delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
News / Children licking cream off a Polish priest's legs "inappropriate" says NGO [116]
It's not enough to give it up, they should fire him and make it clear that if it happens again in the school, then further heads will roll. The fact that he's still clinging to his job says how little honour he has.
On a related note, these practices are banned in my school - officially.
I'm surprised. Very surprised.
The order that runs the school announced giving up such initiation practices in the future.
It's not enough to give it up, they should fire him and make it clear that if it happens again in the school, then further heads will roll. The fact that he's still clinging to his job says how little honour he has.
On a related note, these practices are banned in my school - officially.
Local prosecutors don`t. They started official investigation into the case. Going to find out if kids weren`t abused sexually.
I'm surprised. Very surprised.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / My wife is Polish and our son was born. British passport? [9]
That explains something - I know some guys from Zimbabwe who are as British as they come, yet they hold Zim passports.
That explains something - I know some guys from Zimbabwe who are as British as they come, yet they hold Zim passports.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Life / General questions for those who have chosen to make Poland their home [32]
A passion for history, what else? I don't have to fool around with flying, hiring a car, etc if I want to go and explore - I can just go. Last trip was an utter disappointment in historical terms, but it was partially a business trip.
A passion for history, what else? I don't have to fool around with flying, hiring a car, etc if I want to go and explore - I can just go. Last trip was an utter disappointment in historical terms, but it was partially a business trip.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
There's your disqualification right there, unfortunately.
I believe he did
There's your disqualification right there, unfortunately.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / Born in Poland. Obtaining British Passport? [27]
Darts ;) I've lost my skill now, but I used to be fairly good...
It's common in sport - there are Brits going the other way, too. Fiona May was an excellent example of this - and there are others.
For what - the midget arm wrestling contest?
Darts ;) I've lost my skill now, but I used to be fairly good...
It bothers me slightly the amount of Polish expats willing to give up nationalisation based on facilities which other countries offer.
It's common in sport - there are Brits going the other way, too. Fiona May was an excellent example of this - and there are others.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
Under the 1951 Act (which is what you should start with) - no.
A relevant question - did your grandfather have a Canadian passport at any time before 1962?
I know very complicated family history...but I did read somewhere a Polish citizen need permission from the Polish government to gain foreign citizenship?
Under the 1951 Act (which is what you should start with) - no.
A relevant question - did your grandfather have a Canadian passport at any time before 1962?
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
This gets even more interesting. I think you're going to have to examine the French and Canadian citizenship laws to discover what he might have had - but as far as I can see - if he applied for naturalisation, then he would have automatically became a Canadian citizen under the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946. This would have resulted in him being stripped of Polish citizenship under Article 11, Paragraph 5 of the 1951 Citizenship Act in Poland. Likewise with your grandfather - although it's not crystal clear as to whether your grandfather would have actually obtained Canadian citizenship.
All roads are suggesting that your grandfather would have been stripped of Polish citizenship under the 1951 Act at least - is he still alive?
This gets even more interesting. I think you're going to have to examine the French and Canadian citizenship laws to discover what he might have had - but as far as I can see - if he applied for naturalisation, then he would have automatically became a Canadian citizen under the Canadian Citizenship Act of 1946. This would have resulted in him being stripped of Polish citizenship under Article 11, Paragraph 5 of the 1951 Citizenship Act in Poland. Likewise with your grandfather - although it's not crystal clear as to whether your grandfather would have actually obtained Canadian citizenship.
All roads are suggesting that your grandfather would have been stripped of Polish citizenship under the 1951 Act at least - is he still alive?
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / Born in Poland. Obtaining British Passport? [27]
They selected him, so why not? :)
I'd represent Poland if selected, too.
Question is as far as i can see, why do you want to represent GB?
They selected him, so why not? :)
I'd represent Poland if selected, too.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
Ouch - this is actually going to be much more complicated for you. Is your grandfather still alive, and when did he obtain Canadian citizenship?
