UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]


--- I wonder if the stats haven't been pumped up. Because due to mad political correctness, or Marxian censorship, in the UK, their police, as far as I know, have been expected to provide less crime stats on folks from the Third World and more on others, preferrably those of "Eastern Europe" and so practically only the Poles. (The expression "Eastern Europe" is used in the UK in such a manipulative manner that it's become a synonym for the word "Poland.") All this may mean that the British cops arest more Poles for real or imagined offenses, and wink at other criminals, particularly those from Africa, Asia, and the like. It seems the police in the US and Canada have been carrying out similar manipulative practices for a long time now.


Hello Harry the Jewish Polonophobe (who sez Poland is his country too). Are you asking Penn Boy if he thinks Poles account for 5 % of the UK population for the following reason. If Penn Boy replies: "No, Poles account for much less than 5 % of the UK population, " you will pretend being outraged:"What? They account for much less than 5% of the UK population, and they commit 5 % of all crimes in UK? That's a lot. How bad people those Poles are. "

Harry, and how much crime commit the Jewish people in the UK, including drug dealers from Israel? Are there any publicly available police stats on that, or the stats are the government top secret?

:)

UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]


Right on, Iwona. Guys like that NEVER make such comparisons because they are scared of making them - scared they could be taken to court for offending the "people of colour" and the like. Or they are Polonophobic racists who prefer to protect unconditionally their own and spread the lie the Poles are the worst criminals in their country.

History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]


--- That's it, can't put it better. And also let Jewish Polonophobes be themselves. It's better to talk sincerely than to censor one another. It's because of censorship, of depriving others of freedom of speech, that we actually hate each other. Censoring means killing somebody. It's because of censorship, that is, preventing honest talk betwixt people, that we have wars, hatred, anti-Semitism, Polonophobia, and the like. When we speak with each other honestly, we can overcome them.

By the way, when I speak about censorship, I don't mean here our Moderator, I mean the bigger censorship.

:)


Right on.

:))

History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]

--- Fair enough. But can't I ***** a bit about the fairness? ;)

Moddie, where I wrote you removed it because it was mine? Take it easy, brother.

By the way, I actually start liking polishforums the way it's now.

All the best to you.

History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]


--- Not true. Ever read Babel's "Red Cavalry"? It clearly shows for many Bolsheviks their Jewish identity was extremely important. So you are, as usual lying.


Sorry, hon. I replied to you, but it's been deleted. It's very frustrating, as I am used to freedom of speech. So may I reply again: it's okay to cause the tsores; we need to discuss matters, even if it entails mutual discomfort and screaming at each other. We need to talk honestly, even with brutal honesty, in order to get to the truth. All the best to you. :)

Life / Individualism in Polish culture...Is it almost Nonexistant? [170]

PolkaTag, the historical facts seem to show that Polish individualism, or the sense of independence and personal uniqueness, had a powerful expression in the
First Polish Commonwealth, where the dominant social class was the nobility. When the First Commonwealth was partitioned by Muscovy, Prussia and Austria in the late 1700s, we had our personal freedom greatly limited. For this reason, we had our bloody national uprisings and zealously conspired against our oppressors, especially the Muscovites. Our partitioners tried to arrest brutally our political, economic and cultural develoment. When in 1918 we regained independence and it seemed our freedom was going to last, our national character again started coming to the surface. The country began to flourish economically and culturally. Some 20 years later, WWII began. Our elites were murdered by the Muscovites (who called themselves then "the Soviets"), the Germans and Ukrainians. The subsequent over four decades of the Muscovy occupation are called the communist era. During that period, the totalitarian oppression was especially destructive, because of the harsh censorship and brainwashing by the media. The latter were totally controlled by the communists. Again, we rebelled regularly. In 1980, we had Solidarity. When it was crushed by the communist authorities, we had almost a decade of intellectual rebellion preceding the fall of the communist ideology. In 1989, communism seemingly ended in Poland. I say "seemingly" because, paradoxically, those who benefitted the most from its fall seem to have been the communists. Many of them got very rich. In Poland people think that in 1989 the communists and the leftist part of the political opposition agreed to share political power and economic benefits at the expense of the rest of society. At present we still feel we are not free. So our sense of independence and personal uniqueness remains dormant. It will certainly come eventually to the surface, maybe soon. But first great political changes must happen in the world around us. Eventually, they will.

