PolishForums LIVE  /  Archives [3]    
   
Posts by 1jola  

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 / Male ♂ 		Last Post: 24 Aug 2013
Threads: Total: 14 / In This Archive: 7
Posts: Total: 1875 / In This Archive: 984 		From: Warsaw
Speaks Polish?: yes

Displayed posts: 991 / page 23 of 34
sort: Latest first   Oldest first   |
1jola   
18 Mar 2010
Travel / Poland from a Persian Tourist's Perspective [269]

I think he made an unsucessful attempt at studying at Warsaw University, and now he declares it is not Harvard and the profs are not to his standards, and he requires world class ones. His second-hand dentist stories are even worse.

Another accute observer passing through after his two-week stint in Poland. He did enjoy many buckets of KFC here, so at least he liked our cuisine.
1jola   
11 Mar 2010
News / Polish minorities in Bielarus, what's going on? [7]

So you start a discussion on a topic you are not willing to even read a few articles on? Read the article and form a statement or a question then, if you're interested.
1jola   
11 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

.I had the "honour" to feel a bit of it when polish authorities passed me for an Ukrainian in the train from Lvov and after this special treatment I know exactly how Ukrainians have felt.

Did this "special treatment" make you want to murder Polish civilians?
1jola   
8 Mar 2010
USA, Canada / Dual citizenship - US doesn't care if you don't give up Polish passport [103]

Nor is it usually granted to naturalized citizens who still hold citizenship of a foreign country.

They complain enough about US citizens having lived in foreign countries, good luck on trying to get it as a naturalized citizen. You might want to have a back up job, because you'll be waiting a long ass time to get it.

As a Polish and a naturalized American citizen I had no problems getting clearances. Several of them. They do check your background and your parents' also in the case of communist blok emigrants. There were benefits for not joining the communist filth after all.
1jola   
8 Mar 2010
USA, Canada / Dual citizenship - US doesn't care if you don't give up Polish passport [103]

She is playing by the rules. She is in the US legaly, works, and pays taxes.

Should she have children, they will then have a choice to study in the US or Europe as citizens. Just thinking ahead.

Also, as she lives on the Space Coast and is an engineer, she might have an opportunity for a better job requiring US citizenship and a security clearance. Secret clearance is not granted to resident aliens.
1jola   
8 Mar 2010
USA, Canada / Dual citizenship - US doesn't care if you don't give up Polish passport [103]

Welcome back PLK123!

fstop,

You should get your citizenship, period. It will not conflict with your Polish citizenship, as we are both friendly nations. I have both, but my mother had only residency in the US and after retirement she received SS even when she had returned to Poland, so it isn't critical for that purpose. It is always good to be a citizen of the country you choose to live in. Do it.

Here is the info where the State Department finds conflict; you will see you have none:

richw.org/dualcit/policies.html

I swear the whiniest people on this forum are Polish expats.

There aren't many posts of yours where you are not whining about something Polish, sunshine. Is the wound that deep, our expert on everything bad in Poland?
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Law / Over stay in Poland (Canadian citizen) [10]

You had a tourist visa to Poland when you are a Polish citizen? Are you OK?

Anyway, you leave Canada on a Canadian passport and enter Poland on a Polish one. Didn't anyone tell you that?
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

Great, white, non-Poles voicing opinions on Polish racism. Some with an obvious grudge, dished out daily, towards anything Polish.
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

Yes, neither any of you nor I are racist, but we are not looking in black or arab neighbourhoods to buy houses in. Wonder why?
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

Often, these thread about the stereopytical Polish traits are like discussions of some alien species. Amuse yourselves without me.
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

He did say "...like everywhere."

...but spoke about Poles and I wonder who these Poles want make a good impression on? The very people they don't like?
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

There is some racism, like everywhere, but it tends to lie latent unless you get close to Poles. Many want to create a good impression and thus don't openly voice it. They tend to say it more amongst themselves but only a select few are hostile with it.

You could write that about any country where one race is a majority, but thanks for your insight into us Poles, and now I know why I don't spit out racial slurs. :)
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

Beelzebub,

OK, fine, but the OP is in England and has contact with Polish people. Her own statement, which I quoted, sums it up about right.

