News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Why? We did it to you guys (Ukrainians) once already, we basicallly hijacked your entire elite leaving you with a bunch of unwashed peasants, even today you dont have a real national elite.


Rubbish, Ukraine is balancing on the brink of outright division since 1991 and i do wish Ukraine well.


Which is why Ukraine is so heavily divided and Crimea is practically a russian enclave?


The problem with you Ukrainians is that when faced with an unsavory reality you make up another one, Ukraine is unstable and divided but such observations are made by enemies of Ukraine, Ukrainians greatest heritage is basically what Poles built and developed but Lwów was always Ukrainian!!!

When you guys stop actively making things up to cover up your problems and inadequacies, then maybe you'll pull your sh*t together but for now your country is on the brink of collapse for years now.

History / Give back Lwow to Poland and Kaliningrad to Germany - is it possible? [198]


And Lwów, also since when are ethnic borders OK? By that logic quite a few countries are about to lose a bit of their territory, Germany including.


The problem here is that the population of Lwów and its polish subburbs was 2 times greater then the surrounding Ukrainians (2 million ethnic Poles and polonised minorities as opposed to approximately a million rural Ukrainians).

Also virtually all the towns in western Ukraine were predominantly polish so Lwów was not exactly an island.


Yeah be carefull with that one, thats not exactly true.


Thats completely false, Lwów didnt have a significant Ukrainian population for the past 400 years, at its peak 550 years ago it reached 48%, 500 years ago it was 23% and in 1939% it was 9%.

By comparison Poles constituted 72% of the population with 13% of the population being Jewish for a grand total of 85%, 6% more were Germans, Ormian, Tartars and Gypsies.

Then you get the whooping 9% of Ukrainians, for the past 400% at no point did the Ukrainian population exceed 15% and at no point did Polish majority fell below 60%

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Yeah maybe around 25% maybe, the region is inhabited by several milion people.


Ok i want you to say it mister, you would personally order loading ukrainian familes onto trucks and having them dumped in the field with all their personal belongings? "They should get it back?" you'd do to them the exact same thing that was done to us?


To starve? Freeze? What of their property? Dropping the epic immorality of that where will you get people to resettle the region from?

You'd need milions, literally like 2-3 millions people at least where will you get them from?


Neither is Poland having Lower Silesia, neither is Russia having Kaliningrad but all those shifts would mean destruction of milions of lives, i love Poland as much as i love my family or my sexbot of a girl but you're proposing we do to others exactly the same stuff that we experienced and you see nothing wrong in it because the place was ours half a century ago? Thats messed up Iron.


Ah now its clear, the difference between me and you is that i've been around, i've seen harsh measures, you're a bastard who lives in his comfy armchair and talks about harsh measures.

Our people were subject to "harsh measures" for over a f*cking century dude, have at least some decency not to propose we do the same to others, yes they're f*cking little fascists who live in what used to be our cities but they're ultimately people, they dont deserve cattle trains.


Maybe but i hope that if it ever comes to that it gets done by people like me not by people like you.

Apart from immorality of your proposal there's a backlash of making enemies out of a nation we have a chance to reconcile with and peace always beats war, especially when you're not the strongest kid on the block and even if you are, you wont always be.


Luckily Irons views are a minority here in Poland.


Yes Iron but thats our fault, Europe is a wolf pack, when among wolves be a wolf yourself, we as a people grew politically complacent so others take advantage of it, we need to look inwards and fix sh*t here before we regain full independence.

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Yeah its little and you're not one bit Polish but hey go for it, pride in your nations achievements is what i can relate to, we're not exactly your nation i think but who am i to tell you that:)))


Any land taken by force from a coherent political and social entity is stolen from them, your philosophy promotes theft, annexation, its exactly the kind of spineless vile justifications that allowed Poland to be partitioned or Israel to be created on Palestinian lands.

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]

I'm all for that but explain to me how exactly do you imagine taking over Ukraine.

Lets go out on the limb and say we strike a deal with Russia and topple ukrainian economy then move in to take whats historically ours.

What then? Do you actually kick people out of their homes? Do you shoot them? Because Ukrainians sure as hell would take to the streets in protest, you're postulating destroying milions of lives for the sake of historical sentiment, i'd love Lwów back, its f*cking ours, our grandfathers built it into an awesome city thats being changed into a dump but there's people who made their lives there for 3 generations now.