I don't think our sense of independence has anything wharsoever to do with the Jews. The Jews had no influence on our culture when we started developing as a nation some 1050 years back. Also, they had practically no cultural influence on us in later ages. We were two separate nations living in the same country. First of all, we were Catholics, and they were Talmudists who isolated themselves from our world. Even in the 1930s, the Jewish masses didn't speak Polish, only Yiddish. We have practically never mixed and I doubt if we ever will. "Polish" isn't at all the same as "Jewish." It's actually totally different. You shouldn't believe any one, including some Poles, telling you that the Poles and Jews have always been close to each other, Jews greatly influenced Polish culture, etc. It's all pure fantasy; it hasn't been corroborated by historical facts.


--- It means that in socialism people are exploited the same as in capitalism. It's a joke; actually a subtle one, or, as you in America say, dry one.

:)

Genealogy / If your ancestors were in the "Wehrmacht"... [217]


--- My late friend was an ethnic German from Poznan. His parents were Germans; at home, they talked with each other only in German, but brought my friend up as a Polish native. In fact, he was a great Polish patriot.

During WWII my friend's father was thrown by the German authorities into a German concentration camp for refusing to sign the Volklist.

It seems throughout Polish history many ethnic Germans were loyal Polish citizens. One of them was the great Copernicus (in Polish: Kopernik).

Later, when I have more time, I'll try to write more on the subject.

By the way, some Germans say Polish literature is full of negative German sterotypes (as if their literature were full of positive Polish stereotypes), but perhaps the most beautiful and poignant description of the German character, spirit and bravery is found in Henryk Sienkiewicz's great novel "Ogniem i mieczem" (By Fire and Sword). He describes a small unit of German mercenaries fighting for the Polish Commonwealth during the Cossack rebellion of 1648. I always get goose bumps when I read the magnificent passage showing the German mercenaries' cool demeanor during a battle with much more numerous Cossack hordes. I dare say the passage is one of the very best in the world war literature.

Henryk Sienkiewicz (1842-1916) wasn't too fond of Germany, or rather of Prussia, as he lived at the time of Partitions and witnessed plenty of abuse of the Polish people by the Bismarck regime.

History / Poland and Polish Anti-Semitism, c. 1918-1939 [148]

When I've got enough time I'll start a thread entitled: "ISRAEL AND JEWISH POLONOPHOBIA FROM 1500's -PRES."

I'm sure it'll be great fun to exchange views on this.
:)

UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]


--- Whether you agree or disagree that Poles "aren't picked on", it is a hard fact that Poles are often picked on by the media individuals in Britain.( I'm saying: "the media individuals in Britain", and I'm not saying: "the British." ) And what can your do about that? Not much, I'm afraid, however adamant your denial.


--- Do you mean Obbama was correct in stating there were "Polish death camps"? Prove he was. Do you mean that the Polish interpretation of his words was wrong? Prove it was. What do you mean when you say Poles were making it up with their interpretation? What smacks of paranoia to you?

That's good - there were NO Polish death camps, but this feller says Obbama was right in stating there were Polish death camps.

Who's paranoid here?

How about if somebody said slavery was African crime or Holocaust was Jewish crime? Would you also say he was correct?


