UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

mp so at least you know my situation instead of talking bs ;)

Tory: I agree 100% and it should be done everywhere and not only in UK.
But do the British government have the gutts to do so? I doubt it and also they shall be forced by Brussels to continue welfare to UE citizens. Maybe, within UE, they should demand reciprocity, which is obviously not the case.

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Zetigrek! Of course, ...... unfortunately! Even while applying for their residence papers, they get help including first of all free medical insurance ("CMU"). Poor foreigners move to countries with generous benefits, it's easy to understand and it's "normal" - I might do the same if dirt poor.

UK, Ireland / Benefit cuts for Poles in The UK? [143]

Zetigrek: you cannot compare benefits in Poland with those in Western Europe. It's simply like day and night.
NFZ is rather substandard compared to western systems (Polish hospitals are a lot behind: multibed rooms, patients have to bring their toilet paper, towels, silverware and cups (only plates are supplied.....), uncomfortable beds, "food" is unacceptable (often there are strong critics in Polish newspapers about this).

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Zetigrek: simply to understand: as soon as one foot in France, people can qualify for welfare. That's all and that's why so many immigrants from everywhere.

Please see mp!

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Tory: if your government say that, they lie one more time.
I am French and although not living there (stuck in Poland for some more time), I know what's going on over there, read all main newspapers, watch news and listen to the 2 main French radio stations every days and I have never read/seen/heard such news. Believe me, should it be true, it would be like a bomb.

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Tory: I share your opinion 100%. Those countries were not ready but I believe they were accepted only so western companies would go there very easily because of cheap labor and thus destroying jobs in the west.

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Zetigrek! Unfortunately, like I said, anybody just arriving can and do get welfare (especially when kids). I've seen cases of for instance Bulgarian families just arriving from Bulgaria getting hotel rooms paid + money for the kids, for food, free transportation and free medical care ("CMU" couverture médicale universelle, not "sécurité sociale"). Of course, most people are fed up of this but no government shall ever do anything especially since they have their hands tied up by Brussels

Sarkozy got the - brilliant - idea to pay Roms to spend vacation in France. A family of let's say 3 kids (but of course most of them have huge "tribes") were getting each time 900 euros (600 for the parents and 300 for the kids) + plane ticket paid and doing this several times a year, they had a luxurious life in Rumania ;). Fortunately, the current government has just stopped that nonsense; Roms are expelled and leave with 0,00 euro.

To summarize it is not true what Tory says about welfare cuts in France to foreigners. 90% of the French would be happy but it shall never happen

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

ToryRight: France opened its labor market to central Europe very recently but already around 300,000 Poles in the construction industry (heard last night on French tv) (the "plombier polonais" ;)) + probably as many (when registered) in cleaning (Polish women have been cleaning French homes since the 1990's), agriculture, hotels and restaurants. Although most French hate this situation, most people do not hate Poles and Poland since there are a couple million French of Polish origin (a lot of Poles came before WWII to work in the mines in North and East) and they are perfectly integrated (a lot of them are very successful).

I believe that in those times of economic hardship, labor market should be protected instead of having the UE bs... Foreigners should be accepted only if no local can do the job....

And sorry, the British government was wrong to let so many Poles in. It was a way to bring British salaries and working conditions down but who is guilty? The government are, the Poles are not.

UK, Ireland / Many Polish in England don't study or work. How is it possible? [39]

Hi! Where the hell have you read this? It is - unfortunately - not true. Foreigners get exactly the same benefits (often without having worked a single day in France and even upon their arrival) as the French and unfortunately very often more easily; thus a strong hostile reaction from a lot of citizens. The current government is just continuing what all other governments before them did although they stopped a few weeks ago to give 300 euros per adult and 100 euros per child "accepting" to return (plane ticket paid ;)) to Rumania where the minimum salary is 158 euros(month), which was a - stupid - measure taken by Sarkozy. Roms used to take the money, to spend a few weeks in Rumania and then to return to France and so on and so on.... "lol"

(ps: I'm French so I know the situation in that country, I don't need to rely on false info transmitted by foreign media)

(ps: although am a "liberal", I believe that welfare should be given only to nationals and if to foreigners as well, only after several years of residence in the new country - this would reduce immigration ;)

Work / Average monthly salaries in Poland's voivodships [12]

Local: I agree with you 100% but as I said, an average does not reflect reality (a median is more accurate), especially in a country like Poland where the gap between the rich and the poor is that tremendous.

Of course there are "big fish" - often true sharks - but let's not forget about all the "small fish" more numerous and who struggle in order to survive.

PS: I happen to know Katowice very well since I own a house there and I can assure you that there is a lot of poverty there, much more so than in Warsaw (where I live) for instance.

