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Lukasz   
16 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Umm...Poland had Nazis before WWII???

There was pary like this in Poland . Durring WWII they were fighting agains Germans but they weren't cooperating with other anti German groups. So maybe ultra nationalists is better term.
Lukasz   
16 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

It was prison for commies Nazis and other criminals. The fact that 20 of them died means nothing for me. Why you put word Jews. It wasn't prison for Jews majority of prisoners were Poles and the fact that some were Jews means nothing there were Polish criminals and Jewish. Yes I am proud that Poland holded commies and nazis before WWII in prisons. IMO Germans or Russians could do the same and XX century would be much better for world.

don't you agree? imagine ourself Hitler and Stalin in prisons like in Poland. Ehhh

I am proud of it.

17 priosners died ... hmmm when we look what Nazis had done in Europe or Commies it doesn't look bad.

again I am proud.

Ok I see that we started to talk about Poles against Jews and Jews against Poles.

So lets see:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labor_Union

Poland and Lithuania became independent in 1918, and the Bund continued to operate in these countries, particularly in the heavily Jewish towns of West Belarus that became part of Poland [...]

This Jews were not commies (socialists it is little difference) they were with us. Fighting agains Nazis and later Commies. We love this Jews. Good Polish citizens.
Lukasz   
16 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Really? what was it called, silly old me, there was I was thinking that Poland was "occupied" does that mean that there was no France or Holland?

if you talk about gegraphy there will be always place like Poland. the same as Chechnya. The problem is that Poles were not runing this camps. as to your link it is nteresting that Auschwitz was build to kill Poles later it stared to kill Jews.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Ghetto_Police

Members of the Judendienstordnung did not have official uniforms (having just an armband) and were not allowed to carry guns. They were used by the Germans primarily for securing the deportation of other Jews to the concentration camps.

The Jewish Order Service was also active in some of the Nazi concentration camps.

The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians."

Jewish concentration camps ? Of course not, but using harrys logic ;)

Yes and Hitler also personally ordered the construction of the pre-war Polish concentration camp. Er, no, it was actually Stalin who personally ordered the construction of the pre-war Polish concentration camp.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bereza_Kartuska_detention_camp

"Place of Isolation at Bereza Kartuska") was a Polish prison for political prisoners that was operated in 1934-39 at Bereza Kartuska in the former Polesie Voivodeship (today in Belarus, near the city of Brest).

Some 16,000 persons passed through Bereza Kartuska over the period of its operation. These included members of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), Polish Communist Party (KPP) and National Radical Camp (ONR)

prison for nazis and commies.

Over the five years of the prison's operation, the total number of associated deaths is variously given as between 17 and 20

IT WAS PRISON for people who invaded Poland Nazis and Commies. Yes pre war Poland was strongly anti Nazi and anti Commie. Beautiful free Poland. :)

I am proud of it.
Lukasz   
15 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

ss

look at this photo. Jewish Police in nazi occupied Poland and German soldier.

Do you think that Jews are repsonsible for Holocaust ?

Jewish Nazi collaborators ... of course I provoke you.

as you admited Jews feared more their own police than Germans

Jews were not 100% pure and innocent

once again some pictures with Jewish nazi collaborators

pol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Ghetto_Police

The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians."

fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/gallery/11548.htm

The Ordenienst, or Jewish police in Westerbork, were universally detested by camp inmates for their cruelty and role in collaborating with the Nazis.

of course it is all history

Harry think once again before you start to talk BS.
Lukasz   
15 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

What you are still refusing to recognise Carol is that Poles ran concentration camps in Poland under the orders of the government of Poland both during and after WWII.

you are insane. You know why UNESCO changed name of this camps.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_death_camp

Concerns about the use of the term led the Polish government to request that UNESCO change the official name of Auschwitz from "Auschwitz Concentration Camp" to "former Nazi German concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau."[2] to make it clear that the concentration camp was operated by Germans, not Poles. On 28 June 2007 at its meeting in Christchurch, New Zealand, the World Heritage Committtee of UNESCO changed the name of the camp to "Auschwitz Birkenau. German Nazi Concentration and Extermination Camp (1940-1945)."[3][4] Previously, some media, including Der Spiegel in Germany, had called the camp "Polish".