-- Are you saying jon357 expects the British to be grateful to the Poles for not committing more crimes? Where does he expect that? Quote him. Maybe you don't understand how Poles in the UK can feel singled out because you have a personal definition of "singling out" that differes from the common one? Actually, aren't YOU singling out the Poles in the post I'm replying to? Do you mean the Poles in Britain have committed worse crimes than other nationalities? Which crimes would that be? Buddy, so you're saying it's right to regard all Poles as bad apples because a few of them have committed crimes? Does it follow it's okay to regard all English, including YOU (or whatever nationality or ethnicity you are) as bad apples because England (or another country of yours) has had, for example, some of the most heinous serial killers in the world? So you're saying all the Poles you've met in Britain have been criminals? Aren't you lying? So you're saying the English media are less venomous than the Polish media? You're hillarious - perhaps inadvertently so. And are you ignorant of the coverage in such media as the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, the Sun, the BBC Panorama? Or you're pretending being unfamiliar with it? And do you speak fluent Polish at all?Prove that in the Nikola case those alleged highly civilized Norwegians were only trying nobly to protect an abused child and those tribal Poles were unjustly protecting abusive parents. To begin with, prove that the parents were abusive. Can you? Where did you get the lowdown on the case from? From the Norwegian government, or Daily Mail? Well, prove that the Poles unconditionally protect their own - give specific examples, facts. So you're saying in the Nikola case the Poles were unconditionally protecting the parents because the parents are Polish? But the Poles were also protecting the alleged victim, and so the alleged adversary of the parents, i.e. the child. And the child is Polish too. If the Poles protected unconditionally only their own they wouldn't protect the adversary of their own, would they? How about if the truth in the Nikola case is as follows. The Norwegian social services people wrongly assumed, maybe on purpose, maybe not, that the Polish parents abused their child. So they snatched her out. The parents hired a private eye who managed to take the kid back, and then the parents and the kid fled back to Poland. The kid was happy to be back with her mom and dad. What would you say to this side of the story? One more thing. Buddy, if the Polish government protected its citizens they would react, for instance, to the numerous racist beatings and killings of Poles in your country, and to your media hate propaganda that instigated them. They haven't done it. Actually, buddy, we, Poles, are exceptionally unprotective towards each other. It can be also observed on this forum. Me and a few other folks are the mere exception confirming the rule. You, British (I assume you are one), are incomparably more protective towards each other. It can also be seen in this forum. Finally, are you English at all, or an ethnick living in England? I've met quite a few English but they sounded different than you.

UK, Ireland / And you wonder why there is Anti-Polish feeling in the UK [187]


--- Prove that "Polish thugs constantly kill British citizens," and that when "UK press" print the stories all (here, on polishforums?) see it as anti-Polish. And what does Barrack Obama saying (lyingly): "Polish death camps" have to do with the whole subject? Are you saying Obamma was right using the said expression? Which Poles allegedly wanted or want blood for Obama's saying "Polish death camps"? Give their names, etc. Can you? Aren't you lying and making things up?

USA, Canada / Living in Poland - prospects for Alabama guy ... need some advice! [146]


I get the hunch you - is it Jason? - can do very well in Poland. You seem a nice - gentle and smart at the same time - and honest feller, and, most importantly, seem not to have an adverse attitude towards us but an open and amicable one. Am I right about it, or go over the top? That's the kind of folks we welcome in Poland; we don't welcome Polonophobes and crybabies who, for instance, whine all the time: "Racism! Antisemitism!" where there's none, and arrogantly demand special rights and priviledges for themselves.

You'll do okay in here the way you are, I think.

And don't worry about your not top-notch command of Polish - you can polish it in no time if you want to, I'm sure of it.

I'd say go for it with no fear.

Real Estate / MNE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY , LOFTS, U SCHEIBLERA, LODZ [36]

Hi Neil. Here's some info (if you don't know it yet) on the Meydan family who are the investors in the Opal Property Developments. The Meydan family AREN'T POLISH.

meydangroup.com.au/about-us.php

I feel very sorry for you, man.

May Heaven protect you and help you get back your money.