Language / Speaking with wrong Polish case endings? [94]


ooohhh errrr! I hear this all over the place here. It's a very common phonetic blip spoken by most foreigners. At least you can see the 'fanny' side of it?!

Language / Speaking with wrong Polish case endings? [94]


I'm quite shocked at this Lyzko. I thought all natives would be 100% accurate. Maybe it highlights the difficulty of the language.

Having said that, native English people make errors in speech, and writing especially the (mis)use of the apostrophe for possession. I don't think it's used in Polish; I think Poles use the Genitive case instead. Also used for omission of a letter: 'it's' for 'it is'.

One common example: People insert apostrophes anywhere. Instead of a market stall displaying the sign

'Pears 39 pence a lb', they put

Pear's 39 pence a lb.

Anywhere they see a plural, in goes an apostrophe. I've even seen an advert 'House's for sale'. This is just one of my pet hates.

Po polsku / Gry z podziałem na role dla uczących się Polskiego. [15]

Dzien dobry,
Poproszę herbatę z mlekiem. Ile kostuje?

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]


No offense Catsoldier! I welcome corrections! That roll playing would be excellent! Dobry pomosył. For myself it would be fantastic to prepare for the forthcoming exam.


... I used to work with a Pole 10 years ago. He told me a few words, and I was amazed at how many consonant clusters appear. This sort of ignited the fire in my belly. I have since met and worked with several Poles who have more than encouraged me to learn more. I wanted to learn one of the hardest langauages there is. It's a personal challenge, and may impress future employers.

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]


Books for me work wonders, and feel confident to learn with this method. I'm a stickler for accuracy and that's why I want to use the correct endings for nouns, adjectives, numbers etc in their right context. Of course, others may learn in dialogue, but for myself, it just doesn't work that great.

Books rock!

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]

Ahh cheers Zman

It was a post to boost Pam. What I need to do is learn reams of vocabulary for my GCSE Polish next year. Czy jestes Polakiem czy Anglikiem?

Hope you have a good weekend!

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]


I 'discovered' them about eight months ago, and since then have been analysing how the 7 cases 'work'. I've made some very good progress, but there's so much to learn. Pam - the book is 'Hurra!! Po Polsku'. [Mods: is this classed as spamming - if so remove]. The book starts off with the Instrumental, then moves onto Nominative, then Accusative etc. It's a fantastic book.

I am still learning noun endings depending on their case and there is a lot! Just one off the top of my head:

Jade do autobusem (I am travelling by bus). Instrumental case as 'travelling by ...' - Indicates the tool or means.
Jestem w autobusie (I am on the bus). Locative case - Never used alone, only in connection with certain prepositions, like "w" (in) and "o" (about).

This gives a detailed explanation on the Polish cases.

en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Polish/Noun_cases

It is worth going through these Pam. You'll get a lot of help here if you're stuck!

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]

catsoldier

Hey catsoldier, thanks for that useful website - it looks great!

Thanks strzyga

20% - not great!

I will try and work out where I went wrong!

Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]

thanks Lyzko

Brilliant!

Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]

80% - not bad!

Is no. 10 the accusative?

Not sure on no. 7 - wysokim (instrumental)?

Thanks Catsoldier.

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]


... just kidding...

Could anyone check these answers. please?
Must provide the correct verb (infinitive?) - I'm not at all confident. My answers are in bold.

1. (ty) bierzasz kredyt na dom? (brac).
2. On zawsze bardzo krótko śpie - tylko 5 - 6 godzin. (spać).
3. W niedzielę zawsze (ja) śpi do dziesiątej. (spać).
4. W weekend (my) jedziemy na wyciezkę do Zakopanego. (jechać).
5. (Wy) Idiecie dzisiaj z nami do kina? (iść).
6. Do której godziny (ty) spicie w sobotę. (spac).
7. Pan Wojek jedzie jutro na konferencę do Zzczencina. (isc).
8. Jutro (ja) idę do muzeum. (isc).
9. Andrzej mili się zawsze bardzo dlugo. (myć się).
10. Czy (wy) bierzecie kredyt na samochód? (brac).

We have to provide the correct verbs again - either spotykać się z czy spotykać.

1. Często (ja) spotkam się z tego mężczyznę w parku.
2. Nigdy cię nie (ja) spotykać na uniwersytecie! Nie studiujesz już.
3. W piąki zawsze (my) spotkamy się z snajomymi w kluie.
4. Wiem, że Agata pracuje w centrum, bo często ją tam spotkytać.
5. Czy Andrzej często spotka się Anią.