PPS: If we consider the % of taxpayers per tax brackets, we realize that very few people are rich in Poland (or they cheat and don't report what they make ;)) and that's the huge majority are poor. Another factor to prove what I'm saying: emigration of Poles, in general to take the jobs that locals don't want to take (you see the reality in GB and I can tell you that in France for about 20 years, almost all cleaning ladies and almost all construction workers are Polish. Needless to say, if people go abroad, leave their families, to take lowest skilled jobs abroad, it's because of poverty in their home countries. Poles don't go to the West to clean houses for "fun" or for cultural exchange ;)

Work / Average monthly salaries in Poland's voivodships [12]

Hi! I'm surprised that you don't understand that such notion of "average" salary does not reflect reality, most especially in a country like Poland with huge differences. A few people in Poland make tons of money but most of them don't (I read many times that more than 62% of Poles make less than 2,500 (brutto). I personally mingle with top income people but I also come across alot of others barely making 2,000/month. Besides, if the salary was around 1,000 euros in Poland, we would not have so many Poles working at minimum wages in the west. I know it's like this in all countries but for God's sake, people need to think and look around instead of taking for granted what the government says or what they find on the net ;)

Life / Migration To Poland - cost of living, work, safe for a girl? [20]

Decatlon is part of the Auchan group, for your info.

Life / Migration To Poland - cost of living, work, safe for a girl? [20]

"All big companies are German in Poland", for instance ...... Carrefour, Auchan, Leclerc, Orange, Canal+, Decathlon, Bricorama, Bricoman, Castorama, Leroy-Merlin, L'Oréal, Saint-Gobain, Lafarge Cements, Michelin, Lactalis, Pierre Fabre, Franck Provost, Yves Rocher, Société Générale, BNP, Crédit Agricole, Allior, Jean-Louis David, Camaieu, Promod, Jacqueline Riu, just to name a few out of the more than 700 French companies. There are also a lot of companies from numerous western countries (Zara, H&M, Citibank,.....).

So why writing nonsense in a forum?

Language / Poles - don't fall into the French/Spanish trap re pronunciation/accent! [81]

FYI, the Basque region is in Spain and in France not in Portugal

News / THE PARTYS OVER... NO MORE EUROS FOR POLAND'S ROADS [71]

worry for Poland and also for ......... GB first! ;).

News / THE PARTYS OVER... NO MORE EUROS FOR POLAND'S ROADS [71]

Hi! I believe that what has happened to "pigs" countries shall happen in a very near future to Poland. Once EU's funds are stopped, Poland shall be another Spain or Greece. Like in Spain, millions of zl/euros are wasted (empty stadiums and airports, just to give 2 small examples). Since I know Spain (am half Spanish), I can draw a parallel with these 2 countries. Poland so-called "prosperity" (but millions of Poles working abroad, high unemployment, low wages for most, according to Rzeczpospolita, 1/3 of Polish children live in poverty, itd itd....) is only very temporary and purely articifial. The near future is far from bright....

Australia / Poles invaded the wrong Anglo-Saxon country [29]

Thank you Peakus for your input.
You know, it's unfortunately typical of this forum. There are always some people giving wrong facts about other countries, to which they have never been and of which they do not know the language but they "know" the situation in those places ;). They just copy-paste any garbage from the net and that's it, they pretend they know the place. It is pathetic. People ought to learn languages and travel more so they'd see the world the way it really is and get to know people.

This forum should stick to Poland and to Polish things.
:)

UK, Ireland / How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here? [474]

Hi!
Please don't talk about what you don't know!

Re France, 1. ethnic and religious statistics are forbidden so how the hell can you say "over 10% are muslim"? and 2. most people of Arabic descent living in France are either not practising or even atheists (the main "religion" in France is "non" religion, all faiths combined) so coming up with over 10% of muslims in France is pure non sense and false.

News / Krakow, Poland considers co-hosting the Winter Olympic in 2022 with Slovakia (UPDATE) [30]

Hi! Please let's be serious: the other candidates are Munich, Barcelona, Nice, Oslo and Saint-Moritz (+ Brazow and Lviv) so ....;) The olympic authorities need more than ... students' dorms in Krakow ;). In the western cities applying, infrastructures are top and far much better and usually already existing. The mountains are higher (Alps and Pyrenees in the case of Barcelona) and quality snow is garanteed.

I know one can dream but let's be realistic: Krakow has very little chance.

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Hi Meathead!
I agree with you. My "problem" is that I just hate all those lower class cheap ESL "teachers" always between 2 cheap binge drinking and their Polish/Americans (since these 3 groups make at least 99% of PF) counterparts discussing what they have read in their cheap tabloids, Daily Mirror, the Sun or Fakt, Super Express or seen on Fox "News" et al. , which they take for granted instead of getting informed from official sources. It is unbelievable all the sh... to be read from them.

I have to say they are not the kind of Brits, Americans and Poles I mingle with (on a daily basis) ;) -
Have a good day! (mine will:))

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Witam!
Ironside: Get the official numbers right not those from British tabloids ;)
As to farmers (by the way check what the British family get and also the Grimaldy family ;)), since France (no.2 contributor) pays much more (the British "I want my money back" costs France several billions euros per year) than it receives, its farmers are not to feel guilty. Check official figures and you'll see that 1. France pays more than it receives, 2. British rebate costs a lot to others (mainly France and Italy) and 3. Poland receives MOST money in UE (no. 1 recipient) whereas pays close to nothing. If you refuse official figures, no way to make you understand.

