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Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Here's No. 23: Dupia Wólka: big rally planned in village square, but it got called off.

"Dupia Wólka" doesn't exist.

How many idiots did they get to give up their Saturday off to trudge through the slush and chill their gonads for foreign banks and nomenklatura

Do you always call strangers "idiots" just because you disagree with them ? I suspect you don't, because there are only so many punches your face can take. But here inside my monitor, you can be brave.
Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

and so? Man has his opinion. Poland is free country

Free since it left the Warsaw Pact (it was never formally a member of Soviet Union).

I'm normally against personal attacks, but everything Mateusz Piskorski says should be viewed in the context of his pro-Russia agenda. He's very devoted to his cause. You only have to look past Poland's eastern border to see how beneficial "alliances" with Russia are. Warsaw Pact era Poland was more known for its absurd happy-sad comedies than prosperity.
Borsukrates   
16 Jan 2016
News / An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski [233]

For your information:
Mateusz Piskorski is the leader of the openly pro-Putin party Zmiana (Change). He and his pals created a fake KOD facebook page which claims to be "the" KOD page and confuses people. Mateusz Piskorski advocates leaving EU, NATO etc. and joining Russia's Eurasian Union. He's a slavic nationalist. He also claimed the Crimea (Krym) referendum which made it join Russian Federation was completely legit.

People like Mateusz Piskorski are tracked by the fb page "Rosyjska V kolumna w Polsce" (Russian Fifth Column in Poland)
facebook.com/Rosyjska-V-kolumna-w-Polsce-218251225011751/
Borsukrates   
14 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Bishop Pieronek said a few funny lines about PiS in "Rzeczpospolita" interview:

W średniowieczu powstrzymywano się od wyrokowania w nocy. Noc uznawano za czas szatana. Judasz wyszedł wydać Chrystusa nocą.

In middle ages nocturnal verdicts were avoided. Night was believed to be Satan's time. Judas walked out at night to betray Christ.

But to be fair, I'd rather have Church hierarchs not make political statements at all.

So if you want a railway to China, you are going to have to build it yourself.

The Chinese also have a saying: "If you want to get rich, build roads."
Borsukrates   
13 Jan 2016
News / WOSP Poland charity - is it value for money? [60]

Notice how Polonius immediately 'suspects' anyone that's involved with activities that the ruling Party has no control over

Either you're with us or with the terrorists.
Borsukrates   
12 Jan 2016
News / WOSP Poland charity - is it value for money? [60]

Polonius, you do realise that the more you make such comments, the more that WOŚP sounds like something fun and worth taking part in?

Haha, I couldn't put that better! You've made my day.

WOŚP is a secular effort. Jurek Owsiak is a liberal person and he's very inclusive and transparent about his finances. And that's precisely why right winged media try to discredit him. He's not even anti-religious, just religion-neutral.

They would love to say* that Catholic Church is the only possible source of morality and ethics. That without religion, it's all rotten and degenerated. Jurek Owsiak and WOŚP prove this line of thought is bull**** - just by existing and being successful.

Church is anything but transparent, so people hesitate to fund Caritas.

* and Jarosław Kaczyński even said that.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Rzepliński, TK head (Constitutional Court) is criticized by right winged media and PiS for being a member of PZPR. Yet, he was elected by Sejm, and even Jarosław Kaczyński voted for him.

How do we explain this ?
a) Kaczyński voted for Rzepliński because of his affinity for PZPR ?
b) Kaczyński changed his mind about Rzepliński ?

I won't try to support a), that's delphiandomine's obsession. It's more likely that Kaczyński simply has communist mentality because he grew up in PRL.

But b), that would suggest Rzepliński stopped being a good person to Kaczyński. A person is good as long as he supports Kaczyński.
Borsukrates   
11 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Newsweek reports that members of European Parliament are now getting e-mails saying democracy in Poland is not endangered, and it was the previous government, the PO-PSL coalition, that was most dangerous to democracy. They're getting those emails in thousands. Identical, prefabricated emails. For example an assistant of Thomas Mann got over 1400 identical emails.