What are we, Jews? Since when did we historically steal peoples lands?

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Which still doesnt change the fact that they stole our land, might does not make right.


Thats because of that huge stick on your ass that interrupts the process of logical thinking, we = the Poles, not them Poles because im Polish too, it wasnt Martians, jellyfish cyborgs from planet Zog it was a bunch of guys connected to me by ethnicity, religion and nation so its a "we".


Distinct groups buddy, Europeans are not a distinct group and at the time discussed different european countries were essentially different planets.

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Insourmountable odds, courage and valor can only carry you as far.


Got that impression from any polish poster?


It does as far as Ukraine is concerned but its not beneficial in the long run and even if it was its still kicking people out of their homes on principle of them being historically ours, at that point i say f*ck the principles.


We = the Poles Me = Polish.

When i'm saying we i mean my nation that i'm a part of, i'm not asking or expecting credit for my ancestors deeds but they were Poles and so am i and because such people were Polish in the past im proud to be Polish today, get that huge stick out of your ass and stop trying to interpret everything your way.

News / Poland and Kresy being reunited? [162]


Who thinks of himself as a hero here?


The big problem is you not being Polish or not understand Poles, whenever truly deep national issues arose it was alway us, never me.

Note i dont agree with Ironside, Lwów is historically ours, Kresy are historically ours, they've been stolen from us by Russia and given to a poor barely formed nation of people who trample our heritage in jealousy of not having their own to match ours.

We Convex whether you like it or not are a proud nation, our blood and our people achieved as much if not more then our neighbours, we saved Europe on the battlefields of Vienna and Warsaw, we provided haven to the opressed for centuries, we built cities and schools where previously there has been nothing but forests and a bunch of ruthenian villagers.

We, the Poles. Its fully justified that an average Pole is proud, we're all part of something that bore great fruits for centuries and even when brought down refused to stay down, polish nation and polish history and being part of it is something to be proud of.

That said i dont agree with Ironside, taking peoples homes is not the way to do it, i hate Jews with my guts for their creation of Israel i couldnt stand my own people taking homes and lands, besides Ukraine is likely to collapse anyway so in the future its possible to achieve much peacefully.

History / POLISH MEMORIES OF CHERNOBYL...April 26th 1986 [32]

Actually recent polls show that 200% of Ukrainians have low IQ due to Chernobyl incident and being mixed with gypsies and negros.

News / Pole loses language discrimination case in Germany; Scandalous! [97]


There's none, not even officially.

Love / Need Advice: I have fallen in love with a Polish woman... [65]


First of all i imagine he's talking about Catholic divorce, thats rather hard as Catholics cannot divorce.

What can be done is to nullify the marriage but thats a b*tch as well.

Love / Need Advice: I have fallen in love with a Polish woman... [65]

Ambush her with a hatchet, cut her up pickle her and send the jars to her kids, then shoot a milk bottle in the face and run for cover when its alien girlfriend comes riding a jet propelled shoelace to exact bloody vengence.

I refuse to believe adults are as idiotic as OP seems to be, its a bloody provocation.

Lets consider the possibilites here:

A 40 something Brit meets a polish mother in crisis who apparently has choosing issues, after failing to find a solution said adult brit resolves that its because she's Polish and it will take a Pole to understand a Pole - in this case the author is an unbelievably epic retard who deserves to be shot on principle of being sh*tty at life.

Or its another old time poster making yet another faggy thread with an alt name.

Both are f*cking tragic options.

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]


I had to google mankini... Shelley you broke my f*cking mind!


Really? Not a provocation? K, you're hitting on an older girl who's uninterested, you're clumsy and inexperienced, unless she's married the boyfriend doesnt mean that much but you're clumsy and inexperienced so its a no-go option, whatever you'll do you'll do it poorly.

My advice, let it go.


Because giving a woman the f*ck of her life is all the way up there in her "to get" list, what the f*ck is "sharing the happiness with them" supposed to mean anyway?

Po polsku / Trzymajcie się ciepło! :) [25]

Wielka Torq szkoda, jednego sensownego mniej mam nadzieje że Ci się jednak z czasem odwidzi.

