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From: Beograd, Serbia
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Natasa   
15 Apr 2012
Off-Topic / I am Polish and I am offended. [52]

You were subject of different socialization (or aculturalization)in Canada compared to typical Pole, being an immigrant in your heimat again. Plus you are germanophile and Polish. That preference usually blurs or distorts one's perception. And it is kind of contradictio in adjecto when person is a Pole.
Natasa   
23 Mar 2012
Love / Woman 23, man 47 years old. What do you think about ? [162]

If I were 47 year old man I would be very curious about motives of my 23 year old girlfriend and my own. Both options, Pygmalion or father figure are not good foundation for solid structures.
Natasa   
15 Mar 2012
Language / "żółwik" - the same word?? [55]

This I think is in the domain of sociolinguistic. I compared German, English and Serbo croatian (Russian a bit too) and differences are surprising. We seem to have more develop some, for us more relevant concepts , hence many synonyms or words that slightly differ in meaning. Same examples of much more elaborated concepts in English in German compared to my mother tongue.

People in cold ares have words denoting different types of snow, other types of sand, some tribal society (I forgot the name) knew only for three words for colors , black, red and white I think, and researchers gave them various colors, they categorized them in existing three categories, all solved the problem. Their lack of more subtle discrimination was explained with irrelevance of the differentiation for their survival in some jungle.

Anyway, interesting way to discover the worlds behind the languages.
Natasa   
24 Feb 2012
Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

To be honest when I speak face to face with western people I feel somewhat inferior even in my own country. But I guess it has much to do with the fact that my interlocutor speaks better english.

Those sentences revealed that this couldn't be Crow in disguise using username Slavia :)

Why feeling of inferiority Slavia. why.

Aren't we all just ordinary people? (If this sentence hurts, send me a PM I might help you.)
Natasa   
2 Feb 2012
Off-Topic / Book: Gogol's Taras Bulba [37]

Bulgakov

'Second grade freshness' (The Master and Margarita) is for me to this day the funniest phrase I encountered in literature. Always makes me smile.
Smile :)
Natasa   
25 Jan 2012
Love / What are Polish Women like? Just started to date one. [256]

This was my only smile today :)

You are my soul brother. I would describe the scene in similar way. Only this 'massage of breasts' is a bit soft prnish, slapping the udder creating the chain action- reaction on the neglected one.
Natasa   
16 Jan 2012
Love / Unmarried couples in Poland = pathology [310]

Marriage is freedom?

Yes, in the same way as War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength.

I doubt most men can feel this liberation.

Some women as well. I see that 'yes, I do' people say in front of the registrar like a kick on the chair person stands on while rope around her neck is keeping her/him connected to the ceiling. A kick, one yes, and the chair is gone.

Or earlier I saw a milder fantasy of opened coffin, person says I do, goes inside and somebody closes the coffin. The kids would be nails in the coffin in that version.

;)

But those are just my fantasies. Nothing similar happens in reality ;)

p.s.
but as we are taught by the society we are programmed, if we are healthy, to be able to love and work. Why was it interpreted in those extreme ways I have no clue. Neither work, nor those insane marriages with clause' till the graveyard tear us apart'.
Natasa   
10 Jan 2012
Life / Who's Leaving Poland? [138]

scientists long ago knew little sun in winter causes depressions (it's physiological)

The sun affects production of some neurotransmitters, serotonin....melatonin.
Seasonal affective disorder. That is why Spain, Italy and Greece have lowest incidence of depression in europe.

O sole mio. I miss it. One of the winters will kill me eventually.
Natasa   
4 Jan 2012
Love / My Polish wife got married to me but she's still not in love? [34]

if there is not love from first sight.

Dear men, that is a walking calculation then, run away, I am of that kind, I know.

Nothing worse than having a rational woman by your side.

Men are different story, they are always the same, rational above all ;)

largactyl

Who was anxious or had peculiar ideas? (I love those failures of adaptation to wrong things!) ;)

Sorry, always drawn to, for this place, exotic words :)

she says it wil take time to feel the love. i dunno what she means

She is probably lead by the logic, if I had that canary bird and started to feel love after sharing space with it for a while, why shouldn't that be possible with the man?

It can work...if that belief is strong and repeated daily in front of the mirror. It didn't work for me.
Natasa   
1 Jan 2012
Love / What are Polish Women like? Just started to date one. [256]

He brings sex into everything, so I suspect that sexual jealousy is part of his problem :D

The one who says he doesn't is a liar ;)

Psychoanalytical assumption is that other types of curiosity, particularly that one that involves acquiring the knowledge (like in latent phase of PS development, when kids suddenly become totally asexual apparently, best years for school, after oedipal phase) are derived from SEXUAL curiosity. That is the basis.

And Freudian thesis about final source of curiosity being sexual by nature is just the tip of the iceberg that includes later theories of their relationship, they seem to be inseparably intertwined, sexuality and curiosity.

Sexual jealousy, what is that suppose to be? When someone's wife is banging with the neighbor at the same time that person (hubby) experiences heat pump cycle's peak ? :)))))

I think you meant envy, not jealousy (jealousy is a stage for 3 actors, threat of loss of someone important, etc.) :)
Natasa   
31 Dec 2011
News / Amnesty to Illegal immigrants in Poland [102]

It would also test out the tolerance concept.

How I see this with the fear that lack of relevant historical facts made me err- my conclusions might be totally wrong, please feel free to correct me.

British are known for their liberal attitudes when it comes to foreigners, they mixed, they were ruled by foreigners, they are good hosts, and that is for me personally an interesting characteristic.

But expecting all others to have the same openness when it comes to more or less distant cultures is something too ambitious. And at the end not logical.