Article 11, paragraph 5 from the Citizenship Act 1951 would disqualify your grandfather if he obtained Canadian citizenship before 1962.
It would be remarkably surprising if he didn't lose it - but the real problem is your grandfather. If he obtained Canadian citizenship before 1962 and is now no longer alive - then I'm afraid you're out of luck.
Poland doesn't care about "traditions", Poland cares about law.
As for your usual accusation of "polonophobia", lay off the PiS newspapers, eh?
Also to be clear this is my PRAdziadek we're talking about, he had my grandfather in 1935, then my mother was born in 1960.....I want to get citizenship for my mother...
Ouch - this is actually going to be much more complicated for you. Is your grandfather still alive, and when did he obtain Canadian citizenship?
Article 11, paragraph 5 from the Citizenship Act 1951 would disqualify your grandfather if he obtained Canadian citizenship before 1962.
It seems like either way he might have lost citizenship?
It would be remarkably surprising if he didn't lose it - but the real problem is your grandfather. If he obtained Canadian citizenship before 1962 and is now no longer alive - then I'm afraid you're out of luck.
Polish traditions have been passed on in your family through generations, your Polish is good enough, that's half the battle right there
Poland doesn't care about "traditions", Poland cares about law.
As for your usual accusation of "polonophobia", lay off the PiS newspapers, eh?
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Life / General questions for those who have chosen to make Poland their home [32]
(quick answer)
Try living in the North of Scotland for years and you'll soon understand why living 2 hours from Berlin, 3 hours from Warsaw, 8 hours from Vienna/Bratislava, 10 hours from Budapest/Vilnius and much more is highly attractive ;)
That - and more opportunity in terms of career. I run a department at work and have a fair bit of responsibility - it just wouldn't happen so quickly in the UK.
Why did you choose to live in another country as opposed to live in your own one?
(quick answer)
Try living in the North of Scotland for years and you'll soon understand why living 2 hours from Berlin, 3 hours from Warsaw, 8 hours from Vienna/Bratislava, 10 hours from Budapest/Vilnius and much more is highly attractive ;)
That - and more opportunity in terms of career. I run a department at work and have a fair bit of responsibility - it just wouldn't happen so quickly in the UK.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
Wrong. Acquisition of a foreign citizenship under the 1920 and 1951 acts automatically caused the renunciation of Polish citizenship. The 18-50 age range is irrelevant - as far as I recall, you're thinking about the foreign military service clause.
It'll be on you to prove that he didn't obtain Canadian citizenship during that time.
Wrong. Acquisition of a foreign citizenship under the 1920 and 1951 acts automatically caused the renunciation of Polish citizenship. The 18-50 age range is irrelevant - as far as I recall, you're thinking about the foreign military service clause.
It'll be on you to prove that he didn't obtain Canadian citizenship during that time.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / Born in Poland. Obtaining British Passport? [27]
It's not really cheating - 700 quid is a lot of money, and the process is terribly long winded. He's good enough to be chosen to represent GB - so let him :)
(and personally - Poland's loss is our gain ;))
It's not really cheating - 700 quid is a lot of money, and the process is terribly long winded. He's good enough to be chosen to represent GB - so let him :)
(and personally - Poland's loss is our gain ;))
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
UK, Ireland / Born in Poland. Obtaining British Passport? [27]
I'd try contacting UK Sport - uksport.gov.uk - they're known for helping in cases like this. If that fails, contact Solveit - ec.europa.eu/solvit/ - they are very good in dealing with things like this.
No - once you turn 16, you get passports for 10 year periods.
I'd try contacting UK Sport - uksport.gov.uk - they're known for helping in cases like this. If that fails, contact Solveit - ec.europa.eu/solvit/ - they are very good in dealing with things like this.
but then I would have to renew it in October as I turn 18 wouldn't I ?