you know that and you repeat you BS ! after talking about no Polish vicitms later about 1 mln polish vicitms fortunatly you started to talk about 2 mln catholic vicitms ... LOL

Harry do you think that Jews are wrong ? or UNESCO ?

after WWII Poles were killed in camps with much different character. and it was reslut of being sold for RUSSIANS.

Russian soldiers were imposing by brutal force new system in Poland. and yes some people used opportunity and joned them. What is interesting a lot of non-christians decided to join commies.

as to being liar read this link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
Lukasz   
15 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

At least in part because the Nazis wouldn't let them. You want to swap stories about how certain elements of the Polish resistance organised hunting missions to kill and/or capture Jews hiding in the forests?

yes it is story like with Poland being German ally durring WWII

Even the picture you yourself post shows that to be a lie. Have a real close look at the wikipedia page you took it from. Notice the bit about a million more Poles fighting for the Nazis than dying in the war from German action.

as to native Germans living in Poland ... they are not considered Polish in this stats and in this link you can read about that they are added to German casulties.

the lowest estimation is 2,440,000 Polish catholic civilians killed and 3 mln Polish Jews and Polish 160 000 soldiers. In different articles we have 3 mln catholics killed in our country.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Of course it ia about casulties in years 1939-1945 ... what about 1945-1954 ?

as to 12 jews in Warsaw. They print Jewish newspapers for Catholics ?

it is joke.
Lukasz   
14 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Kaczysnki is not anti-semit

prezydent.pl/x.download?id=17526044

Some Jews were commies not all ... I wanted to show some facts related to topic we discusse here.
"Poland's Concentration Camp"???

That would be the Polish communist regime, correct?

It was Moscov puppet regime supported by Russian soldiers and some Polish commies (both with Jewish and native Polish origin) this regime was introduced by brutal force with help of Soviet army, there was no chances to be free. Look what happened in Czechoslovakia or Hungary ...

Seeing as how there were only 20 Jews alive in Warsaw after the Nazis left, they might not be the best people to ask.

I gave you links and names. you know where to look for informations.
Lukasz   
14 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Żegota

During the war, Żegota was the only underground organization that was run jointly by Jews and Polish non-Jews from a wide range of political movements. Politically, the organization was formed by Polish and Jewish underground political parties.

'Sorry' would be too much to ask for. I'd settle for Poles not painting themselves as 100% pure innocent victims who were betrayed by the entire world.

how Poland look when we compare it to France ? or Hungary ? or other German occupied countries. anit semits were everywhere but it seems that Jews had some reasons when settled in Poland. and organisation Zegota shows that they were right.

I consider Poland as the most pure innocent nation durring WWII.

after WWII times were very hard and as you know hundrets thousends Polish citizens were killed. Small amout of Jews were killed as well but it is tinny minority when we compare it to catholic victims of commie regime. As I said before go to Jews in Warszawa and as them about reality after WWII before you start to talk silly things here.

And it is fact that after WWII some people had reason to find why Poles were sold for Soviets.
Lukasz   
14 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

So for the record your position is that every single Pole who worked in concentration camps from 1945 to 1956 was only doing so because she/he would have been shot for refusing.

you have my links with INTERVIEWS with Jews (threre are their names you can contact them) when they talk about some Jews who participated in what happened in communist Poland (not only in Soviet union) why you stick to your version.

You admited fact that there was Jewish Police in German occupied Poland who collaborted with Germans (to survive) Why don't you talk about Jewish nation as about villains.

that is the problem, there was no Poles who operated nazi German death camps in 1939-1944

After the war communists created their camps ... and the fact is that some Polish citizens with Jewish origin were operating them (not only Jews). This camps were political camps. For people who didn't agree with new system or for some POWs. And you have data you have names you are in Poland you have address of Jewish newspapers in Warsaw you have translators ... and you still talk the same.