Some cultures have reasons to be more xenophobic, those whose survival depended on cohesiveness , which is the case of large parts of continental Europe. British isles have specific, isolated geographical position where intruders from the continent were not a threat to survival of the English nation, you rather assimilated the invaders which is possible if there is no critical mass impossible for assimilation. And ocean was a natural protection against that threat.

On the other hand nations on the continent were constantly under same threat or even threat of extinction without seas surrounding them.

Also, probably there is the element of guilt from colonial past, so you tend to be over tolerant now, being guests all around the globe previoulsy (I understand why and how it evolved I think, navy was a mean of survival, conquering as well), and later inviting more guests you had to find way to live with them, norm helped and served there as well, to achieve the goal, to adapt.

Tolerance is indeed a nice result of that process.

But that is something specific for britain and those who share their cultural heritage and where tolerance was also one of the means to rise like a nation , but .....

continental European countries (not only european) faced due to their position different problems and logic of survival had to evolve in some other direction.

Why imposing norms that served you to others whose destinies demanded different adaptations and norms for their survival?

Xenophobia had and still has its purpose. it has evolutionary roots. protect your gene pool. that is why we all prefer our kins to our wife's kins.

and europe was all about bloody evolutionary games for millennium and more. And this forum proves it is a vital principle still.

Like your openness served function of survival (Britons+ angles, saxons and then that new group assimilated danes,normans= English nation), elevated tolerance would have proven to be a tool of self destruction in the continental case of like i.e. Khazars.

Try to teach Germans the tolerance lesson , they will pretend that they embraced it, yet... they wouldn't have survived if they did and they know it.

French? Italians? Poles? Hungarians? Anyone in the classroom? :)

It is I'm afraid learned by heart and as a recital for important audience.
Natasa   
29 Dec 2011
Love / Polish Girls negative or positive personality trait? [267]

I think society is responsible for that. Male part that insists on high standards.

In absence of demand, the supply becomes less....perfect? ;)

If you were a Slavic woman and labeled as a member of sluttiest group western from Ural, wouldn't you also think it is because your kind is prettiest of all?
Natasa   
29 Dec 2011
Love / Polish Girls negative or positive personality trait? [267]

Vanity is the no1 negative one.

behind vanity lurks some vulnerable narcissism, i highly doubt they all suffer from either malignant or labile narcissism problems.

What does it mean for you? What kind of vanity, vain about what?

perhaps the social pressures and demands by culture you interpret as vanity. It is possible that standards set by society are higher when it comes to some traits? And you misinterpret vulnerability to those demands as personal characteristics?

For example, here a person can be quite certain that is she gains 10 pounds she will be warned by everyone to take care, simply there is lack of tolerance to differences when it comes to obesity .

But when it comes to attitudes about many issues, opinions about bigger and smaller issues, in general weltanschauungs it is as far as I can see more permissive. So, structure is loose , oxymoron, no structure :)
Natasa   
29 Dec 2011
Love / Polish Girls negative or positive personality trait? [267]

So you are saying that the ones you know are materialistic?

Seanus I know one person who can very hardly fit into description idealistic. It is one guy :)

As far as I know from theory ;) and practice- ideas and ideals demand solid material basis.

big kachuna aka marriage

What is big about that?
Natasa   
20 Dec 2011
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

southern: Are the Serbs such dumb fuks?
They thought that in modern Europe they would be able to get away with committing genocide; there's the answer to your question.

That is what I was talking about in my previous post. He is defending what he heard about on TV, although bright enough, using pseudo explanations like the one in the quote.

The price to admit he is wrong is high one, credibility of the sources he trusts is disappearing.

You can post 10 000 clips. Nobody wants to admit that he was treated as an idiot.

Edward Bernays, the men who manipulated via media US and than rest of the world, whose CV is brilliant, the inventor of the syntagm public relations, to chang the word propaganda, that was not popular because of Germans, to denote the same thing, regarded and treated people as stupid masses. Very successfully. For those more interested in that theme BBC's movie the century of the self is my recommendation.

I fear that we all are idiots. More or less.

Barney

I am tired Barney of reading and watching that all, that picture with the man behind bars as fas as I know was taken from the other side of the fence. it was in our media constantly. It is not fake, but it is saying something else, not what was happening on terrain at the moment.

There were prisoners, but for details, ask the more relevant source, Southern.

But few days ago I watched something Hague gave to process to Bosniaks, one clear Muslim war crime that will although clear and resulted in death of 100 to 200 19 year old soldiers retreiveing from Tuzla barracks where they HAD to be serving the regular military in 1992. were killed.

Nobody will ever be guilty for thier deaths, and many more.
Natasa   
20 Dec 2011
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Southern, there has been many research done on subject of attitude change.

there are in essence two possible ways:

1. To address the informationally deprived attitude via arguments, confront them, strength, number and frequency of the arguments are relevant

2. To use peripheral ways, heuristics, like credibility of the source, length of the argument, role of the expert

The problem of those who study how to change people's attitudes is that usually in experiments they don't get any change.
It is very difficult.

Media experts know that and first impression often is the last impression.

There is a rule that says there is a principle of sufficiency, meaning that people have different thresholds when it comes to how much information they need to form the attitude.

People will use the central way, under 1. when they have sufficient cognitive abilities and interest(time).

Integrative complexity as cognitive style is plus. Those who like cognitive simplicity are easily detectable and any effort is a waste of time, black and white worlds, and with those who have need to fully grasp the complexity, they don't usually need anyone's assistance, they look for information themselves.

Or as one of the researchers on the subject after long time working on it concluded in his article:

' When did you last time witness a discussion that ended with the some change? '

Additionally, people will try anything to protect existing attitudes even if reality doesn't reflect them. Nobody likes to be wrong, or to feel fooled.