No - once you turn 16, you get passports for 10 year periods.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
Yep, that's the crucial thing - citizenship can only be claimed from the parents (and even then, subject to some strange laws - the 1920 act was quite woman-hating)
I personally know a person born in US, whose mother was not even born in Poland but had reclaimed her citizenship and thus he was able to so as well. And that was barely 2 years ago.
Yep, that's the crucial thing - citizenship can only be claimed from the parents (and even then, subject to some strange laws - the 1920 act was quite woman-hating)
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
It's not so simple - there are four relevant Citizenship Acts in Poland, and which ones are relevant depend on dates. But to cut a long story short, it works like this -
- You can only claim citizenship if you're entitled to it - this means that there needs to be a clear 'line' of citizenship being passed down.
- Obtaining a foreign citizenship before 1962 resulted in the automatic loss of Polish citizenship
- As of the Citizenship Act 2009, you can reclaim citizenship that was lost (but the claim must be made by the individual).
If the ancestor lost it and has now died, there is no possibility of claiming it.
The loss of citizenship is what catches most people out, as usually it meant that their parent(s) weren't Polish citizens to begin with. I'm not sure at the minute if they regard a newborn as having obtained (and then lost) citizenship in the case of Americans who obtain US citizenship under jus soli - there's no clear guidance from the authorities on this.
I would say, read the polish embassy/consulate relevant pages and/or just go and talk to them. If any of your direct predecessors have polish citizenship then you can obtain one.
It's not so simple - there are four relevant Citizenship Acts in Poland, and which ones are relevant depend on dates. But to cut a long story short, it works like this -
- You can only claim citizenship if you're entitled to it - this means that there needs to be a clear 'line' of citizenship being passed down.
- Obtaining a foreign citizenship before 1962 resulted in the automatic loss of Polish citizenship
- As of the Citizenship Act 2009, you can reclaim citizenship that was lost (but the claim must be made by the individual).
If the ancestor lost it and has now died, there is no possibility of claiming it.
The loss of citizenship is what catches most people out, as usually it meant that their parent(s) weren't Polish citizens to begin with. I'm not sure at the minute if they regard a newborn as having obtained (and then lost) citizenship in the case of Americans who obtain US citizenship under jus soli - there's no clear guidance from the authorities on this.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
It's not a matter of informing Poland - he renounced it automatically upon obtaining Canadian citizenship.
It's not a matter of informing Poland - he renounced it automatically upon obtaining Canadian citizenship.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Life / Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best? [518]
Why? Assimilation means that you engage with society - and being against the Church is every bit as Polish as being for the Church.
Can accept the Church even if not Catholic themselves.
Why? Assimilation means that you engage with society - and being against the Church is every bit as Polish as being for the Church.
delphiandomine
25 Sep 2012
Law / Citizenship of Poland can be obtained through the blood line but my ancestor could lose it in the past [45]
Actually, he could regain it - should he still be alive.
As for permission - if you have no record of it, then it's unlikely that the Polish powers that be can help.
My ancestor came to Canada in 1930 and was 24 years old, the only question on my mind about whether he lost his Polish citizenship is whether or not he was granted permission from the Polish government
Actually, he could regain it - should he still be alive.
As for permission - if you have no record of it, then it's unlikely that the Polish powers that be can help.
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]
It would be very funny indeed, especially relying on the word of some poor Poles in London!
And nor should they - the welfare state doesn't exist here to pick up after the father messes up.
Give him your worldly advice, it should be funny to hear the results.
It would be very funny indeed, especially relying on the word of some poor Poles in London!
They do not play by the EU rules here.
And nor should they - the welfare state doesn't exist here to pick up after the father messes up.
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Life / Typical for the Poloniandists [171]
Does living in the States instantly grant you a pass to be dumb, or something? I've met enough Polish Americans here to last a lifetime, thank you very much. As for speaking Polish - sorry, but a child could see through the rubbish printed and spoken by the usual suspects.
As for relying on the views of the people around me - I don't think so, sunshine. After all, I don't need to take advice from the woman in the local shop as to which cheap bottle to buy today.