During WWII 6mln people were killed in Poland 3 mln Jews and 3mln Catholics.

Ask Jews for word "sorry" for Jewish police in Poland. it is the same as you come here and talk about Poles who did ... and you want us to be sorry.

WW Deaths

how many Jews lived in Poland before the WWII ? 3 mln ? what about the rest ?
Lukasz   
7 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

z_dariusz is right. Last time Gypsies (about 50 000 in Poland) protested to not say that crime was commited by Polish citizen with Gypsy origin. In Polish terms nations means rather ethinc group. as to Jewish Pole and Polish Jew. It is exactly as Dariusz pointed it out.

Polish Jew means - I feel that Jews are nation and/or realigous group and I have Polish citizenship or I was born in this country.

Jewish Pole - I feel that I am Jew by my religion or origin when it comes to feeling towards Poland I feel Pole not Jew.
Lukasz   
3 May 2008
UK, Ireland / Poles leave Britain to return to Poland [89]

new article Financial Times

ft.onet.pl/0,9440,half_of_east_europe_migrants_go_home,artykul_ ft.html

Half the central and eastern European nationals who came to work in Britain in the four years since EU enlargement have returned home, according to new research suggesting that fears of an ever-expanding migrant population are unfounded.

Lukasz   
27 Apr 2008
News / Poland's Vietnamese: A tough transition but they're surviving [31]

What ?

I think it is time for poem

"Vietnamise princess"

She was pure
But not white

She was soft
Like the night

Love is one
And
I know
That here will be

Our home

£ukasz

:)

It is interesting how different their life looks like in different countries. conrast between Poland/France and Germany is noticeable.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Vietnamese
Lukasz   
25 Apr 2008
Work / Salary expectations in Poland [373]

I think that you are going to get about 4 000 after taxes (you need to check it).

If you are selfemployed tax will be lower (flat 19%)

as to costs of living in Poland there is a lot of discussions about it on PF.

£ódz isn't expenisve city.
Lukasz   
25 Apr 2008
Work / Salary expectations in Poland [373]

it is ok to have comfortable life ... read topics about native english teachers with salary about 4 000 zloys and how do they live in Poland ...
Lukasz   
23 Apr 2008
Travel / Stag Parties in Kraków [119]

The worry that I have is how we will get on in Krakow and how many places wont let us in.

exactly

I saw one tosser doing naked star jumps while his mates cheered him on from the bar...

you are bigot :) English people do the same in center of London ...
Lukasz   
23 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

In cities like Warszawa or £ódz a lot of them were assimilated.

In small towns in eastern Poland there were places where they were in majority so they were living their life without knowledge about other nations in our country.

It is good realtionships between our nations changes so quick. I think still some Americans with both Polish and Jewish origin have some problems with it.

It is good that Israelis and Polish people don't have this problem. :-)

read about Polish year in Israel.

ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3530512,00.html

sss

Poles and Jews are like old mariage, we argue we scream but at the end we love each other. :)
Lukasz   
23 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

The Jews in Germany to the contrary were totally assimilated...not many famous scientists from polish shtetls either...why is that?

and you decided to kill them :(

And didn't they live mostly in their little shtetls without much contact to the Poles...with their own language, their own schools, their own professions, their own clothes? Not very assimilated I would say.

because there was no pressure on assimilation. There was a lot of Jews who later were good Poles ... now we have more and more Polish people who started to talk about their roots :)

I think it is so beautiful.

Not to forget the regular pogroms!

