News / Poland's economic future? [294]


Lucky I don't eat Big Macs. I would have choked on it, I'm laughing so much.
Well, there are tears anyway. For my second home. Prosperity my arse.


Are you absolutely sure that you have an education Dirk? Can we see your qualifications, or maybe your pedigree certificate? You are of the human race, right? Only hools and skins chant those pathetic words - I had you down as better than that.

News / Road deaths increase in Poland [43]


So you are in the perfect situation to compare the UK system, which is a definite one (the pedestrians' foot is on the road - the driver MUST stop if safe to do so in the distance given - and this permitted braking distance clearly does not apply if he is speeding) and the totally mixed up Polish system - where I believe that nobody knows for sure what the law actually is.

But given that personal opinion, which one do you think, as a Pole, is safer?

News / Road deaths increase in Poland [43]


You surely can't mean that? Do you drive in the UK? (your profile says you live there). From your outwardly pro-car bias, you likely do. The Highway Code is very clear:

"Move ahead when it is safe to do so, proceeding at a speed that is appropriate to the conditions, and paying attention to other road users." The term road users also clearly refers to pedestrians crossing the road.

Your opinion is completely about face in my view. It is the pedestrian that has the right of way, not the car. When you are driving near a pedestrian crossing, you should be assuming that there is the possibility that the person will step out, and drive accordingly. As to legal action in the event of a collision, that is for the police and their witnesses to note and for the courts to decide.

The Belisha beacon flashing warning light has saved literally thousands of lives, and Polish roads are a deathtrap, and badly need something similar, so that drivers can clearly see where the pedestrian crossing is. I blame the town halls for being filled with idiots (and that includes town planners and engineers) who have no real concept of how dark and insufficiently signposted pedestrian crossings are.

It really is a scandal, and it needs addressing urgently, but not with barriers for pedestrians - as I stated, you place the car first, and that has no legal standpoint.

News / Road deaths increase in Poland [43]


Unfortunately sometimes there are actually too many crossings, such as every 150 metres on one Katowice Zaleze street , so that old ladies can "cross the road in safety". The thinking is, "If I stopped at every pedestrian crossing for every poor person who doesn't have a car, I would be late for my shift at the mine."

Answer - get up earlier.
Johnny is right about cameras, but in well-heeled downtown 3 city there are none. Zilch.

News / Road deaths increase in Poland [43]


The UK has it right, as usual. Not stopping when the pedestrians' foot is in the road on the pedestrian crossing means a nailed on driving ban. But life is much cheaper here, so as others have said, watch out.

We should have local vigilante groups to dissuade speeding drivers, but some Poles seem to think speeding is a joke and somehow to be admired as skilful. A ban would teach them the error of their ways, but the police are too busy warming their toes in the police station and attending disciplinary hearings. Sign of the times.

News / Poland's economic future? [294]


That's not true shirley - I mean Dolno? If it weren't for government "experts" buying futures at stupid prices then there would be no problem. The world price for Russian gas is projected by the IMF to be around 4.5 dollars/1000 cubic metres to 2025, and the level of technological supply supports this. Wars would change that, but then you could sit under the table and point your arse in Russia's direction anyway:)

Burning gas here, and warm as toast. Dog appreciates it too.


Well, if they did, the prices would be cheaper wouldn't they? Even I can see the simple economics in that....
And of course Belchatow pollutes Krakow. Didn't you know that? Sarcasm is all very well, in it's place:) But this is not a laughing matter is it?

News / Poland's economic future? [294]


Nonsense - it's a lifestyle choice. If we take a hundred kg of coal and compare it's BTU to the same cost in natural gas....it's obvious which is the more efficient.

Some poster (Dolno I think) said the government really cares for its' citizens. If they really did, there would be more sizable grants in place to swop to gas, and heavy penalties like in Western Europe for burning coal. And the miners can go **** themselves if they don't like it.