They're in english, spanish, french, german and polish. Even MEPs from PiS are getting them.
swiat.newsweek.pl/maile-do-europoslow-prawica-trolling-europarlament,artykuly,376819,1.html
Borsukrates   
9 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Sorry I can't, I read the paper version. It's in the "letters from readers" section, the leftomost letter, I think the letter is titled "Za pieniądze"

I'd try reading it at an Empik if you live in a larger Polish city.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Confessions of a paid hater / troll in Poland [42]

Angora 1 (1333) - 3rd January 2016 printed an anonymous letter from a young guy who works as a paid sock puppet / troll / hater. He is paid to post hateful political comments. Below is a summary of his insider view (the letter is long).

He works in a copartnership which shapes public opinion in the internet. The company is registered outside Poland and allegedly employs 300 people all around Europe. Most of them, including the employee, are students making extra buck in free time. They prefer to work remotely, from campus or from home.

The employee used to work as a telemarketer and was selling stuff to old people. A friend contacted him and offered a job - writing comments under articles. No specifics at first, then instructions to blacken a certain political party as much as possible. He received a list of 30 "facts" to support him in his writing. As a confirmation, he had to send a list of hyperlinks to his posts.

The goal is as many posts as possible. The more virulent the posts, the higher the bonus. The easiest insults are "thief" and "fraud" - they are so many nobody will try to sue you for libel. But best - highest paid - comments need many replies. So employees started cooperating, upvoting their posts, and writing replies.

On a small party, a manager spilled that he already did this work for industry: wind power plants (positive), car companies, insurance and banks.

But biggest contracts come before every election, typically every 2 years. They pay 0.13 - 3 Z£ for every post, of which the writer typically gets half.

In 2015 the biggest customer of such paid hater companies was PiS - almost from January. Presidential elections, then parliamentary elections. PO paid little - not out of kindness of heart or high morals, but because they underestimated paid haters. The most common and well paid targets of black propaganda were Komorowski (former president), Sikorski (former foreign minister), Kopacz (former prime minister).

Month ago they started targetting Ryszard Petru (leader of .Nowoczesna, an opposition party, currently popular but only 28 seats in parliament). Initially mild stuff like "A gdzie jest Petru ?" (Where's Petru?) in attempt to ridicule his then common media presence, now more foul stuff. The crosshair went from PO to .Nowoczesna.

As far as portals go:
interia.pl has the most anti-PO and anti-.Nowoczesna opinions. They block posts critical of Duda (president) and PiS (the ruling party).
gazeta.pl and onet.pl support PO and .Nowoczesna the most.
wp.pl is somewhere in the middle.

The employee sent the letter to Angora in hopes of making people aware. Most of comments, especially the vile and virulent ones, are paid. And comments by "old people" are almost exclusively paid.

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If you find more confessions in press, tell about them.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

LOL ! According to this logic we should build a huge wall on the western border.

No. This belongs here in this thread, moderators, because it's a direct reply. Don't take it out of context.

Military expenses:

Russia - 61 000 000 000 USD, 3.5% GDP
Germany - 48 022 000 000, 1.3% GDP
Poland - 10 860 000 000 USD, 1.95% GDP

There were also articles that Bundeswehra is deteriorating and incapable of helping Poland in case NATO was attacked.
Borsukrates   
8 Jan 2016
News / Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist? [321]

Speaking of journalists and integrity, Wojciech Sumliński is an investigative journalist and a darling of right wingers. It so happens that his book was recalled from bookstores in the middle of presidential campaign without giving any justification.

The book "Niebezpieczne Związki Bronisława Komorowskiego"(Bronisław Komorowski - previous president) plagiarizes several criminal fiction classics, including Alistair MacLean and Raymond Chandler. Whole paragraphs are ripped. I attached examples.


