USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Ironside wrote:


oh I love that comeback. "It's OK to eat kielbasa every day because it's natural." Tell you what, that stuff will naturally kill you.


I would never defend McD's and say it's somehow healthy but for the sake of argument, I can personally guarantee you that a hearty meal of kielbasa, bread and butter, cheese, kabanos, etc. has as much or even more fat (and calories) than a fast food burger and french fries. Polish food is very very hearty and heavy for the most part and the calories rack up.

Ironside wrote:


?

ironside wrote:


oh I surely have. i honestly don't know how you can call most polish salads actual salads. a blob of mayo, cream, hard boiled eggs, smietana, or whatever else you put in it does not become a salad just because you threw some corn and onion and shredded cabbage or beets into it. it's still a bowl of lard with random pieces of veggies.

honestly, why does every comment about how Polish food is anything less than healthy always have to turn into "Well, you americans eat fast food all the time so there!"

stay on topic. Poles eat fatty, bland food. Nothin' wrong with it. I like to eat it. Just admit to what it is.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

joepilsudski wrote:


honestly, it is.

The only spice Poles understand is salt, some black pepper if you're lucky. OH, and that useless papryka stuff that randomly appears on meals.

Other than that, Polish food is basically starch and fatty meat. The flavor in Polish food comes from the high fat and salt content, not from some complex design.

I like Polish food, I most certainly have an appreciation for the fatty mcFatty aspect of it, I love fatty salty food, but let's keep it real here....the stuff is pretty bland and boring, especially when compared to Korean/Thai/Japanese/Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Italian, French, etc.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

pip wrote:


uhmm....i think just about anywhere is a good place to live if you're ultra rich, excluding maybe 3rd world countries.

vato loco wrote:


I couldn't disagree more. If you've got a great job and are educated, the USA is about as good as it gets.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

peterweg wrote:


because of a mismanagement of funds. the money's there, it's just going to the wrong pockets and has been for quite some time, especially when GWB took the helm.

Piast Poland wrote:



it's amazing how you can categorize 300+ million people like that so easily.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

Piast Poland wrote:


i don't know which is worse....a country having economic woes due to mismanagement of funds.....or being completely dependent on other countries' money to keep you afloat. when your country achieves even half of what the USA has achieved in technology, innovation, manufacturing, medicine, sports, entertainment.....then we'll talk about who is "pathetic".

i dig poland, I really do, but if people are gonna spout trash like this, amma keep it real, son.

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

Meehaugh wrote:


I can't argue this because I've never seen facts to dispute it, which leads me to my question: How do you know this?

Let's say this were true. If it were in fact true that statistically, Polish illegal immigrant numbers were "average", not high or very high, could we then consider the possibility that the current screening systems used by the embassy is working? If it were a broken, poorly done screening system, we'd have more Poles overstaying, would we not?

But again, I'd like to see where you get your facts about how many Poles overstay their visas.

bummer.....i was kinda hoping to get a link or two on those stats.....

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

legend wrote:


i think the same could be said about every country.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

legend wrote:


it would be a worse place.

Piass Poland seems to think the USA is some vile disease that needs to be exterminated. have you read his posts?

USA, Canada / Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays [339]

Meehaugh wrote:


no.

Your "1" is a useless thing to even mention. Anyone is welcome to apply, they aren't going to throw your paperwork back in your face based on.....on I have no idea. Hence, like you said, "there was no single case of refusal at this stage mentioned in this thread."

Now, regarding your above statement, chances are they already know after reviewing your case and going through your paperwork, whether or not you're getting one or not before you even show up. It takes months after the application is originally submitted before you get an interview, they have plenty of time to check you out.

Meehaugh wrote:


well yes. I'd say that's a safe deduction. kinda like everything I just typed back to you just now was "on purpose".

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

Piast Poland wrote:


If that happens, I hope your country gets invaded the very next day. Maybe try giving China a call, they'll come help out.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

peterweg wrote:


yes....yes of course. hence, why more people immigrate to the USA than any other country.

isthatu2 wrote:


more importantly, why do Americans live in tornado alley.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

isthatu wrote:


so funny when i hear this. poles talk about houses as if another war is coming.

wooden houses get built, they stand for years, and then you die. how long does a house need to last? btw, who the heck wants to live in a 100 year old house anyway? have you ever seen a 100 year old house in Poland? I have....and it needed a bulldozer.

al111 wrote:


agreed.

peter olsztyn wrote:


you can't possibly be saying that with a straight face.

what was i thinking, anyway. of course this is going to turn into a "America sucks" thread. that's half of PF anyhow.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

piast poland wrote:


you do NOT want to live in a world with a weak USA. trust me.

