Classifieds / ANGLORAMA WARSZTATY JĘZYKOWE [6]

Never received it:-)
Try tarsape@gmail
Just got yours, Shaun and replied:-)
Thanks again!

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Thank you Adolf Hitler, masquerading as Herbert Spencer.

Always amuses me how those gleefully scoffing at the basic concept of fairness, all but taken for granted by everyone until our whole society got derailed, round about 1981 or so, themselves are generally W.A.S.P.s who've swallowed all that Puritan bilge ("If you can't keep yourself, don't expect others to!") without remembering a far older saying, namely, "Charity begins at home."

"Laugh and world laughs with you.." so begins that famous poem by Catherine Bateman (??), if I recall. Well, although a popular sentiment of the day, was as untrue then as it is now. It is precisely when help is most honestly needed, when want is most keenly felt, and where hurt is most sorely apparent, it is then that nobody should be expected to weep alone. The tools of "self-help" (already an oxymoron of sorts this phrase) are only available when it is available to all.

The continued backlash of such thinking is too horrible to contemplate, and if people disagree, THEY are wrong, not I, and they shall suffer.

I side with the French; have money, just don't speak of it. The same thing applies to good health.
If you're not willing to share, you oughtn't be willing to have, it's that simple!!

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

Jews were nonetheless a minority within Poland, that is all I was saying, so please leave us not start twisting my words.
Are you a lawyer by profession, perchance? If not, you'd sure make a good one:-) In German, we'd call one a "Rechtverdreher", one who contorts

the law!

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

You put several people inside a small, stinking cage, throw them some meat and now YOU all tell us how they, for that matter any one of us, would react under such

conditions! And you call me a hypocrite? Kindly don't make saints out of us either.

Apparently once more, my posts have either gone unread or misunderstood (not out of the question with this crowd), as I NEVER once would have had the temerity to even insinuate that many Poles aka Witold Pilecki, Leopold Socha (of the Lwow Underground Resistance) along with countless others were not the truest of true blue heroes who did indeed risk their lives in order that their Jewish fellow citizens might live.

I deeply resent this particular slander!

Classifieds / ANGLORAMA WARSZTATY JĘZYKOWE [6]

Most appreciated. What would be the compensation for sporadic tutoring, I being here in the States, rather than in Poland?

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

I have never denied that the kapos were pretty darned low, nor that the Judenraete were damned lame attempts at attempting to curry favor with Hitler.

Let us be clear though that kapos who did their Nazi masters' bidding were doing same in order to survive, albeit taking the easy way out for sure. They WEREN'T

kapos for personal or financial gain, and herein lies the crucial difference between those Polish collaborators and Jewish kapos.

Just to set the record straight here!

Classifieds / ANGLORAMA WARSZTATY JĘZYKOWE [6]

Curious as to whether you people do on-line or strictly classroom instruction. Workshops sounds interesting.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

You're right there, Milo, 'cuz there were far more gentiles to Jews in Poland, therefore mathematically there were more Jews requiring rescue than non-Jews!

It's another no-brainer, dude.

@B.B. Methinks I smell some language interference. Did you mean "..eine krasse Geschichte"? In English, "crass" is a false calque with the German "krass", and

means "bald" in the sense of "bare-faced" or "purposely shocking". You probably meant, instead of "a crass story", an "astounding story" etc.

Sorry to be the eternal pedant, but I know your goal is to improve your EnglishLOL

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

If you don't believe in fairness, Dirk, then you don't believe in life, at least according to Biblical precepts, that is Judeo-Christianity, before it was destroyed by

Protestantism and the latter's emphasis on (mandatory) earthly suffering in order to attain salvationLOL

Might as well turn in that membership card to the human race at the door and wait for a refund:-) You'll be waitin' a looooong time.

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

Poles did indeed sacrifice more than their share in helping their Jewish neighbors and fellow citizens, everybody! No one's denying that, certainly not yours truly.

However, for every Pilecki, Leopold Socha, along with those nameless heroes who resisted the Nazis and lost their lives because of it, there were plenty who sadly allowed their bigotry to interfere with their Christian values and turned in Jews as well.

There's always the other side of the coin, as I keep saying!

@Milo,

Ck. out Dr Janusz Korczak, Polish Jew, proud of his Polish and Jewish heritage, whose orphanage was not only limited to Jewish children in the least, and who

accompanied his little orphans to the gas chambers of Auschwitz. That's not a Polish hero, if not patriot???

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Guess I can concede to the former, Dirk.

I'm always more than willing to listen to reason, on rare occasions, even compromise a little:-)

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

Then you clearly misunderstood my posts!

I'm saying quite the opposite, if you've bothered to even read them. When Poland decides to come clean and admit that they weren't all angels, the poor downtrodden victims of Hitler's minions without exception, Israel will be glad to build those bridges and mend those fences. Lord knows, both countries have a heap of things that need mending, haven't they.

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

One or so billion faceless automatons! Perfect slaves for the capitalist fodder...GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
LOL

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

She's delusional, end of story! The shoe's clearly on the other foot, always was:-)

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Dirk,
Blaming ordinary tax payers for their maladies is merely a projection of the rankest excesses of Calvinism imaginable! The correct way to think, to speak, and to (re-)act is that when a deserving fellow citizen's having a rough go of things, empirically through no fault of their own, is to offer help when at all possible (and not necessarily financial), agree with that person that the situation is unfair and should be rectified, ameliorated what have you, and at least to appear concerned.