Pogroms in western Europe was main reason why they have moved to Poland.
Lukasz   
23 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

Bratwurst Boy

Germans pointing at Poles ? (using your neo nazi websites)

commonwealth.pl

it was beautiful country before your Nazi German invasion. of course not everything was perfect. Now we want to achieve what you Germans and later Russians have destroyed.

jewishfestival.pl/index.php?lang=e

it is Kraków (during this festival)

independent.pl/pliki/4612c26ea4bef5fc0bd2c796957db515

Why do you think there was the bigest european Jewish society in Poland before WWII ? Second after USA in all over the world.
Lukasz   
23 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

It is noticable that some Americans don't understand political climate in Poland. When it comes to Polish-Jewish realtionship ;)

I think they should read main newspapers

miasta.gazeta.pl/warszawa/1,34889,5138505.html

Priceless , very moving document Jolanta Dylewska brings out the reality of forgetting Polish - Jewish towns before the Holocaust

The title " Po-lin " is derived from the beautiful medieval legend. Jews fled from Western Europe and the pogroms against the plague . On the Polish lands heard the voice of God: " Po-lin " , which means : "Here rest ." They were , and our country recognized for his . then on Poland in Hebrew is called just the name Po-lin .

The film shows how she looked Jewish everyday life in towns such as , among others, Sejny , Kurow , Bałuty , Kałuszyn , Nowogródek . And although the reality being played on the screen hovers the specter of the Holocaust , to feel that the story is a documentary directed towards life. It has no elegiac tone is rather delight in the intensity of that world . You can almost feel his smell , when Mendel sells at the market greasy herrings , Sura spreads hot bagels , and Friday morning a woman crimp the dough on the Sabbath.

or read about some cooperation between Israel and Poland ...

I am not saying it is good or bad I just think that Poland went in different direction and we are in different reallity than some pepople think...

project of Shalom tower in Warszawa (Warszawa Jews want to build it)

Jewish culture festival Kraków: (website in English)

jewishfestival.pl/index.php?lang=e
Lukasz   
21 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

The Republic of Both Nations.

After 3rd May constitution it was no longer "The Republic of Both Nations" it was just "Republic of Poland" and Lithuanians voted for it in their local parlaments. What is interesting last time they started to celebrate anniversary of 3rd may constitution.

commonwealth

great site you can make separate thread form this in history section. :)))
Lukasz   
21 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

MareGaea

I think you shouldn't use different nick names. ;-)

Firstly, In Gdańsk there is almoust no Jews. Because of history of this town (look on map form 1938) and read history of Gdansk Jews. So if somebody didn't go to religion lessons he was propably kid of communists officers (they didn't go to church) or simple atheists/orthodox... In 1970s - 1980s smashing majority of Polish communists were native Poles (even in worst anti-semits versions). So your version with lessons in schools isn't possible.

I know that this forum is so easy to troll :) Stick to facts, as to me you could tell that you were Jews from £ódz or Warszawa ... not Gdańsk... In Gdańsk even there are single Jews connections between not going to church and being Jew are bit funny (like everywhere in Poland but Gdańsk is one of the worst examples you could choose).

History of Gdańsk Jews: inyourpocket.com/poland/gdansk/sightseeing/category/260-Jewish_Gdansk.html

:) honestly you could choose better.
Lukasz   
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / I have concerns over the British immigration policy so I wrote to my MP. [126]

how are your mortgage payments btw?

read my posts from september about EUR/USD trend and DJ stock exchange (short posstions) or about oil trend :)))

I always had satisfaction when I riped off gernamans aon DAX now I feel I should change my strategy and start play on London stock exchange:)

how are your mortgage payments btw?

I don't have mortgages like !!!majority of Polish people !!! :) our citizens have one of the lowest debts :) I don't want to comare it with some countries ...
Lukasz   
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / I have concerns over the British immigration policy so I wrote to my MP. [126]

english...

Ok I see we have finished part of our discussion about culture.

as to food

fried snickers bars :))

who realise that most poles havent got a clue when it comes to doing business in the real world.

Last time UK is the best example of successful investment strategies. :)

as to your investors :))) smashing majority of investors in this industry were Poles ... :) so :)

and you Brits will see when your wealth and strenght will disapear how many nations live in the past :) or maybe your citizens :) (I am not talking about Polish people)