USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


So is this thread about categorizing your real life contacts Antek or is it about Polish-Americans in general? I ask because these two types you have delineated seem to be about immigrants from Poland who have arrived recently in America and gotten citizenship, but these Polish-Americans are by far the minority of Polish-Americans. Polish-Americans number some 10 million people most of whom are 2nd, or 2rd, or, 4rth generation American citizens. We do not need to "try to melt" into American society because we are an integral part of it and have been so for decades. Most of us do not even try to maintain a link to Poland either nor do we consider ourselves Polish ambassadors. That being said we do not fit into category A, but that hardly makes us part of category B by default as most of its bullet points only apply to recent immigrants as well. If this thread's categorization of Polish-Americans was intended to be exhaustive then it has failed miserably.

Life / How many Jewish people live in Poland? [145]

This is a myth. Do you claim usury is as well?

Life / How many Jewish people live in Poland? [145]


Are you sure that usury had nothing to do with the demonization of Jews in Poland?

News / How long will it take for the first 9/11 to occur in Poland? [55]


Hopefully Poland's exemplary behavior towards its own Muslim population and it lack of meddling in the Arab world, that is until the Iraq War fiasco, will keep Poland off the list of targets for terrorists.

News / How long will it take for the first 9/11 to occur in Poland? [55]


I highly endorse this advice. Poles should remember that their honorable treatment of their Muslim Tartar population over the centuries, and those Tatars honorable treatment of Poland, is a shining example of how Christians and Muslims can cooperate in Europe. Poland should never throw its lot in with Zionists. Zionists have behaved atrociously in Palestine and the greater Levant, dispossessing and massacring Muslims and Christians. Having made themselves persona non grata they seek to enlist other nations in their racist scemes. The Zionists were happy to steer the USA into a disasterous foriegn policy in the Middle-East, and they are happy that it earned the USA hatred from Muslims. Poland should reject Zionism and come September Poland should vote in the U.N. General Assembly to recognize a Palestinian state and make it clear to the Zionists that Poland upholds the right of return for all Palestinian refugees as well. Poland is a Republic wherein everyone has equal rights regardless of their religion. The Zionist ethnocracy is utterly beneath Poland in moral standing.

History / Lancers' fantasies (fantaisies) - Polish revellers [5]


This is indeed very witty. I would go so far as to say that this General's philosophy of wine, women, and horses represents what is best about Poland. He even devised a way to "drill" more than one prostitute at a time!

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Why do you think we should have to pay to discuss religion and politics Antek? Do you think that spouting the cliche about there being no free lunches is an explanation for why you think stifling the free exchange of ideas on the forum is a good idea? Ideas are as free as the wind and they should stay that way.

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Why do you wish to eliminate free public debate about religion and politics on this forum Antek?

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Antek, you complain about the heavy handedness of the moderators and then you propose this "real revolution" which would stifle freedom of speech on this forum by eliminating debate on two of the most important subjects anyone ever talks about. Religion and politics are famously discouraged as topics of discussion at dinner parties, but this is not a dinner party this is a discussion forum. And now I see you are proposing that people should to have to pay to be able to discuss religion and politics!

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


That would make this thread an even more ridiculous exercise in amphetamine fueled futile categorization than it already is.

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


This thread is a critique of Polish-Americans on this discussion forum. I am the topic.

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


I copied the word from DeQuincy's text. Either he was wrong or you are.


Not "faff" but a reference to the sublime philosophy of Martin Heidegger. You would do well to read him think and about what he says and maybe thereby get rid of your petty attitudes towards life that make you believe you have outgrown philosophical endeavor and that prompt you to offer advice to others about how "to get ahead".

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

Alex, if you honestly believe I give a crap about Oxbridge dons, and that I wish to dine with them, then you are mistakenly projecting aspirations from your own milieu upon me.


You wrote these same words in response to one of my posts soon after I joined this forum and now I pity you because you are repetitive.


If any of my references to philosophy are not relevant to the topics being discussed then please point them out. I don't remember you having done so so far. What is stopping you?

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Because I am a better writer than you.


That Scotts can integrate into Polish society and even be blown up in protest when Polish burgermeisters make bad decisions was noticed by me. I quite admire the inclusive multi-cultural nature of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.


As I said in a previous post I do not fit into either of the "types" you are trying to pigeon hole 10 million Polish-Americans into.


I do not know what the say about "Calis" please enlighten me.

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]

You didn't think Sienkiewicz's moustache theme was funny in the Trilogy? Well I did and I was glad that Pan Wołodyjowski didn't marry her also because Sienkiewicz said she got fat. As for your "types" I do not fall into either A nor B. I am a third generation Polish-American that has come to this forum to learn Polish history. I do not vote in Polish elections, nor do any of my extended family. I do not look down upon Poles. I have called you a jackass Antek but that is my judgement of you based upon your erratic posts and your silly jumping to conclusions. I certainly do not see you as being representative of Poland, nor are you one of the Poles with whom I would like to communicate, namely the intellectuals of Poland.