She needs to take the same precautions you or I would take and she will be fine. Nothing really exotic in Warsaw to be dark-skinned.
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
Life / Mixed race girl in Poland, good idea? [149]

Another, seems like a monthly, thread where we have to assure the poster from some distant and foreign land like England that

Most of them are very friendly and help me learn Polish and hang around with me, but there are a few who can be racist towards those of a different skin colour

Strangely, I have been to over 40 countries and have never thought me having blond hair and blue eyes would be an issue, never mind concern or fear.
1jola   
7 Mar 2010
History / How was Poland compensated after World War 2 [47]

Well ... what kind of compensation are you expecting for a country like Polnad that has lost the war ?

The Axis powers lost the war. Last time anyone checked, Poland was not in the axis and had the fourth largest Allied army. Strangely, the Soviet Union's role as an early axis power is rarely mentioned nowadays.

who do you feel was responsible for this "compensation" you speak of?

The OP must have meant war reparations. At the Potsdam Conference it was agreed by everyone but Poland, since she seized to exist as an idependent state and decisions for Poland were made in Moscow, that People's Poland is to receive 15% of reparations paid to the Soviet Union.
1jola   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

and how the conflict will be resolved is up the to the present generation.

Truly, it is not a conflict. We have good and friendly relations with Ukraine and the hatchet has been buried.

He said he was going to do this before the election, and he did get elected, so in Ukraine, UPA is only heroic to the minority. I hope they don't try to use UPA methods to get their point across, as they clearly will be angered.
1jola   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

and all their crimes are excused.

What we are talking about is excusing mass-murder on genocide scale. That is what the Ukrainian nationalists comitted. No condemnation of this by non-Polish posters here. Interesting.

In a statement that will be welcomed in Poland, Ukraine's new president Viktor Yanukovich has said that he may strip war-time Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera (right) of the title "Hero of Ukraine".

thenews.pl/international/artykul126920_yanukovich-to-strip-hero-status-from-ukraine-nationalist-leader.html

I take it, Nathan, you did not vote for this president.

The European Parliament also protested Yushchenko's decree in February, calling on the new president to reverse it.

1jola   
6 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Take anyone on this forum that is impartial to either side, let him/her read my post and say whether I interpret it freely.

Fine. Let's see what an impartial reader thinks of Poles supressing Ukrainian culture in...Poland, because when we speek of Ukraine as a country, that would be after 1992. Then, after reading Nathan's post above, and then reading the "revenge" dealt to civilian Poles by the Ukrainians here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia

...what is the reaction of an impartial reader?

Now, I'll take Seanus as an impartial reader, who witholds judgement, to ponder the issue. Nathan's stance is that mass-murder is a justifiable answer to supression of culture. Shall we say that today would be a good day to murder all English persons in Scotland and then go to bed with a clear conscience and use Nathan's argument that they got what they deserved?

BTW, was Bandera not a Polish citizen at the time he had led the slaughter of Polish civilians? What citizenship did all the UPA butchers hold in Volhynia? Were they not all Ukranians with a Polish citizenship?

You behaved like BARBARIANS in Ukraine, WILD, INHUMANE BARBARIANS.

This is like a murderer complaining that the child's skull broke his knife.
1jola   
4 Mar 2010
Law / I need information on Gold Certificates company that operates in Poland [5]

They go under the name GC (Gold Certificates) Inc.

I'm willing to do the same. Please send me your gold coins, bars, and jewelry, and I will certify the gold purity and mail you a certificate. I am safe as Fort Knox or a Swiss vault. Hurry, because my offer is limited.

Is their offer similar?
1jola   
4 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Wouldn't it be interesting for a Polish poster to say, just once, that Nathan has a point and may be right?!

What point does he have in which he may be right? You said too little or too much, so explain yourself.

I hope you don't mean that genocide of Polish civilians was a good thing.
1jola   
4 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

The tied kids photo is a distraction that you would like to use to turn the attention away from the genocide of Polish civilians by Ukrainian nationalists. Let's put that one to bed. The photo is mislabeled often and you are right, it was a mentally ill Gypsy mother who killed her own children. You can answer Porzeczka's questions now.