Life / Is it me or do people "seem" to live longer in Poland? Life expectancy among Poles. [52]

Life expectancy of EU countries:

eu-oplysningen.dk/euo_en/spsv/all/101

Poland ranks 15th out of 27.

sorry, i miscounted. Poland ranks 19th from what I can see.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

Kumbins wrote:


jobs come and go, man. they come and go. here today, gone tomorrow. i wouldn't base my life decisions on how "nice" my current employer is.

USA, Canada / Moving from United Kingdom to USA. Is it worth it? [136]

pip wrote:


why?

the guy's a professional, has a good job and if he lands a good job in the USA, he will pay next to nothing for medical insurance, the corporation pays for nearly all of it. my first job out of college, i paid $25/month for full coverage.

don't buy into the myth that americans all go broke because of health insurance costs. it's a broken system, sure, but most americans are quite happy with their health insurance and most pay very little for it. corporations pay nearly all of the tab and if you have a govt. job, even better.

also, let's look at the OP. his main concern is property cost and in the USA, real estate is considerably cheaper, especially if you stay out of California or the NY area. in the southeast, you can buy a house less than 10 years old, 150-220 sq. meters, 1/3 acre of land, for under $100,000, or about 61,000 pounds.

USA, Canada / Polish-American mutilation of the Polish language [75]

in response to the OP, why single out Polish-Americans? Polish people living in Poland mutilate the language plenty, in their own country. I'm not talking about bad grammar either, I'm talking about words that are so silly it makes your cheeks rosey with embarrassment.

oh, i almost forgot....delph has a never ending vendetta with Pol-Ams.

ok, as you were. but honestly man, for what it's worth, Poles in Poland are pretty damn bad as well and the fact that it is happening IN poland might make it even worse.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Marynka:

how many kids do you see running through sushi bars.....yet they seem to be doing alright.

polish food is boring, americans don't run to it mainly because it just looks like what mom used to cook them when they were little. meat, potatoes, random salads pretending to be healthy, sausages, starchy fatty meals made with cheap ingredients.....it doesn't excite the tastebuds like MEXICAN! or PIZZA! or something like that. also, americans know next to nothing about poland so when they see a polish restaurant, they have no idea what to expect so they just pass it on by. mexican food, italian food, indian food, chinese food, japanese food.....they know exactly what they're going to have on the menu.

every cuisine needs to have some sort of gimmick, some way of being fun to eat. polish food looks like you just cooked it yourself at home.....which is boring.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Harry wrote:


I keep hearing that but I still find it hard to believe that everywhere in Poland I've been to gets it wrong but Warsaw somehow manages to get it right. I've been to Warsaw but never tested the ethnic restaurants....I'll have to put it to the test one of these days.

There is an Italian restaurant in Wroclaw, run by Italians (it always used to make me laugh when i went in there because the daytime waitstaff only spoke Italian and really bad English....I guess that's why everything on the menu was numbered....) and the food was simply not Italian. Maybe Italians were cooking the food but the ingredients were still Polish, making it Polish food.

To be honest, the best ethnic food I ever had in Poland was sushi and I'll tell you why.....because you can't replace any of the ingredients in sushi with polish ingredients. they can't really screw it up unless the food isn't fresh. the seaweed wrap, the sticky sushi rice, the fish, the avocado, soy sauce....none of it is Polish food so all of it needs to be imported giving you a meal without any Polish ingredients at all.

USA, Canada / Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA? [698]

Pennboy wrote:


hence, why i never went to ethnic restaurants in Wroclaw, or Poland for that matter.

News / Sex is patriotic: Poland's birth rate rises [34]

for the most part, EU countries with low birth rates are going to find themselves completely dependent on EU cash in order to keep their fluffy social programs going and to have anything to offer retired citizens. the population will continue to fall with today's birthrates and they will simply go bankrupt.

the Greece bailout is just the beginning.

Poland could benefit from some quality immigration but let's face it, the line is really short on the Polish border and they have enough gypsies.

News / Sex is patriotic: Poland's birth rate rises [34]

George8600 wrote:


but it's not neutral, that's the point.