No, please - some of us actually spend quite a lot of time indulging our passion for history. You know, doing stuff that goes beyond reading whatever rubbish you can read in Gazeta Polska or similar.
Wasn't aware that Obama was mentally ill or a dwarf. Is it because he's black and therefore your racist self just has to hate him?
That's good to know, but just living in Poland doesn't give you any advantage on Polish history or relations with Polish diaspora. You've never lived in the States, never personally met any Polish American, and you don't speak Polish to well understand what's going on in Poland. In your opinions you rely on opinions of people around you and you try to please them by parroting their views.
Does living in the States instantly grant you a pass to be dumb, or something? I've met enough Polish Americans here to last a lifetime, thank you very much. As for speaking Polish - sorry, but a child could see through the rubbish printed and spoken by the usual suspects.
As for relying on the views of the people around me - I don't think so, sunshine. After all, I don't need to take advice from the woman in the local shop as to which cheap bottle to buy today.
Please... what? Not to point out that all your historical knowledge comes from wiki?
No, please - some of us actually spend quite a lot of time indulging our passion for history. You know, doing stuff that goes beyond reading whatever rubbish you can read in Gazeta Polska or similar.
That's not a nice way to speak about current American president.
Wasn't aware that Obama was mentally ill or a dwarf. Is it because he's black and therefore your racist self just has to hate him?
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Off-Topic / Loading a photo of Poland from your mobile/cell phone takes 30 seconds, come on! [86]
Made me smile, thanks pawian :)
Made me smile, thanks pawian :)
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]
If she works full time, why isn't it reasonable? It is seen in Poland among educated circles that full time nursery is a must, especially because they do so much with children in nurseries here. If he cares about his child, a full time nursery is indeed a good start.
But as I say, you don't live here, you haven't got a clue about how society lives. 1700PLN a month isn't anything particularly special for a man of means to pay.
the expenses must be reasonable - full time nursery care aint reasonable!
If she works full time, why isn't it reasonable? It is seen in Poland among educated circles that full time nursery is a must, especially because they do so much with children in nurseries here. If he cares about his child, a full time nursery is indeed a good start.
But as I say, you don't live here, you haven't got a clue about how society lives. 1700PLN a month isn't anything particularly special for a man of means to pay.
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]
Well, one shot was remarked to be "a pleasant way to start the evening".
Four shots - well, the victim wasn't capable of speaking any sort of sense until the next day, when he remarked that he was pleasantly hangover-free.
Well, one shot was remarked to be "a pleasant way to start the evening".
Four shots - well, the victim wasn't capable of speaking any sort of sense until the next day, when he remarked that he was pleasantly hangover-free.
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]
The pain that a bottle of that caused some friends of mine...
is spiritus, cant get it now because of the liquid limit on flights..
The pain that a bottle of that caused some friends of mine...
delphiandomine
24 Sep 2012
Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]
And these are not really typical examples of Polish society too. I assure you that in a major city, 2500zl gross is a poor monthly wage. I know people earning that who work in hostels and suchlike.
You're told that by people who haven't got a clue what's normal. 2000zl take home is around what, perhaps 2800zl a month gross - which again is significantly lower than the average wage for the whole of Poland, let alone for the large cities. A very very good wage in Poland is around 8000-10000zl net a month.
If he was average, he'd be pushing 3000zl a month net. But then he wouldn't be buying a 50k car as well, which suggests that our friend is anything but average.
Because he earns enough to pay for it, clearly. If he's able to put 50k down for a car, 1700zl a month is nothing.
You've got no idea about Poland, so why are you commenting?
sorry delphine , but joe average aint creme de le creme of society.
And these are not really typical examples of Polish society too. I assure you that in a major city, 2500zl gross is a poor monthly wage. I know people earning that who work in hostels and suchlike.
im told the equivalent of £400 take home is very very good money.