I would be grateful for any help. Many thanks!

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]


Thanks again to all additional responders. (((Cyber hug)))

You're all lovely.

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]

Dear all responees. all above.

The penny has dropped, and got the jist. I just needed a pointer, which you've all provided. Do you mind me asking all these questions by the way? I feel a little embarrassed and troublesome by asking. :-(

Language / GCSE Polish experience. [51]


I've had a look Kieron at that website and it does look difficult. I note that the recommended books include Po Polsku 3 !!! It looks as if you have to be fairly good at Polish. How is your Polish?

I don't know if GCSE's can be taken in Poland - GCSE's are English based examinations. I don't really know what else to suggest. I would have a bash at the one you've mentioned.

Hope this helps?

Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]

Thanks ReservoirDog. That explains it nicely. No doubt I'll have more questions...

Merged: Verb infinitives

Could anyone give me a few pointers relating to verb infinitives...

Which is the correct sentences: I've tried to do this, but stuck on which conjugation to use.

'Czy lubicie słychac muzyki klasycznej' czy
'Czy lubicie słychacie .....'

'Czy lubisz grasz w tenisa czy'
'Czy lubisz grać w tenisa'.

'On bardzo lubi podrozowac w park' czy
'On bardzo lubi podróżuje w park'.

'Ona bardzo lubi chodzic zakupy' czy.
Ona bardzo lubi chodzi zakupy'.

In essence, when do I use the verb in full - as in the first example (słychac), or słychacie, or (chodzic) or (chodzi) last example.

In two further example (given by the book): Mój znajomy lubi czytać gazety, ..... why isn't it 'Mój znajomy lubi czyta gazety ...'

One lubią słuchac myzyki rockowej.... why isn't this ... One lubią słuchają myzyki rockowej....

In the above one, why isn't the verb to read (czytac) declined?

Anyone got any clues... :-( [questions question questions]

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


Hi Catsoldier. I'm using mainly:

Hurra!!! Po Polsku 1 - Małgorzata Małolepsza i Aneta Szymkiewicz.
Basic Polish - Dana Bielec.
Polish Verbs - Oscar Swan

(and this forum!).

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]

bardzo dobrze Pani ReservoirDog / Pan ReservoirDog / Panswto ReservoirDog. Ale twoim płeć - to nie ma znaczenia...

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]

great help there.

;=)

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


I have been sarying 'probuję' for over a year now!!! Does it sound a silly mistake? Thanks for your correction. I'll remember.

[thanks for the cookie - loved it!]


nie znam! (or umiem/potrofię)

*has this gone full circle?* :-)

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


(ja) zawsze probuję !

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


him.... Jestem Anglikiem...

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


It's UK slang for 'disturbance, commotion, disorder, agitation' or 'fuss'. 'What a fuss' or 'What a kerfuffle'.

I very rarely use this word.

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]


... what a kerfuffle ... :-/

I used 'umiec', as the book I'm working from gives examples of W - U - Z; I had never heard of 'potrafię' but have now [thanks ReservoirDog].

Needless to say it's quite unlikely that I'll be using these [fluently] in conversations just yet ... still getting to grips with vocab etc, but again, all of you have given a huge amount of help. I could use both forms depending on the context I suppose, and compromise.

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]

fantastyczna strzyga!

You've been so so so helpful. Thanks you two. :-)

Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]

Cheers Peter

Teraz wiem!?! :-/

Language / What's the time? Numbers in Polish. [14]

Blimey ReservoirDog

Cheers for that. Don't knowhow you know all of this stuff.......

Hi ReservoirDog et al.,

For the 24 hour clock (I may have to know this), are the number as follows:

13:00 jedenasta
14:00 dziewiata
15:00 trzynasta
16:00 czternasta
17:00 pietnasta
18:00 szesnasta
19:00 siedemnasta
20:00 osiemnasta
21:00 dwudziesta pierwsza
22:00 dwudziasta druga
23:00 dwudziasta trzecia
24:00 dwudziesta czwarta .... are these correct? I would rather use the 12-hour clock!

Language / What's the time? Numbers in Polish. [14]

gumishu ReservoirDog

great stuff both of you! It's bad enough learning the 'normal' numbers, never mind the other forms to do with time. :-/ onwards and upwards.....

thanks gumishu... you're a star!