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]


Thats not a strange feeling at all, provided this is not a provocation you're an utterly inexperienced guy, women love to play games and you're not gamey at all, also she's older and she apparently has someone though im starting to think its another provocative thread.


My boner is first class, you dont even admit to yours!


Douse her in gasoline and set her on fire.
Chase her around with your dick in your hand.
Spank her boob and see if it jiggles.
Tie a gerbil to a stick with a shoestring and beat her up with a gerbil flail.
Slip her a rape pill.
Come to the meeting wearing a pedobear costume.

There's so many ways to make her day special.

History / POLISH MEMORIES OF CHERNOBYL...April 26th 1986 [32]

All Ukrainians born post Chernobyl are horribly mutated.

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]


Its called a boner.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]

Actually the laser rifle broke down (cheap chinese export) and he had to bludgeon all the 200 of them ruskies!

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


My grandfathers words:

1920 i killed 200 bolsheviks with my laser rifle !

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]

The scary bit about all you write is that you seriously sincerely believe it, i really hope this is some sort of a provocation, for your sake.


Yeah its all fairies and sh*t but you still got shot down, not the first time i bet and not the last time either.

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]


You like her ass and want to f*ck her till you break the bed, dont act like a total pvssy nothing wrong with that! I hate giving out advice but here's one for you, women love confidence, you dont even have to be confident, all it takes is pretend you are and it'll carry you miles and miles.

Drop the fairy giggling touchy feely bullsh*t, women will tell you all kinds of tall tales but what they all love, without exception is a confident guy, you see a girl you like you go for the gold you dont dance around crossing eyes and smiling.


Personally i think he's a 20 year old virgin who's just going to blow the f*ck out of the situation even if he does have a chance, any guy who goes into a giggling fit over tits he fancies is either a total pvssy or never had a girlfriend but hey lets be extremely optimistic here.


They're women, you're trying to date them or write a psychological treaty about them? You have to understand how to please them and how to be attractive for them and thats it, you dont have to undestand them.


No you're out to hold hands and discuss literature, of course you're out to f*ck her!

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]


Newsflash for you, women love confident men, be f*cking confident, go up to her and ask her out thats it.

"Hey would you like to grab a coffe after work?"

Dont be a girlfriend with a penis attempting friendship with a girl you want to f*ck is suicidal, it makes asking her out later much more difficult, also dont be a pvssy, its nice that you're in touch with your emotions and sh*t but blushing like a virgin and giggling doesnt get her into your bed anytime sooner.

She's not a "polish girl" she's a female, they're uncomplicated creatures, go up to her and ask her out, if you manage not to cum all over yourself or giggle like a crackwh0re she's prolly gonna agree, once she's on that coffee/dinner with you work your magic and see if it sparks.


Harsh love is good love!:D

Ps. Uśmiech if you manage to hook up with her update whether she was a good f*ck, you're selling her as if she's the 8th wonder.

Love / Need help and assistance to ask polish girl out [48]

Beat her up.

Love / India guy Polish girl [57]


There's several steps to successfull relationship here.

1. Take pictures of her from hiding.
2. Cover your basement walls, ceiling and floor with said pictures.
3. Slip her a rape pill.
4. When she wakes up in your basement tell her how much you love her and show the pics as proof.

Slow down captain creepy, its nice to be excited but if she's just friendly and cheerfull you'll mess up major time.

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


Poland was partitioned because it was weakened by the ineffective rule of the saxon dynasties, you're still an uneducated moron who needs to shut up and learn his country history.


The neighbours never "waltzed" we fought a bitter war and only the betreyal of our king put an end to it, again you f*cking moron learn history before attempting to issue any sort of a opinion.

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


No argument there but 1945 was just a year.


During the golden age of the city both Poles and Germans were big on Dutch architects so thats possible.


Wrocław yes, Gdańsk no, Gdańsk was a direct political and administrative subordinate of Poland for most of its history.

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


Most intelligentsia in pre WW1 and interwar Ukraine was Polish with a smaller percentage of Jews and Germans, Ukrainian participation in the educated elite was neglible, Ukrainians as an ethnicity occupied the lower echelons of society, your peoples elite could be counted in thousands, not even tens of thousands.