You're told that by people who haven't got a clue what's normal. 2000zl take home is around what, perhaps 2800zl a month gross - which again is significantly lower than the average wage for the whole of Poland, let alone for the large cities. A very very good wage in Poland is around 8000-10000zl net a month.
joe average doesnt earn a mint in kracow , and cant afford to send his kid to the finest fulltime nursery
If he was average, he'd be pushing 3000zl a month net. But then he wouldn't be buying a 50k car as well, which suggests that our friend is anything but average.
i cant afford to pay for fulltime nursery myself - and im on an average uk wage.
Because he earns enough to pay for it, clearly. If he's able to put 50k down for a car, 1700zl a month is nothing.
and i suspect too expensive in poland as well
You've got no idea about Poland, so why are you commenting?
delphiandomine
23 Sep 2012
Life / Typical for the Poloniandists [171]
Let's just say that I'm sober when assessing materials, as well as actually living in Poland.
Wiki entries - really? I use them as an introduction to a topic, but...please.
And yes, you're right. I'm incredibly biased against morons who support a mentally ill dwarf who produces insane plans that couldn't be funded in a million years.
What makes you such an expert on Polish history and social issues? High school diploma from the UK, if you even have that? You read wiki entries but you have no idea how to interpret topics, as you are lacking broader knowledge and context. You just pick bites and sounds and form a definite "opinion". Plus you are willfully biased.
Let's just say that I'm sober when assessing materials, as well as actually living in Poland.
Wiki entries - really? I use them as an introduction to a topic, but...please.
And yes, you're right. I'm incredibly biased against morons who support a mentally ill dwarf who produces insane plans that couldn't be funded in a million years.
delphiandomine
23 Sep 2012
Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]
I would love you forever and ever if you made such a thread :) I want to get into it, but I have no idea how to go about doing it from a Poland point of view (equipment, etc).
I would guess it's not like that here - wine is hideously expensive for crap.
Delph, to be honest, I never thought of it. It isn`t too interesting as you can buy all kinds of wine today.
I would love you forever and ever if you made such a thread :) I want to get into it, but I have no idea how to go about doing it from a Poland point of view (equipment, etc).
and you can buy better wine for not much more than home made
I would guess it's not like that here - wine is hideously expensive for crap.
delphiandomine
23 Sep 2012
Law / Child Alimony in Poland - 1700 PLN? [74]
Why? It's his child too, and if he's got 50k to blow on a car, he can afford a decent nursery.
Those friends are likely not exactly the...creme de la creme of Polish society. 1700zl a month isn't even 2500zl gross - which is significantly below average, especially in Krakow.
But she would also get benefits to top that sum up. They don't exist in Poland, so the father pays.
Really? Half of average is over 2000zl these days in Krakow. Nice of you to see that you agree with the amount!
Bearing in mind that he's marrying another woman soon, I suspect it's not her that wanted to stay by herself.
if the woman wants a decent nursey - let her pay for it herself..
Why? It's his child too, and if he's got 50k to blow on a car, he can afford a decent nursery.
i have so many friends in the uk , all which assure me that a wage of 1700 pln a month is above average ....
Those friends are likely not exactly the...creme de la creme of Polish society. 1700zl a month isn't even 2500zl gross - which is significantly below average, especially in Krakow.
you saying that this guy should be paying a fulltime average wage to her ?- cant imagine anything similar over here - at best shed get 16 per cent of his earnings.....
But she would also get benefits to top that sum up. They don't exist in Poland, so the father pays.
the most this guy should pay is half an average earning
Really? Half of average is over 2000zl these days in Krakow. Nice of you to see that you agree with the amount!
if she wants to play little miss independant and raise the kiddy all by herself - let het pay for it HERSELF, and if she cant then she shouldnt have had it .
Bearing in mind that he's marrying another woman soon, I suspect it's not her that wanted to stay by herself.
delphiandomine
23 Sep 2012
Life / Let`s compare prices of services and products in Poland [359]
Pawian, how about a homemade wine making thread? :)
Bullseye!
Pawian, how about a homemade wine making thread? :)