If people can't afford to heat their houses without making the air unbreathable throughout Silesia and the cities, they should consider downsizing their property.

In the meantime, Poland seems to enjoy being stuck in a Victorian age. If it wasn't so dangerous it might be amusing.

As for Belchatow and it's brown coal powering 40 percent of Poland's energy needs, well, that's a total environmental disaster that reduces lifespan in Krakow and further east downwind. But hey, the government really cares for its' people right?

Love / Dating in Poland not able to speak Polish [24]

youtu.be/felROXw_SaI

Just take this advice from The Man.

News / Road deaths increase in Poland [43]


Lol. Like the infamous proclamation from Jerzy Urban that "There are no AIDS cases in the People's Republic - we would not allow such things to happen here."

The government rhetoric hasn't changed at all has it?

News / Poland's economic future? [294]


When was that Dolno? In some Shangri-La?
You know what happens when a state spends money it hasn't got Dolno. Britain in the 1960s. You would know well how life was there in the 1970s as a result. We are still paying for it now, it's called austerity. Your grandchildren (if they actually live in Poland) will be sorting out this financial mess. My daughter, on the other hand, has already washed her hands of it and moved away. Wake up and smell the coffee, because it's going to turn rancid pretty quickly, This government and other populists like them will implode the economy given the time and freedom to make a total mess of things.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


To their eternal shame. I would kick my wife into touch if she was one of those people. I couldn't live with some old hypocritical bigot lacking any brain cells.

Each to their own I suppose. I hope it chokes them.


Someone has to educate his neighbour about the wrongs and rights of the matter Dirk. Happy to be here.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]


Ha! Post of the thread so far. You are missing the point a little though. Some are here, or enter on this board to have an argument with themselves, not to be reasonable or logical, or enter into debate about the EU and all it entails.

Dirk likes to play the "concerned citizen" when in fact his views count for nothing, because he doesn't live here and likely never will.

Travel / Białowieża National Park in Poland [461]

A chap owned half a hillside near Wadowice. He was always bragging how much such and such trees were worth, and complaining bitterly how much the fine would be if he as much as cut one of them down.

If we revolved in the same circle today he would say it was pay-back time unfortunately, all the while waving his wad in my face. That hill side is probably selectively bare today. Isn't the market flooded? This does not compute.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


In a crude way it is. By voting PIS, when PolAms have no right to interfere in OUR affairs, they are perpetuating the myth that America gives a flying **** about Poland. You may have a home here. I have a home in Nottingham and UK investments, meagre as they are against your stated wealth. (Only kidding you). That does not mean I can vote there because I don't contribute by working there and pay UK taxes as "Pay As You Earn". Neither do you here, and neither do the huge majority of those PolAms.

The Polish government is simply using you as tools to abuse those of us who actually contribute.
I hope that clears it up for you Dirk:)

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Yes, because the Poles want your Neo-Con vote and Pol-Am donations. It's an out of date concept though, and ought to be scrapped. If you don't live here, Polish affairs are none of your business, the same as I can only criticise the Tories back in the UK, but quite rightly don't have a stake until I return there.


Sikorski was right - the Yanks don't give a stuff about you - just as they didn't in Two World Wars, until, true to TheOthers theories, it was in their economic interests to come in and mop up.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Says a poster from a pariah state. That's rich, a Serbian talking of honour. Individuals, undoubtedly have honour - not the state and it's murderers, and there is no way back for Serbia until it formally apologises for its' war crimes IMO.


Like the nationalists prepared for defending you in 1939 Dirk? You are in America, not Poland, and you really don't know what you are talking about. Only the plutonium bomb would safeguard you, and nobody is going to be stupid enough to give it to Poland. It's bad enough that Israel have it, without another nationalistic mob threatening the rest of us:))

So it#s up to us Brits and Nato to defend you - but don't thank us!!:)))

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Yep - knew that. Unlike Dirk and Ironside and Polonia, I have actually lived in the country for 27 years, plus visiting time. So know a little about Pilsudki, Dmowski, and the rest. As I said before, Poland wanted to stand aloof then, just like now. It's aka pride,, disguised as nationalism, and it doesn't pay dividends in the long term. Together, as a united Europe, we can stand against Russia, otherwise there's going to be trouble of some sort in the future. And your nationalism will stand for Jack Squat then.