As to our "pathetic case," and your fascist heros. OUN/UPA organized and carried out the systematic brutal murder of 50,000+ Polish civilians in Volhynia. You are not arguing that that is not true but, that it was justified. Had they driven them out west, without harming them, we would be having a different discussion now, but they didn't. They hacked them to pieces. I understand your dilema; your heros wanted an independent state. They fought the Germans, Soviets, and even AK. That was war, but murdering civilians on that scale is genocide. If you were decent enough, you would admitt this, but then it would be indecent to put up monuments and name streets after mass-murderers. Poland has agreed to preserve the graves of your fallen soldiers, but when we see you basking in the glory of butchers, we look at you as the blood-lusting, wild-horde of the east not ready to join the western world.

The "one source" you would like us to believe is nonsense. There are lots of sources, but professor Władysław Filar is a very good source. A military historian with hundreds of scientific publications, and access to Ukrainian archives, he has detailed the slaughter perpetrated by UPA.

"On September 29, 1943, I carried out the action in the villages of Wola Ostrowiecka (see Massacre of Wola Ostrowiecka), and Ostrówki (see Massacre of Ostrowki). I have liquidated all Poles, starting from the youngest ones.Afterwards, all buildings were burned and all goods were confiscated".[65] On that day in Wola Ostrowiecka 529 Poles were murdered [...].

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

So much for following orders and murdering only adult males. In 1992, the bodies of the murdered were exhumed in Wola Ostrowiecka. Look at the head wounds and read the descriptions of this typical action repeated throught Volhynia - then put up a monument gloryfing the killers.

kresy.pl/wolyn/lubomelski/index.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Wola_Ostrowiecka
1jola   
3 Mar 2010
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I AM AN ENGLISHMAN,AND STUMBLED ON THIS WEBSITE BY ACCIDENT.

So it is good time to tell you very few Poles post here, just in case the PolishForums label suggest otherwise to you. Welcome, stick around.

There is a thread called Jewish love for Poles if you prefer, started by a regular troll Southern who keeps coming back. He's not Polish either.
1jola   
3 Mar 2010
History / just before the war the Polish/Ukrainian szlachta learned Ukrainian [243]

Nathan would have the ignorant believe that OUN/UPA fascists, who did not have the support of majority of Ukrainians, were some freedom fighters for Ukraine's independence as if somewhere in history they had lost independence. Ukraine as a state is a 20th century invention, and in 1943 they were mass-killing Polish civilians on occupied Polish lands. The genocide of the civilian population in Volhynia makes OUN/UPA no better than the Einsatzgruppen, and but Germans do not glorify butchers . The Ukrainians have noone else to glorify so they glorify mass-murderers. From Ukrainian archives we even have documents authorizing mass-murder of civilians and commanders reporting their successes, much like the Einsatzgruppen Reports reported liquidation of Jews.

Beginning in 1943, the UPA adopted a policy of massacring and expelling the Polish population of Volhynia and Eastern Galicia.[57] The ethnic cleansing operation against the ethnic Polish population began on a large scale in March of that year and lasted until the end of 1944.[58] In Volhynia deadly acts of aggression, including the mass murder of Poles, occurred throughout 1943 before spreading to eastern Galicia in early 1944. In June 1943, Dmytro Klyachkivsky head-commander of UPA-North made a general decision to exterminate all Poles living in Volhynia.

wiki on UPA

Dmytro Klyachkivsky, UPA commander's directive:

We should undertake the great action of the liqutidation of the Polish element. As the German armies withdraw, we should take advantage of this convenient moment for liquidating the entire male population in the age from 16 up to 60 years. We cannot lose this fight, and it is necessary at all costs to weaken Polish forces. Villages and settlements laying next to the massive forests, should disappear from the face of the earth

A few Ukis can call him a hero, just as there are a few Germans who consider Himmler a hero, or Russians who call Beria a hero. Take your filth to some neo-nazi forum, Nathan, but here you look like a troll.

I'll get back to you on the 14th SS Ukrainian fighting only Soviets to open your eyes who you are worshiping.