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Borsukrates   
7 Jan 2016
News / Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations [229]

[Moved from]: Victor Orban visits Jarosław Kaczyński. Poland's Prime Minister Szydło not invited.

On 6th January 2016, Victor Orban had a meeting with Jarosław Kaczyński here in Poland. Prime Minister Szydło wasn't invited. She's supposed to visit Budapest on 13th.

Several years ago I read about countries using the Westminster System, where leader of the leading party automatically becomes the prime minister. I thought that was curious. Now I know why it's important.
Borsukrates   
7 Jan 2016
News / Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist? [321]

Your lies are getting old

This is exactly what Pawłowicz from PiS says. Public media are state media, they are political, and they should support the rulers.

You haven't been here wailing and complaining when for the last eight years

I didn't know about these forums. Hard to understand ?

Fortunately, knowing Poles, they're not going to lie down like the Hungarians did.

So optimistic. PiS line of defense - "everyone is doing that" - isn't helping. Poles stop to care.
Borsukrates   
7 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

Aligning itself with Hungary is another way Poland indirectly gets close to Russia. Russia is no longer a communist dystopia, but a nationalist mafia state. That's a country where Police approaches a chemical company and proposes manufacturing drugs. Refuse, and they make a case against you. On another occassion a family company was senteced for selling drugs - they were baking bread rolls with poppy seeds. I guess they failed to pay protection money ?

Russia recently put Iskander cruise missiles in Kaliningrad Oblast. Maybe this time they won't be used against Poland ? Let's cross our fingers!
Borsukrates   
6 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

And why do you think Russia is bombing Syria ? Perhaps to add fuel to the fire and make Syrians migrate even faster ? Russia has nothing to lose, it knows refugees won't go to Russia.
Borsukrates   
6 Jan 2016
News / Adam Michnik awarded for integrity, professionalism and high standards. Poland's No. 1 fascist? [321]

It's worse, worse than just seizing power. PiS isn't just putting its people in KRRiT (Krajowa Rada Radiofonii i Telewizji). KRRiT is in the Constitution in the same chapter as NIK (Najwyższa Izba Kontroli), and it's not a coincidence. It's because media, like NIK, are supposed to keep government in check. In most of Europe, media are supposed to do that. In countries like Belarus, Russia, Hungary media do the opposite - they're give government control over people. PiS is changing the role of media. Media council had issues with impartiality ? Clearly, the cure is to remove all doubt!

Conspiracy theory ?

Krystyna Pawłowicz, a prominent PiS politician:

"Public media are government media, and they're certainly political. They should serve the sovereign."
Borsukrates   
6 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

Saudi Arabia is much farther and much weaker than Russian Federation. It's a much smaller threat for Poland and the world peace in general. Russia is even carrying out terrorist attacks in Syria, for example it bombed a waste treatment plant, a market full of people, a mosque, hospitals, and 10+ bakeries feeding over 200,000 people. Organizations like Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International and United Nations (ONZ) call these war crimes, and say they were done on purpose. Over 200 civilians were killed. These are all well documented with photos and videos.
Borsukrates   
6 Jan 2016
News / Pope Francis' anti-Polish encyclical? Criticism of coal burning in Poland. [67]

No-one is talking about felling ancient tree stands.

And would you bet on that ?

Puszcza Białowieska is an area protected by the EU Natura 2000 program. European Commission only just dropped its legal case against Poland for breaking the tree cutting directives. The forest is on the UNESCO list of humanity heritage. It's a primal forest. How do you replace a primal forest in a sustainable way ? This can make Puszcza Białowieska lose its UNESCO status, which would be a big diplomatic blow for Poland.

When polish forests were last managed by Jan Szyszko, the new old minister of Environment, the state run company Lasy Państwowe became indepted for the first time in decades. He's also the man who ordered investigation of 'chemitrails'. Do you think he's too competent to do this ?
Borsukrates   
6 Jan 2016
News / Poland bets on Russian oil again [82]

The last chairman of PKN Orlen, Wojciech Krawiec started importing Saudi oil. After firing him, PiS appointed Wojciech Jasiński. Now Wojciech Jasiński signed deals with Rosnieft (Tatnieft, its Swiss affiliate to be exact) to increase oil imports from Russia. The new contract replaces the old one, raises imports from 1.2 mln tons to 2.4 mln tons and will last 3 years.