Mmm - maybe.... but the Lutwaffe was depleted after 41, so that's debatable?

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Got a globe handy Dirk? I guess you could also use that Google Map thingy.........
Warsaw was as far away as the moon in 1939 - but you seem to know better? I repeat, please do outline for us, General Dirk, how it could have been done?

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Why is this the best time? I agree with Ironside. This is a Daily Mail type story. Don't give the morons the publicity that they seek (and oft-times Jewish authorities also play this up needlessly).

If this were Germany then imprison them, but let them have their wankfest and let the mosquitoes bite them in the ass.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Glorious and proud.

That doesn't excuse PIS lies that Poles didn't give up any Jews of any substantial number to the Nazis? What would you and I have done? To safeguard my family I am bloody sure I would have. But no, the Pole (according to PIS) is always valiant and God fearing, and would risk all. So, with that in mind, PIS set about changing the history of the tragedy of war to suit their own nationalist agenda.

Disgusting, and likely libellious.


No use against the Germans? Why? Balsawood gun turrets? Dirk was saying that Britain should have spirited its' forces through Westerplatte, politely asking the Germans to stand aside to let them through with a "I say, old chap..."

And all the while, the best of your ships had cut and run?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

Tri-City is solidly anti-PIS Ironside. Nothing at all communist in thinking here. We leave that to Polska B. That is partly why Tri-City is the most popular place to live. Next gripe?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Again, your ignorance of the facts does not stand debate Dirk. Do please tell us how many British Navy ships were in the Baltic at the outbreak of war? In actual fact, as anybody in Gdynia knows.... the Polish fleet, such as it was, had already been evacuated to Britain.

You are postulating to yourself and not making any sense. When something goes wrong in our own lives, we have a good hard look in the mirror. And try not to fall into the age old trap of solely blaming others. Countries as a collective should do the same.


A populists' and idiots' guide to the war, and one that will be discredited and ripped up as cynical and disingenuous pulp fiction in the years to come. Do you dispute Davies's take on this governments' laughable attempts at Revisionist history?


I am married to an "adult." 95 percent of my "adult" students share her view. That PIS and the revisionists are at best nuts, and possibly much worse, in their interference in museums' depiction of war history.


Where did you get that chesnut Dirk:)) Later in the war, the time you are referring to, when Stalin "bested Hitler" as you memorably state, the Soviets saw the value of actually not murdering officers, or at least keeping that side of their activities for the future. You are in fact referring to another period of the war. Here to help!

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Could Britain send heavy duty military hardware to Poland today within a time frame to make a difference Dirk - somehow avoiding "interest" from a vast militaristic dictatorship that would chew up those shipments and spit them out?

As before, I refer you to a map of the world. Please do show the forum how such forces would have been logistically possible. We vowed to fight on your behalf and we did. We started (the war) and we were there at the finish.

In the meantime, Poland went back 30 years. Ask Roosevelt about that if you must. Now the country is free - thanks to brave people who half of the population dismiss - yet you (who should not have the vote) elect another dictatorial government.

Every country gets the leaders it deserves etc... Why not try learning by your mistakes?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


The majority of those were British colonies Dirk...........
As for Ireland, at least they didn't fight for the Nazis, which was nice of them in the circumstances:)

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Like the Americans you mean, with their dismissal of a slight European interruption to business as usual, as "This European war...."
Would you declare war on a big bully in the playground, who has already beaten your mates to a pulp and not even broken sweat? Takes guts, I would have said.