Who?!


Salt mines, silver mines, wood, tar, cattle, agricultural exports while having a huge share of the overall exports were not the financial powerhouse of Poland, sorry buddy but polish economy was not riding on the backs of peasants:)))


So tell me Nathan why did our nobility willingly relinquished their status in the may constitution i they were such bastards?

Also for lazy bastards they won a lot of wars, wars are hard work, winning them even harder.


Rubbish, its a complete utter ruin, you turned a city which was called "small Paris" across Europe and changed it into a dillapidated dump.

You're so afraid of Lwóws polish history your people willingly devastate and destroy all the old polish architecture, sculptures of great Poles etc, at least when we took over Wrocław we didnt vandalise anything to do with its german past but then again we Poles have a 1000 years of history to fall back on, you have what? One semi-succesfull rebellion nearly four centuries ago, no culture, no heritage, no civilisation, no elites.

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


Given that more then 90% of public and historical buildings, all of the roads, sewage system were built or commisioned by Poles and 550 years of its 650~ years the city had a 60-70% (depending on the period) polish majority its a 100% polish city.

It was built by Ruthenians but it was made into one of the greatest cities of central Europe by Poles, its not the case of cities like Gdańsk where you can't pinpoint who's city exactly it is, Lwów is historically as polish as Kraków or Warsaw.


Yes but its ruling elite was composed almost exclusively by Poles, even under the Habsburg rule all mayors of Lwów were Poles, Lwów didnt have a single ukrainian mayor for more then half a millenium, it had four Germans, two Jews, a Lithuanian and more then fourty Poles.


Poles moved in there when ruthenian people were nothing short of warring tribals, Poland was the only statehood this backwards region knew for centuries.

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


Your nation (Ukrainians) never had any elite whatsoever, you still dont, your people are barely even a nation and all you have to fall back in your weak poverty stricken state is petty fascism and saber rattling.

Even after Poland fell from power its still richer, safer, has more recognition and manages to achieve more and faster then your third world of a country Nathan, once pig herders always pig herders.

By the way did you repair that awfull street in the centre of Lwów? It really hurts to see an old polish city so dillapidated, you guys should respect our property, its only temporarily in your hands you know! :)

History / Polish aristocrats - would be better off if we had Polish magnate families? [69]


The Golden Freedom had only one con and that was the infamous "Liberum Veto" however vetoing things was rare and even rarer was it being taken into account, in theory any noble could veto, in practice it was done rarely since it often meant death sentence after the Sejm and if it was just any noble he'd likely be ignored anyway.

Veto breaking off each Sejm is just another communist myth that stuck i'm afriad.


See above, in theory any noble could block it, in practice he could not.


Every countrys political elite had its share of traitors of the same magnitude, polish nobility however distinguished itself in that it had much more patriots, in fact polish nobles were the only ones who willingly gave away their priveliges in favor of other classes in the constitution.


Not a single king in polish history was bought, not one.


That must be why in between 1654-67 (thats 13 years) Poland maintained a standing army of 50.000 bolstered by 10.000 mercenaries and 10.000 Lithuanians, because nobles vehemently opposed regular taxes!

Also polish armies were much much more expensive then Western ones due to being 80% cavalry so Poland maintains an army that'd cost as much as 100.000+ equivalent in Austria or France.

Yes plenty of nobles did stray from ideal citizens but the notion that Poland fell because of its nobles is nothing but a communist myth.

Polish nobility was for a very very long time the most enlightened, well educated and patriotic in Europe, its martial skills were for centuries the best in the world, the polish noble not only regularly defeated the best of Europe in defence of Poland but didnt hesitate to pay in money or blood.

Even when Poland fell from grace and the nation with it it was the nobles who revived the nations spirit, the nobles who came up with constitution and begun a work of healing and restoring the country that was un-f*cking-paralelled in the world.

In no country in the world outside Poland did nobility just get up off its arse and decided "this country is going down if we dont change, lets surrender our priveliged position and rebuild our country to our former glory together with citizens and peasants as equals."

That happened only in Poland, other countries needed another century to come up with something like that so polish nobility despite all its flaws is a thing to be proud of rather then spit at.