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Joined: 19 Nov 2007 / Female ♀
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From: USA, Orange
Speaks Polish?: No
Interests: Opera, Art Galleries, walking on beaches, playing with my cousins

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JuliePotocka   
18 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

I was using my family to SHOW as an example, that EVERYONE'S family pretty much did the same thing. Many people died, and I do feel that a wholesale extermination went on against the Polish people for decades, while Poland was plundered for her resources. I also feel Poland better safeguard her forests, and that wood farming needs to be set up properly, so we will always have beautiful, untouched forests!

So - since when does what I say, mean anything about where the money comes from? Gee, let's see...in America, that would mean the taxes gathered pay for it, ergo your point is that the Polish tax payers would, too, NO DUH!!

I already STATED what deals they have lined up, I cannot speak for the government itself.

I also think perhaps age comes into this: if you are a teenager, you don't care so much, want to go forward with your life. If you're 30+, it's personal, you saw what it did to your family members, and how miserably they DIED, always wondering where the bodies are, so we can give them a proper burial, etc.!

NEVER FORGET.
JuliePotocka   
17 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Love your sarcasm, dear. ;)

Well, so there's a difference between the Jews, and the Roman Catholics, in wanting their property back, people are saying? Am I defined by my religion?

I simply wish for the property that was forcibly seized by the Nazis, and then kept by the Communist Govt. and Govt., until NOW.

Celinski pointed out rather eloquently much how I feel; my family was skootched about, in the Eastern part of Poland.

Do I have a different set of rights, than the Jews? I don't think so.
Now perhaps my plans are different, because I wish to help the local economy in Poland, and live there half the year.

*I did try to pull up the link, but it's nonexistent - can someone revive it, or was it fake?

I feel that all people should be treated with respect, and if they are in the same boat as me, then they deserve to be treated the same; if the property was stolen, like it was from my family, then the Government has stated that they'd give a percentage of the value, or give it back. I'd then be liable for double taxation, between Poland and the USA, over a certain amount.

So, as far as I can see, the people occupying the homes would either stay, or have the opportunity to move to another location - with the local government working with both parties, to ensure things are fine for both sides.

My auntie was prejudiced, so was my great cousin, Alka. I just let them jibber-jabber, and go, "Uh-huh, uh-huh, whatever" because I felt the prejudism would die with them. I'm in shock and horrified, because these people were NEIGHBORS!! My uncles DIED to save many...one was caught with 23 Jews, and was shot on the spot. Another was shot in Katyn.

Another was shot during the Bolshevik Revolution, simply because the Russian soldiers felt like it, and torturing the horses. and who knows how many women they raped, as the soldiers plundered. The Russians 'apologized' for shooting him, but yeah - you can't revive him.

NEVER AGAIN, will we let prejudism define us, at least me. That is why we have left 'Auschwitz' as a memorial, correct?

But then, on the Internet, it's much easier to let insults fly, because you aren't face to face with someone...makes me ponder.

Just because your skin color or religion isn't the same as me, doesn't mean I won't treat you the same. I treat everyone with respect, and politeness. They earn my disrespect, by what they do to others, and me, and I don't mean rumors.

But then, one of my best friends in the Midwest was an Orthodox Jew, with one of her parents showing the number tattoos. Out here in S. California, I walk past Muslims, Jews, Orthodox Jews, Roman Catholics, Protestants. When 9/11 happened, we pulled together ever so tightly, swearing to NOT let what happened during WW2 happen again! We even protected the Sikhs, who wore 'Angels' baseball caps instead of turbans. Many of the working Muslim women have become rather skilled at camouflaging their head covering, with baseball caps and little hat coverings - hoodies are perfect. I say hello to one, who's very shy, and is bold enough to wear her head covering to work. We are a community, we must help each other!

Oh, forgot - another one of my friend's parents were in a Japanese/American Internment Camp. His dad was in the infamous Japanese/American fighting group, with high fatalities, to prove their Loyalty to America, and freedom.

So, yes - I feel the Jewish families have the same rights as I do, in reclaiming my family properties.

My family, and OTHER families died, sacrificing themselves, to help the Jews. I don't think they meant for us to give them a different set of rules, in the future when we are reclaiming property.
JuliePotocka   
17 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Celinski is correct, as far as I'm concerned. My family is Roman Catholic, and many of my family members were FORCIBLY tossed out of their homes by the Nazis, so the Nazis had a nice, comfy place to sleep, and control Poland.

Many of my family members died in Auschwitz, and they were Roman Catholic! I have lists, and some died saving Jews from the Nazis, as it was a death penalty to do so.

The Nazis wanted to destroy the Polish - they didn't care about us at all! We were there, simply to feed their propaganda machine.

Unfortunately, I don't see any information on this coming from any reputable paper. And if there were 10,000 people coming to reclaim land, perhaps it's counting everyone who's filing paperwork before the deadline - not just one group.

I detest racism, at any level. Grew up with it, thought it was over for most of the world. Seeing it on this forum makes me want to puke.
JuliePotocka   
14 Feb 2008
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

Ah, I don't know exactly what happened...all the information isn't what I have read.

That last quote, shows to me that this is much disgusting thought by John Rose; I'd rather the children be alive, no matter what country.

I find this uncomfortable, to really talk about. Why? One book, one night is NOT enough information to inhale, and make a judgement! Isn't 'Zionist' now racist?

People are people.

I wonder is, why they didn't try and claim the properties 10 years ago?
JuliePotocka   
4 Dec 2007
News / 10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND! [628]

So - I am then, to receive back the 300 cities and villages that my Great Grandfather Szczesny Potocki owned, lol?

That would be a stretch. I have made a few attempts to regain properties, but people wanted money off of me, and smelled of a scam, over the last 12 years. I did write to the President of Poland - BUT of course, he lives in one of my family's castles, so why would I expect him to be honest with me??

My family was driven out during the wars, and many died, shot even on the steps of their homes. Because my greatgrandfather stayed a Polish citizen, I am entitled to a dual citizenship; but, would I have to pay dual taxes? Things that make you go hmm.

- Julie Potocka