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Kaprys, don't be so silly. The old and cynical criticise their own country too. That's what age gives you - a rose tinted and often erroneous power of reflection, which isn't always a bad thing.

And I will continue to deride nationalist Poles who refuse to be grateful; for anything at all, because that would diminish the glory that is Poland - which was the side issue to this thread (who helped Poland - when she didn't help herself, by choosing nationalism in the 1930s instead of democracy).

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


G, my generation was like your fathers'. Ration cards, building site cities, grim faces. We bankrupted ourselves and lost our place in the world so that we could all be free. Phony war was sadly necessary, to re-arm, (as of course, you in fact know) and if Hitler had attacked in that period it would have been the worse for all of us. It is you Poles who really should drop the bias and realise that your system was lying to you, and stop the slander against Britain.

Not that I personally give a ****. I am just sad when otherwise intelligent people come up to me at a party and say "Why didn't you help us in 1939...:"

Then I instantly know everything about that person, that they are dim enough to have permitted themselves to be brainwashed by their past communist system, and have to feel sorry for them. Not a nice feeling, laughing silently in someone's face, is it?

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


G, it's not opinion but fact. If Dunkirk hadn't happened, and we hadn't saved our trained soldiers, we might well have had to sue for peace. Then Monte Cassino wouldn't have happened would it, seeing as Germany would have won.

Not my revelation, but that of historians. We, the British, stood up the Germans, whilst you, the Poles, capitulated in three weeks. If you hadn't had such a nationalistic leader as Pilsudski, maybe we would have been allowed to help you earlier. Probably not. Nobody could stand up to an all-powerful Germany, until we re-armed of course, and started bloodying their nose.

Now, in the present day, you go on and on about being the victims, whilst repeating the same old nationalistic mistakes, of alienating your neighbours with your idiotic posturing and defying of the EU, a club that you signed up to .

It will all end up in tears again chap if you don't shape up!

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


If we hadn't declared war Dirk, who would? Your darling American brethren? The French - who were quite happy to cower behind their seemingly impregnable Maginot Line? Except that it wasn't finished. You wouldn't have had any battle to fight at Monte Cassino if it weren't for us. You would now be speaking German, which may or may not be a loss to yourself, because it's a wonderful culture - when they're not winning World Cups or threatening world domination.

We recognised this fact, and declared war on the bastards. But if we had General Dirk, he would have magically led our forces through the German rearguard, past their invading forces, and attacked them from the North or South - or some mythical place.

If we had then with no rhyme or reason, given up our only line of defence against the Lutwaffe, in a pointless attempt to stem the tide 1000 km from our bases, relying on the Dutch, and flying over hostile territory, leaving just how long to possibly straffe the Krauts with what exactly, leading us to certain defeat, and the world to a Dark Age.

But you don't believe that, do you Dirk? After all, your fathers' nation has been successfully brainwashed. You don't actually realise, because you are too far removed, that actually, Hitler came rather close to winning the bloody war?

You're having a laugh except it ain't funny and totally disrespectful to the memory of those brave servicemen. And may I kindly suggest you pay more attention in your geography lessons because you seem to have no clue as to where Britain could have spirited its' non existent divisions and its' non existent "hundreds of Spitfires" to counter the invasion.

Your ranting sound as though they are part of a history lesson. And a tad tedious and patronising. We all know that history, if we have a brain, or maybe you are writing for Polonia - American students don't know those historical facts in your posts, tis true......:))

My rant is all mine:)

Oh, and the Spitfire Mk2 was vastly superior in maneuverability to the Kraut machines, thanks to much greater horsepower, so there! :)

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Jon - don't bother. Poles everywhere, who are unable to think for themselves, have been brainwashed into the lie that Britain somehow "left Poland to its' fate" in 1939.

It was communist teaching and nothing has changed even now. And Dirk et al get that shite from their grandfathers. Brainwashed and ignorant of the facts - and even worse - unwilling to learn.