As to GB, they just want money from UE (eg fo their rundown northern areas) but are anti-Europeans and they should be out. The UE should be limited to the 6 original members. GB started the **** in the community and now with the Euro and the enlargement to all those post communists "bras cassés", it's the end of it and it's high time that the whole thing blows up (just a matter of short time) and everybody shall be on their own, without depending upon others' subsidies.

No need to insult, I refer to official data and not to garbage found in anti portals.
Bonne journée quand même mais avec la haine que tu sembles avoir, ça ne semble pas très facile :)

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

I happen to live in Poland and work with Poles and I can assure you that 90% think this way.

Life / How a Pole can contribute to the homeland? [27]

The difference for instance between France and Poland is that France loses several billions euros per year whereas Poland wins all the way.

France is the second payer (after Germany, and in front of Italy and UK) whereas Poland is the no.1 reciepient and contributes 0 or close to 0 - cf. UE data.

As to agricultural funds, UK gets a lot and not only the British farmers (normal) but also the royal family (mainly Prince Charles) (not normal).

Like François Hollande said 2 days ago: "there are countries that pay and there are countries that just come to pick up their checks"

Fortunately, this bs of the UE is about to collapse and so much the better! ;)

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Maybe you do but trust me most Poles don't. They seem to believe it comes from .... God! They don't realize that "Brussels" money = Western taxpayers.

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Simply as that: Poland (government + citizens) have to understand that they cannot be sponsored by the West for ever and why should they???? If they want for instance extra metro lines and other infrustructures, they have to finance such expenses themselves (through tax and others).

Not only Western countries spoonfeeding Poland (and some others but Poland is the no.1 recipient) are having a deep crisis (and their populations are fed up to tighten their belts whereas their tax money leaves for Poland et al.) but also Poland does not feel European except from when it is time to get a cheque.

What strikes me is that Poles don't realize that money they receive comes from tax paid by foreigners.

If you don't mind it's simply because you are not among those who pay ;)

The "daj mi" needs to stop.... Aren't Poles ashamed to be seen as "beggars"? Why can't they have some pride? It beats me....

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Sure Poland cannot survive alone but what bugs me is that most of them are so anti UE. May Poland stop spitting into the soup and realize that they need to roll their sleeves up and work and stop expecting others they despise (Poland should rather become a US state) to spoonfeed them. Poland pretends to be a "major" power but they cannot eat with others.

Stop the "daj mi" attitude! Western Europeans are fed up to pay and be insulted.

News / €80 billion for Poland new EU budget [166]

Hi!

Sorry but Poland and the Poles have to understand that there is a serious crisis and that they cannot expect to be spoonfed for ever. It is high time that they realize that they need to work and not count on the others all the more as Poland and the Poles do not feel Europeans; they only see the UE as a milkcow. Furthermore, why should other countries feed Poland?

News / More Poles speak English than French or Spanish! [34]

Jon!
Trust me, I know several big Western firms getting money from the UE ;)

As to "second rank" nations? France? It's the 2nd richest country in Europe (second to Germany) and the 5th richest country in the world (after the US, China, Japan and Germany) so much ahead of Britain and of Poland for instance ;). As to Spain, it got ruined (but nevertheless still richer than Poland) because of the subprimes and also because since 2004 UE funds go to Eastern Europe (mostly to Poland) instead of to Southern Europe. Spain has nevertheless valuable assets and shall recover. Viva Espana! :)

News / More Poles speak English than French or Spanish! [34]

Hi!
There may be like you say 300 language schools in Warsaw but most of them are no more than BS and operated from the owner's kitchen. As to the financing of languages (not only English) in Polish state institutions and in huge international corporations, it is done by U.E. funds so it costs close to 0 zl to Polish state (I'm in the field so I do know about such UE programs)

In Poland a lot of people butcher English (and other languages) and only a tiny minority can properly speak any foreign language.
Such report is another crap.
Why in the world are PF members so obsessed by the French and Spaniards! It's a pathology.
Have a nice Sunday!

History / Polish relation about Russians, Ukrainians? [281]

TheOther: don't talk any nonsense! The LePen family have no chance to be elected in France ;) and contrary to what you claim, I can say over 90% of French citizens are "of catholic origin" (most of them now atheists).

As to the LePen, they are against ALL immigrants, including those from ....Poland, against UE and against capitalism. Any way, since they'll never be elected, they may scream whatever they want.

Excuse-me for correcting your nonsense but I'm French and I believe I know France better than you do!

Furthermore France is a LAY country (has been since 1905 - the first country on earth to become so) so there is a complete separation of State and religious matters - religion (although most French of ALL creeds are either atheists or non practising, including Muslims, who most often do NOT practise) and therefore NO religion in schools (unless they are parochial ;)) and NO religious reference in public life (= illegal) so please don't make up stories.

;)

Unbelievable the crap to be read in this forum! May people stick to what they know.