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


And he married the chick with the moustache too!

History / Symbols & Signs in Polish History, Culture & Life [89]


Oh wow, it is true I read this story from a pamplet published in honor of Pulaski Day, which is a Polish-American holiday in honor of Casimir because he fought in the Revolutionary War that freed the USA from British rule.


Wow! Lech following an eagle is amazingly similar to the Aztec foundational legend which is depicted on the Mexican flag.


Here is a link to an English language telling of the Twardowski story:

gutenberg.org/files/20740/20740-h/20740-h.htm#Page_237

USA, Canada / Polish-Americans as seen in the false mirror. Type A and Type B. [141]


Polonia in the USA comprises 10 million people most of whom are descended from Poles who left before the 2nd Republic even began. The vast majority of us do not vote in Polish elections.

Genealogy / SEARCHING FOR A RUSSIAN FATHER.....where to begin.... [12]

Topeagle, do you honestly believe that some Poles are slovenly enough to have not washed their glasses in 20 years or Germanic enough to have saved soiled underpants for two decades too?

Food / No Vernor's ginger ale in Poland? [29]


My parents are from there and my mother likes that stuff. I find it absolutely disgusting, and I will drink almost anything, but that stuff is repellent, and its not that I dislike ginger, far from it, I love ginger in food especially of the Thai variety.

Life / How many Jewish people live in Poland? [145]


There is a posh Polish restaurant in Santa Monica and everytime I've been there I've seen Jewish looking guys eating alone and staring at the other diners with thoughtful eyes and I suspected they were trying to get a feel for what it was like for their ancestors to be surrounded by Poles. I remember that one of them seemed really interested when a family dining sang Stolat.

Life / How many Jewish people live in Poland? [145]


I was wondering about this too. It would have been the first language of many, or most, of the Jews in Poland for several centuries up until WWII but do the Jews of Poland still speak it today?

History / Symbols & Signs in Polish History, Culture & Life [89]

Yes, Arthur was probably confusing the two beasts, or perhaps he was unaware that the aurochs was already extinct.

History / Symbols & Signs in Polish History, Culture & Life [89]


The story of the white eagle is as follows: The first King of Poland enjoyed falconry and he decided that if falcons and hawks could be trained to hunt, for people, then perhaps eagles could be so trained as well. He located a white eagle's nest that contained young eaglets and he climbed up to steal one. Upon reaching the nest the mother eagle stood in front of her young and fought the king as he tried to grab an eaglet. The king drew his dagger and pricked the mother eagle in the chest thinking that she would fly away and thereby allow him to get the eaglet he sought, but the brave mother eagle still fought on despite the red blood staining her white feathers. The king became ashamed of himself and he relented, and out of admiration for this noble bird's defense of her young he proclaimed that from then on the white eagle would be the symbol of Poland and the Polish flag would be red and white because those were the colors of the white eagle's bloody breast. I said that the Polish flag is therefore green in the sense that green is the symbolic color of those who have decided to respect nature as this king decided to do when he climbed down from that eagle's nest leaving the eaglets to grow up wild and free.


Indeed, Arthur Schopenhauer even criticized this attempt to stave off the extinction of the aurochs in the second volume of his great work The World As Will And Representation. He wrote "But to inflict the punishment of death for shooting an aurochs, as is done in Poland, is too much, for the preservation of the species of the aurochs must not be purchased with human life." (Chapter XLVII On Ethics)

History / Symbols & Signs in Polish History, Culture & Life [89]

The white eagle is the greatest symbol Poland because the story behind it, about the first king of Poland learning to respect nature, is one of the wisest and most charming stories ever told. When I see the Polish flag I think of that brave mother eagle's blood stained feathers and I know that despite being red and white the Polish flag is green.

Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]


The equivalent noun in English is not cosmopolitan, but rather cosmopolite.

Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]


I think you may be right about it being a noun in English too for a citizen of the world, or cosmos. In English the word Neopolitan can be a noun meaning a citizen of Naples as well as an adjective meaning of Naples.

Life / The Polish Way to Ask Questions [41]


Not when it refers to a girlie martini.

Life / Uptight Poles [262]

Why are C's and K's transposable when spelling the name of that city?

Language / Use of A/An/The ...... Articles [186]


Both of these may be correct, but in the first instance it must mean that one seldom speaks Polish without stipulating how fluent one is in Polish, while the latter instance is a statement about one's limited fluency in Polish.