Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


So a group religious people teach that their elected leader is always right when he speaks about their holy book...okay then.


You state that last part as though it's a fact when it's nothing more than an opinion while conveniently leaving out political, economic and a lack of scientific understanding influences shaping Catholic (and many other religions') teachings.

I'm not saying it's all garbage because I don't know but at least be honest in how you choose to portray what and how Catholicism came to be. Y'know, just to be consistent with what it is you supposedly believe in.

Life / My take on Poland - My Top 10 [31]


100% True.


I honestly believe they don't want to pay the electricity costs during the day and turn the refrigeration units on at night...I can't think of any other scenario:/

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


While most of your post is true, this statement is false. There are exceptional later-life converts.


Very probably true but most people here don't seem to oppose crucifixes on walls however Catholic or not they really are, so?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


Who has thus far decided what is or isn't a mortal sin?
People.
I have never heard or read of any documented accounts of any infinitely-knowing, eternal being stating anything for the record. Everything has been written by people based on hearsay from thousands upon thousands of years old.

Enjoy the following page (it offers great perspective) and then seriously ask yourself if there is a creator and if it really cares if people get married before they get down for some.

htwins.net/scale2

^that isn't to say I'm against marriage by any stretch but trying to tell others their soul is in jeopardy because of it is quite simply saying things you're not qualified to say. In fact, it stands to reason that any such claims by people should be dismissed unless there is evidence to support their message being from divinity: )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


He doesn't seem to be, does he?


Whatever you want to believe there sport, but if you really believe in all your pf posts, you've never once criticized the moral direction or ethics of church leaders in Poland then I'll let you believe that.


It sounds like you've bought more than a few bridges in your time: )

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


I'm not going to go through all your posts on this forum just to prove a point.


You and I both know that in Poland this is what is really important to the clergy and "provide for the needs of the Church" translates to "give the clergy money to keep living their lavish lifestyle."

This isn't news to anyone though, is it? The same is true for nearly every organized religion -the leaders are usually the most corrupt and the biggest hypocrites.

You could just as easily start a thread entitled "Water is also wet in Poland."


I should have phrased that better to help you understand.
You told me my understand of what the RCC in Poland requires of its members to do is spotty (or something to that effect). I'm asking you to clarify that, requires of its members to do what? e.g. to get to heaven? to find Christ? to do what?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


Required by the RCC to do what?

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]


I'm sure you've done it some where and may even have been right in doing so. My point is that you seem content to attack other groups but never any group you identify with.


Required by whom? Required in what circumstances? Jesus H. Christ boy, make yourself clear!

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

I hate to reference the guy but Harry actually appears to know his Polish beers pretty well. Wait for him to chime in on this thread.

Life / The changing RCC habits of Poles [70]

I wonder how Harry would respond to a thread centered around the moral hypocrisy of Jews.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


Just because a small percentage of people are vocal about an issue, it does not mean their feelings aren't representative of the majority. Go into people's homes and you see a lot of crosses on a lot of walls. There are more people who are willing to fight to keep the things up than there are people who will fight to take the things down. That's just how it is here.


I disagree.


Oh yes, because abusive regimes with no religious attachments haven't churned out any destruction on society. *sarcasm off*

Poles are mostly Catholic whether or not you admit this changes nothing. They're not hurting anyone with putting crosses on walls so why are you so bothered by it?

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

According to some brewers,Tyskie isn't brewed long enough to actually be beer. I've been told flavouring is added to compensate.
It used to be pretty good circa 2002 but times have changed.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


You've misunderstood the reference to this figure a bit. Look at the context as to what I was replying to.


So let's stop crying about it shall we;)?
It's obvious the majority of people here want the things on their walls for whatever reason. Live and let live man.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


Social skills?
Morality or reasoning? Perhaps. But social skills? No.
That being the case even kindergarten level math should tell you 9-1 odds and all other factors being equal or against you, ought to be respected to a large degree.

Crosses on the wall aren't hurting you or me. I'm not the religious type and loathe much of the hypocrisy of the PCC but that's what people here seem to prefer (brainwashed or not). I'm not going to get in their way and I make sure they don't get in mine. It's a bit of symbolism that reflects what Polish society is all about, for better or worse. So what's the big deal?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


You don't go p*ssing off the majority by doing what you suggested and still keep your teeth. You don't have to respect traditions here but there's no reason to outwardly disrespect their traditions, is there?