1.4 children being born for every 2 parents = a declining population. those parents then retire and each year, less and less people are around to support your retiring population.

nytimes.com/2006/09/04/world/europe/04prague.html

"After a long decline, birthrates in European countries have reached a historic low, as potential parents increasingly opt for few or no children. European women, better educated and integrated into the labor market than ever before, say there is no time for motherhood and that children are too expensive anyway. The result is a continent of lopsided societies where the number of elderly increasingly exceeds the number of young - a demographic pattern that is straining pension plans and depleting the work force in many countries. The European Union's executive arm, alarmed by the trend, estimates that, if birthrates remain this low, the bloc will have a shortfall of 20 million workers by 2030."

News / Sex is patriotic: Poland's birth rate rises [34]

birth rate will always be a huge issue in socialized countries.

even with a birthrate of 1.4, the actual number of Poles being born and going on to enter the work force and working for a lifetime in Poland, therefore paying into the socialized system.....is far less. there's emmigration, death, disabilities that prevent someone from working, people simply NOT working.....

gotta keep popping out kids and a country's citizens have to stay there and work their whole lives to keep social programs moving.

Food / Is Polish food still more natural than in the West? [142]

regarding the OP, it still comes down to choice.

you can't say "American food is less healthy" or "Polish food is better" because it's an entire country you're talking about. you walk into a supermarket and you can buy whatever you like. you can skip the veggie stand or buy a bunch of healthy food there. you can eat tofu and salads and skinless baked chicken....or pick up 3 kilos of kielbasa every weekend.

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

ItsAllAboutMe wrote:...
right on.

ItsAllAboutMe wrote:


do you mean to say that moving slowly.....everywhere you go.....and reading the same book over and over is unproductive? ;) well, at least nobody's paying them for it......wait.......NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!!!!!!!

News / Citizen-led Initiative on Abortion Law in Poland [50]

urszula wrote:


there are public responsibilities with this though.

statistically, "unwanted pregnancies" occur most often among lower class citizens, often times outright poor citizens. this immediately puts a large burden on the tax payer because unwanted children growing up in a low income family = criminals. whether the women deserve some sort of "punishment" for being irresponsible, well, that's another discussion, but in the interest of the entire country, and you're wallet, when a poor 16 year old girl from Rinky Dink Zdroj gets pregnant and wants an abortion because she knows that she doesn't have the means to raise the child, on paper, an abortion would be in the best interest of the state.

now, i'm not going to argue with someone about how it's so immoral to think of a child only from a financial perspective....but if a 16 year old girl raises some kid in squallor and he ends up stealing and cheating because of his circumstances growing up....the only thing you, as a citizen of this country, are concerned about is your personal safety and how much it's going to cost you because he's a criminal.

Work / The Goal: 3000pln a month, Lets make it happen! [13]

so basically, he wants to find the easiest way to make money, party and get high as much as possible and screw lots of women out of his league before he gets too old and fat.

i mean.....it's basically a great plan.

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

delphiandomine wrote:


so what you're saying is that Poland's existence as a country is completely dependent on EU funds? without their "allowance" they'd be.....well.....

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

i guess it "pays" to have a big brother sometimes.

one has to wonder......why does Poland need all that money? What if they didn't receive it....what would happen? Where are the most funds required? Pensions? Infrastructure? Education? Where is the shortage in Poland that necessitates 80 billion?

Life / Homosexuality in Polish Culture [231]

P3 wrote:


let's face it, anyone with half a brain could come up with a better, more appropriate list of 10 commandments that actually apply to the 21st century. hell, the first 3 commandments say nothing other than, "worship me or else!". Surely, when you only got 10, that seems like a bad way to spend 3 of them.

Commandment 4.....even YOU don't follow that one and you'd be crazy to tell a family struggling to make ends meet, "don't you dare take an extra shift on Sundays....that's against the 4th commandment!"

Commandment 7 is essentially repeated in commandment 10. Oh, and let me ask you P3, should we always keep #10 in mind so that we can't EVER DREAM of coveting our neighbor's servants (slaves) or his ox or donkey? How many of those do you have? As is written, God's cool with slavery, just as long as you don't desire somebody's other than your own.

I can only hope that for someone looking to raise a moral, mature and well rounded child, you'd have a hell of a lot more to offer....provide just a weeee bit more insight into how to lead a good life.....than a completely outdated list of nonsense like the 10 commandments.