Any other tack is just FLAT WRONG!!!! You've obviously rejected the right script, for which your kind will pay one of these years, but dearly, I can promise you that.

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

If you mean the old automaton idea aka "robots" as Karel Capek predicted in the 1920's, you may well be right. Other than that, humanity will never die, unless it ceases to be in fact "humAN" rather than merely "humanOID"!

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

If you have no point, there can be no discussion. Tough to be mired in facts, easy to be deluded by myth:-)

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Again, you're grossly (with emphasis on the word "gross") oversimplifying the facts!

If the workforce is not provided with the tool to compete and any older structures are hereby capriciously deemed outmoded, the growing discontent as never before in history, spills out into the streets, endangering our workplaces, families, indeed our communities.

Such is relatively new to our society.

As I recently reminded a doctor whom I finally ended up suing (in a fit of macho pique!!), disease and poor health don't discriminate based on income or some gold-plated insurance policy, and so why should you?

It was at that point that he pushed a little button below his desk to alert someone to throw my wife and me out, until I overpowered him.....at long last.

Geez, the lengths we've got to go to nowadays, just to insure well-deserved comfort for our families without having to be Rockefeller.

FDR once wisely observed when our planet was teetering on the brink of insanity, that if only the already rich are satisfied, but the rest of America isn't, it's as though NOBODY is satisfied. And bless our little hearts, we believed him:-)

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

Actual stats are no doubt accurate. What's your point though?

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

I have, Milo, I have, and while at Yad Vashem, I was reminded of how unequal the distribution of gentiles to Jews in Poland proper!

Isolated examples apart, for instance Lodz which before the War was allegedly 3/4 Jewish, the Jews were so outnumbered, so isolated comparatively
(save for those ultra urban assimilated) that they weren't in an equal position to help Poles with weapons, supplies etc.

Try again, dude!

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

You simply want to paint a false picture of Jews as disloyal parasites living off Poland, the good graces of their saviors, as it were, righteous gentiles, who in your mind ought to have let what happened to the Jews come what may!

Well sir, EVERY group has their heroes and their ingrates. You merely wish to believe no Jews would help a gentile neighbor, that's the way you think.

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Well thank the Lord we finally agree! This calls for a (virtual) drink:-)

Sobieski, anyone?
LOL

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

No doubt, there were also instances, if unreported, of Jews helping their fellow gentile Poles.
It simply doesn't sound as good the other way round:-) Fuels the flame of the bigots, at home in
their illusionary prejudices, comfort food for many a sinning soul!

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

Economically developed for sure, although I maintain there's a different between being "cultured" aka "civilized" and enlightened! Germany is perhaps the perfect example of the latter:-)

From Gruenewald and Duerer to Kepler and Kirchner, Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Goethe, Schiller, Gauss, Koch, Liebig ad infinitum. However, nothing in their failed "Aufklaerung" prepared them for Hitler.

So much for the often false veneer of "civilization"; the Germans still behaved like barbarians, indeed proud barbarians!!

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

Their bigoted suspicions then were THEIR problem!

How about US W.A.S.P.s having the pure gall to question the patriotism of their Catholic brethren, accusing many as "friends of Rome" whose loyalties lay elsewhere except here at home, simply because they were Catholics?

Are you surprised J.F.K. was assassinated?

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

You know, NOT everybody who needs honest help are those whom so describe. You and certain others here see life only black or white, whereas I'm sure you're aware that life is composed of untold grey areas too. What about hard-working, yet socio-economically displaced workers straight from solid, decent-paying middle-class jobs, whose lives have been disrupted by over-foreignization combined with the classic American love of cheap labor? These people are American-born and patriotic to the bone, most of them. Through zero fault of their own, they find themselves in a position of which they doubtless never dreamed. They'd as soon spit on a "welfare check" as accept it, they'd sacrificed for their country, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, pay their taxes, know only the US, yet are penalized.

And your kind has the unmitigated audacity to lump these valiant souls together in the same morass as illegal, non-English proficient, often plain lazy foreigners, indeed frequently, aliens who certainly DO siphen off the public dole??!

My previous post still stands.

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

I'm certain there were Polish Jews who fought in the mighty resistance against the Nazis, side by side with their gentile neighbors.

History / Poland and Israel getting back on the right foot...maybe [132]

Next, you''ll be expecting the Poland should demand compensation from Israel. Well, you guys are crazy enough to think it:-)

Life / Would Poles prefer US or UK medical care? [112]

Ironside, you have to understand my post before you can respond to it:-)

Dirk, someone who appears as bereft of humanity as you claim to be, should deserve ZERO medical care....even in a life or death situation.

YOU go square things with your Maker. Or perhaps you weren't made, you were spawned by the Devil!

History / If Poles were antisemitic, would they ...? [240]

Let's understand the following, namely, that the Poles were no more "anti-Semitic" than most everyday citizens of arch-Catholic countries aka France, Italy, Spain, the former Baltic states, and Austria!

The Poles have gotten a worse rap due to bad publicity, but probably the Lithuanians, Latvians, and the waltzing, gemuetlich denizens of Johann Strauss country, couldn't have been much worse:-)