Yes, you know your sh*t and do an admirable job of getting your facts together (for the most part) but as one poster pointed out, your thinking is so far to the left that it obscures what is otherwise a fairly good head with decent perspective.

The majority of people here whether you, I or anyone else likes it, identify with being Catholic. Why is this so hard for you to mentally digest? It's like every other week you go and try to prove otherwise.

Don't worry, people are becoming less and less devout every day and pretty soon they'll simply fall prey to something else that's even worse of an influence than the RCC and then you can dance a jig at how sh*tastic this place will have become. Feel better?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


See that's what I mean, it seems the word country is being misused in place of society and that might be where a certain bit of disagreement is stemming from.


Are you a bee keeper by any chance?

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Okay, it seems if you guys could come to an understanding as to what a country actually is or isn't, you might come to an agreement of sorts.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]


nothing


The vast majority of society seems to disagree with you. Deal with it.


I'll take your word for it.

News / Polish police chief removes crosses [250]

Hey Delph and Harry; what exactly are you two arguing?
Are you arguing Poland isn't made up of a society that identifies itself as being Catholic or that officially this is a secular country or that you're against crosses in public?

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]


I don't consider numbers released in 2007/08 (likely obtained and compiled earlier) up-to-date in August of 2013. The fact there isn't more recent data doesn't change that.


I question any methodology on principal alone: )

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

^That information is from 5-6 years old from when it was released (if I've read things correctly).
I appreciate you've gone through the trouble to provide something like evidence to shed light on the discussion but I think you would agree that based on the changes we see in western society, up-to-date information is important. Another thing that is important with any study is how the information that led to conclusions was gathered. It really makes or breaks things for me.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

^ That is based on a completely warped understanding of what being "overweight" actually means.
Among Americans, Canadians, The English and Australians, "chubby" has now become the average and considered normal.

Life / Why Polish people are fat ? [81]

I dunno but the pace at which this society has gone from lithe to portly has been astounding.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

Sorry Wlodzi, I thought one of your responses was to me but I read you wrong.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

Dude, I don't care too much about your analysis of my language. If you can wrap your brain around the fact that I hold the opinion that German is easier for most English speakers than Polish then great. If not then, well, whatever.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

Wlodzimierz
Say what you like, I'm sure your understanding of German and Polish are better than mine. That being said, I would consider a person close to mentally retarded (or their teacher is inept) if they were a native speaker of English and had trouble getting the basics of German down. Where the basics lead a person is another matter but I stand by this statement: for a Native speaker of English with no functional ability in either language, German is far easier to catch onto than Polish.

Study / Which language to learn in my university course? Polish Or German? [35]

If you're going to learn a language specifically for coming to Poland then the choice is clear. Good luck.
If you're going to learn a language to make use of it for years to come outside of Poland then study German. It's waaaaaaaaaaaay easier for most people coming from English. The rhythm is comparable (depending on dialect) and the pronunciation is easy.

UK, Ireland / No Welfare in UK unless You are Polish [31]

So, by "benefits" do you mean benefits in the UK or in Poland? The reason I ask is because the term "benefits" is, in my experience associated with the UK system. I don't often hear that term associated with the Polish system.

If you do mean benefits in Poland then I'm curious why you'd say that someone who has contributed into a system for about 2 decades deserves less than the average contributor. I'm not defending him but I'm curious as to your logic.

UK, Ireland / No Welfare in UK unless You are Polish [31]

You do make me laugh, I'll give you that: )

I was not comparing the average Pole in the UK to a this guy working in Poland.
The comment I had replied to made no mention to the average Pole in the UK, only the average Pole. Hence my question.
You've evaded my other question consistently enough to suggest you know the answer.

I'm not defending Joe, so you can stop wasting your energy trying to construct an argument only you want a part of.

UK, Ireland / No Welfare in UK unless You are Polish [31]

I'll ask you one more time, does the average Pole live in the UK and contribute to the system there?
I say the average Pole doesn't live in the UK and therefore isn't more entitled to benefits in the UK than the fellow in question. If you want to disagree then go right ahead but barring any groundbreaking explanation on the point of benefits and the intended purpose of them, I think that's just plain stupid.

I don't see the relevance of your last question.


Hence my question and thus warszawski's attempts to be the swinging dick in an argument he's trying desperately to construct.