're officially eating themselves! They just don't know it yet, but it's pretty obvious what will come of this if you look at the global trends. I'm willing to predict a loss of jobs in the upper echelons aswell, but ofcourse I can't give you the exact dates or anything. It's a ticking timebomb really.


Yes I am. I've done all types of construction work though, and I've also spent a few years and a few months in agriculture in total. (Inbetween jobs.)


I've been thinking about that, but I'm obviously not the only one who's been thinking about that. I will need extra qualifications aswell, aswell as extra safety licenses and I will need a degree in accountancy aswell, otherwise I'll have to let an accountant run my business, which isn't exactly a great idea. It's pretty unfair when you see foreign electricians who don't have to meet all of the aforementioned requirements though!


It's a small country here, so we don't have too much opportunities, especially not when you keep in mind that electricians from abroad manage to be two times cheaper than us because they don't live here. (They don't have to pay these ridiculous rents!) If I would live in America right now, I'm sure I would've done the same. I think it would've been slightly easier for me aswell, since living in America is actually much cheaper than it is in Holland.

I'm studying and obtaining certificates gradually, which I can trade for a degree when I'm done, because I can't afford the whole study at once. So it's going to take me a little longer than someone who can afford it, but I'm getting there. Once I have that degree, it will open many doors for me, which only makes me more determined. (So I guess I'm off to the next temporary rinky-dinky job!)

:)

UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]

They can make four times as much in Holland aswell, but we obviously can't. We can make four times as less in other countries. (And that's why we don't.) The result? A lot of jobless and single guys. Not having any families. Not working. Not earning. Not spending. Not participating. Not contributing. I don't think I have to tell anyone what will become of these guys, and nobody can honestly tell me that it's all their own fault.

Most of the Polish people who come here for work, aren't planning to settle down here. They're just here to make more money than they could back home, and once they have it, they'll return to their homes and families, which basically means they're not spending, participating or contributing anything here either. It might be cheaper for employers, but it actually costs our society in the long run, including these employers. I guess that's what happens when you have this every man for himself attitude?

Just look at Ireland, they were in the same kind of situation about 15 years ago, and I remember working with Irish workers everywhere, which have been replaced by the Polish in the last few years. (I think the same will happen to Poland once the Czechs, Slovaks, Bulgarians and Romanians take their place as a workforce abroad.) Infact, I think this will happen to most European countries, and even to all of the countries which obviously still seem to think they will actually benefit from cheap and temporary labour.

indexmundi.com/ireland/unemployment_rate.html

I guess that's what happens when the work abroad stops. I don't think countries should stimulate their people to work abroad in such huge numbers. They should invest in their younger generations, instead of tearing down their own societies. (But I guess that's the plan?)

I'm not a nationalist, I'm not using foreign workers as a scapegoat for all my problems and I'm not a xenophobe either. Just making a few observations, and trying to make some sense out of this. So thank you for reading. (You don't have to agree.)

:)

UK, Ireland / Are the working class in the UK now shunned in the 'new' Poland? [53]


I'm sure they'll realize that they need a qualified working class to get things done. (We can't all be lawyers and doctors, sorry!)

:)

Love / Please Stop insult for polish girls [17]

No, you're definitely not.

:)

Life / Car Crime in Poland [28]


You Sir, have got it all twisted! Feeling the vibe is enjoying the atmosphere of a party, appreciating something, where chilling is not doing much. (Pay attention Seanus, it might save your life one day!)


I bet you'll be proper Ghetto by the end of next week then. But you'll have to take a tattoo if you want to impress the Ghetto princess! (I'm afraid you'll have to endure some suffering before you can make it to the top!)


It's probably what my granny used to say when she went to the Disco.

;)

Life / Car Crime in Poland [28]

I think you meant to say you're feeling the vibe. (Don't worry Seanus, I'll teach you how to survive these blocks!)

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Life / POLISH YOUTH compared to the youth in other Western countries? [57]

I don't think anyone could make a statement like that based on just a few experiences. (I don't think there's much of a difference between European teens either, regardless of which country they live in!)

You've probably experienced a few nasty buggers though. (I'm pretty sure I could've been one of them aswell!)

;)

Life / Car Crime in Poland [28]


I'm properly impressed. (That guy is like Robin Hood!)

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Life / POLISH YOUTH compared to the youth in other Western countries? [57]

Please tell me we're not going to talk about religion again? *sigh* If being a human could be a religion, then I guess we could all be natural and pure. What's pure anyway? (Pure chocolate?)

;)

Life / Car Crime in Poland [28]

The Best Car Crime Ever!
xD

Love / All the good Polish men for dating are taken? [111]


Yes, you should date a Turk, and move to the Sahara. (Believe it or not, but you can have a tent with a bathroom!)

xD

Love / Please Stop insult for polish girls [17]


Congratulations.


Ofcourse, that's why it's so important to have a religion. (I keep forgetting that!)


Sure.


My opinion is that you're a slut.

xD

Life / POLISH YOUTH compared to the youth in other Western countries? [57]


Of course you've been teaching in every single classroom in the UK, and you've talked to every teacher in Poland aswell.

;)

Polonia / What similarities would you say there are between Poles and Mexicans? [132]

No, but they do look Mexican.

;P

Polonia / What similarities would you say there are between Poles and Mexicans? [132]


Mara Salvatrucha?

:S