Thoughts ?

Apparently diversification and not relying on Russian resources is not so important.

PiS likes Russia and Putin much more than it pretends. They use the same language ("Nation" instead of "Society"), share contempt for law and democratic institutions, share values (hatred for different religions, colored people, gay people, Jews, foreigners in general). Like with much else, you see PiS intentions by what they don't say.

I wouldn't bet a south end of a north bound rat on PiS supporting Ukraine. Back in the time of Marshal Piłsudski nationalists wanted to partitition Ukraine, not support its independence.

Hungary can afford to sign deals like this with Russia, because it's not in the geopolitical crash zone. In Poland's case, it's foolish.
Borsukrates   
5 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Eight years of pulling the wool over the public's eye

Focusing on the past is like trying to drive a car while staring at the back mirror. You need to focus on the road ahead.
Borsukrates   
5 Jan 2016
News / Pope Francis' anti-Polish encyclical? Criticism of coal burning in Poland. [67]

According to a poll by Pew Research Center, only 19% of Poles responded that climate change is a serious problem. Only the Chinese care less.

President Andrzej Duda said talking about anti-carbonisation is heresy and anti-Polish. He went on to say Poland has 90% of Europe's coal reserves and that's why de-carbonization is only possible in the sense of reducing CO_2 emissions, not reduction of coal mined.

He didn't mention 5000-7000 Poles die every year from diseases caused by burnt coal. Poland might gain from cheaper energy, but will have to spend extra on healthcare. Also, less developed countries use Poland's stance as an excuse to keep burning coal.

And it's not just coal. Under the new minister of environment, Jan Szyszko, the region of Puszcza Białowieska is to rise wood cutting limits fivefold. Puszcza Białowieska is the last primal forest in Europe, it's on the UNESCO list. Back when Szyszko was minister of environment during previous PiS rule, he also wanted to approve a highway running through Rospuda valley, where many unique and endangered forms of life live. I remember signing a Greenpeace protest petition when I was on a nearby festival.
Borsukrates   
26 Dec 2015
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

A słyszeliście, żeby banda lewaków / liberalnych ludzi poszła i kogoś skopała ? Linki, przykłady.
Borsukrates   
25 Dec 2015
Po polsku / Polska jest dyktaturą? [129]

Totalitaryzm nie zależy od tego, czy mi sie opcja podoba czy nie. Totalitaryzm to rząd, który stara się regulować każdą sferę życia obywatela - publiczną i prywatną. Totalitaryzm stara się utrzymać przy władzy przy użyciu szeroko zakrojonej kampanii propagandowej, często z wykorzystaniem państwowych mediów. Jest jedna partia stosująca represje, kult jednostki, kontrolę ekonomiczną, ograniczenia wolności słowa, masowe śledzenie, i terror.

Z wyjątkiem otwartego terroru, rząd PiS wszystkie te punkty wyhacza, czego dowiodłem wyżej. Do terroru też nie ma daleko, bo na niego przymyka oczy (pobicia różnych kolorowych, palenie kukły Żyda, bicie kochających inaczej).
Borsukrates   
25 Dec 2015
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

The TK is totally unnecessary- It was a commie-era Jaruzelski invention.

And so was Rzecznik Praw Obywatelskich! (Advocate for Citizens' Rights)

Is he not a Polish citizen? There is nothing wrong if he express his point of view.

He is also a very high ranking priest. He's using his religious authority to back up his political views. He's making an impression this is the Church stance.

Certain positions carry responsibility. Every popular figure bears more responsibility for what he says. Church authorities are special in the sense that people who trust them are not fans of rational thinking. Faith promotes acting against logic.